question since i run linux as my primary os i have read though the hacks n stuff to convert the sd card file system over to extended 4 parttion which is a native linux partition to improve preformance. THe question is first is it really worth it? Second since i run linux as a primary os could i just format it in linux instead of actually running the hack on it to convert it over? Since id still be able to read anything on the sd card as it is linux native.
RaverX3X said:
question since i run linux as my primary os i have read though the hacks n stuff to convert the sd card file system over to extended 4 parttion which is a native linux partition to improve preformance. THe question is first is it really worth it? Second since i run linux as a primary os could i just format it in linux instead of actually running the hack on it to convert it over? Since id still be able to read anything on the sd card as it is linux native.
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first off, yes it is worth it because once you do the ext4 partition the space available of internal memory will greatly increase
and yes you can do it right off your linux system, no offense but if you would have read the CREATING EXT4 PARTITION thread all your questions would have been answered
im not sure how to do it with linux but its on the thread ^
i didnt see anything bout doing it native in linux. Hince why i asked all i seen was do this hack do that hack is why i posted. if it was there i got crap net so lol inbetween dc's i may have missed it... and within linux i could just copy all the data off the card and reformat it it formats just like anything would in windows just its linux not shutters windows
RaverX3X said:
i didnt see anything bout doing it native in linux. Hince why i asked all i seen was do this hack do that hack is why i posted. if it was there i got crap net so lol inbetween dc's i may have missed it... and within linux i could just copy all the data off the card and reformat it it formats just like anything would in windows just its linux not shutters windows
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lol i understand,
within the first 5 posts in that thread a guy who did it with linux instead of windows explains how to do it, so just like through the first 5 posts and you should find it
RaverX3X said:
i didnt see anything bout doing it native in linux. Hince why i asked all i seen was do this hack do that hack is why i posted. if it was there i got crap net so lol inbetween dc's i may have missed it... and within linux i could just copy all the data off the card and reformat it it formats just like anything would in windows just its linux not shutters windows
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Talk to wizard. He was successful doing it in *nix.
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I have seen it in several places on this forum that it is not possible to partition an SD card, or any other removable media in windows. This is incorrect. It is possible.
TRY THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK
First...
BACK UP YOUR CARD - YOU WILL LOOSE ALL DATA
Download windows enabler from softpediahere
second...
navigate to the folder you downloaded to and start the EXE. this app doesn't install, you just run in. You will notice a new icon in your SYSTRAY (the area by the clock). click on it once and you will see the icon changes to read "on".
third...
Be a bit careful now because you have just turned on every greyed out option in windows. (this can be useful for all sorts of things but be carefull)
Go into control panel>administrative tools>computer manager.
on the left click on Disk management.
find your SD card. If there is already a partition on it right click and click on delete partition. This is usually greyed out but if you followed all the instructions it wont be.
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right click again and click on New Partition. select primary in the wizard and leave the drive letter as is (or change if you really feel the need).
In the next screen you will be given the option of changeing the size, but... you guessed, it's greyed out. Never mind though, click there anyway and magically it is not greyed out any more. type in the size you want and format the partition.
you can now repeat step four for the next partition but when you get to the partition type all three options are grey, again if you just click on them they "come alive" because of windows enabler. There are various tools wich allow you to format to EXT2 from windows once the partition is created. I'm not gonna reccomend one becase I actually used one from panasonic and it was a bit rubbish, I dont know of a good one - go google and past here if you find a nice one.
I suggest deleting windows enabler at this stage as it is a dangerous peice of software. Keep the zip for future use!
You can also do this by editing the registry and skip the windows enabler part but I don't like the idea of giving directions for that, too easy to get it wrong and this is probably quicker, even including the download time for the enabler.
It works up to this step:
find your SD card. If there is already a partition on it right click and click on delete partition. This is usually greyed out but if you followed all the instructions it wont be.
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I've got message like:
The operation is not supported on removeable media
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What now?
This nifty little program does allow me to use the grayed out functionality, but still I cannot create 2 partitions on 1 SD card.
I have however been able to set the partition on my SD card to active with the help of this tool.
Robin
mrwam said:
It works up to this step:
I've got message like:
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I got the same message... Windows Vista 32-bit
try paragon partition manager 9 to create partition for the sdcard..
or download ubuntu and you can format it using ubuntu.
robpet2 said:
try paragon partition manager 9 to create partition for the sdcard..
or download ubuntu and you can format it using ubuntu.
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Live CD? I'm not willing to completely ditch Windows just to partition a lowly SD card.
U don't have to ditch windows... ubuntu let's u dual boot, and then u can delete ubuntu when u want to
robpet2 said:
U don't have to ditch windows... ubuntu let's u dual boot, and then u can delete ubuntu when u want to
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Still not interested and that doesn't answer my question really. Can formatting through an Ubuntu Live CD be successful? I have an Ubuntu Ultimate CD handy.
Thought u would have figured it out but u didn't.. the answer to your question is yes u can format using ubuntu... paragon worked for me easy.. but its up to on what u want to use to partition the sdcard...
Paragon (trial version) worked very well for me. It was intuitive and easy to do, I'm not the best with things like this but I didn't need more direction than "use Paragon, make EXT2 partition, no bigger than 2gb on Class 6 card".
uberingram said:
Still not interested and that doesn't answer my question really. Can formatting through an Ubuntu Live CD be successful? I have an Ubuntu Ultimate CD handy.
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I used Ubuntu but not running it on the live CD. Install it as a program in Vista. Then u can boot into Ubuntu after a restart.
thanks
Like i said, how can I create partitions on my sdcard? I've already tried the forum search and downloaded partition manager trial, but it doesnt allow me to create new partitions. So I was wondering, are there any other programs or ways to create partitions? Thanks a lot.
I'd recommend just getting an Ubuntu LiveCD and using gparted
This thread on how to partition, this thread on the JFv1.42 version to use when moving the apps to SD.
I strictly use Paragon Partition Manger..om my Windows 7 64bit machine... works great. Quick and easy to add Ext2 partitions.
webgrafix said:
I strictly use Paragon Partition Manger..om my Windows 7 64bit machine... works great. Quick and easy to add Ext2 partitions.
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Yeah this is what I use too. It is very easy and straightforward to create, resize, and remove a partition.
webgrafix said:
I strictly use Paragon Partition Manger..om my Windows 7 64bit machine... works great. Quick and easy to add Ext2 partitions.
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i tried using this program and it worked for about 2 hours, then the partition that i created just disappeared!!! Paragon Partition Manger cant see it, and im running windows so in the off chance it is still there, windows wont show it to me. has anyone else run into this problem? any known fixes?
has anyone tried making a ext loopback filesystem on a fat drive ?
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has anyone tried making a ext loopback filesystem on a fat drive ?
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Yes, it can be done, as long as your firmware includes ext2 as a module (all current JF firmwares do)
I am interested in just creating an Ext2 so that I can run G1 apps off SD. Paragon Partition Manager cost 39.95 and the trial version does not allow creation of partitions. Are there other alternatives?
Seventynin9 said:
I am interested in just creating an Ext2 so that I can run G1 apps off SD. Paragon Partition Manager cost 39.95 and the trial version does not allow creation of partitions. Are there other alternatives?
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Yes it does. It's fully functional for 30 days in fact.
Okay, to clarify things. The new trial for Paragon does NOT allow you to create the partition. On their website they currently have V10, it NO LONGER allows a lot of the functions before. You need to go download Paragon Partition Manager 9.0, it works great and gets the job done. I had this problem before too.
Thanks Solemn and Mark for your assistance. I did search for Paragon Partition Manger v9. I found the "express" version on CNET. Unfortunately, it did not have an option for partitioning SD card. Any ideas as to where I might find the full v9 on a trial basis?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=500387
Read through everything entirely.
Go through the dummy version, just in case.
It just might work for you.
Gl.
Seventynin9 said:
Thanks Solemn and Mark for your assistance. I did search for Paragon Partition Manger v9. I found the "express" version on CNET. Unfortunately, it did not have an option for partitioning SD card. Any ideas as to where I might find the full v9 on a trial basis?
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So you're just trying to partition your SD into 2 partitions? Why not create a win98 boot disk with fdisk on it and use fdisk to partition it? I can guide you through using fdisk if need be. You could also dl hiren's boot cd and it has partition magic on it. Both of these are freeware
While what I am attempting to accomplish maybe beyond my novice ability. What I am seeking to learn how to partition my SD card into FAT32 and EXT2. I've read through the link provided by Aprince. While it was bit overwhelming, I followed the "how-to-for-dummies" instructions without success. I must be omitting something in that instruction.
Shafty, I haven't the foggiest idea as to what you are talking about. lol. I might be willing to try that if it will in noway possibly harm my beloved G1 or PC.
I finally got it to work with the method in link provided by Aprince. My previous failed partition attempts screwed the SD Card. I reformatted. All is good. Thanks for your help.
So I decided to make this small guide, on how to partitioning your sd card with paragon partition manager… There is many different ways, including a script an xda forum member created, and ubuntu as well.. But I assume paragon partition manager might be the best for all people who don’t know how to use Linux very much..
i wrote it on my blog, if is considered spam than illtry to put the images content directly in the post
http://nitropr.us/web/2009/05/08/format-sd-card-with-paragon-partition-manager/
hope it helps some one.. i know i know there is MANY ways for this.. but well sicne paragon question keep popping up and did not see a small how to with images for new users so hope it helps least 1 person
Thanks! That will be useful for many... this should be sticky along with the sapphire/magic port (after someone starts a new thread for the newer builds. 600 pages!) Or at least a wrap stick (a thread that contains many highly used threads like in the developement and hacking section under the main thread) would be useful.
i think this is the easiest way. I did this to my card and took only a few min. def the way to go.
its a good guide, but i have a question everytime i try to format this way in paragon it says cannot create partition because all primary slots are taken, it says this when i try to resize or create new. any ideas?
Ok I resized my card using paragon my fat32 is 5gb and my EXT2 is 1.5gb. I went and tried to follow these instructions http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Haykuro_Apps_to_SD and for some reason I am not seeing the system/xbin/busybox folder.
Screenshot of my sdcard
jak33 said:
its a good guide, but i have a question everytime i try to format this way in paragon it says cannot create partition because all primary slots are taken, it says this when i try to resize or create new. any ideas?
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how many partitiosn it list for the sdcard? sometimes when you use the usb cable then tend to mess up.. try creatign the FAT32 formatign it and than rezise and make teh ext2
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Ok I resized my card using paragon my fat32 is 5gb and my EXT2 is 1.5gb. I went and tried to follow these instructions http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Haykuro_Apps_to_SD and for some reason I am not seeing the system/xbin/busybox folder.
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i am still using JF build haven't tried Haykuro builds... sicne my phone is smooth im kinda of lazy to be recofniguring not sure how that works mayeb some oen else can help you.
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how many partitiosn it list for the sdcard? sometimes when you use the usb cable then tend to mess up.. try creatign the FAT32 formatign it and than rezise and make teh ext2
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funny ting, my pc never reads my sd card unless its through the phone. Ive tried the card on multiple systems, and i get the same results. so im forced to modify the card while its in the phone.
chief2842 said:
Ok I resized my card using paragon my fat32 is 5gb and my EXT2 is 1.5gb. I went and tried to follow these instructions http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Haykuro_Apps_to_SD and for some reason I am not seeing the system/xbin/busybox folder.
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A few things here:
1. Unless you're planning on downloading every app ever made, you're never going to need a ext2 partition larger than 500mb, and even that is a LOT. I tried to fill my partition and managed to squeeze over 300 apps on there before I ran out of room...then I had to painfully uninstall them all cause I didnt feel like reformatting/reflashing/restoring.
2. Make sure you're using the right version of apps-to-sd. Haykuro's latest builds can be found here. The apps-to-sd versions are linked at the very top of the page.
3. The directories you're looking for are NOT on the sd card. They are only visible on the phone through adb. If you're not familiar with adb, do a quick forum search on how to set it up.
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funny ting, my pc never reads my sd card unless its through the phone. Ive tried the card on multiple systems, and i get the same results. so im forced to modify the card while its in the phone.
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when uiu partition via usb cable the partition tend to mess up.. and not moutn o n the phone..
what you can do is, insert the sdcard check min my computer under management and assign a letter to th sdcard so the pc will read it mount it
Thanks will look into the adb issues but I am using the 5.0.2Hr apps to sd build.
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I been trying to format the ext2 in my SDcard with Paragon Partition Manager but it saids I can use a demo version but it will not allow me to do the ext2 it saids I have to buy the full version. could someone tell me where to get the software that will work? thanks
vicmanf said:
I been trying to format the ext2 in my SDcard with Paragon Partition Manager but it saids I can use a demo version but it will not allow me to do the ext2 it saids I have to buy the full version. could someone tell me where to get the software that will work? thanks
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Merry Christmas, get your software here.
My first post here, but I have been visiting these forums for a long time.
I will try this approach and let's see how I do.
Thanks for posting!
is it worth it?
can a newb like me do it i seen a thread but just asking around
i am running 2.3.3 CM7 Nighty W/ Netarchy 1.2.5a cfs
are there any pros other than it reads faster and is that reads faster from phone to computer or just phone and can win7 read it i have never tried it thanks
It is already ext4.
i did not know that thanks its just i seen seperate threads about it in development
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it is already ext4.
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lorijuan1024 said:
i did not know that thanks its just i seen seperate threads about it in development
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What you've seen is the ext4 hack which just makes the system run faster and is built in to a lot of kernels or the guide to mount your SD card as ext4 which is very difficult and can easily do damage to your phone.
that is what i was looking at the sd card but will it work in win7? as in readable
lorijuan1024 said:
that is what i was looking at the sd card but will it work in win7? as in readable
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Only if your Windows 7 computer can read ext4, which I'm sure it doesn't do out of the box. You can download apps/drivers that will get you there, but that mod seems very complicated and the actual real world benefits are dubious to me, but your mileage may vary.
Is it possible to format a Android tablet completely. To give me a raw space that I could install something like Ubuntu or Windows even if I wanted to?
Nm delete thread. I found my answer