You guys who complain constantly that the Thunderbolt isn't running a dual core processor need to just stop and realize that software follows hardware development by months and years. That means that even if the TB HAD a dual core processor, not only would Gingerbread not be able to fully utilize it, but none of the software available in the market would know what to do with dual cores either.
When dual cores came out for PC systems, Windows XP wasn't even capable of using more than one core. They had to put out a new OS, Vista - which sucks - and then service patch the hell out of XP for it to take advantage of the dual core systems. Hell, Windows didn't even natively support Hyperthreading when Intel first announced it, it also took a huge patch to be recognized and dealt with by the XP Operating System.
All you guys complaining about not having dual cores in HTC phones should be THANKING HTC for giving us the most stable and best hardware on the market... No, they aren't "bleeding edge" like Samsung, but lets be honest here... How many Android users do you know who own any number of HTC phones, and how many do you know who are either not happy with, or returned their Samsung phones? I love the Droid 1, and don't get me wrong, the Droid Bionic looks like one badass phone, but I'll stick with HTC and stability any day over bleeding edge features that might not work for months because of the software not being able to keep up with the hardware changes.
Again, Gingerbread does NOT have the capability to take full advantage of dual core processors yet, so stop worrying about it, and just be happy with the fact that they are still producing phones for us that work, that people are pleased with, and don't get returned because of a ****ty UI or sluggish response compared to another phone. I dunno about you guys, but I'm getting a Thunderbolt on release day, and in three months, I'll upgrade another line to the next HTC release, and three months after that, and so on until I've replaced all 5 of my lines with brand spankin new HTC phones. Screw the lockdown on Moto phones - and even if the Bionic isn't locked down, it will still have Motoblur (read: failsauce) - and the crappy UI and toyish feel of Samsung phones... HTC is always on the forefront of Android development... and for everything they've given us in the Eris, the Incredible, and now the Thunderbolt, we should be a bit more appreciative.
Feel free to complain about the battery life, cuz yeah... it sucks.
What incentive do you have for upgrading if you already contain one of the countless other android phones that were released in the last year with
A 1ghz processor
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Including the DINC
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Better processor, better gpu, more ram, LTE.
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Better processor, better gpu, more ram, LTE.
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Theres other phones with the same cpu and gpu releaaed in the past year, the DHD for example.
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Well yeah, but the DHD isn't available to Verizon users. The comparable for most of us is the Incredible and the Thunderbolt IS an upgrade, despite misconceptions about its processor.
The thunderbolt is an upgrade if:
A) you have a DInc but you're in one of 38 lte marketplaces
B) you have an eris
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The thunderbolt is an upgrade if:
A) you have a DInc but you're in one of 38 lte marketplaces
B) you have an eris
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and C) you're wife just dropped her D1 and broke the screen, and now you have to give her your Droid Incredible. heh.
I can pretty much guarantee an upgrade yearly thanks to her butterfingers...
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A lot of us are in those markets.
Hoping to ditch my Eris as soon as this comes out. Hopefully they'll offer an early upgrade option since my contract doesn't expire until May. Still, that wouldn't be too long to wait. Here's hoping I don't get screwed with extra 4G prices since I won't be in any of those 2011 markets, and I only want a 1-year contract for this puppy.
Since the LTE functionality has it's own SIM, it could be removed if the user didn't want LTE and then VZW wouldn't need to charge extra for 4G. Of course, all of this would depend on VZW not being greedy and not following the Sprint's example... which is pretty unlikely, I guess.
LTE is the reason for change. As for XP... It handles multiple cores just fine, op.
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LTE is the reason for change. As for XP... It handles multiple cores just fine, op.
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it handles multi cores fine now..
Not when it came out which is entirely his point.
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it handles multi cores fine now..
Not when it came out which is entirely his point.
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This, exactly.
I'm still rocking my G1 that I got almost two years ago with T-Mo. Contract is up mid-Feb. I can't WAIT to hop on VZW with the Thunderbolt.
Well, I am rockin the Eris still, can upgrade in March, and I'm stuck between ThunderBolt, LG Revolution, and Samsung's no-name. I'm just disappointed because the ThunderBolt is essentially an Evo. So in the like 9 months since that was released, has HTC not made any advances? That's what's most upsetting to me, you know?
Totally. I have noticed every phone worth caring about for the last 6 months at least have had 4.3" screens. The last 4 or so HTC phones have been basically the same hardware. I understand the draw of the huge screen but I'm 5'2" so... HTC please give me thunderbolt specs in Eris / Nexus size >.<
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I'm just disappointed because the ThunderBolt is essentially an Evo. So in the like 9 months since that was released, has HTC not made any advances? That's what's most upsetting to me, you know?
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That would be upsetting if it were true. Luckily it's not.
Not all processors are created equal. The 1ghz processor is not the same 1ghz processor as the incredible (google pipelining). I think the incredible has a version 1 snapdragon and the thunderbolt is a version 3.
As far as I'm concerned, I'd rather have sense with a single core than blur with a million cores!
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I love you OP.
To the person that said they were waiting on the Samsung with no name. A little advice, save yourself because that phone will start off an entire OS version behind. And it won't even be samsungs flagship device as far as we know ATM. so it will likely never even get gingerbread. And even if it is a flagship device from them, look at the entire US galaxy s line. All five of them are "flagship" type devices. Question. Do they even have froyo. Answer. NO! I wasted almost $600 on that POS fascinate. That is actually a nice phone just doesn't have froyo. So don't waste any more time with Samsung. I think we, as paying customers needto make sure they pay a price for their disloyalty(word?).
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I have an eris. Every once in awhile I go on craigslist and search for stuff for sale. Found a like new Droid X with case for $200. They go for 300+ on ebay. Dude wants an iPhone I'll be picking it up on the 31st....already got the MEID from him and checked it with verizon.
I'm gonna use that for a few months and see what develops in LTE. I've seen rumors that Moto has been modifying Blur to make it less intrusive, more like vanilla. Should be able to get 200-250 for the DX ina few months.
I like the RAM increase in the Thunderbolt (can also OC) vs the Bionic. And, though still speculative since they aren't out, the TB should be easier to root and install custom roms.
Is the atrix the only upcoming phone with 1GB of ram? I can't find anything on the revolution.
The samsung is weird looking.
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This is the big question for me. On the one hand I love HTC devices and the screen size (i am a long time HD2 user until I flashed it to death ). On the other hand, it seems like its a rehash of 1 year old technology, with that terrible battery and camera (im using a Captivate and the quality diffefence compared to any HTC device I have used is massive), and the Atrix looks incredible on paper (battery, dual core, peripherals, screen resolution etc). Trouble is, whenever I get a non HTC device, I spend days tryimg to get it to have the look and feel of an HTC device!
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Im the same way. I have a captivated know and will be getting an Inspire. Im really not a fan of Motorola phones. I want either the Inspire or the Infuse. Leaning toward the Inspire in big way tho.
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Yea, I'm going with HTC, they just seem better built and like you said, with my other Android phones I try to make my non HTC to look like htc, lol!
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I love HTC devices too. Even with the older tech and a little bit less in the way of specs, I'd choose the Inspire any day. I'm not a fan of Motorola phones regardless which carrier they've been on. I just haven't had a good one dating all the way back past the razr and up to the first droid. Next, because of the bootloader stuff they did with the Droid X, I imagine they'll try to lock the Atrix down even if they say they're going to work with devs. I love my Aria, no problems at all and it's been a great phone. I kinda see the inspire as a big brother to the Aria which is why I'm going for it as soon as I can.
The Inspire does have its shortcoming but I like AT&T and I like HTC. I'm willing to sacrifice on a few features (battery, CPU, front camera) in order to get what I think is better quality and user experience of an HTC phone. I'm currently still on a Tilt 2 and I will be able to upgrade in May. If at MWC this month nothing better that would hit AT&T this year from HTC is shown then I'll just go with the Inspire.
I'm thinking since the Inspire is being introduced at a lower price than the Atrix then perhaps a purchase at full price for the Inspire with no contract might be worth it in order to save the upgrade credit for something later that might come out toward the end of the year.
I had both in my hand this week, including the Atrix laptop dock. Very nice.
But I think the Inspire seemed more...quality. New Sense interface, great camera controls and efx, 8mp camera with VERY bright dual LED flash. And half the price.
Atrix + Laptop bundle will be $500 on contract. Atrix alone $199
Inspire is $99 on contract.
I'm leaning Inspire
I've had the HTC Inspire 4G in my hands for three days now (be sure to check out some of the videos and blogs posts I've written up already http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=940312) and I can say that you will not be disappointed with the Inspire. The unibody aluminum case makes the phone feel solid. I played around with the Atrix at CES last month and was not particularly impressed with the handset's external hardware. Also, the higher resolution screen looked a bit off with the home screen UI and many applications.
I don't know why people keep referring to the Inspire and Thunderbolt as being phones with rehashed technology from last year. Yes, the second generation Snapdragon processor did come out last year, but the first phones to use them only started showing up in late fall. If that's your standard for calling something old, the first devices powered by the NVIDIA Tegra 2 surfaced right around the same time.
The processor in this phone performs nearly 50% better than the 1GHz processor found in the EVO and Nexus One (first generation Snapdragon processors).
The Inspire is a well rounded handset with a good camera, decent batter life, and solid benchmark numbers. No, it will not outperform the Atrix or any other phone with a Tegra 2 processor, but at least you can trust the HTC quality and know that it'll probably get an official Android update somewhere down the road.
I originally wanted the Inspire, then once I saw the specs--I thought about the Atrix as my next phone. But now, I think I'll want the Inspire again.
Honestly, I really like the phone. Specs-wise, next the the Atrix, well--old tech.
Next to the Captivate I have now--more of the same. But I'd pick the Inspire over my Captivate any day of the week.
I'm just waiting until it comes out so I can ring warranty and have them send me one to fiddle around with.
Cyanogen. Enough said. HTC inspire is quality work. Yes not the best internal spec. Atrix looks impressive on paper. But for those of us who live on xda atrix will not do it for us. Inspire has many devs already working on roms themes and kernels. Ands its hspa+ it will be a upgrade from my N1.
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ill be comming to android officialy from the Tilt 2 to inspire. i was wowed by the atrix but after thinking about what my boss has gone through with his droid and what i have seen i think the inspire will be the way to go!
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Im the same way. I have a captivated know and will be getting an Inspire. Im really not a fan of Motorola phones. I want either the Inspire or the Infuse. Leaning toward the Inspire in big way tho.
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I think flash happy people with Captivates should and will lean to the Inspire. Seeing as how hard it has been for the Dev community to cook something up rather than spliced together samsung roms. HTC devices just seem so much easier to dev. I am afraid that if I go to Motorola I will have the same issues. I don't know if it is just more Devs on HTC devices or that they are just that much easier to crack. Seems like the other devices are just harder to get anything good on them.
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I think flash happy people with Captivates should and will lean to the Inspire. Seeing as how hard it has been for the Dev community to cook something up rather than spliced together samsung roms. HTC devices just seem so much easier to dev. I am afraid that if I go to Motorola I will have the same issues. I don't know if it is just more Devs on HTC devices or that they are just that much easier to crack. Seems like the other devices are just harder to get anything good on them.
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I can attest to this. I have had the captivate since a couple weeks after launch and have been yearning for some cyanogenmod love as well as any ui other than touchwiz. It seems like the devs for the captivate have a really hard time doing anything besides splicing cappy leaks together and while I have run some ready quick and efficient roms, I am always checking the htc forums with envy. I am going to get the infuse pending a better htc device coming out at MWD.
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The Inspire is definitely the headsup winner.
Honestly who is really going to use that FrontFacingCamera anyways if it even had it other than make some real time video pron, hahaha
The only question Im asking myself is if there are any 1400mAh or 1500mAh aftermarket batteries that I can swap out after buying it.
1230 mAh is low in comparison to other phones with similar specs
Inspire 4G FTW!
Inspire all the way Atrix is full of hype and no promise. Locked boot, dual cores wont be utilized fully and motoblur is crap
I'm debating between the two as well.
I think what is keeping me from choosing is:
A) continued support from HTC and AT&T, as well as dev support if I wanted it (most likely would, I jailbroke my iphone about two months after I got it)
B) a huge part of the Atrix IS it's docks. I was never interested in them in the first place, just it's specs. So I'd almost be buying half a product
C) build quality! My plastic iphone 3G is literally about to split in half, right where the white plastic and bezel meet. I'm tired of plastic phones.
the Atrix is looking like this: higher res, biometric lock, dual core, RAM, battery
Inspire: Build quality, support, camera (debatable, but still more Megs)
it's not old tech, take a look at the comparisons of the Inspire and the Evo 4G, it's clearly a new device in a similar casing
http://mobile.downloadatoz.com/comparision,htc-inspire-4g-vs-htc-evo-4g-black-sprint.html
I for one look forward to getting mine on (next) Monday. I love my captivate, but I love HTC more.
I have also been wondering if I should leave the captivate and jump to the Atrix or Inspire. I am always one for the latest and greatest so I was leaning towards the Atrix or holding out for another 2 core phone. After reading a lot and browsing these pages I just about want to go for the inspire. Man do I hate decisions!!
After having a Nexus One I'm sold on HTC hardware. I'm going to get the Inspire and love it...at least until HTC releases something better.
However, since I think it will be months before HTC releases another compelling phone on AT&T, I'll be alright with that. The minute you buy technology it's already outdated, and either you can get used to that idea or you can spend exorbitant amounts of money trying to keep up.
I'll get the Inspire for $99 and use the money I save on it (plus the money I get from flipping my Nexus One) to get a tablet this spring. Can't wait for the first HTC Honeycomb tablet!
If Sony Ericsson is saying the Arc is their top tier phone well then the Inspire 4G is really not all that outdated and irrelevant.
Sure its not a dual-core behemoth but from what the early reviewers have said is with the specs it will have when its released, the smartphone is fast and responsive.
Check out my other thread on the similarties to the Arc and other Snapdragon phones and will see that with overclocking, bootloader and rom support this can potentially turn into a dual core beast performace wise.
What can you buy nowadays for $99 anyways, not even a burnt out everyday iPhone or extremely outdated Blackberry.
At least with the Inspire you know right away that potentially all the hard work and Devlopment from the Desire HD thread can be carried over to us.
The Inspire 4G will stay active for a good while in my opinion, I can atest to HTC quality since I still own the phone that started it all the HTC Dream / G1.
This phone has been dropped on concrete, slammed againt walls, thrown around like a bad habit and is still going strong and even have a fast/ stable version of Froyo 2.2.1 with apps2sd enabled and running with zero issues. This phone was only offically updated til 1.6 Donut from HTC and T-Mobile yet the incredible xda community has kept it going and left all who own it satisfied.
That to me is a prime example of what HTC quality, xda support and those out there with the potential to make a good phone great in the Months and Years ahead.
Check out the Samsung and Sony forums those guys are truly regretting their purchases from barely a few months ago while I'm still content from a phone from 2008.
Proof positive that this purchase will be a smart one from whomever takes a chance on it when its released to the public.
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Is anyone gonna complain about your phone to get this one for and early upgrade
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I tried it and they said it is actually up to the manufacturer if they want to switch you to another phone, funny story though the guy was like you rate an upgrade anyway.
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Good luck with that. Verizon can be pretty stiff. They usually wont consider swapping to a new phone unless you have like 3 problems or so with it and have to have at least 3 exchanges with a certain period of time.
Threaten to change carriers , worked for me a couple of years ago.
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Threaten to change carriers , worked for me a couple of years ago.
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Thats hit or miss, they might just call your bluff.
best bet for OP is to pay full price for phone.
Then sell the fascinate for a few hundred and maybe pay a little more then new contract price.
You have to do with a store mgr. or a district mgr. , not a csr.
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Yeah...going with TNS207's suggestion....
But the Tbolt at full price and sell your Fascinate.
I'm due an upgrade but with so many devices coming down the pike I have convinced myself to pay the full price to avoid signing the 2 year contract. I've already got my DInc and all its accessories sold for $300.
It's the best move for me.
Hey , I understand . I'm a sales rep and don't have much trouble talking managers into seeing my way.
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I have two lines so I have an open upgrade but I am moving away from the fascinate the second this guy is on the street. I am currently working in a small town though, but I will be at verizon at 7am on the 24th to get one, hopefully being a small town and all they will have it in stock on launch day.
Besides the 4g and the camera....the fascinate has better hardware. Better CPU and GPU.
Nothing a Thunderolt can do that a fascinate cant?
Thats how android is built right now. Hardware specs mean nothing till apps can take advantage of it. Stick with your fascinate or get an iphone to see a true difference.
If not wait it out till some real good applications come out. Dont fall for the hype of the dual core processor either. Whats the point look at the games the iphone runs, amazing...nd its the same same cpu and a step below in gpu vs your fascinate. But those apps arent available for you fascinate so it makes it a moot point.
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Besides the 4g and the camera....the fascinate has better hardware. Better CPU and GPU.
Nothing a Thunderolt can do that a fascinate cant?
Thats how android is built right now. Hardware specs mean nothing till apps can take advantage of it. Stick with your fascinate or get an iphone to see a true difference.
If not wait it out till some real good applications come out. Dont fall for the hype of the dual core processor either. Whats the point look at the games the iphone runs, amazing...nd its the same same cpu and a step below in gpu vs your fascinate. But those apps arent available for you fascinate so it makes it a moot point.
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The Samsung Galaxy S are horrible. They are all laggy and slow. My bro and friend have them, one has vibrant and other has fascinate and both are slow as hell.
Wirefly did a youtube quadrant test on the TB and it scored a 1950.
Pretty darn fast.
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yeah, the bionic is only getting 2600 stock, but its locked so it will stay at that speed. We could see 3000+ with the TB after mods
Refer to my chart, the new TB has a better CPU and GPU
http://androidandme.com/2010/10/news/3dmarkmobile-gpu-showdown-adreno-205-vs-powervr-sgx540/
Galaxy s are laggy because of touchwiz!!!!
And the androidandme.com chart was accurate but the galaxy s was running 2.1 android!!! JIT doesnt play well with the hummingbird processor
Also for some reason android is built more with the snapdragon in mind!! Android cant take advantage of dualcore chips yeat either!!
The galaxy s line is laggy due to the filesystem it uses.
Fast or not, the TB will be a great phone just like the Evo and Inc before it, thats the bottom line for me, its not about milliseconds being faster or having crazy hardware that we cant harness. Out of the box the TB will be faster than a modified fascinate and HTC has better support for their phones meaning 2.3 and 2.4 updates, not to mentions the variety from xda.
And good HTC phones seem to have a lot more roms than the other brands.
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And good HTC phones seem to have a lot more roms than the other brands.
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Plus the phone is potentially already hacked as long as they don't change anything that would complicate the exploit(s) discovered..
Its too late in the game for HTC or VZW to change something, they came out with the exploit after the delay was issued, they would have to change 100,000 phones or more, it would take months.
Word on the street its that this phone is suppose to drop on 4/14/2011. Is Anyone getting this phone?
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With 4G, Super Amoled+, better camera, FFC, and hopefully better updates due to Droid branding, its still not worth an upgrade from most of the high end phones out there.
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Why do you say its not worth the upgrade? I'm only asking because I have one coming soon but I'm not sure where I want to go with it.
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With 4G, Super Amoled+, better camera, FFC, and hopefully better updates due to Droid branding, its still not worth an upgrade from most of the high end phones out there.
Why do you say its not worth the upgrade? I'm only asking because I have one soon and I'm wondering where to go with it. Any suggestions?
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With dual core and maybe quad core coming in fall, being stuck for two years with a phone that still poses the same speed as the Fascinate, a step towards dual core makes a little more sense.
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I am looking forward to seeing this new phone that sammy has to offer as well however i am not to sure quadcore is comming out this fall that probably is atleast a year down the road .
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With dual core and maybe quad core coming in fall, being stuck for two years with a phone that still poses the same speed as the Fascinate, a step towards dual core makes a little more sense.
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(1) One-year contracts aren't killed until the 17th.
(2) It's better than the Thunderbolt, and lets you lock into unlimited LTE.
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(1) One-year contracts aren't killed until the 17th.
(2) It's better than the Thunderbolt, and lets you lock into unlimited LTE.
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Well a whole lot depends on development...as much as j think the tbolt is meh it has a ton of people working on it and will almost certainly have official gingerbread by the summer
The charge is rfs and is unlikely to see gb in any reasonable amount of time...
I think the best comparison is the galaxy s 4g on tmo...even with all the galaxy s revs and on that carrier...that phone is a joke development wise....no virtually no roms kernels mods at all...and its been out for a little while now
If your happy with a pretty stock device that is barely an improvement over the fascinate.....then I guess the charge is alright
also it seems verizon killed 1 year contracts today already...check their website..no option for it
The only way I'd get a Droid Charge would be if my Fascinate broke. Otherwise, it's not enough of an upgrade to justify the cost. The only other reason I'd upgrade to it early is if they announced that unlimited 4g is ending. I feel that the Charge is closer to an upgrade from the Fascinate than the Thunderbolt, but neither are a significant jump.
Is it made by Samsung?
Oh..it is? Then nope, not getting it.
The unlimited 4g is my concern. I would have got the Tbolt if the camera and screen was any comparison at all. Honestly I do believe that once Big red drops the Gingerbread SG2 there will be a 2.3 upgrade for this phone (droid charge). But I could just be dreaming in la la land about that.
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The only way I'd get a Droid Charge would be if my Fascinate broke. Otherwise, it's not enough of an upgrade to justify the cost. The only other reason I'd upgrade to it early is if they announced that unlimited 4g is ending. I feel that the Charge is closer to an upgrade from the Fascinate than the Thunderbolt, but neither are a significant jump.
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well u could build kernels for yourself as i dont see anyone else getting it
I just received my upgrade for Verizon this month. I'm on a Droid 1 and love it, but I do have a few things that I would love to have better. I'm gonna check out the Charge once it releases (hopefully Thursday the 14th) and see how it runs. Can't decide if I want to wait for the Bionic or not though. The 768 MB of RAM in the T'bolt is tempting too. I just know ill be hitting a 1 year agreement instead of 2. This stuff moves too fast to wait 2 years.
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I just received my upgrade for Verizon this month. I'm on a Droid 1 and love it, but I do have a few things that I would love to have better. I'm gonna check out the Charge once it releases (hopefully Thursday the 14th) and see how it runs. Can't decide if I want to wait for the Bionic or not though. The 768 MB of RAM in the T'bolt is tempting too. I just know ill be hitting a 1 year agreement instead of 2. This stuff moves too fast to wait 2 years.
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I miss my Droid 1... gimme it... xD
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I just received my upgrade for Verizon this month. I'm on a Droid 1 and love it, but I do have a few things that I would love to have better. I'm gonna check out the Charge once it releases (hopefully Thursday the 14th) and see how it runs. Can't decide if I want to wait for the Bionic or not though. The 768 MB of RAM in the T'bolt is tempting too. I just know ill be hitting a 1 year agreement instead of 2. This stuff moves too fast to wait 2 years.
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actually you wont be getting a 1 year upgrade cuz verizon killed those yesterday
and if your on xda..im assuming you care about development (roms/kernels/themes/mods)...well the bionic will be as locked down as the atrix (read boring)...and the droid charge unless its ridiculously close to the fascinate and jt and company decide to throw it a bone will have no development (look at the galaxy s 4g subforums for an idea)...if you *need* to get one of the 3 mentioned phones then the tbolt is the only legit option for development...personally id wait on better
From what I read, the 1 year contracts will end on the 17th so maybe if I like the Thunderbolt or the Charge ill grab it on the 1 year. And I do keep up with development on my Droid and a Coby Kyros tablet I have, both having different kernels and roms. I'll probably run whatever phone I get stock for awhile until a lot of testing and releasing gets done on each. And I get what you're saying with the Thunderbolt being the easier one (most likely) to be modded. I can't believe the Bionic us going to be locked down like that.
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actually you wont be getting a 1 year upgrade cuz verizon killed those yesterday
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Only via website.
Don't know why you're so initially invested in the Thunderbolt without owning one, but that's your business...
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I miss my Droid 1... gimme it... xD
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Ha My Droid has been put through the ringer. It's been dropped on concrete, rained on, and plenty else. Screens still solid and intact though. I love Motorola hardware. Been running at 1.1 GHz for a year straight now. The RAM sucks though which is why I'm so ready for an upgrade. The super AMOLED Plus would be nice to have too.
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Only via website.
Don't know why you're so initially invested in the Thunderbolt without owning one, but that's your business...
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personally i wouldnt get any of the upcoming phones...id hold out for a galaxy s2 if i stay on big red
but my point on the charge is...the galaxy s 4g is the closest case study to the potential development for the charge...and it has.......none
unless people buy jt and company charges...id imagine it would be the same scenario
the bolt (which ive made my stance of the bolt being antiquated already) at least will have working aosp in short order (they have 3g/4g working on cm7 as of last night)
the charge will be lucky to get clean roms and recovery
do you guys think it would be a good idea to get a nexus prime?
Yes
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yup, if it comes in AWS
So finally a phone you guys think is worth switching to?
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So finally a phone you guys think is worth switching to?
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Only if T-Mobile isn't cut out of the loop again and that curve on the screen isn't so insanely exaggerated as the teaser makes it appear to be.
JaiaV said:
Only if T-Mobile isn't cut out of the loop again
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Nexus 1 and the Nexus S launched with T-Mobile and AWS before anyone else, not sure how they got "cut out of the loop"
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Nexus 1 and the Nexus S launched with T-Mobile and AWS before anyone else, not sure how they got "cut out of the loop"
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The Nexus S 4G (which wasn't really different), so I did do a bit of keyboard-in-mouth, for a minute there I did forget the Nexus S came out on T-Mobile first. Tired.
I came from the Nexus One, bought the G2x off-contract, specically to be able to pick up the Nexus Prime at a discount.
I just hope the nexus prime won't disappoint. Rumors on specs are mixed. The qualcomm chips in the Tmo SG2 and Amaze are meh. Also 5mp camera is meh.... other specs say it'll have the Exynos chipset and 8mp cam. Some say Verizon will get it first others say T-Mobile. Verizon has the Droid Prime with similar specs already and aren't ones to keep it clean with Android.
Either way, if the specs are worthwhile over the G2x, I'll grab it.
Best solution for me personally would be Verizon with sweet specs as my old work blackberry needs upgraded and I set up our new exchange to work properly so my company is allowing Android sets now... meaning I can kill my $70 personal T-Mobile line, sell my G2x and profit.
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I honestly don't think it's that much of an upgrade of our G2x's. Our phone is still up to par with alot of the phones out there now.. Once we get ICS on this thing, we should be fine.
Will it work on at&t?
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Yeah. I think it'll get more development support and the devs won't have to worry about nvidia giving up the source codes.
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The Prime looks nice but I plan on holding onto my G2x until the phone hits at least the one year mark if not more to see what's coming next spring and summer. Quad core phones anyone?
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I know everyone wants the latest and greatest, but sometimes it's a bit overkill. Unless you have a good job with 500+ bucks to throw I don't see why we should be running to get the Prime when you already have a Tegra 2 Dual core device. Nothing can even tough this device yet.
It'd be hard for me to dump my dual core device for another dual core. At this point might as well wait for whatever the next gen quads come out next year. And once that happens, I don't even know what we'd do with a quad core lol.
Well... We'd buy more batteries, of course.
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Well... We'd buy more batteries, of course.
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Lol, I seriously think they should just take a break on the progression of processors, screens, GPU's, etc. and use that time and man power in advancing the technology of battery's... That's literally the only Achilles heel that even the best smartphone's have these days.
At this point, I'd rather have the creation of a 5,000 mAH battery with out changing it's size than a quad core processor.
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Lol, I seriously think they should just take a break on the progression of processors, screens, GPU's, etc. and use that time and man power in advancing the technology of battery's... That's literally the only Achilles heel that even the best smartphone's have these days.
At this point, I'd rather have the creation of a 5,000 mAH battery with out changing it's size than a quad core processor.
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Agreed ten fold. I'm waiting til the Nexus Double Prime before I plan to upgrade. This phone is doing just fine, and has a very nice set of developers working on it for us.
If they did make quad core phones, I bet the battery life would be at least 20% worse than now. When I'm not even getting super amazing battery life to begin with, it might be a problem.
FatalityBoyZahy said:
I honestly don't think it's that much of an upgrade of our G2x's. Our phone is still up to par with alot of the phones out there now.. Once we get ICS on this thing, we should be fine.
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Yeah, main difference between the two will be updates. Something the G2X will probably never officially see. After the half ass 2.3 update we got I'm pretty much over it.
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I really don't see the point of quad core phones; unless Google does something unbelievable with Jelly Bean that needs an insane amount of processing, nothing a smartphone does needs that much. Hell, dual core isn't even that necessary unless you run a lot of 3D stuff.
There is such a thing as overkill people. I'd like to see phone manufactorers declare the smartphone as it exists now finished and start working on some new innovations that would make better hardware necessary. 3D screen ala Nintendo 3DS with FFC capable of eye-tracking to orient the 3D so you see it at any angle?
While I agree that the G2x can hold its own, I do miss owning a nexus device. My friend still has his Nexus One and running official software we can only get via custom roms.
My reasoning to grabbing the Nexus Prime IF if launches on Verizon is so my work can pay for it. Unfortunately I heard Verizon is launching the Galaxy Prime.... which is similar but not the nexus prime backed by Google.
Well just have to wait until Tuesday. All the rumors running around its hard to make any reasonable decision.
If Verizon gets gimped on Google support then I'll keep my G2x for a long while.
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Agreed. My work is on sprint and I am waiting to see if it launches on sprint. If it does, I'll pick it up. If not, either sii or stay on g2x. It looks to me that the prime is going to launch on everyone but sprint.
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Ok, well...I have actually had a pretty darn good expierience with my g2x...I just don't keep phones for very long. I have an upgrade available on t-mobile and am wanting to hear from you guys what you think I should get.
My wife just got the Sensation 4g, and she loves it....I don't think I like it that much....especially with a stock rom on it.
Was thinking about the SG II, but not too sure what is coming out in the near future. I know SG II will be getting ICS (as will the sensation)...
Let me know what you think.
Galaxy nexus is the obvious answer for a phone that will be coming out, soonish. Just look it up and watch youtube videos that'll pretty much some it up for you.
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Just wait till the next big waves of phones come. Probably around Feb or so. Wait for the next generation S4 processors and Exynos.
None of the current phones which don't have ICS installed when you buy one. I also think you should wait until the next "crop" of phones which will have ICS and quad-core processors, more memory, better screens, etc. Also, check out the Android update history of the company, LG is horrible.
I agree with core. Wait till phones have ICS installed and new quad core processors. ICS is the software that will really make dual or quad cores shine due to its capability of multi-threading. Till then just make due. As far as i have seen android usually has a habit of making decent software upgrades every other official release its seems. Like we had donut then éclair but wasn't till froyo came out android was actually looking good. IMHO
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I think you should get the GS II HD LET though
What are you guys talking about the nexus is out and it has pics 4.0 I jut got one today it came out today
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I'd say wait for next Gen of phones also. You ask me there's nothing very impressive about this huge galaxy nexus they try to pass off as a phone. If it didn't come out with ics and the nexus name no one would even care. And since a multitude of phones will be upgraded to ics its really not the big deal its hyped up to be.
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Ditto on the bandwagon to wait for the next generation. After all the releases the g2x can hold its own. Don't really need a new phone until the following :
1. ICS ROM from CM9 team and manufacturer
2. Easy to root/ develop on
3. Multicore processing
I am very patient. Hell, I bought this g2x on impulse without knowing about xda forum. Never again I paid retail for my phone. Just works out waiting how xda develops a new phone. Better that way. I am very disappointed with amaze 4g and sgs2 from xda forum perspective.
I am a big fan of cm7 and prefer a phone that can run that over stock ROM.
Still, better of waiting. By then prices plunge and you can get great phone at a bargain.
Intel_x said:
What are you guys talking about the nexus is out and it has pics 4.0 I jut got one today it came out today
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Considering op is talking about an upgrade option being available with tmobile, I'm sure he is only looking at subsidized plans. The nexus is not subbed so it will cost him 700 up front. So if your talking about saving subsidized phone you might see much of an upgrade when switching to any of the high end phones being offered right now. You will get extra ram a better screen and better battery but performance will be about on par with your g2x. I would say wait. I don't believe there will be any quad core phones in the next six months but the longer you wait the better the chance your phone might get an official update to jellybean and its possible a quad might appear. It might be buggy cause it's first gen but it's something I guess
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Supposedly quad core could be out as early as April, might be worth the wait.
I hope there's another G2X'ish phone that is powerful as hell but loses value quick so I can pick it up late in the year for cheap. Watched this G2X of mine lose half its value in 8 months and don't want that to happen again
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Supposedly quad core could be out as early as April, might be worth the wait.
I hope there's another G2X'ish phone that is powerful as hell but loses value quick so I can pick it up late in the year for cheap. Watched this G2X of mine lose half its value in 8 months and don't want that to happen again
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Yeah but where is it going to be released to is the question. Samsung phones are usually released 6 months in advanced internationally. Most updated roms are released internationally before it hits these shores. I doubt we will get the first quad core.
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What are you guys talking about the nexus is out and it has pics 4.0 I jut got one today it came out today
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What? It is already out. Damn
OP, there is nothing out on T-mobile that's worth using an upgrade on right now. Your best bet is to just wait for the either the Galaxy Nexus to launch on TMobile or wait for the quad core phones (I would not recommend buying a tegra 3 powered phone either). But no need to waste an upgrade right now.
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I think you should get the GS II HD LET though
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What phone is this?
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mysterioustko said:
OP, there is nothing out on T-mobile that's worth using an upgrade on right now. Your best bet is to just wait for the either the Galaxy Nexus to launch on TMobile or wait for the quad core phones (I would not recommend buying a tegra 3 powered phone either). But no need to waste an upgrade right now.
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I think that this is some good advise...even though im bored with the g2x...
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OP, there is nothing out on T-mobile that's worth using an upgrade on right now. Your best bet is to just wait for the either the Galaxy Nexus to launch on TMobile or wait for the quad core phones (I would not recommend buying a tegra 3 powered phone either). But no need to waste an upgrade right now.
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I agree with mysterioustko, don't waste lots of money losing money on your G2X and buying something now because you're disatisfied with what you have. Wait until ICS is available for the G2X and evaluate the phone's desirability again. If you're still disatisfied, wait until the new crop of phones are selling with ICS and research the manufacturer's update history and never buy an NVIDIA (Tegra) chipped phone, get one which has chips that have totally open sourced technical information for drivers, etc., such as the Texas Instrument chips in the new Google Nexus phone. When the new crop of phones are first sold, wait a few months until the hype abates and real user and developer experiences/evaluations are available and read them thoroughly. As well, research what independent developers are supporting with alternative kernels and ROMs.
I upgraded to the gs2 from the g2x and couldn't be happier.
Very fast and snappy.... faster stock than my cm7 overclocked g2x was...it has a 1.5 processor stock...g2x was max overclocked at 1.5
Huge screen that is very easy to type on
It has already seen an update just a month after being out...we just got an update to 2.3.6 with free wifi calling that doesn't count against your minutes
Its the first phone to be activated to use dual core gps !!!! Best gps on ANY phone out. uses GPS *AND* GLONASS satellites to equal 51 satellites instead of 27
Dual Core GPS explained
once again the tmobile gs2 is the FIRST AND ONLY phone right now to have this feature activated. Its only possible for snapdragon s3 processor phones
It has full cm7 and cm9 support...slayher and cyanogen himself are using the tmo gs2
Faux and whitehawx ( if you are a g2x user then you know these people) are developing roms and kernels for the g2x
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clninja said:
I upgraded to the gs2 from the g2x and couldn't be happier.
Very fast and snappy.... faster stock than my cm7 overclocked g2x was...it has a 1.5 processor stock...g2x was max overclocked at 1.5
Huge screen that is very easy to type on
It has already seen an update just a month after being out...we just got an update to 2.3.6 with free wifi calling that doesn't count against your minutes
Its the first phone to be activated to use dual core gps !!!! Best gps on ANY phone out.
http://androidandme.com/2011/12/new...ables-dual-core-location-on-snapdragon-phones
once again the tmobile gs2 is the FIRST AND ONLY phone right now to have this feature activated. Its only possible for snapdragon s3 processor phones
It has full cm7 and cm9 support...slayher and cyanogen himself are using the tmo gs2
Faux and whitehawx ( if you are a g2x user then you know these people) are developing roms and kernels for the g2x
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Newer phones almost always have updated/upgraded features/capabilities but beware of phone fever which is what the first buyers of the G2X suffered from because that was the first dual-core phone on the market and we all know what happened to it.
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Supposedly quad core could be out as early as April, might be worth the wait.
I hope there's another G2X'ish phone that is powerful as hell but loses value quick so I can pick it up late in the year for cheap. Watched this G2X of mine lose half its value in 8 months and don't want that to happen again
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Amen brother I got my g2x in April now their pretty much free wait is my suggestions
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