I'll be getting a Sensation later today but I'm wondering, does it feel like a dual-core phone? Does it feel fast in applications, web browsing, and day to day usage? Some reviewers say it doesn't which is kind of sad considering all the horsepower this thing has.
Arcadia310 said:
I'll be getting a Sensation later today but I'm wondering, does it feel like a dual-core phone? Does it feel fast in applications, web browsing, and day to day usage? Some reviewers say it doesn't which is kind of sad considering all the horsepower this thing has.
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yh it does feel faster than previous HTC phones,
i couldnt watch demand 5 even on my overclocked desire hd.
but i can on my sensation
BUT WAIT TILL BOOTLOADER IS UNLOCKED. WHIcH SHOULD BE SOON.
THIS PHONE WILL BE A FERRARI lol.
My opinion
Arcadia310 said:
I'll be getting a Sensation later today but I'm wondering, does it feel like a dual-core phone? Does it feel fast in applications, web browsing, and day to day usage? Some reviewers say it doesn't which is kind of sad considering all the horsepower this thing has.
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SGS II may feel faster due to hardware acceleration (Edit: for web browsing) and its simple and stock-looking environment (not too many nice animations on touchwiz 4).
Sense 3 is a pretty heavy environment, with rich graphics and animations. Still, all animations are ultra-smooth and environment or web browsing is pretty fast to me, (comparing it with my previous single core galaxy s.)
Still, SGS II may feel faster, but the 4.3" qHD screen and Sense 3 are some big advantages of sensation that made me go for it. anyway, extremely happy with my purchase.
Edit: did i mention the look and feel of the device? I love it
Hope this helps
Does it feel faster than my Nexus One? Yes.
Does it feel twice as fast as my Nexus One? Not even close.
I can't wait to see how this baby runs on without the heavy Sense UI.
Hey arcadia. Once you start using it you will notice how fast it is. And for it to be running resource hog sense then yes it does . Just install a stock android launcher. Then you will see what I'm taking about.
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I've only had this phone for one day, I think this is the fasted android device I've ever used. The UI is butter smooth despite the Sense overlay and with only 170 mb of free ram.
I'm still shocked that it takes less than 10 seconds to power on!
Bigmille said:
I've only had this phone for one day, I think this is the fasted android device I've ever used. The UI is butter smooth despite the Sense overlay and with only 170 mb of free ram.
I'm still shocked that it takes less than 10 seconds to power on!
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Only 170mb of free RAM? How is that possible? Do you have a lot of stuff running in the back ground? That kind of scares me because I might be giving my G2X to my wife and getting this phone but the G2X has less RAM than the Sensation but my G2X has 242mb of free RAM.
I think that is because the g2x doesn't have sense 3.0. Once you switch to another launcher and/or once we get a root and start getting custom ROMs, I think we'll see increase RAM available for the users.
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SGS II may feel faster due to hardware acceleration
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i thought hardware acceleration is already implemented in Gingerbread...??
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Only 170mb of free RAM? How is that possible? Do you have a lot of stuff running in the back ground? That kind of scares me because I might be giving my G2X to my wife and getting this phone but the G2X has less RAM than the Sensation but my G2X has 242mb of free RAM.
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I think he is confused mine says I have USED 174MB of Ram no way he can only have that much remaining LOL
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I think he is confused mine says I have USED 174MB of Ram no way he can only have that much remaining LOL
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Thank god!
alireza_simkesh said:
i thought hardware acceleration is already implemented in Gingerbread...??
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Nope, Gingerbread does not but Honeycomb does and Ice Cream Sandwich will. Also he is wrong. The SGSII is not hardware accelerated. Only the browser on it is which makes it pretty quick. The UI isn't accelerated though.
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Only 170mb of free RAM? How is that possible? Do you have a lot of stuff running in the back ground? That kind of scares me because I might be giving my G2X to my wife and getting this phone but the G2X has less RAM than the Sensation but my G2X has 242mb of free RAM.
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Will the task manager show 150 to 170 mb of ram free out of 558 mb when the phone is powered on. I don't have many widgets running on different screens. I think this is because the phone is shipped with 768mb of ram instead of 1Gb, and Sense is very ram intensive.
BUT, so far I’ve not ran into any slowdowns due to lack of ram, I’ve pushed the phone quite heavily since I got it. I was downloading video podcasts, market apps, browsing multiple websites and listing to music at the same time. I didn’t notice any slowdown or lag when switching between apps.
This phone is about 1/3 faster than an overclocked Galaxy tab running custom Gingerbread ROM, and much smoother than a stock Honeycomb on 3.01.
I played with the SGII, but I prefer the form factor of the Sensation, the curved back make the phone much easier to handle.
P.S. Attached a photo to show the amount of available ram after a fresh reboot. I'm not complaining as I've not encountered a low ram situation. I've set the phone to notify me if the free ram drops to less the 40 mb, so far no warning yet.
Never mind, the phone shows 315mb free and 180 mb used in running services under applications setting. Sorry for the confusion, don't trust what the task manager is reporting.
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I think this is because the phone is shipped with 768mb of ram instead of 1Gb
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seriously? are there 2 diff. versions of sensation with diff RAMs? or are u referring to boatwares of vodafone and whatnot?
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Nope, Gingerbread does not but Honeycomb does and Ice Cream Sandwich will. Also he is wrong.
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so the Adruno GPU is totally useless then?
how about dual-core optimization for programs?
alireza_simkesh said:
seriously? are there 2 diff. versions of sensation with diff RAMs? or are u referring to boatwares of vodafone and whatnot?
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You are thinking of internal storage. All variants of the Sensation have 1 GB of internal memory and 768 MB of RAM.
To the people complaining that they only have 150 MB of available RAM = That is how Android works. It loads as much as deemed necessary into RAM to speed up launching of applications. If you consider this approach, more RAM available = less applications ready to go = slower phone.
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You are thinking of internal storage. All variants of the Sensation have 1 GB of internal memory and 768 MB of RAM.
To the people complaining that they only have 150 MB of available RAM = That is how Android works. It loads as much as deemed necessary into RAM to speed up launching of applications. If you consider this approach, more RAM available = less applications ready to go = slower phone.
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Completely agree, free ram is wasted ram.
P.S. I made a mistake, my phone have 300 mb of available ram when switched on, please see my above post.
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Completely agree, free ram is wasted ram.
P.S. I made a mistake, my phone have 300 mb of available ram when switched on, please see my above post.
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LOL it's ok I was just wondering what you could possibly be running that would use over 500mb of ram LOL
Not only does it feel far faster than an overclocked Desire but the battery life seems pretty good too.
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This is a sweet phone and I would really like to get one.
However, I am not sure if 768M RAM is enough...... not talking about those score run
how do you guys feel about it?
any lag? any problem? any unhappy experiences because of lack of RAM?
Thanks in adv and sorry for my poor eng.
First off this phone does not have 768 of ram. I think the Thunderbolt and myTouch 4g are the only two phones with that amount. I could be wrong. This phone has 512 of ram and it does a good job of multitasking. The 2 issues I notice is browser lag on flash websites and the wifi does'nt seen to be that fast as previous phones I've tested. This isn't a bad phone. YouTube it and watch reviews and see if its the right phone for you.
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I took the plunge and ordered a g2x. I'm coming from a mytouch 4g that has 768mb of ram (running cm 7) how is the free ram holding up on the g2x since it only has 512? Thats the one thing im most concerned about.
Anyone coming from a device that had more than 512 and is seeing a noticeable difference? When I had my g2 I was lucky if I had 80 megs of free space. With my mt4g with 768 I always have at least 200 sometimes 300 megs free
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With linux/android free ram is wasted ram, it will free up memory when it's needed otherwise just let it chill and do it's thing.
Seems snappy so far. One slowdown last night though not sure what was contributing. Great phone!
This phone is pretty quick. I don't monitor things like how much ram is used or available unless there is an issue to troubleshoot. So far, no issues as far as performance is concerned. Even when launching multiple apps and not closing them. It appears that android is doing what it's supposes to.
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According to Advanced Task Manager, there is about 200MB available to me upon startup. It's not too bad, and I don't have to intentionally kill apps (unless they go rogue and keep the GPS on for some reason). It's just enough, but I'm hoping CM7 frees up a bit more.
Linux by nature doesn't require a bunch of free RAM sitting around. 512MB seems to be plenty, I've had numerous apps running together and haven't seen many hiccups at all.
Keep in mind the G2x doesn't even have 512MB RAM. 128 of those is reserved for the GPU so the phone runs with just 384MB RAM. I am a little worried, come a year or so down the road, but for now it seems to be more than enough.
jimbo831 said:
Keep in mind the G2x doesn't even have 512MB RAM. 128 of those is reserved for the GPU so the phone runs with just 384MB RAM. I am a little worried, come a year or so down the road, but for now it seems to be more than enough.
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A year or so down the road this phone will be old news and there will be quad core phones out by then. Lol. I never hold a phone longer than a year. Just this year alone I went from the g2 to the mytouch 4g and now I'm getting the g2x and I bet by the end of the year I have a different phone. Lol
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graffixnyc said:
A year or so down the road this phone will be old news and there will be quad core phones out by then. Lol. I never hold a phone longer than a year. Just this year alone I went from the g2 to the mytouch 4g and now I'm getting the g2x and I bet by the end of the year I have a different phone. Lol
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I only wish I could afford to do that. Unfortunately, I won't have $500 to plop down on a new phone any time soon so I had to pick a phone I think will last the full 22 months until I'm eligible for another upgrade. I still went with the G2x. I think it will be fine, so I hope I'm right.
I just bought the sensation yesterday from T-Mobile. It seems to me after plenty of use that the battery gets drained good. Though, the speed doesn't. My friends HD2 with the similar sensation rom on it ran almost as smooth as this phone, while his was clocked single core 1ghz...even at a single core this phone should be faster right? Not only does HTC lock the bootloader, but do they also lock the dual-cores?
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While speed might not be as fast as it could be, I have to say that multitasking is flawless. I came from the Vibrant and the phone would freeze up doing normal activities (lock screen, phone calls, etc). I have yet to have the sensation freeze up on me. THAT is what I care about, not which app drawer loads fastest. Reliability is key.
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I just bought the sensation yesterday from T-Mobile. It seems to me after plenty of use that the battery gets drained good. Though, the speed doesn't. My friends HD2 with the similar sensation rom on it ran almost as smooth as this phone, while his was clocked single core 1ghz...even at a single core this phone should be faster right? Not only does HTC lock the bootloader, but do they also lock the dual-cores?
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Sounds like he was running a Sense 2.1 ROM with Sense 3.0 lockscreen - that's the only combination I could find on my HD2 that gave ANY kind of performance.
All of the Sense 3.0 ROMs ran so badly on my HD2 that I couldn't keep them on my phone more than a day.
Honestly I believe that the software we have right now is not optimized for dual core so until Ice cream Sandwich comes out. I really doubt dual cores are really gong to be make that much of a difference.
Most would agree that while Sense 3.0 is pretty to look at, it's a giant resource hog. And from what I understand, it's also poorly coded.
I think once we see an unlocked bootloader and custom ROMs, you'll see and feel the benefits of dual cores.
Also, battery life gets better after a few days. I've had mine for over a week now and it seems to get better every day.
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Most would agree that while Sense 3.0 is pretty to look at, it's a giant resource hog. And from what I understand, it's also poorly coded.
I think once we see an unlocked bootloader and custom ROMs, you'll see and feel the benefits of dual cores.
Also, battery life gets better after a few days. I've had mine for over a week now and it seems to get better every day.
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God.. thank you for mentioning about the battery life... Yesterday (1st day) my phone was draining ~9%/hr, today it's more like 5-7%/hr. With the same settings, my HD2 could do 2%/hr... I was starting to get worried about the issue. Hopefully I will see the battery life extend as time goes on like you suggested.
MAN thats the truth what a slow device and its funny i walked into tmobile to try it before i said it was slow and the rep saw my g2x in my hand and said your G2x is going to be faster then that sensation that your going to touch hahaha FUNNY.The sensation spit out a 2050 on quadrant i guess is ok but my g2x stock on 2.2 spits out a 2500 to 2700 so think when 2.3 hits anywho the sensation looks good on paper but real world no
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Sense 3.0 is crippling the phone. I think we'll see a big improvement when we get an unlocked bootloader and custom ROMs
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Most would agree that while Sense 3.0 is pretty to look at, it's a giant resource hog. And from what I understand, it's also poorly coded.
I think once we see an unlocked bootloader and custom ROMs, you'll see and feel the benefits of dual cores.
Also, battery life gets better after a few days. I've had mine for over a week now and it seems to get better every day.
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E-mac, what special methods, if any, did you use to condition the new battery? What was you charging habits? Care to give us your experience with the battery, like how long run and how much better left at end of day? Thanks allot
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Wait for an ota. It will iron out the kinks. According to android central, the evolution 3d is faster. There is little reason for this beyond the 3d maybe having more optimized software since it came out later/ was delayed. I know he sensation has less memory, but in the android architecture that is not a big deal if you still have some ram free...unlike windows where the more the better. In android, if your not using all your memory and you got a decent amount free, your good to go.
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One thing I have noticed reading all the Sensation reviews - the browser performance is quite poor, especially in sunspider. In fact it appears to be slower than my SGS which is a single 1ghz hummingbird processor. Is it just the Sense browser that is not optimised for dual core? does opera mobile give better performance?
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One thing I have noticed reading all the Sensation reviews - the browser performance is quite poor, especially in sunspider. In fact it appears to be slower than my SGS which is a single 1ghz hummingbird processor. Is it just the Sense browser that is not optimised for dual core? does opera mobile give better performance?
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Were you running a custom Rom on your SGS? Most custom roms have had major improvements to their javascript performance (which is what sunspider tests).
Multitasking is where this processor shines. Even on my G2X I would have to use the app called Fast Reboot to speed things up after a couple hours of use but I have had the Sensation on for 48 hours straight without using that app once and it's still lightning fast.
I think most people on here are expecting way to much from the dual core devices when most everything out there isn't even optimized for it. Sit back, relax and wait until we get optimization or go back to your HD2.
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E-mac, what special methods, if any, did you use to condition the new battery? What was you charging habits? Care to give us your experience with the battery, like how long run and how much better left at end of day? Thanks allot
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Not intending to hijack the thread, but I havent done anything special to condition the battery like I had to on my Evo. I can easily get through a day and a half with moderate use. It's almost always going to seem abysmal to start with simply because you can't put the damn thing down.
I just bought the sensation yesterday and played with it extensively and speed was fine, I'm sure time will tell if my opinions will change. Its charging now...but honestly folks, for those that complain about its speed, how fast does the phone need to be before people stop complaining about speed.
The question should really be does the phone perform fast enough so that the user does not experience lag on any of the apps, video/audio, texting, etc...functions they perform. If you are experiencing this then please explain what apps or programs you were running and what you are using as your basis for comparisons.
Its like buying the latest and greatest PC or Mac and then running dos programs...unless you are running really intensive A/V, memory or resource processes/programs, these benchmark scores really don't amount to much but a number for the average/typical user no matter how geeky or technical we think we are.
~rant over :-D
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jrwingate6 said:
Multitasking is where this processor shines. Even on my G2X I would have to use the app called Fast Reboot to speed things up after a couple hours of use but I have had the Sensation on for 48 hours straight without using that app once and it's still lightning fast.
I think most people on here are expecting way to much from the dual core devices when most everything out there isn't even optimized for it. Sit back, relax and wait until we get optimization or go back to your HD2.
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Amen!
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I have a HOX and love it but also got a SGS3 today and man having the extra 1GB of memory really makes the phone fly since apps basically stay in RAM from boot so there's no loading and websites load smooth because there's room to expand. This screen shot is with all same apps installed and running as my HOX.
I wish I could add 1GB of RAM into the HOX. That's very important to me.
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mobilehavoc said:
I have a HOX and love it but also got a SGS3 today and man having the extra 1GB of memory really makes the phone fly since apps basically stay in RAM from boot so there's no loading and websites load smooth because there's room to expand. This screen shot is with all same apps installed and running as my HOX.
I wish I could add 1GB of RAM into the HOX. That's very important to me.
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Nice! Hows the build quality on that thing? Is it really as bad as they say? Is it really as ugly as it looks? I wouldn't mind having 2GBs of ram. The build quality and the size concern me. Does it feel a lot bigger than your HOX?
seh6183 said:
Nice! Hows the build quality on that thing? Is it really as bad as they say? Is it really as ugly as it looks? I wouldn't mind having 2GBs of ram. The build quality and the size concern me. Does it feel a lot bigger than your HOX?
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It feels better in hand because its slimmer. The build quality is surprisingly good but not as good as HOX. The screen is much nicer than my Nexus but not as good as HOX. I guess it depends what you use your phone for but the 2GB of RAM is making it hard for me to go back to HOX. Apart from speed of apps because they're always in memory its amazing how you can hit home on something like this post, go play a few games, browse web, do a bunch of crap and when you come back its as you left it. It makes it a more fun experience for me personally.
I just got the phone today so haven't decided whether to keep it or not but will take a week to compare with HOX before deciding.
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Its called the placebo effect.
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The extra RAM on the S3 is really the only thing about it that appeals to me, but it just isn't enough to justify giving up a great phone like the One X. I think we'll have less issues with RAM once we're able to modify the kernel source, but even if that never happens, I'm satisfied with this phone's performance.
Remember: software can always be optimized, but hardware can never be changed. I'm not trading the One X's ridiculously good LCD screen for an AMOLED, regardless of how much RAM they stick in the S3.
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Its called the placebo effect.
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Placebo effect? You're kidding right?
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Here is a great article. It explains RAM: What it is, how it's used, and why you shouldn't care. (This isn't a joke) http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
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Here is a great article. It explains RAM: What it is, how it's used, and why you shouldn't care. (This isn't a joke) http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
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That article is great but 2GB of RAM is better than 1GB. Otherwise everyone would still be buying computers with 1GB of RAM. They would still work great but...you get it?
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It feels better in hand because its slimmer. The build quality is surprisingly good but not as good as HOX. The screen is much nicer than my Nexus but not as good as HOX. I guess it depends what you use your phone for but the 2GB of RAM is making it hard for me to go back to HOX. Apart from speed of apps because they're always in memory its amazing how you can hit home on something like this post, go play a few games, browse web, do a bunch of crap and when you come back its as you left it. It makes it a more fun experience for me personally.
I just got the phone today so haven't decided whether to keep it or not but will take a week to compare with HOX before deciding.
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I wonder why the screen looks better than the Nexus. I though they were essentially the same amoled panel. Hows the back of the phone look? Does that coating look and feel pretty sturdy? The 2 GB thing is pretty enticing...
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Here is a great article. It explains RAM: What it is, how it's used, and why you shouldn't care. (This isn't a joke) http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
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Actually RAM does matter. Just as the OP said, apps can remain alive longer without having to close. 2GB is the next step and I'm already starting to get jealous.
I'm curious how battery life compares to the One X, too. Does keeping all of those applications constantly in memory take a hit to battery life?
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I'm curious how battery life compares to the One X, too. Does keeping all of those applications constantly in memory take a hit to battery life?
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No because they become cached and go to sleep which uses 0 CPU. For properly coded apps anyway...
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That article is great but 2GB of RAM is better than 1GB. Otherwise everyone would still be buying computers with 1GB of RAM. They would still work great but...you get it?
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A better way to phase it is 2gb ram is not that big of a deal on android... unless you have a Sense 4 device. Then you need it
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That article is great but 2GB of RAM is better than 1GB. Otherwise everyone would still be buying computers with 1GB of RAM. They would still work great but...you get it?
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That is correct a PC would be better with more RAM but you need to understand that Android doesn't work that way.
No one said 2gb of RAM was bad.
It just isn't necessary. For myself, I enjoy the HOX much better. And yes, I've held a SGSIII before.
The HOX just feels better to me.
But again, to each, his own.
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I wonder why the screen looks better than the Nexus. I though they were essentially the same amoled panel. Hows the back of the phone look? Does that coating look and feel pretty sturdy? The 2 GB thing is pretty enticing...
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Actually RAM does matter. Just as the OP said, apps can remain alive longer without having to close. 2GB is the next step and I'm already starting to get jealous.
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More RAM doesn't affect over all performance though, it might be important if you need to multitask with 20 different apps or games.
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A better way to phase it is 2gb ram is not that big of a deal on android... unless you have a Sense 4 device. Then you need it
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That is correct a PC would be better with more RAM but you need to understand that Android doesn't work that way.
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Yes its true. Android is extremely good at managing memory in the background and functions better keeping the RAM loaded with apps.
With that said. The more available RAM you have for use, the better. I don't see why this concept is so hard for some people to grasp. The more apps that can remain in memory, the better. If this wasn't the case then the phones would ship with 100mb of ram........
I am a newbie with regard to how Android handles ram but you are only using 511 MB of the 2 GB of ram. How does that make a huge difference? If I had a HTC One X and it was using 511 MB of the 1 GB of ram. Wouldn't they be doing the same thing since both still have free ram?
I would think if you had a picture showing 1.5GB of the 2GB of ram being use, than that would be the case that the 1 GB is not enough on the HTC One X or any other phone for that matter.
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More RAM doesn't affect over all performance though, it might be important if you need to multitask with 20 different apps or games.
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Wrong again, it does because the apps remain cached in memory so the next time you go to them they load instantly. Otherwise they'd have to be loaded from storage which is slower.
Like I said I prefer the HOX in many aspects but it really needs more memory or less bloat really be the best. It always seems each phone is missing something. Sucks.
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More RAM doesn't affect over all performance though, it might be important if you need to multitask with 20 different apps or games.
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And this is exactly what its function is. The guy with 2gb will go to access an app that was never shut down, therefore his app will open faster than the guy with 1 gb of ram. Not only that but the app will be in the exact state he left it. It opens faster, therefore it has better performance...
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I am a newbie with regard to how Android handles ram but you are only using 511 MB of the 2 GB of ram. How does that make a huge difference? If I had a HTC One X and it was using 511 MB of the 1 GB of ram. Wouldn't they be doing the same thing since both still have free ram?
I would think if you had a picture showing 1.5GB of the 2GB of ram being use, than that would be the case that the 1 GB is not enough on the HTC One X or any other phone for that matter.
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Yes but over time, that RAM would get filled up. It doesn't take long.
mobilehavoc said:
Wrong again, it does because the apps remain cached in memory so the next time you go to them they load instantly. Otherwise they'd have to be loaded from storage which is slower.
Like I said I prefer the HOX in many aspects but it really needs more memory or less bloat really be the best. It always seems each phone is missing something. Sucks.
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Don't worry it will be the new standard soon. They should just make the new standard 4gb and get it over with now
Ok we get it. The SGS3 is a better phone and all of us HOX owners are losers. Can we close this and the other SGS 3 threads now?
Hey there
So I recently got and i9300 and am loving it so far - except it sucks at multitasking big time. when I open around 3 or 4 apps, switching between them will inevitably make them reload.
It's not possible to open the browser, a game, whatsapp and then reading your emails without the browser complety reloading the page you have been viewing or the game starting from scratch when switching to either one from the recent apps list.
This blows and is super annoying because when I play a game, then pause it to text someone, go look up a site in the browser and maybe watch a youtube video, the game is closed in the background so that when I switch back to it, it completly restarts the whole thing (losing all my unsaved progress). Mind you this is only 4 apps. Same thing happens if the app is suspended for more than 15min or so, it just gets closed. Oh even nicer, it also happens when I play a game and get a call. After finishing the call and returning to the game, it's restarting -_-
Seeing how the free ram is always around 100-200mb, I assume the situtation should be dramatically better on the 2GB version. People keep saying 1GB is plenty enough but it simply isn't if you do more than texting and listening to music on your device. Even google acknowledged this by bumping the Ram up to 2GB on the Nexus 4 (which is supposed to be the reference for future androidphones btw)
What are your experiences with the 2GB model? What is the limit of things you can do before stuff gets closed?
With my 2 Gb model I normally have over 1 Gb of free memory and I do a lot of multitasking. I'm usually using 700-900 megs out of the 2 gigs. I've never had things be auto closed on me.
Sorry to hear that about your phone =/
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foocankill said:
With my 2 Gb model I normally have over 1 Gb of free memory and I do a lot of multitasking. I'm usually using 700-900 megs out of the 2 gigs. I've never had things be auto closed on me.
Sorry to hear that about your phone =/
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Agreed. My g/f has the Razr M and it's essentially what the OP has yet a smaller screen, obviously. The difference in ram is very noticeable in my opinion. Home screen scrolling produces slight lag on her M on the Jellybean update from Moto. It's interesting to note that Moto's newest Jellybean OTA is almost AOSP'ish and only 254mb in size. ICS and Jellybean Touchwiz is 600+ mb in size and pushing a much larger screen. My S3 experiences no lag and no multi-tasking problems which I can't help but chalk up to the 2gb of RAM vs the 1gb on the M and i9300 S3.
Just what I thought. It doesn't take a genius to figure 1gb ram is a bottleneck when it is always almost completly filled.
I still don't get the vast majority of people out there preaching how 1gb ram is more than enough for andorid when it simply isn't. Be lucky with our S3'guys, I'd take the additional gigabyte of ram over a quadcore cpu any day.
Vipeout said:
I'd take the additional gigabyte of ram over a quadcore cpu any day.
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This is what i said before the device was even relased and got bashed...on aosp 1gb might be ok, but touchwiz needs 2gb bare minimum.
droidstyle said:
This is what i said before the device was even relased and got bashed...on aosp 1gb might be ok, but touchwiz needs 2gb bare minimum.
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I know the feeling, buddy.
I've always found RAM to be the largest bottleneck on my previous Android devices. Having said that, have you thoroughly investigated to make sure RAM is your issue?
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Vipeout, you bought the wrong phone bro.
The i9305 has 2GB, LTE, Exynos, and global GSM.
The i535 has 2GB, LTE, Snapdragon, global GSM, and global CDMA.
Cappurnikus said:
I've always found RAM to be the largest bottleneck on my previous Android devices. Having said that, have you thoroughly investigated to make sure RAM is your issue?
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Yeah, the RAM is totally crippling the phone. It's not an issue when u run a single app, it has enough to run any app/game.
But as soon as you leave the app and start something else, the first app will be closed by the time you switch back to it.
Happens all the time with "Bad piggies" for me. I play, go out to look something up on the web, maybe look up a walkthrough vid on youtube, and upon switching back to the game I am greeted with the startup screen. Sucks so much I really want to throw the phone out the window.
LLStarks said:
Vipeout, you bought the wrong phone bro.
The i9305 has 2GB, LTE, Exynos, and global GSM.
The i535 has 2GB, LTE, Snapdragon, global GSM, and global CDMA.
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Neither of those is available from my provider. Actually, the i9305 currently is being sold by only one shop and without contact.
Only thing I could do is sell my i9300 and get the 2gb variant without contract. This is a bad move though since the next galaxy probably will be released in half a year. Still, this multitasking issues are becoming unbearable. My old iphone 3gs could simply suspend any app and resume when going back to it, no matter how many other apps were open. Oh the irony...
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Yeah, the RAM is totally crippling the phone. It's not an issue when u run a single app, it has enough to run any app/game.
But as soon as you leave the app and start something else, the first app will be closed by the time you switch back to it.
Happens all the time with "Bad piggies" for me. I play, go out to look something up on the web, maybe look up a walkthrough vid on youtube, and upon switching back to the game I am greeted with the startup screen. Sucks so much I really want to throw the phone out the window.
Neither of those is available from my provider. Actually, the i9305 currently is being sold by only one shop and without contact.
Only thing I could do is sell my i9300 and get the 2gb variant without contract. This is a bad move though since the next galaxy probably will be released in half a year. Still, this multitasking issues are becoming unbearable. My old iphone 3gs could simply suspend any app and resume when going back to it, no matter how many other apps were open. Oh the irony...
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I'm seriously over the rediculous limitations of 1GB of RAM.
Basically if I open chrome on my S3 and switch between two tabs.. everything else gets memory managed, including touchwiz so even pressing the home button takes several seconds for the live wallpaper, then icons, then widgets to load up again. Forget having any other apps remain in memory, that just doesn't happen.
Whoever put 1GB of RAM in this phone should be slapped (repeatedly). It doesn't work properly. This is supposed to be a flagship phone. I would have paid a little extra to actually have a phone that can switch between applications without things getting closed all the time. I waited for and bought the more expensive 32GB version so that I would not have to worry about filling internal memory. Ironic that I'm still frustrated by limited memory, but in a different way. It's little wonder countries with later releases of the original S3 got 2GB (eg Japan).
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it would be nice to have both a quad-core and 2GB of ram but looking at it now im glad it has the extra GB where as the quad-core is barely any different then the S4 in terms of performance
Benchmarks thoroughly disagree with that statement.
Mali 400 GPU (Exynos) > Adreno 225 GPU (S4)
90 FPS in glbench vs 60 FPS isn't even a contest
Is it normal that mine says 1.56 in the task manager under Ram?
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Benchmarks thoroughly disagree with that statement.
Mali 400 GPU (Exynos) > Adreno 225 GPU (S4)
90 FPS in glbench vs 60 FPS isn't even a contest
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Benchmarks dont mean dog dookie...i doubt there is a noticeable difference for the average user. Yes all the gaming buffs will appreciate the quad core but other than that ram is much more important.
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jdub251 said:
Is it normal that mine says 1.56 in the task manager under Ram?
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Yes roughly 400mb is dedicated to the rom.
Thanks a lot. Since I've gotten S3 I've done do much to it that I thought I might of screwed it up. Lol
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Joey22688 said:
it would be nice to have both a quad-core and 2GB of ram but looking at it now im glad it has the extra GB where as the quad-core is barely any different then the S4 in terms of performance
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The i9305 has both.
2g of ram is the new standard, and the reason I wanted to upgrade to this phone.
My next phone will have more than 2g of ram, and I'm sure the gs3 will be more than capable of anything I do until that time comes.
Here's a screen capture of my ram atm
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Have you tried clean rom or other smaller roms with around 200-300 mb . I've noticed most tw roms are around 600-700mb which would basically use up more than half of the 1gb phones.
Loving my 2gb phone
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Multi tasking on the US version could not be smoother. Much better than my previous galaxy nexus
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