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You guys who complain constantly that the Thunderbolt isn't running a dual core processor need to just stop and realize that software follows hardware development by months and years. That means that even if the TB HAD a dual core processor, not only would Gingerbread not be able to fully utilize it, but none of the software available in the market would know what to do with dual cores either.
When dual cores came out for PC systems, Windows XP wasn't even capable of using more than one core. They had to put out a new OS, Vista - which sucks - and then service patch the hell out of XP for it to take advantage of the dual core systems. Hell, Windows didn't even natively support Hyperthreading when Intel first announced it, it also took a huge patch to be recognized and dealt with by the XP Operating System.
All you guys complaining about not having dual cores in HTC phones should be THANKING HTC for giving us the most stable and best hardware on the market... No, they aren't "bleeding edge" like Samsung, but lets be honest here... How many Android users do you know who own any number of HTC phones, and how many do you know who are either not happy with, or returned their Samsung phones? I love the Droid 1, and don't get me wrong, the Droid Bionic looks like one badass phone, but I'll stick with HTC and stability any day over bleeding edge features that might not work for months because of the software not being able to keep up with the hardware changes.
Again, Gingerbread does NOT have the capability to take full advantage of dual core processors yet, so stop worrying about it, and just be happy with the fact that they are still producing phones for us that work, that people are pleased with, and don't get returned because of a ****ty UI or sluggish response compared to another phone. I dunno about you guys, but I'm getting a Thunderbolt on release day, and in three months, I'll upgrade another line to the next HTC release, and three months after that, and so on until I've replaced all 5 of my lines with brand spankin new HTC phones. Screw the lockdown on Moto phones - and even if the Bionic isn't locked down, it will still have Motoblur (read: failsauce) - and the crappy UI and toyish feel of Samsung phones... HTC is always on the forefront of Android development... and for everything they've given us in the Eris, the Incredible, and now the Thunderbolt, we should be a bit more appreciative.
Feel free to complain about the battery life, cuz yeah... it sucks.
What incentive do you have for upgrading if you already contain one of the countless other android phones that were released in the last year with
A 1ghz processor
<3.7inch screen 800x480
5/8mp HDR rear cam
VGA/1.3 mp ffc
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Including the DINC
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Better processor, better gpu, more ram, LTE.
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Better processor, better gpu, more ram, LTE.
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Theres other phones with the same cpu and gpu releaaed in the past year, the DHD for example.
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Well yeah, but the DHD isn't available to Verizon users. The comparable for most of us is the Incredible and the Thunderbolt IS an upgrade, despite misconceptions about its processor.
The thunderbolt is an upgrade if:
A) you have a DInc but you're in one of 38 lte marketplaces
B) you have an eris
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The thunderbolt is an upgrade if:
A) you have a DInc but you're in one of 38 lte marketplaces
B) you have an eris
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and C) you're wife just dropped her D1 and broke the screen, and now you have to give her your Droid Incredible. heh.
I can pretty much guarantee an upgrade yearly thanks to her butterfingers...
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A) you have a DInc but you're in one of 38 lte marketplaces
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A lot of us are in those markets.
Hoping to ditch my Eris as soon as this comes out. Hopefully they'll offer an early upgrade option since my contract doesn't expire until May. Still, that wouldn't be too long to wait. Here's hoping I don't get screwed with extra 4G prices since I won't be in any of those 2011 markets, and I only want a 1-year contract for this puppy.
Since the LTE functionality has it's own SIM, it could be removed if the user didn't want LTE and then VZW wouldn't need to charge extra for 4G. Of course, all of this would depend on VZW not being greedy and not following the Sprint's example... which is pretty unlikely, I guess.
LTE is the reason for change. As for XP... It handles multiple cores just fine, op.
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LTE is the reason for change. As for XP... It handles multiple cores just fine, op.
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it handles multi cores fine now..
Not when it came out which is entirely his point.
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it handles multi cores fine now..
Not when it came out which is entirely his point.
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This, exactly.
I'm still rocking my G1 that I got almost two years ago with T-Mo. Contract is up mid-Feb. I can't WAIT to hop on VZW with the Thunderbolt.
Well, I am rockin the Eris still, can upgrade in March, and I'm stuck between ThunderBolt, LG Revolution, and Samsung's no-name. I'm just disappointed because the ThunderBolt is essentially an Evo. So in the like 9 months since that was released, has HTC not made any advances? That's what's most upsetting to me, you know?
Totally. I have noticed every phone worth caring about for the last 6 months at least have had 4.3" screens. The last 4 or so HTC phones have been basically the same hardware. I understand the draw of the huge screen but I'm 5'2" so... HTC please give me thunderbolt specs in Eris / Nexus size >.<
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I'm just disappointed because the ThunderBolt is essentially an Evo. So in the like 9 months since that was released, has HTC not made any advances? That's what's most upsetting to me, you know?
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That would be upsetting if it were true. Luckily it's not.
Not all processors are created equal. The 1ghz processor is not the same 1ghz processor as the incredible (google pipelining). I think the incredible has a version 1 snapdragon and the thunderbolt is a version 3.
As far as I'm concerned, I'd rather have sense with a single core than blur with a million cores!
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I love you OP.
To the person that said they were waiting on the Samsung with no name. A little advice, save yourself because that phone will start off an entire OS version behind. And it won't even be samsungs flagship device as far as we know ATM. so it will likely never even get gingerbread. And even if it is a flagship device from them, look at the entire US galaxy s line. All five of them are "flagship" type devices. Question. Do they even have froyo. Answer. NO! I wasted almost $600 on that POS fascinate. That is actually a nice phone just doesn't have froyo. So don't waste any more time with Samsung. I think we, as paying customers needto make sure they pay a price for their disloyalty(word?).
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I have an eris. Every once in awhile I go on craigslist and search for stuff for sale. Found a like new Droid X with case for $200. They go for 300+ on ebay. Dude wants an iPhone I'll be picking it up on the 31st....already got the MEID from him and checked it with verizon.
I'm gonna use that for a few months and see what develops in LTE. I've seen rumors that Moto has been modifying Blur to make it less intrusive, more like vanilla. Should be able to get 200-250 for the DX ina few months.
I like the RAM increase in the Thunderbolt (can also OC) vs the Bionic. And, though still speculative since they aren't out, the TB should be easier to root and install custom roms.
Is the atrix the only upcoming phone with 1GB of ram? I can't find anything on the revolution.
The samsung is weird looking.
does any one know how much RAM is in the infuse?! I can't find it online...
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does any one know how much RAM is in the infuse?! I can't find it online...
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Read down in the comments sections on Engadget. This guy is saying 429MB
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/13/samsung-infuse-4g-review/
I did, but it's one guys... I would think it at least has the same as the inspire..
From everything I've read, it's officially listed at 512MB. The 429, is what probably what he was seeing in real world use.
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this says 1GB
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/144715/20110512/samsung-infuse-4g-hp-veer-4g-at-t.htm
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this says 1GB
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/144715/20110512/samsung-infuse-4g-hp-veer-4g-at-t.htm
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I assure you it's not 1GB, it's 512MB
picked mine up today.
shows 429 mb ram
512?? I'll pass, I was gonna renew and get this over the sgsII since I dont care for the CPU.. but RAM is something I care about, as my inspire boggs down already.. these phones need to be unleashed from these bottlenecks!
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512?? I'll pass, I was gonna renew and get this over the sgsII since I dont care for the CPU.. but RAM is something I care about, as my inspire boggs down already.. these phones need to be unleashed from these bottlenecks!
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Boggs down? *scratches head* We have 768 of RAM, and I get very little lag on mine. You have a lot of processes running, or do you think you have a laggy unit? Now there is a device, codenamed Holiday, that is speculated for release on ATT that has a full 1GB RAM. It is speculated for release later this summer. Might be worth it hold off getting a new one till we know more about that device.
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yes, I have a ton of stuff running lol.... I will say that leedroid ROM has cleared a lot of stuff off, and it runs really good..
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picked mine up today.
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How does the phone run? Compared to the Inspire of course.
I'm a sales rep at an at&t store and I can tell you that I was sadly disappointed with the Infuse. My Inspire actually was faster.
Need some comparison with this two phones.
I currently have the MT4G,just want to know if its worth trading with an LG g2x?
Not worth it. Wait for the SGS2 or Sensation!
or the mt4g slide!
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Not worth it. Wait for the SGS2 or Sensation!
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I'm already running sense 3.0 on this device.hmmm,yeah maybe the sgs2 will do.
Only issue is that there might not be a SGS2 for T-mo. The names have been revealed for all carriers, but there's no sign of one for us. The G2X is better than the MT4G in it's specs, but wait 7 days and get the sensation. bigger screen, better processor, and HTC build quality. Also, it doesn't look like it will be super expensive. Walmart will have it for 150 on contract.
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The G2X is better than the MT4G in it's specs
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Only the processor is better. It has a lot less RAM (512 vs the MT4G's 768). I would never want to run a ROM like Virtuous Fusion on the G2x with such little RAM.
I'm just saying I have used a g2x and its very snappy.
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I went from MT4G to G2X. It is faster - even without an android ROM that optimizes duel core (true for all of them), which was to be 2.4 - but that has been pushed way back.
The Sensation is supposed to have the boot loader locked - so forget flashing anything. There is chatter about HTC coming out with an unlocking mechanism - but I would not buy that device based on maybe it will get unlocked.
Some have gotten quadrent scores of 5000+ with CM7 and faux kernel (Max OC "only" 1500 currently). It has a better camera then the sense camera on MT4G, but I never liked the sense one - it had too much compression, so used camera app form the market on my MT4G.
HTC confirmed that they were working on an update for the sensation to unlock its bootloader. I would not worry about it.
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I went from MT4G to G2X. It is faster - even without an android ROM that optimizes duel core (true for all of them), which was to be 2.4 - but that has been pushed way back.
The Sensation is supposed to have the boot loader locked - so forget flashing anything. There is chatter about HTC coming out with an unlocking mechanism - but I would not buy that device based on maybe it will get unlocked.
Some have gotten quadrent scores of 5000+ with CM7 and faux kernel (Max OC "only" 1500 currently). It has a better camera then the sense camera on MT4G, but I never liked the sense one - it had too much compression, so used camera app form the market on my MT4G.
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I went from the G2x to the MT4G (gave up on the G2x because of backlight bleeding). I honestly didn't feel much of a difference. Virtuous Fusion on my MT4G runs fast enough for anything and with Chainfire3D, I can play all the Tegra 2 games and do everything fast as I need. I was originally planning on getting the Sensation. I still might, but I'm considering waiting til the Tegra 3 and comparable phones come out.
I would wait till next year when they start making Quad-core phones, which is in Qualcomm's roadmap, and probably others too. The G2X will be outdone by the SGSII(Fastest Phone now, blows G2X ) . The Sensation is slower than the SGSII, but is still a good phone nonetheless. Not really worth the upgrade from the MT4G. If you care about things like ram, companies are starting to use 1GB ram and hopefully they increase ROM size for more internal storage.
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I would wait till next year when they start making Quad-core phones, which is in Qualcomm's roadmap, and probably others too.
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Agreed. For me this phone will totally be enough for the next year and a half thanks to the awesome work of the dev community. Rooting and flashing a custom ROM has given my phone new life, so personally I can now confidently wait to get my next "uber" phone when my contract expires.
it seems that the g2x has alot of problems compared to mytouch 4g. the one i was able to use kept shutting off and on!
i would wait for something worthwhile!
One of my coworkers has this phone. I messed around with it for a while and it seems to be pretty nice, but not quite enough of an upgrade for me to ditch this phone for.
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The Sensation is supposed to have the boot loader locked - so forget flashing anything. There is chatter about HTC coming out with an unlocking mechanism - but I would not buy that device based on maybe it will get unlocked.
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Almost every phone on XDA started out with a locked bootloader. You make no sense with your comment about a locked bootloader. My MyTouch came locked but look at how fast that was bypassed.
BTW: HTC has already stated publicly that an OTA update will unlock it in the near future.
Im with the others, not worth an upgrade. just wait until the quads come out
I love the MT4G. I still have my Nexus One but with 768MB RAM, I can find NO reason to upgrade at this point. And to compound that decision, all the recent reviews have said that the screen is lackluster at best. Sure the higher resolution is nice but if you don't couple that with a great screen it does NO good at all.
And that great device (Sensation) still comes with the same RAM as the MT4G. Sorry, but at a time when tech prices are what they are, packing 1GB+ into a smartphone should be the baseline standard. If I upgraded to anything right now it would be the SGS2 but I intend to wait for quad cores to pop up. My desktop and laptop both have quad cores so my phone should too.
The MT4G with CM7 runs fantastic.
I have a g2x right now, my wife has a mytouch4g. The g2x is quicker, and has more potential. I can say though, it isn't significantly quicker for having a dual core processor and vanilla android, and it definitely does have more software issues.
I (just like others) thought the issues complained about were exaggerated and I was lucky enough to get a g2x without issues. The screen bleeding isn't horrible, but I have had the random reboots (usually daily). Battery life is poor at best, there isn't any lagging but it does stumble and freeze for a second occasionally. Great at multitasking and gaming though.
My wife is pretty picky about her phones and complains if there are any issues... I haven't heard her complain about the mytouch except low earpiece volume.
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Well, both my Cyanogen and MIUI ROMS on my MT4G run better than the G2X. Not my opinion. That is fact. I have a G2X here as well and it doesn't run anywhere as good as my MT4G with either ROM.
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Well, both my Cyanogen and MIUI ROMS on my MT4G run better than the G2X. Not my opinion. That is fact. I have a G2X here as well and it doesn't run anywhere as good as my MT4G with either ROM.
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Would you happen to know why CM7 runs so poorly on the G2x?
And I agree. CM7 on a MT4G makes it feel like it was never meant to be a Sense phone. So smooth....
I'll be getting a Sensation later today but I'm wondering, does it feel like a dual-core phone? Does it feel fast in applications, web browsing, and day to day usage? Some reviewers say it doesn't which is kind of sad considering all the horsepower this thing has.
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I'll be getting a Sensation later today but I'm wondering, does it feel like a dual-core phone? Does it feel fast in applications, web browsing, and day to day usage? Some reviewers say it doesn't which is kind of sad considering all the horsepower this thing has.
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yh it does feel faster than previous HTC phones,
i couldnt watch demand 5 even on my overclocked desire hd.
but i can on my sensation
BUT WAIT TILL BOOTLOADER IS UNLOCKED. WHIcH SHOULD BE SOON.
THIS PHONE WILL BE A FERRARI lol.
My opinion
Arcadia310 said:
I'll be getting a Sensation later today but I'm wondering, does it feel like a dual-core phone? Does it feel fast in applications, web browsing, and day to day usage? Some reviewers say it doesn't which is kind of sad considering all the horsepower this thing has.
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SGS II may feel faster due to hardware acceleration (Edit: for web browsing) and its simple and stock-looking environment (not too many nice animations on touchwiz 4).
Sense 3 is a pretty heavy environment, with rich graphics and animations. Still, all animations are ultra-smooth and environment or web browsing is pretty fast to me, (comparing it with my previous single core galaxy s.)
Still, SGS II may feel faster, but the 4.3" qHD screen and Sense 3 are some big advantages of sensation that made me go for it. anyway, extremely happy with my purchase.
Edit: did i mention the look and feel of the device? I love it
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Does it feel faster than my Nexus One? Yes.
Does it feel twice as fast as my Nexus One? Not even close.
I can't wait to see how this baby runs on without the heavy Sense UI.
Hey arcadia. Once you start using it you will notice how fast it is. And for it to be running resource hog sense then yes it does . Just install a stock android launcher. Then you will see what I'm taking about.
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I've only had this phone for one day, I think this is the fasted android device I've ever used. The UI is butter smooth despite the Sense overlay and with only 170 mb of free ram.
I'm still shocked that it takes less than 10 seconds to power on!
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I've only had this phone for one day, I think this is the fasted android device I've ever used. The UI is butter smooth despite the Sense overlay and with only 170 mb of free ram.
I'm still shocked that it takes less than 10 seconds to power on!
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Only 170mb of free RAM? How is that possible? Do you have a lot of stuff running in the back ground? That kind of scares me because I might be giving my G2X to my wife and getting this phone but the G2X has less RAM than the Sensation but my G2X has 242mb of free RAM.
I think that is because the g2x doesn't have sense 3.0. Once you switch to another launcher and/or once we get a root and start getting custom ROMs, I think we'll see increase RAM available for the users.
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SGS II may feel faster due to hardware acceleration
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i thought hardware acceleration is already implemented in Gingerbread...??
Yes
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Only 170mb of free RAM? How is that possible? Do you have a lot of stuff running in the back ground? That kind of scares me because I might be giving my G2X to my wife and getting this phone but the G2X has less RAM than the Sensation but my G2X has 242mb of free RAM.
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I think he is confused mine says I have USED 174MB of Ram no way he can only have that much remaining LOL
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I think he is confused mine says I have USED 174MB of Ram no way he can only have that much remaining LOL
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Thank god!
alireza_simkesh said:
i thought hardware acceleration is already implemented in Gingerbread...??
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Nope, Gingerbread does not but Honeycomb does and Ice Cream Sandwich will. Also he is wrong. The SGSII is not hardware accelerated. Only the browser on it is which makes it pretty quick. The UI isn't accelerated though.
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Only 170mb of free RAM? How is that possible? Do you have a lot of stuff running in the back ground? That kind of scares me because I might be giving my G2X to my wife and getting this phone but the G2X has less RAM than the Sensation but my G2X has 242mb of free RAM.
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Will the task manager show 150 to 170 mb of ram free out of 558 mb when the phone is powered on. I don't have many widgets running on different screens. I think this is because the phone is shipped with 768mb of ram instead of 1Gb, and Sense is very ram intensive.
BUT, so far I’ve not ran into any slowdowns due to lack of ram, I’ve pushed the phone quite heavily since I got it. I was downloading video podcasts, market apps, browsing multiple websites and listing to music at the same time. I didn’t notice any slowdown or lag when switching between apps.
This phone is about 1/3 faster than an overclocked Galaxy tab running custom Gingerbread ROM, and much smoother than a stock Honeycomb on 3.01.
I played with the SGII, but I prefer the form factor of the Sensation, the curved back make the phone much easier to handle.
P.S. Attached a photo to show the amount of available ram after a fresh reboot. I'm not complaining as I've not encountered a low ram situation. I've set the phone to notify me if the free ram drops to less the 40 mb, so far no warning yet.
Never mind, the phone shows 315mb free and 180 mb used in running services under applications setting. Sorry for the confusion, don't trust what the task manager is reporting.
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I think this is because the phone is shipped with 768mb of ram instead of 1Gb
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seriously? are there 2 diff. versions of sensation with diff RAMs? or are u referring to boatwares of vodafone and whatnot?
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Nope, Gingerbread does not but Honeycomb does and Ice Cream Sandwich will. Also he is wrong.
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so the Adruno GPU is totally useless then?
how about dual-core optimization for programs?
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seriously? are there 2 diff. versions of sensation with diff RAMs? or are u referring to boatwares of vodafone and whatnot?
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You are thinking of internal storage. All variants of the Sensation have 1 GB of internal memory and 768 MB of RAM.
To the people complaining that they only have 150 MB of available RAM = That is how Android works. It loads as much as deemed necessary into RAM to speed up launching of applications. If you consider this approach, more RAM available = less applications ready to go = slower phone.
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You are thinking of internal storage. All variants of the Sensation have 1 GB of internal memory and 768 MB of RAM.
To the people complaining that they only have 150 MB of available RAM = That is how Android works. It loads as much as deemed necessary into RAM to speed up launching of applications. If you consider this approach, more RAM available = less applications ready to go = slower phone.
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Completely agree, free ram is wasted ram.
P.S. I made a mistake, my phone have 300 mb of available ram when switched on, please see my above post.
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Completely agree, free ram is wasted ram.
P.S. I made a mistake, my phone have 300 mb of available ram when switched on, please see my above post.
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LOL it's ok I was just wondering what you could possibly be running that would use over 500mb of ram LOL
Not only does it feel far faster than an overclocked Desire but the battery life seems pretty good too.
Hey there
So I recently got and i9300 and am loving it so far - except it sucks at multitasking big time. when I open around 3 or 4 apps, switching between them will inevitably make them reload.
It's not possible to open the browser, a game, whatsapp and then reading your emails without the browser complety reloading the page you have been viewing or the game starting from scratch when switching to either one from the recent apps list.
This blows and is super annoying because when I play a game, then pause it to text someone, go look up a site in the browser and maybe watch a youtube video, the game is closed in the background so that when I switch back to it, it completly restarts the whole thing (losing all my unsaved progress). Mind you this is only 4 apps. Same thing happens if the app is suspended for more than 15min or so, it just gets closed. Oh even nicer, it also happens when I play a game and get a call. After finishing the call and returning to the game, it's restarting -_-
Seeing how the free ram is always around 100-200mb, I assume the situtation should be dramatically better on the 2GB version. People keep saying 1GB is plenty enough but it simply isn't if you do more than texting and listening to music on your device. Even google acknowledged this by bumping the Ram up to 2GB on the Nexus 4 (which is supposed to be the reference for future androidphones btw)
What are your experiences with the 2GB model? What is the limit of things you can do before stuff gets closed?
With my 2 Gb model I normally have over 1 Gb of free memory and I do a lot of multitasking. I'm usually using 700-900 megs out of the 2 gigs. I've never had things be auto closed on me.
Sorry to hear that about your phone =/
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With my 2 Gb model I normally have over 1 Gb of free memory and I do a lot of multitasking. I'm usually using 700-900 megs out of the 2 gigs. I've never had things be auto closed on me.
Sorry to hear that about your phone =/
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Agreed. My g/f has the Razr M and it's essentially what the OP has yet a smaller screen, obviously. The difference in ram is very noticeable in my opinion. Home screen scrolling produces slight lag on her M on the Jellybean update from Moto. It's interesting to note that Moto's newest Jellybean OTA is almost AOSP'ish and only 254mb in size. ICS and Jellybean Touchwiz is 600+ mb in size and pushing a much larger screen. My S3 experiences no lag and no multi-tasking problems which I can't help but chalk up to the 2gb of RAM vs the 1gb on the M and i9300 S3.
Just what I thought. It doesn't take a genius to figure 1gb ram is a bottleneck when it is always almost completly filled.
I still don't get the vast majority of people out there preaching how 1gb ram is more than enough for andorid when it simply isn't. Be lucky with our S3'guys, I'd take the additional gigabyte of ram over a quadcore cpu any day.
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I'd take the additional gigabyte of ram over a quadcore cpu any day.
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This is what i said before the device was even relased and got bashed...on aosp 1gb might be ok, but touchwiz needs 2gb bare minimum.
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This is what i said before the device was even relased and got bashed...on aosp 1gb might be ok, but touchwiz needs 2gb bare minimum.
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I know the feeling, buddy.
I've always found RAM to be the largest bottleneck on my previous Android devices. Having said that, have you thoroughly investigated to make sure RAM is your issue?
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Vipeout, you bought the wrong phone bro.
The i9305 has 2GB, LTE, Exynos, and global GSM.
The i535 has 2GB, LTE, Snapdragon, global GSM, and global CDMA.
Cappurnikus said:
I've always found RAM to be the largest bottleneck on my previous Android devices. Having said that, have you thoroughly investigated to make sure RAM is your issue?
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Yeah, the RAM is totally crippling the phone. It's not an issue when u run a single app, it has enough to run any app/game.
But as soon as you leave the app and start something else, the first app will be closed by the time you switch back to it.
Happens all the time with "Bad piggies" for me. I play, go out to look something up on the web, maybe look up a walkthrough vid on youtube, and upon switching back to the game I am greeted with the startup screen. Sucks so much I really want to throw the phone out the window.
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Vipeout, you bought the wrong phone bro.
The i9305 has 2GB, LTE, Exynos, and global GSM.
The i535 has 2GB, LTE, Snapdragon, global GSM, and global CDMA.
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Neither of those is available from my provider. Actually, the i9305 currently is being sold by only one shop and without contact.
Only thing I could do is sell my i9300 and get the 2gb variant without contract. This is a bad move though since the next galaxy probably will be released in half a year. Still, this multitasking issues are becoming unbearable. My old iphone 3gs could simply suspend any app and resume when going back to it, no matter how many other apps were open. Oh the irony...
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Yeah, the RAM is totally crippling the phone. It's not an issue when u run a single app, it has enough to run any app/game.
But as soon as you leave the app and start something else, the first app will be closed by the time you switch back to it.
Happens all the time with "Bad piggies" for me. I play, go out to look something up on the web, maybe look up a walkthrough vid on youtube, and upon switching back to the game I am greeted with the startup screen. Sucks so much I really want to throw the phone out the window.
Neither of those is available from my provider. Actually, the i9305 currently is being sold by only one shop and without contact.
Only thing I could do is sell my i9300 and get the 2gb variant without contract. This is a bad move though since the next galaxy probably will be released in half a year. Still, this multitasking issues are becoming unbearable. My old iphone 3gs could simply suspend any app and resume when going back to it, no matter how many other apps were open. Oh the irony...
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I'm seriously over the rediculous limitations of 1GB of RAM.
Basically if I open chrome on my S3 and switch between two tabs.. everything else gets memory managed, including touchwiz so even pressing the home button takes several seconds for the live wallpaper, then icons, then widgets to load up again. Forget having any other apps remain in memory, that just doesn't happen.
Whoever put 1GB of RAM in this phone should be slapped (repeatedly). It doesn't work properly. This is supposed to be a flagship phone. I would have paid a little extra to actually have a phone that can switch between applications without things getting closed all the time. I waited for and bought the more expensive 32GB version so that I would not have to worry about filling internal memory. Ironic that I'm still frustrated by limited memory, but in a different way. It's little wonder countries with later releases of the original S3 got 2GB (eg Japan).
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it would be nice to have both a quad-core and 2GB of ram but looking at it now im glad it has the extra GB where as the quad-core is barely any different then the S4 in terms of performance
Benchmarks thoroughly disagree with that statement.
Mali 400 GPU (Exynos) > Adreno 225 GPU (S4)
90 FPS in glbench vs 60 FPS isn't even a contest
Is it normal that mine says 1.56 in the task manager under Ram?
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LLStarks said:
Benchmarks thoroughly disagree with that statement.
Mali 400 GPU (Exynos) > Adreno 225 GPU (S4)
90 FPS in glbench vs 60 FPS isn't even a contest
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Benchmarks dont mean dog dookie...i doubt there is a noticeable difference for the average user. Yes all the gaming buffs will appreciate the quad core but other than that ram is much more important.
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jdub251 said:
Is it normal that mine says 1.56 in the task manager under Ram?
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Yes roughly 400mb is dedicated to the rom.
Thanks a lot. Since I've gotten S3 I've done do much to it that I thought I might of screwed it up. Lol
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Joey22688 said:
it would be nice to have both a quad-core and 2GB of ram but looking at it now im glad it has the extra GB where as the quad-core is barely any different then the S4 in terms of performance
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The i9305 has both.
2g of ram is the new standard, and the reason I wanted to upgrade to this phone.
My next phone will have more than 2g of ram, and I'm sure the gs3 will be more than capable of anything I do until that time comes.
Here's a screen capture of my ram atm
Sent from my Vigorously Bleached Marble White Galaxy S3.
Have you tried clean rom or other smaller roms with around 200-300 mb . I've noticed most tw roms are around 600-700mb which would basically use up more than half of the 1gb phones.
Loving my 2gb phone
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Multi tasking on the US version could not be smoother. Much better than my previous galaxy nexus
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