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Which Phone should i get?

Yea i know there are alot of these threads so heres another.
My current phone the G1 is starting to break down so im looking for a new phone. I'm considering the Touch Pro2, Touch HD, Hero, and the Toshiba TG01. I have never used a windows mobile device before with the G1 being my first by HTC. I'm willing to try it as long as it has been prettied up some(TouchFlo or Stripes).
If you have either the Touch Pro2 or the Touch HD can you give me your experiences with them.

HTC in my experience is awefull build quality. After owning four diferent models I have vowed never to own one again. Shame really, apart from the poor camera selection they are designed really well ..... just a shame they fall to bits.
Out of your list, would have to be TG01.
Have you looked at the new Omnia II's? (not the Omnia HD) Theres a full on Iphone/HD lookie-likely and two keyboard models, one a TP2 type and one a blackberry type.
Don't forget the Acer M900 (which is what I currently use) and the more pocket friendly F900.

Touch Pro 2 definetly
Because keyboard is a must for me!
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wizern23 said:
Yea i know there are alot of these threads so heres another.
My current phone the G1 is starting to break down so im looking for a new phone. I'm considering the Touch Pro2, Touch HD, Hero, and the Toshiba TG01. I have never used a windows mobile device before with the G1 being my first by HTC. I'm willing to try it as long as it has been prettied up some(TouchFlo or Stripes).
If you have either the Touch Pro2 or the Touch HD can you give me your experiences with them.
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I had windows mobile and even though preference is a matter of perspective.... windows might be a step in the wrong direction. Back when I had it windows was ahead of its time... but now it seems like its standing still ... like its been stagnant for the last 3 yrs I haven't seen any major differences...from android to winmo is going Back to resistive touch screens... with not so finger friendly gestures because the screens tend to not pick up on the motion... I would really love to see MS step it up and release a new os or 7.0 which I hope makes a major difference. Dont get me wrong for business i would only use winmo or BB... but at this point Android just seems like a wiser choice... its not an ancient OS that will probably bore you quickly. All the phones sound great ... if you want break down and comparisons then go to infosyncworld.com ... they rate the phones for you.

As somebody who's an advocate of Windows Mobile, my honest opinion is that now isn't a good time to buy a WinMo phone at all, especially not for the first time. The only people I would recommend the current batch of WM phones to are people who already use WM, don't want to learn a different system, and REALLY need a new device.
Here's why: Windows Mobile 6 has a real learning curve, and coming from Android you're probably going to find yourself frustrated at a lot of the inconsistencies and complications. Further, WM7 is already on the horizon and I think we'll be getting our first real peeks at it before the year is out. It should be a massive, fundamental overhaul to the way WM works. There's a lot of unanswered questions right now, ESPECIALLY whether WM7 apps will work on WM6 devices and whether it will be possible to upgrade any current WM6 or 6.5 devices to 7. If not, it's possible that application support for WM6 devices might grind to a halt within a year.
If I were in your boots, I'd try to hold on to that G1 as long as you can. By October or November, I think we'll have a better view of the future of WM and it'll be easier to see whether WM will serve your needs going forward.
Now, all this is completely moot if you're rolling in enough dough to just buy a new phone whenever you feel like it. If so, feel free to buy whatever you like.

Wouldn't all of these phones be able to upgrade to winmo 7 anyway. I really dont care about having to learn how to use windows mobile. Im more interested in the devices themself. My main concern is switching to a device with out a keyboard.

wizern23 said:
Wouldn't all of these phones be able to upgrade to winmo 7 anyway. \\
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Well, that's the problem: we just don't know yet. A lot of people here seem to take it for granted that WM7 will be as "open" as WM6 in terms of porting and the like, but comments from MS make me a lot less confident -- it sounds like WM7 might have much more specific hardware requirements that will keep it from being run on older models. It's POSSIBLE WM7 will be able to be put on, say, a Touch Pro 2, but it's not a foregone conclusion.
All signs point to WM7 being a major upgrade (keep in mind that WM7 has been in development since 6.1 dropped if not longer), and I think it's going to be really disappointing to be stuck with 6.5 once 7 hits.
But if you're looking to roll the dice, the Touch Pro 2 looks like a great phone UNLESS you want to use it as a media player. Lack of a 3.5mm jack is a serious weakness there.

yea the 3.5mm jack is a necessity b/c i planned on getting the Motorola S9s or something along that line to use because all of those except the hero are huge or heavy

I personally don’t believe that WM7 will be ready early 2010. It might take until 2011 that we see any WM7device.
TP2 seams currently best HTC choice if you need keyboard. However frankly speaking after having 2 HTC devices (Hermes and Kaiser) with slide keyboards I am not very confident about the durability (quality) of HTC hardware. Both of the devices had after short time issues with the rails and tilt mechanism.
Just recently I went to a shop to have look on the TP2 and the keyboard rails and the tilt seams same crap as previous devices. You can also read many complain in the TP2 section about screen wobbling. Touch HD has a very nice large screen (love large screens) but it is 1 year old technology and performance wise it did not satisfied many people. Furthermore as you are from USA you would need Australian version to able to use in American 3G. But the Device cost still after 1 year some 800-900$
My personal favoured are currently the Samsung Omnia II/i800 and Samsung Omnia II pro (b7610) Specs on the paper and the current reviews are indicating that those are under best devices on the market. Furthermore Samsung has almost entirely covered with additional software the aged WinMo operation platform. Further positive point is the Price. Both Samsung devices are about 100-200 USD cheaper then HTC devices even though they have better CPU; Camera etc.

I agree with Bulldog -- the Omnia II devices look really excellent. I like the design of the TP2 better, but I trust Samsung's build quality more and, feature-wise, it's fantastic.

Yes but you have to add that with omnia or any other you´ll not have the support of this great site!
That for me is an added value to consider before buying

orb3000 said:
Yes but you have to add that with omnia or any other you´ll not have the support of this great site!
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Yes you do. This site offers Winmob o/s and Winmob App support to all. If you want cooked roms, look no further than omnia.modaco.com where there are plenty! My Omnia (original one) is currently running a great cooked rom of WM 6.5
Lets also not forget the AMOLED screen either on the new Omnias. I really regret buying my Acer M900, not because its crap - its not - but the new Samsungs look simply stunning. And if you factor in the success of the Omnia, widely regarded as the best Winmob all-rounder, the new Omnias should be spanking!

[Q] [q] HTC HD7 PRO POLL

THIS IS A POLL FOR THE HTC HD7 PRO.
Should HTC design, manufacture, and distribute an HTC HD7 PRO?
YES.
OR
NO.

Yes
Yes
Absolutely!
Of course!
Duh!

We don't even know what the HD7 is yet. How can we say there should be a "Pro" model?!?!
Although I do think there should be a "360 Supreme-Oh" or "360 Extreme-Oh" model. This would allow it to be used as a controller for an XBOX360 AND also automatically dispense 2 slices of bacon whenever you complain about there being no cut & paste.

I think screens are big enough and with new typing softwares such as swype, doubled with a sensitive and smooth capacitive touch screen, there isn't really a need for a tactile keyboard. That's just because Im comfortable with using the on-screen keyboard.

lavike said:
We don't even know what the HD7 is yet. How can we say there should be a "Pro" model?!?!
Although I do think there should be a "360 Supreme-Oh" or "360 Extreme-Oh" model. This would allow it to be used as a controller for an XBOX360 AND also automatically dispense 2 slices of bacon whenever you complain about there being no cut & paste.
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I like this idea.

Sure. Why the hell not (even though we actually don't know what the HD7 is yet)?

I have played with the EVO and I don't like 2 things about it. 1. I don't like Android. The look and feel of the operating system on the phone you can not do as much with as with Windows Mobile, as customizing it and hacking it. 2. The capacitive screen. You either have to use your fingers or a special stylus to do anything. If you are wearing any type of gloves, you have to take them off. That really sucks in the friged winter, if you either want to do anything with the phone or need to do anything. Now all you Android fans, don't bash me for stating this. This is my own personal opinion. I am not bashing Android. All I am saying is that (I DON'T LIKE ANDROID). Notice I said ( I ). If you like it, that's fine. I know a lot of people who have the EVO, and I have also recomended it for a few people. I also want a phone that has a keyboard like my TP2. From the voting that has been done so far, I am not the only one who feels that HTC should have a PRO version of their phones, AKA physical keyboard phones.

theomni said:
I think screens are big enough and with new typing softwares such as swype, doubled with a sensitive and smooth capacitive touch screen, there isn't really a need for a tactile keyboard. That's just because Im comfortable with using the on-screen keyboard.
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Bu WinPho 7 won't have swype which makes me a sad panda.

I am hoping that HTC builds a monster of a phone with awesome specs and a sliding keyboard soon.

5 inches + FULL qwerty pls

HTC pro 7
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/htc-7-pro-makes-the-scene-with-a-slide-out-qwerty-but-not-yet
apparently its only going to be a sprint exclusive

^ photos look great. Specs not so great, rather a slap in the face.

chizzwhizz said:
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/htc-7-pro-makes-the-scene-with-a-slide-out-qwerty-but-not-yet
apparently its only going to be a sprint exclusive
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This one is HTC 7 Pro, Not HD7 PRO. So sad!

From what I have seen for the results of the Poll, the majority of people want an HTC HD7 PRO phone. The HTC 7 Pro will most likely make it to Sprint, but wether or not the HTC HD7 will make it to Sprint is unknown at this time. I said before that if we want HTC & Sprint to bring a phone to market, then we should E-Mail Dan Hesse at Sprint to show him that we are Very Interested in a specific type of phone. We should E-Mail him to let him know that we WANT! the HTC HD7 PRO. E-Mail him. His E-Mail address is [email protected] to show him that we ARE INTERESTED in the HTC HD7 PRO. If enough of us get together and E-Mail him, then our collective voice will be heard.

Ever think there might be technical/cost reasons why they won't do a HD7 Pro? The HD7 is the top-spec WP7 handset (actually, isn't it the highest spec phone currently announced?) so I doubt it's quite as simple as just strapping a keyboard to the back. There'll be size, weight and cost restrictions to consider.

Hopefully this is the HTC HD7 PRO that could come to Sprint.
http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/10/11/hands-on-with-the-htc-hd7-pro/
If so, I hope that it comes very very soon.

Mr.Sir said:
Bu WinPho 7 won't have swype which makes me a sad panda.
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Let's throw a "yet" in there seeing as how we never know what's going to happen in the coming months.
Then again, if this Windows Phone 7 keyboard is as awesome as it seems, we may never need Swype. XD
gd761 said:
Hopefully this is the HTC HD7 PRO that could come to Sprint.
http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/10/11/hands-on-with-the-htc-hd7-pro/
If so, I hope that it comes very very soon.
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The title is a typo. There is no such thing as the HTC HD7 Pro. That's just the HTC 7 Pro.
A huge 4.3" phone with a slide-out keyboard would make for a rather large phone. I suppose it could reach a certain demographic. I think it may be a bit too big for my tastes.

To prjkhack;
If you had checked out the link, it states there that it is an early prototype of the HTC HD7 PRO. So what you are saying is that not only the title of the link is wrong, but also the contents of the article. We should just wait and see. If it is an early prototype, then the chances of it really coming to market are good. HTC would not have made a prototype just to waste money. There was a reason why they made an early prototype of the HTC HD7 PRO. The reason is most likely that HTC knows that either there is a demand or will be a demand for it. There are many of us that want and need a physical keyboard, and there are the ones who do not want the physical keyboard at all. As I had said in the past, we have to let Sprint, or what ever other provider you have, and HTC know that we as their customers WANT certain features built into their phones. Both us and them know that it is something that can be done, since it has been done by them before. It is not like we are asking for HTC to build something totaly unrealistic.
As for everyone else;
We shal hope that this is something that will make it to market very very soon. Hopefuly, HTC would keep a lid on it and just suprise us all and release the HTC HD7 PRO for a Christmas release for Sprint.

I like how the voting is going on this. So, please keep voting.

I hope you can also run windows mobile on this device...i would buy it..if its only win7 it would be sad..

[Resolved] [Q] Q: what should i buy Hd7 or HD2 or?

Hello everyone;
hope you keeping well, I have HTC Touch Pro in mean time and I wanna replace it, so with what I should replace it, HD7 or Hd2 or HTC Touch Pro2 ? Please help me decide one and why?
Thanks in advanced

You really want WP7 without basic features? For example: No SD Card support, no copy and paste, no default browser selection, no multitasking.
WM6.5 is not supported by Microsoft, so there willn't be any new updates.
Think about alternative platforms Android, Bada OS.
But if you really want Windows, I'd choose HD2.

First of all are you a tmobile customer? Most likely I'd say. But give some more options to choose from. Hd2 and touch pro 2 are both outdated already. Even though hd 7 looks pretty tempting but nah windows phone 7 is still a pretty weak platform. Consider buy a g2 or my touch 4g or vibrant 4g instead. But here of you decide the vibrant make sure it's vibrant 4g not the original one ok?
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out of those two id choose the hd7..its much more current hardware wise and it has the newer version of the windows mobile os...also in response to AdmcPL, those features arent available now but they will be released in a major update due out this spring, and even more features will be out in another update later this year

Why not go with the HTC Desire HD?
It's basically the same phone as the HD2, but comes with FroYo

I'd say HD7 is good , but not good enough .. wait and get something like dual core with better screen .. because soon HD2 & HD7 will be last gen. smartphones.
good luck anyway

If you have only these 3 options I'd go for the HD2 without any hesitation (I had one before my Z and had a Touch Pro before that one). You'll be able to flash all kinds of ROMS and install almost every OS on it (Android, WP7 etc.). There's a lot of support for this device.
Touch Pro2: only if you want to keep both a hard keyboard and WM. Otherwise forget it. Too old as already said by a previous poster.
HD7: I really don't like WP7. It looks so boring and ugly. Will there be as much applications and development as for Android or WM? I don't think so but that's just my opinion.
On the other way if you are not against other options I'd suggest you to buy an Android device like the Desire Z or HD as Android is really the best OS. You could install it on the HD2 but IMO the physical buttons are not appropriate and make the user experience less pleasant than with the soft keys on Android devices. I noticed immediately the difference when I switched from my HD2/Android to my Desire Z.
Hope it'll be helpful

GYIVIjuNkY said:
out of those two id choose the hd7..its much more current hardware wise and it has the newer version of the windows mobile os...also in response to AdmcPL, those features arent available now but they will be released in a major update due out this spring, and even more features will be out in another update later this year
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I doubt that there is any difference in hardware between HD7 and HD2 except for the kickstand in HD7.
But if anybody would ask me I will tell then to get HD2.
It can run WM6.5, Android and WP7 as good as any other phone.

@all thank u so much guys seriously I'm so greatful , and yes I will go and buy the HD2 today. I'll give my touch pro away I really liked the keyboard on it, guess ill buy external keyboard for the HD2 and for andorid I don't know didn't really use it that much but ill give it a shoot on my next HD2 hehe ... Thank you so so much

Get DVP or Wait For New Mango Devices?

I really love the DVP form factor and I am getting tired of my Samsung Vibrant. Should I wait for a Mango device before getting the DVP? When will we get to see some of the new Mango devices? Will they have front facing cameras? I heard about a windows phone 7 device similiar to the galaxy sII coming soon, is there any truth to that? Thanks for the help.

No by the looks of the new phones that were leaked. I don't think that they will have no front facing cameras. I think WP7 is more focused on there OS than building a phone that is mainly focused on Skype. They might have bought them out but the OS is the most important to them right now. They have to catch up because they started so late. I would say go ahead and get u a WP7 device because all users will be able to get mango. As far as mango goes, they will be updating that constantly because they want the new version to succeed and they will follow up of whatever version they have next. Personally I think that they will keep all of the users updated to the latest versions of the OS. Windows phone will prevail. Rock on Microsoft!!!!!!!!!
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We won't know the 1/2 of whats going to be released phone wise with Mango until we get a lot closer. I would almost guarantee at least one flagship from one of the OEM's will have a FFC. And they will probably (at least a good handful of them) be quite a bit more powerful than the initial release phones, so something like the Galaxy SII from Samsung is not out of the question. Mango is going to make this a pretty feature rich phone, and this is when they will really start pushing things (kind of like Android with the OG Droid).
I'd just hang on the the vibrant until then, or buy a used DVP and sell the vibrant till then.

Buy the DVP now...

Yeah I am thinking of buying the DVP on contract (I bought my vibrant off contract, and the DVP 8GB is only 80 bucks now ) and just selling it on ebay when the mango devices start coming. Hopefully dell will update the Venue Pro later and add a front facing camera and other cool stuff.

Do yourself a HUGE favour, read the dvp forum before buying this lemon: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=799. Discussions are now about how we can get dell to take ownership of the issues they seem to want to sweep under the carpet, multiple returns of devices only to get the same faults with replacement ones. You are far, far better off staying with what you have or going with another WP7 device. Really.

If its only 80$ and off contract, I'd hit it !

efjay said:
Do yourself a HUGE favour, read the dvp forum before buying this lemon: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=799. Discussions are now about how we can get dell to take ownership of the issues they seem to want to sweep under the carpet, multiple returns of devices only to get the same faults with replacement ones. You are far, far better off staying with what you have or going with another WP7 device. Really.
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seriously this is buyer beware

Avandor said:
If its only 80$ and off contract, I'd hit it !
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If any more convincing is needed, read Dell's forums and see how they are ignoring the problems. You may be lucky but if you are not do not expect any support in any form from Dell. Also consider they were not among the OEM's listed at the Mango event, there hasnt been official word on whether Dell is definitely going to support Mango. JUST DONT DO IT!!! http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/mobile-devices/f/3824.aspx

What's the attraction to the DVP? the portrait keyboard only?

nickdog670 said:
I really love the DVP form factor and I am getting tired of my Samsung Vibrant. Should I wait for a Mango device before getting the DVP? When will we get to see some of the new Mango devices? Will they have front facing cameras? I heard about a windows phone 7 device similiar to the galaxy sII coming soon, is there any truth to that? Thanks for the help.
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A friendly advise: Stay away from the Venue Pro. It has serious stability issues and routinely crashes. New Mango devices will likely launch in the month of October/November time-frame. Almost nothing is known about the new devices so we have no if there's front facing camera.
I am sure there'll be a Windows Phone from Samsung that has similar specification to the Samsung Galaxy S II.

[Q] Better wait for Mango Device or 1st one with Mango update?

Hi dear,
I'm planning to get Omnia 7 or Focus(I just sold my Omnia 7 few weeks ago poor..)
but I also want to get Mango Device with Front Facing Camera.(I assume FFC will be available on Mango WP)
Should I wait for it or just get 1st gen WP7 device?
Mango Beta looks so delicious so I can't make a decision.
Please give me some ideas guys!

if i were you i`d wait for the 2nd gen WP7 devices. i already have an htc trophy and so far im loving it, but i`ll be getting probably either a nokia or htc wp7 with ffc so i could skype video call. no offense to samsung and lg users but i find their hardware to be fairly similar and quite poor (experienced on android devices), especially the fact that omnia 7 had delays on getting the nodo update due to hardware/firmware stuff.

I got NODO on my Omnia 7 quite early.
I like the Super Amoled Screen actually
Maybe I better wait for Samsung or Nokia WP! Thank you anyway

I'd wait for the next generation of devices. But I have the Omnia 7 and I LOVE it. And once you go AMOLED, you can't go back to LCD...

That's right
LCD display wp7 device is not my option.
I only look for Samsung Focus and Omnia 7.
I'd used Omnia 7 for 3 months and I quite liked it but there were too many missing features so I sold it... I regret my decision now t.t

If you can wait... just wait for Mango and the 2gen devices, that will come with the update.
Aside from that, for me buying an WP device again is just an option, when it features an AMOLED screen. Metro looks an awful lot better on these screens.

All depends on what comes in the 2nd gen devices. If they come out with the same specs and no front camera (or no major features), I'll stick with my Trophy a little longer.