I really love the DVP form factor and I am getting tired of my Samsung Vibrant. Should I wait for a Mango device before getting the DVP? When will we get to see some of the new Mango devices? Will they have front facing cameras? I heard about a windows phone 7 device similiar to the galaxy sII coming soon, is there any truth to that? Thanks for the help.
No by the looks of the new phones that were leaked. I don't think that they will have no front facing cameras. I think WP7 is more focused on there OS than building a phone that is mainly focused on Skype. They might have bought them out but the OS is the most important to them right now. They have to catch up because they started so late. I would say go ahead and get u a WP7 device because all users will be able to get mango. As far as mango goes, they will be updating that constantly because they want the new version to succeed and they will follow up of whatever version they have next. Personally I think that they will keep all of the users updated to the latest versions of the OS. Windows phone will prevail. Rock on Microsoft!!!!!!!!!
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We won't know the 1/2 of whats going to be released phone wise with Mango until we get a lot closer. I would almost guarantee at least one flagship from one of the OEM's will have a FFC. And they will probably (at least a good handful of them) be quite a bit more powerful than the initial release phones, so something like the Galaxy SII from Samsung is not out of the question. Mango is going to make this a pretty feature rich phone, and this is when they will really start pushing things (kind of like Android with the OG Droid).
I'd just hang on the the vibrant until then, or buy a used DVP and sell the vibrant till then.
Buy the DVP now...
Yeah I am thinking of buying the DVP on contract (I bought my vibrant off contract, and the DVP 8GB is only 80 bucks now ) and just selling it on ebay when the mango devices start coming. Hopefully dell will update the Venue Pro later and add a front facing camera and other cool stuff.
Do yourself a HUGE favour, read the dvp forum before buying this lemon: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=799. Discussions are now about how we can get dell to take ownership of the issues they seem to want to sweep under the carpet, multiple returns of devices only to get the same faults with replacement ones. You are far, far better off staying with what you have or going with another WP7 device. Really.
If its only 80$ and off contract, I'd hit it !
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Do yourself a HUGE favour, read the dvp forum before buying this lemon: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=799. Discussions are now about how we can get dell to take ownership of the issues they seem to want to sweep under the carpet, multiple returns of devices only to get the same faults with replacement ones. You are far, far better off staying with what you have or going with another WP7 device. Really.
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seriously this is buyer beware
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If its only 80$ and off contract, I'd hit it !
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If any more convincing is needed, read Dell's forums and see how they are ignoring the problems. You may be lucky but if you are not do not expect any support in any form from Dell. Also consider they were not among the OEM's listed at the Mango event, there hasnt been official word on whether Dell is definitely going to support Mango. JUST DONT DO IT!!! http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/mobile-devices/f/3824.aspx
What's the attraction to the DVP? the portrait keyboard only?
nickdog670 said:
I really love the DVP form factor and I am getting tired of my Samsung Vibrant. Should I wait for a Mango device before getting the DVP? When will we get to see some of the new Mango devices? Will they have front facing cameras? I heard about a windows phone 7 device similiar to the galaxy sII coming soon, is there any truth to that? Thanks for the help.
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A friendly advise: Stay away from the Venue Pro. It has serious stability issues and routinely crashes. New Mango devices will likely launch in the month of October/November time-frame. Almost nothing is known about the new devices so we have no if there's front facing camera.
I am sure there'll be a Windows Phone from Samsung that has similar specification to the Samsung Galaxy S II.
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I love all of these phones but can't decide which one, can anybody help?
I´ll go for Leo
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I´ll go for Leo
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I second that.
Dell streak is tooooooooo big, N900 is tooo old (and a dying os), Leo is the best of your options. But, maybe you are considering other phones like the desire or Nexus One maybe????
Get the Samsung Vibrant(unless u care about front facing camera and flash get EVO). Galaxy S series is the smoothest Android phone in the market.
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Get the Samsung Vibrant(unless u care about front facing camera and flash get EVO). Galaxy S series is the smoothest Android phone in the market.
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Nah, the i9000 is Samsung, remember the others???? I just don't think I'm ready to trust samsung with phones yet, plus the design looks tacky to me. I also hear bad things about the software and limits to custom ROMS....
i am not really intrested in samsung phones tbh (I don't like there visual appearance)
I also don't like the desires look.
And the nexus one is to expensive as i can get these devices for quite a bit cheaper.
less talk, more HD2. $250 on CL right now. If the explosion in Android development recently hasn't proven to you, people who matter love this phone. I haven't seen any phone get this much Android love so fast. Hell some native android phones don't get this much android love. The people we have working on the HD2 are amazing. They went from won't even boot to semi stable in like a week. There doing stuff people predicted 6 months to complete overnight. I'm very excited for the HD2 at the moment and see it living on for many years since all the phones from here out will be new gen locked down iphoney OS's. So HD2 may really be the last of the mohicans.
Hi dear,
I'm currently using Samsung Omnia 7 but I'm going to sell it and want to get new WP7 device.
I didn't like any phones with qwerty keyboard but after I saw LG Quantum I've liked it! it's so cute and sexy as well.
But when I was looking for some information about LG quantum, I read some articles and threads about new WP7 devices.
Do you guys think it will be coming out soon like in August or September?
and will it have duel core CPU and better GPU for XBOX gaming?
I know actually WP7 OS doesn't need the high spec but just I want to get Today's phone.
The most important feature that I care is a front face camera. Does anyone know about new WP7 device with front face camera?
Please give me some answers to make a good decision.
I also heard Mango update will be coming to current WP7 devices but the language supports(Especially East Asian languagues as I'm Korean) won't be on 1st gen wp7 devices. Please let me know what is right what is wrong.
Thanks guys. Too many questions, eh? Sorry about it.
Please anybody answer me!
The LG quantum was in the first wave of wp7 phones released by ATT. There are no dual core phones on spec for this year. It may be possible that some of the mango phones will have front cameras, but most likely will be next year at least. I haven't heard anything on language support not coming to 1st gen phones with mango, it is a software upgrade no reason why it shouldn't be there. Good luck
Mango has support for FFC's, so I would almost guarantee one or more of the OEM's will release a flashship Windows Phone device with a front facing camera during the Mango wave. There will also be some dual core phones this year, but again this will likely come with Mango devices.
We will know a lot more as to when we can expect Mango's release (and therefore new devices) on the 24th, when MS makes their announcements.
dont go for lg, the smiley logo looks so cheap.
Thanks guys.
But I already made an order for LG optimus 7q(quantum).. T.T
Some said its body quality and qwerty keyboard is so nice so I just decided to get it.
Anyway, it's very sad to hear that new device with front face camera will be releasing!
If I knew that I wouldn't order it .... Damn IT!
But is it coming in October or November?
And what is the FFC's??
Could you please explain me about it?
FFC=front facing camera
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@OP
I've got WP7 on my HD2 and love it, and I've had my HD2 for quite a while and it replaced my Touch Pro (slide out querty) and I miss the keyboard...
Even though the touchscreen keyboards are getting much better, especially on large 4.3" screens, I still like the feeling of keys under my thumbs...
I think you made a good choice... When my contract is up I'll likely forgo my big screen for the LG... Unless I can get my hands on an HTC 7 Pro...
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@OP
I've got WP7 on my HD2 and love it, and I've had my HD2 for quite a while and it replaced my Touch Pro (slide out querty) and I miss the keyboard...
Even though the touchscreen keyboards are getting much better, especially on large 4.3" screens, I still like the feeling of keys under my thumbs...
I think you made a good choice... When my contract is up I'll likely forgo my big screen for the LG... Unless I can get my hands on an HTC 7 Pro...
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Thank you. I will not be regret haha
Actually I like the qwerty keyboard as I have a same reason as you.
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FFC=front facing camera
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Oh I see. But I never heard about it.
Could you give me any links?
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Oh I see. But I never heard about it.
Could you give me any links?
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i don't have a link handy, but you can read your first and third posts in this thread where you talk about it
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Mango has support for FFC's, so I would almost guarantee one or more of the OEM's will release a flashship Windows Phone device with a front facing camera during the Mango wave. There will also be some dual core phones this year, but again this will likely come with Mango devices.
We will know a lot more as to when we can expect Mango's release (and therefore new devices) on the 24th, when MS makes their announcements.
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Would love to see where either of the above had been confirmed (or even leaked) for Mango. I follow this stuff pretty closely and haven't seen anything that suggested support for a front facing camera, and the MIX2011 information did not have Mango supporting anything other than single core snapdragon SoCs.
Yeah that's what I meant.
I've read article about wp7 every day but havent seen or read any news about FFC.
I think I can wait for 3rd gen wp7 which will be with apolo as the hardware requirement is not way far from current devices.
I'd like my LG quantum.
I would wait until 2012 or late 2011. The 4 core ARM Cortex-A9 processor will have hopefully been adopted by Microsoft for WP7 standards.
Doesn't the announcement of Skype coming to mango imply front facing cameras?
http://m.wpcentral.com/microsoft-show-mango-announce-new-dev-tools-skype-layar-and-more
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Doesn't the announcement of Skype coming to mango imply front facing cameras?
http://m.wpcentral.com/microsoft-show-mango-announce-new-dev-tools-skype-layar-and-more
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I don't think so.
We should just wait until 24th.
I am planning to buy hd7s should I buy now or wait for new devices with better hardware
Thanks in advance
I think it's a good time to buy a wp7, mango comming out (soon) And new hardware hmmmmm I think there will be some phones with a qwerty keyboard but thats it no big hardware upgrades
better wait
IMO, it is better to wait until mango comes out and some more phones with better hardware. Though WP7 is good enough, it is still yet to get so many features. Being Mango the biggest update, we need to see how much level , does it take the OS. And regarding hardware, all WP phones are just as per minimum hardware requirements by MS and no phone yet which makes you say WOW.
I own focus now and i do like it.
Currently my plan is to wait until Mango and possibly any new phones and take the call b/w a WP7 and iPhone 5.
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I am planning to buy hd7s should I buy now or wait for new devices with better hardware
Thanks in advance
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Will it support 3G in India? Nokia has plans for WP7 in India. I will say wait and see what they have to offer.
It is good to wait...most probably the new mango device will be come out during september or october,by ZTE....if you want go for nokia,you may have to wait until end of this year...
I'm pretty sure new devices will have a big difference with current devices,don't ever buy the device now,because they still using qualcomm 1st gen 1ghz snapdragon processor.
Furthermore,new devices most probably will be equipped with front facing camera,Gyroscope,better processor,better camera,higher ram,better screen and etc...so it is good to wait since it is not too long from now.
Don't choose the way like me,feel regret to be the first adopter of WP7,software flaws can be fixed...but hardware never...think twice
You can always wait my friend, there'll be always new better hardware.
but now, (at least here in europe) WP7 is an epic fail, and they are cleaning the stocks of WP7 phones. I got mine operator free (LG) for 199€ some months ago, it was more than 400€ worth, some had something like 640€ price (maybe due the 16gb storage). I wanted the Trophy for 149€, but it was actually out of stock.
Maybe they got remplaced by some new Android Galaxys clones.
If you wait until mango, maybe the prices will rise again (althoug I don't think so)
I read somewere that the WP7 operating system doesn't support dual core.
If its right, than I think there won't be better hardware until WP8 or Windows 8
If you buy right now a tegra phone, maybe you'll regret it, because news are coming, with 3DS-like screens, higher res displays, Windows 8 based phones and on and on...
You'll wait forever.
The only thing to do, is what I did, get a WP7 as cheap as possible, and hope that mango will bring some new features, and that our phone will be W8 upgradable...
yea,somehow agree with you...buy the phone as cheap as possible...because you might just want to try out the whole new OS,but it does not means it works perfectly for you.
Remember,is buy the phone at a cheap price,not sign a f**king cheap contract,never sign a contract.
If you want something last long,I reckon samsung galaxy s 2,its product life at least 1 or 2 years.Just like galaxy s
don't wait
buy an android I was once a windows mobile guy, android is better and there is more device to pick from. Microsoft mess up big time with this one.
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Thanks everyone for your replies I think it makes sense to wait till September
What Im doing is getting a new contract and getting S 2 then im going to sell it when nokia releases their wp7 device and buy it pay as you go. I make actully make money if my contract is cheap. However I like to change my device every few months.
Saved me from asking the same question. My contract has just run out and I have switched to a sim only deal. Still very happy with my Hd2.
I so badly wanted the HD7 bu have now decided to wait until I see what happens over next few months Instead of getting bogged down with a long contract now.
I currently have a Pre 2 which in itself is a fantastic phone has alot of cool things going for it. thing is im a bit of an app geek really didnt release until i went to webOS with limited number of apps.
I am very short on cash and am tied down to a contract for another 20 months after firstly upgrading and selling my phone to get a pre. Now i wanna have a WP7 but i no for a fact i wont be able to afford a new device.
SO question is what current WP7 is best prepared to update to Mango?
Just to let u no i have a hate relationship with Samsung!
Any advice would be appreciated otherwise im sticking with the pre 2 :-(
Any and all. All WP7 phones will be getting the Mango update!
i am aware that alll current windows phone 7 will be getting the mango update but which current device will best suit mango is what i was trying to say.
i am aware that all current wp7 are pretty similar but they are unique in there own individual way
i am tempted by the either the LG Optimus 7 or the HTC Pro 7 both are in my price range. i just wanted some peoples opinions on actually living with the phones and the expectations with Mango coming on and its 500 or so new features.
Also just a quick question someone might be able to tell me... i've read there has been a slow down in the release of apps. Is this due to the Mango update being released soon? Will all current apps be able to work on Mango?
Once again, any and all phones will work great with Mango due to the software being coded for the minimum hardware requirements (which all phones meet or even exceed!)
So just go with what screen size and/or features suit you Personally I wanted an AMOLED screen so I went with a Samsung Omnia 7 as it was cheap as well.
Many developers will wait until Mango is released because Mango will offer more API's so the hardware is better utilised. Current apps will work on Mango AFAIK.
All current devices will be about the same. They are all missing gyroscopes & front facing cameras, so certain mango features won't be enabled across the board with all current devices.
Just pick the one you like the form factor of, screen size ect.
As for which is the best? Its opinionated, but I would get the Samsung. Samsung uses better NAND memory and has a much better screen. Other than that it will perform the same as the HD7.
You will see a large surge in new apps come mango. Developers are waiting till they can submit their new apps with all the abilities and API's opened up to them.
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All current devices will be about the same. They are all missing gyroscopes & front facing cameras, so certain mango features won't be enabled across the board with all current devices.
Just pick the one you like the form factor of, screen size ect.
As for which is the best? Its opinionated, but I would get the Samsung. Samsung uses better NAND memory and has a much better screen. Other than that it will perform the same as the HD7.
You will see a large surge in new apps come mango. Developers are waiting till they can submit their new apps with all the abilities and API's opened up to them.
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Thanks for your opinion this is what i was after
FFC dont really bother me as i have great desire to use Skype on a phone. Interestingly i am wondering how the gyroscope on the new devices will work?
Also i was wondering what NAND is?
Coming from a Palm Pre 2 i was thinking about the DELL Venue as it has a slide out keyboard. a 4.1" AMOLED screen. Thing is if its anything like other DELL then ill stay clear!
What about the HTC Pro 7? worth a look? i like the fact of having an option to have a physical keyboard though this is not essential.
I've read that the LG Optimus 7 has a few, nice extra features that other phones dont?!
I liked my friends HTC Desire HD but am not a fan of android so im also thinking about the HTC HD7
Choices choices choices. HELP!!!
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Thanks for your opinion this is what i was after
FFC dont really bother me as i have great desire to use Skype on a phone. Interestingly i am wondering how the gyroscope on the new devices will work?
Also i was wondering what NAND is?
Coming from a Palm Pre 2 i was thinking about the DELL Venue as it has a slide out keyboard. a 4.1" AMOLED screen. Thing is if its anything like other DELL then ill stay clear!
What about the HTC Pro 7? worth a look? i like the fact of having an option to have a physical keyboard though this is not essential.
I've read that the LG Optimus 7 has a few, nice extra features that other phones dont?!
I liked my friends HTC Desire HD but am not a fan of android so im also thinking about the HTC HD7
Choices choices choices. HELP!!!
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Hi! I too just came from a Palm Pre 2! What a coincidence. I advise you not to go with Android. I in fact switched from a Motorola Droid to a Pre Plus in September of 2010 and then a Pre 2 in March of 2011. I have since upgraded to an HTC Trophy and I love my phone. I'm on Verizon, so the Trophy was my only WP7 choice. But it wasn't a bad one at all! While Web OS is a gorgeous operating system, I find WP7 more attractive and easier to use at times. The bigger screen and the keyboardlessness is what really tickles my fancy. Anyway, I would have to agree with the above poster and say a Samsung Focus is the best choice. I myself would have chosen one if I could because of the simple black, and sleekness of the device. Also, I became an early adopter of Mango and 7712 is absolutely amazing, you won't regret it! Variety is fun when it comes to smartphones.
Nexus One -> BB Torch -> Omnia 7 -> Pre 2
Above is my History of Smartphones and i'm anti Apple so i'm not getting an iPhone. I had the Omnia 7 in just in time for the NoDo update and i enojyed it but had lusted for a Pre 2 and webOS.
I am in the UK so i am limited to the phones available in the UK with the HTC Trophy, HD7, Pro7, Mozart, LG Optimus 7, and the Dell Venue Pro 7. I don't really want another Omnia 7 as i have already had it.
The only thing i didnt like about the WP7 was the ringtones and alert tones were not change to my own. Has this been sorted now? is this supported officially?
Anyone any experience in UK with an imported HTC Surrond?
Whats the difference between the HTC Pro 7 and the HTC Arrive ?
Will anyone be supporting the htc arrive to possibly build an Apollo rom once the code is released so we can get even a small taste of the windows phone 8 magic?
With XDA it seems almost anything is possible but I certainly wouldnt hold my breath, At this point Im more wondering whether or not the Arrive will get 7.8. Its also confounding that sprint seems to be the only of the "big 4" carriers that havent committed to wp8.
Agreed, I'd love to see another windows phone on the sprint network, especially a wp8 with support for lte
I think personally when WP8 comes out I will just buy the first one with a proper keyboard. I haven't been in a situation where I've not wanted another smartphone in a long time, but unfortunately I just use it so much that my 7 Pro isn't going to last much past the end of the year I fear...