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iPhone4 sim on Inspire 4G - message from AT&T

Been using my iPhone4 sim (with adaptor) on my Inspire 4G since launch day. No problems at all, everything works fine. I'm on the grandfathered unlimited data plan for iPhone.
So just this morning, I get a text message from AT&T...
"AT&T Free Msg: Did you know that an eligible data plan is required for your 4G Smartphone? Pls call 611 to select a plan and establish your data connection today."
Anyone else get this?
This is not related to the tethering warning msg's that some have been getting (I don't tether). Wonder if it's "safe" to keep using my iPhone sim?

aimfire72 said:
Been using my iPhone4 sim (with adaptor) on my Inspire 4G since launch day. No problems at all, everything works fine. I'm on the grandfathered unlimited data plan for iPhone.
So just this morning, I get a text message from AT&T...
"AT&T Free Msg: Did you know that an eligible data plan is required for your 4G Smartphone? Pls call 611 to select a plan and establish your data connection today."
Anyone else get this?
This is not related to the tethering warning msg's that some have been getting (I don't tether). Wonder if it's "safe" to keep using my iPhone sim?
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Why not just call them up and have them put you on the proper 4G unlimited plan? I had the iphone with the grandfathered unlimited data plan and they initially had no clue what to do. I kept calling back till I found the right person to do it without losing the unl data plan. Just make sure you stress it enough to them that you don't want to lose the 30 dollar unl data.

Here is what you do .. I did the same thing:
1. Head back to an AT&T Local Store
2. Let them know you had iPhone 4 and moved over to Inspire 4G
3. Obtain replacement SIM card for 4G phone (no cost to you)
4. Have them check your Data Plan .. WITH NO CHANGES
I was iPhone 4 until getting the Inspire 4G .. also on the iPhone Unlimited Data .. when I obtained my Inspire 4G (from an AT&T Store) .. they replaced my SIM and changed my Data Plan to Unlimited SmartPhone Personal .. this is the grandfathered version of the iPhone Unlimited .. no difference in cost, NOTHING ELSE CHANGES.

When I changed over to the Inspire, they changed my plan over as well. I mentioned that I would still be going back and forth between my iP4 and the I4G. She told me that I would lose the visual voicemall, but I still kept my IP4 sim card. I just use an adapter to swap between the 2 phones.

aimfire72 said:
Been using my iPhone4 sim (with adaptor) on my Inspire 4G since launch day. No problems at all, everything works fine. I'm on the grandfathered unlimited data plan for iPhone.
So just this morning, I get a text message from AT&T...
"AT&T Free Msg: Did you know that an eligible data plan is required for your 4G Smartphone? Pls call 611 to select a plan and establish your data connection today."
Anyone else get this?
This is not related to the tethering warning msg's that some have been getting (I don't tether). Wonder if it's "safe" to keep using my iPhone sim?
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I got the same text message and an email. I called ATT and the rep told me I already have the best plan available for my phone (grandfathered unlimited) so no need to change anything. I made sure to ask if I needed a 4G plan for my new 4G phone and the rep said no, the unlimited plan that I have on my account is all I'll need... those messages are just automated messages that are triggered when a new phone is detected on your account. Hopefully the rep knew what they were talking about which is unfortunately hit and miss sometimes

Same here, I just ignore that txt..Keep on.. Every thing is fine....

iPhone 4 to Inspire sim
I got the same message and called 611, they kept me grandfathered in with $30 unlimited plan instead of the 2gig or 4 gig inspire plans. If you don't call they will start emailing you and sending more texts. No big deal though.

It's been 3 weeks and I was still getting these texts regularly so I went ahead and flashed a close to stock inspire rom (di11igaf) and took my phone into the AT&T store to figure it out. I explained my situation and they said my old iPhone was still on my account so they needed to update to my Inspire. They asked to see my phone and they pulled the IMEI off of it and entered it into the system, moved me from an iPhone unlimited to a 4G unlimited plan, and said I'm good to go. They talked like the text messages would have never ended unless I actually came in and got it changed over. I would recommend doing this while they still have an option to change you over to an unlimited 4G plan.

I had no issues at all but I went to a corporate store and did a upgrade so I ran into no issues. Just call em and get a proper sim. Your standard 3g sim is all you need. The new smaller 4g cards are for LTE devices.
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We are on the grandfathered unlimited plan. Mother-in-law is on our plan and she had an iPhone. Bought the Motorola Bravo and had to change to another unlimited data plan (just a cosmetic thing in their system). Se decided she did not like the Bravo and we put her back on the unlimited iPhone plan.
All of this was done IN STORE. Just go and they can take care of it and still keep you on the unlimited plan.

I got the same mail, but in my case they said I have the $15 unlimited dumb phone plan. Well I have had that plan on my Tilt, TP2 and now my Inspire. All are smartphones- right?
Well the csr said that was too confusing for him and he was going to leave my plan the way it is. No more pesky mails or msgs.
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ButtonBoy said:
I got the same mail, but in my case they said I have the $15 unlimited dumb phone plan. Well I have had that plan on my Tilt, TP2 and now my Inspire. All are smartphones- right?
Well the csr said that was too confusing for him and he was going to leave my plan the way it is. No more pesky mails or msgs.
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you are one of the EXTREMELY lucky few that are still on that plan. Fight to keep it as long as possible haha. I have heard of wayyy too many cases of ATT simply canceling that plan and moving those people to a new capped plan.

The way I did it was always be vocal about the only reason I still pay then a bit over $100/mo is my old school and actually unlimited data and I never previously signed a contract or got a discount on my 6 previous phones including 4 HTC devices. Wow it capitalizes HTC for me. Anyway, the inspire came out and my girl bought one and had me do the xda treatment on it. It took me about a month of playing with it to figure out I could get it for $50 on a two year and I spent some minutes explaining to the nice lady at 611 that the internet upgrade was trying to force me into a nasty new data plan that isn't from 2003. She called her supervisor and he said pick data pro and they'd change it back to smartphone personal unlimited instead of my old pda unlimited. I made both of them stay on the phone while the upgrade went through and immediately change my data back before I checked it in my online account management crap. I made them look at it again when the new "4g" sim and inspire showed up during a mutually understood and recorded phone conversation. I still have unlimited data and I've been tethering while out of town and during Comcast outages for almost 8 years now. ATT beats the crap out of every carrier in my area. VZW has crazy coverage with slow evdo rev. A because they bought Alltel (they started here) but I get 3-5.5 mbps just on the device and up to 7ish down while tethering. One of the finer points of Arkansas is that the number of bandwidth-chewing geeks on the ground is quite low in comparison to the genpop so I have bandwidth to burn.
I'm finally getting decent at typing on a phone that isn't an HTC qwerty spider. The desire z's keyboard buttons are too small and close together for my thumbs and I bite my fingernails so I can't use those and the extra 256mb of RAM doesn't hurt.
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buddy17 said:
you are one of the EXTREMELY lucky few that are still on that plan. Fight to keep it as long as possible haha. I have heard of wayyy too many cases of ATT simply canceling that plan and moving those people to a new capped plan.
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I am very specific in asking them- "are you changing the terms of my agreement? "
If they ever answered YES I could walk away with no ETF...
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Hey I am in this same boat
Hey I am in this same boat, I swapped from old iphone 3g unlimited and put my sim into the inspire 4g.
Now I have just been ignoring these texts, is there any reason I should not be? Why did you guys change, is there like a speed difference or something?

jigglywiggly said:
Hey I am in this same boat, I swapped from old iphone 3g unlimited and put my sim into the inspire 4g.
Now I have just been ignoring these texts, is there any reason I should not be? Why did you guys change, is there like a speed difference or something?
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There can be, all it is is a coding difference in AT&T's system. If you call them you will not lose unlimited data.
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id10terrordfw said:
There can be, all it is is a coding difference in AT&T's system. If you call them you will not lose unlimited data.
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Yep, did this a couple of months ago. It's just how the provision data (iphone, or smartphone).

This should also be done if coming from a non-HSPA+ compatible phone (that's not an iPhone). Again, you won't lose unlimited data. Just make it clear you want nothing done to your plan that will cause you to lose unlimited data.
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Guys.. I work at an AT&T store.. and most of what is said above is nonsense (no offense). You CAN currently get the 4G unlimited data plan if you have the pre-existing $30 unlimited plan.. It is the same cost, but you get the faster speeds. You DO need to change to that plan to get the faster speeds.. and it does make a change to your agreement (you will have a different unlimited data plan). Walking away if you ask if it makes a change when you are there to make a change? does that make sense to ANYONE?
Also, no need to be "vocal" about how you want to keep your unlimited data... Just stating it once politely is enough.. It is just frustrating when people on here give instructions which basically say to treat the ATT employee in a manner less than professional. Trust me, we get yelled enough for "no reason" every day... People do not understand how something works, then blame the ATT employee. Most of us are at the stores to help you, and want to do so if you can treat us with atleast a little respect. Also, SIM cards are NOT just "free" for everyone... Unless you talked to customer service first and they are crediting your account for a free one, SIM cards cost $15 or $25 depending on your location. The cost is not the fault of the employee at the store.
Also, a warning... It looks like the grandfathered unlimited plans will be going away sooner than later... As an employee, I will loose my unlimited data if I go over 4gb in one month, or if I change devices (I might put off getting the HTC Vivid for now because of this).. I will have to pick a 2gb or 4gb plan accordingly (depending on what I want to pay, as I don;t get free service). Anyways, Have a happy holiday season everyone..

^^ I've also heard of customers w/"unlimited" data getting admonished for exceeding 5 GBs in a month, and getting threatened w/throttling for a subsequent "offense". And continued excessive use would result in being moved to a capped plan.

Using a iPhone data plan

So I got my infuse yesterday and I love it. I have a unlimited data plan from my iPhone. I haven't actually had an iPhone since the 4 came out last summer. I had a desire z and then a desire HD. I had no issues with them and my data plan once the apn had been set.
Since those phones are not '4g' I wasn't bothered by att. Now that I'm on the infuse and it uses 4g, I got a text a few hours after using it saying I need a 4g plan. I'm not willing to give up my unlimited data for a restricted 4g plan. Even if I don't need that much data. So do I have any alternatives?
Thanks in advance

I didn't want to make a new thread, but after using my infuse for an hour non stop with wifi on and browsing the web, my battery temp is 41c. And the battery drained from 100 to 65. That seems extremely hot to me...

@eatjello
Same exact thing I'm having, so hot, and charging is so slow I'm hating this phone a little, and continuous use last me just 4hrs wifi turned off and gps off. Charging takes 4 hrs +
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eatjello said:
I didn't want to make a new thread, but after using my infuse for an hour non stop with wifi on and browsing the web, my battery temp is 41c. And the battery drained from 100 to 65. That seems extremely hot to me...
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I had the same issue, go and trade the phone. Either the battery of the phone is bad.
Someone suggested to turn airplane mode on and back off and it might fix it (dont know how).
Also you do not need to loose your unlimited. There's no 4G plan, best buy did the calling but there's a unlimited plan for the infuse, it's called SmartPhone Personal.
Here's a text from ATT on how to get it.
Data Plan for SmartPhones. Unlimited domestic data usage. Only available for upgrades. Requires customers to be on a "Gold List" SmartPhone Plan prior to upgrade to 4G device.

I get the same messages in my email & text from AT&T. I also have the iPhone unlimited data plan. I wonder if not having the right plan doesn't allow me to utilize the full speed of hspa+. I get like 3mbps down & 1.26mbps up. I'm also using my iPhone 4 microsim in my Infuse.

Papi4baby said:
I had the same issue, go and trade the phone. Either the battery of the phone is bad.
Someone suggested to turn airplane mode on and back off and it might fix it (dont know how).
Also you do not need to loose your unlimited. There's no 4G plan, best buy did the calling but there's a unlimited plan for the infuse, it's called SmartPhone Personal.
Here's a text from ATT on how to get it.
Data Plan for SmartPhones. Unlimited domestic data usage. Only available for upgrades. Requires customers to be on a "Gold List" SmartPhone Plan prior to upgrade to 4G device.
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If i bought this phone off of someone else who bought it from ATT, can i still trade it in for a new one?

I'm a Rep with at&t and you don't have to give up that unlimited plan. We still have the ability to grandfather even the 4G plan. Trust me...I deal with poor customers all day who receive invalid info from dumbass reps who can't read outside our training manuals. Call our CARE and tell them you need to switch your data plan to HSPA+ unlimited. Even if it means calling back ten times, don't stop until you get it!
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bullet358 said:
I'm a Rep with at&t and you don't have to give up that unlimited plan. We still have the ability to grandfather even the 4G plan. Trust me...I deal with poor customers all day who receive invalid info from dumbass reps who can't read outside our training manuals. Call our CARE and tell them you need to switch your data plan to HSPA+ unlimited. Even if it means calling back ten times, don't stop until you get it!
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i can confirm this is true. i just did what bullet told me to, i'm now on the 4G plan with unlimited data still. It's still annoying having a micro sim. but i guess it means i can go to the new iphone if i decide to
now to address the heat issue...

bullet358 said:
I'm a Rep with at&t and you don't have to give up that unlimited plan. We still have the ability to grandfather even the 4G plan. Trust me...I deal with poor customers all day who receive invalid info from dumbass reps who can't read outside our training manuals. Call our CARE and tell them you need to switch your data plan to HSPA+ unlimited. Even if it means calling back ten times, don't stop until you get it!
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Do you have to sign a new contract to change your data plan like that?

sidepocket said:
Do you have to sign a new contract to change your data plan like that?
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no you do not

just call in and tell them you have a new phoen and that you need to get switched over to your new data plan Smartphone personal 4G.
idk if there is a difference but the lady who did my change told me that since it was a 4G phone they give us a plan that has the advantage to access 4G when available idk if thats true but thats what i was told

eatjello said:
So I got my infuse yesterday and I love it. I have a unlimited data plan from my iPhone. I haven't actually had an iPhone since the 4 came out last summer. I had a desire z and then a desire HD. I had no issues with them and my data plan once the apn had been set.
Since those phones are not '4g' I wasn't bothered by att. Now that I'm on the infuse and it uses 4g, I got a text a few hours after using it saying I need a 4g plan. I'm not willing to give up my unlimited data for a restricted 4g plan. Even if I don't need that much data. So do I have any alternatives?
Thanks in advance
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You just have to call cs, it is free unlimited data plan for 4g phones, i was offered the same with my inspire and i am presently on it.
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Free unlimited data? Not sure what you mean by that. If you already had a data plan, it was free to switch it over to the unlimited 4G. but you can't get the data free.
I had my unlimited iphone grandfathered over to the 4G unlimited data. but my "4G" speeds suck. they barely hit 2mps. no faster than my 3G plan was.

Grandfathered Plan no 4G, New Plan 4G... WTF?

I was reading about Data lags on the sensation but never noticed it on mine (Tmobile US) but I did notice that my "4G" speeds were incredibly slow and went through all the troubleshooting "Ciphering off/on radio off/on" "airplane mode on/off" "hard reset" "new sim card" ect.
Using the SpeedTest.Net App, I was getting about 1MB download and less than 1MB Upload. Sometimes I'd get 500KB Download. I called Tmobile Customer Service and they said that my current android plan "$35 Unlimited Data and Text" (even though my phone constantly shows 4G at the top) does not include 4G and I'd have to update to the new plan which includes 4G for $30 5GB Unlimited (wtf?) Data and $15 Unlimited Text"....so I changed it....2 hours later....
I'm still getting the same speed. <1MB Download <800KB Upload...
Any help guys? Did I pretty much just get ripped off? I'm on Tmobile US, in a 4G coverage area. --- What speeds are you guys getting?

Toeeknee said:
I was reading about Data lags on the sensation but never noticed it on mine (Tmobile US) but I did notice that my "4G" speeds were incredibly slow and went through all the troubleshooting "Ciphering off/on radio off/on" "airplane mode on/off" "hard reset" "new sim card" ect.
Using the SpeedTest.Net App, I was getting about 1MB download and less than 1MB Upload. Sometimes I'd get 500KB Download. I called Tmobile Customer Service and they said that my current android plan "$35 Unlimited Data and Text" (even though my phone constantly shows 4G at the top) does not include 4G and I'd have to update to the new plan which includes 4G for $30 5GB Unlimited (wtf?) Data and $15 Unlimited Text"....so I changed it....2 hours later....
I'm still getting the same speed. <1MB Download <800KB Upload...
Any help guys? Did I pretty much just get ripped off? I'm on Tmobile US, in a 4G coverage area. --- What speeds are you guys getting?
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Did you go over your limit? They will throttle you if you go above the 2gb/5gb/10gb
I'm currently throttled and only getting .5mbps down. sucks but I got throttled one week before my new cycle so hopefully it will go back up next week

Nope. Got the phone last week and Its been slow like that since. I called tmobile to check and see and they said I was well below my usage.

You shouldn't have changed your plan. There might be something wrong with the phone or the area you live in.

That's what I asked them, I said what if it's the phone and not my data plan. I told her that Tech Support doesn't know what the problem is but they just think that the plan is old and that's why its not on 4G, I asked if I still get the same problem can I change my plan back to the grandfathered plan, The rep said that she had a problem like that before and she switched her plan and she got fast speeds but if it doesn't get resolved she will note the account so that "special accounts care" MIGHT switch me back to my old plan.
Still slow speeds.

The feature your taking about, $30 for the 5G data is a Required feature if your on an old plan. You can switch to the $79.99 even more plan and that gives you unlimited talk text and 2GB web each month. if you choose to remain on the old plan, the 5GB $30 plan is the data plan we can add in the store.
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My thing is, I had a plan for $35 Unlimited Data and Text but they said that doesn't support 4G so I changed the plan to $30 5GB and $15 Unlimited Text plan but the speeds are STILL the same.
I was wondering what everyone else's speed is and if I just got ripped off going into a new more expensive data plan yet receiving the same speed as my old cheaper plan.

It could be in the area your in, but just to be sure, go into your tmobile store and try speedtest while your there and also check the sensation they have in the store.
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good idea checking the speed on theirs. But as far as area wise, I don't think its that. I live in Garland, Texas but go out all over the place for fun. So I go to Dallas, Rockwall, Fort Worth, and all these big cities and still, slow speeds.
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they lied to you.
I am getting 6mb down on the unlimited G1 plan. I did switch sim cards and used the one in the box, but did a web chat to activate so I encountered no BS.
Real sorry about that...
Seriously,
ask for a floor manager, then ask the floor manager for their supervisor, don't stop until you get you plan back.
I got unlimited loyalty minutes $69 for 2 lines and $30 for unlimited text and data. mine data tally never shows any usage, it just says unlimited, doesn't show an amount just 0% used.
I was on the phone for 3 hours though showing my backside a couple years ago.
I got lucky I think, maybe I just feel lucky and have the same deal as the rest of the customers who were around back in the voicestream days before the tmobile buyoiut;
point is though, be nice and cool but persistent and keep asking for managers and supervisors until you get your plan back.
also,
always ask them to place a note on your profile saying what ever they promise.
good luck
and I'm out...

I have a feeling it is something with your phone.
I'm on the grandfathered $25 unlimited Android Data plan (5GB of 4G) and below are speeds I've gotten with 3-4 bars of 4G.
I live about 25 minutes outside of Milwaukee, WI.
5.5 - 10 Mbps download and .6 - 2.2 Mbps Upload

Daddyroot said:
they lied to you.
I am getting 6mb down on the unlimited G1 plan. I did switch sim cards and used the one in the box, but did a web chat to activate so I encountered no BS.
Real sorry about that...
Seriously,
ask for a floor manager, then ask the floor manager for their supervisor, don't stop until you get you plan back.
I got unlimited loyalty minutes $69 for 2 lines and $30 for unlimited text and data. mine data tally never shows any usage, it just says unlimited, doesn't show an amount just 0% used.
I was on the phone for 3 hours though showing my backside a couple years ago.
I got lucky I think, maybe I just feel lucky and have the same deal as the rest of the customers who were around back in the voicestream days before the tmobile buyoiut;
point is though, be nice and cool but persistent and keep asking for managers and supervisors until you get your plan back.
also,
always ask them to place a note on your profile saying what ever they promise.
good luck
and I'm out...
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Your unlimited loyalty plan is 5GB . Also, customer care can get you back on your old plan, the guy I'm quoting makes it seem like they are cutting diamonds lol.
Just call and tell the rep you speak to that your account was changed in error and you do not want your data plan changed. If you are questioning the phone, get it replaced.
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called tmobile again, talked to them and troubleshooted for about an hour, turning phone on and off, refreshing network ect. and still low speeds 600kbps download and 32 kbps upload. Asked if it could just be my phone and they said no. The tech is opening up a trouble shoot ticket, saying its probably a network error and I should wait up to 72 hours for a technician to come out to the area.
guess I'm waiting.
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I will add to the confirmations that the plan or SIM doesn't matter. I use the $25 MyTouch 3g plan and I have an older "2g" SIM card in my Sensation. I average 6-7 Mbs bandwidth with max 10 Mbs seen so far.

digiholic said:
I will add to the confirmations that the plan or SIM doesn't matter. I use the $25 MyTouch 3g plan and I have an older "2g" SIM card in my Sensation. I average 6-7 Mbs bandwidth with max 10 Mbs seen so far.
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I have to humbly disagree with you there...kinda.
I know some here have the same plan and situation you have and granted it works in your case, it is not really fair to say it works for all.
I came from a nexus one and simply changed my sim card over to the sensation on June 9. It worked fine until day 3. I think you have responded to a couple of my threads asking about the "android" vs grandfathered plans on the sensation but I do not recall what was said. Beside that, I was connected fine with my grandfathered data plan which I used with my old SE Xperia x1. It was called a 'smartphone' data plan, which cost 24.99/mo with 400 data texts. I have since replaced the sim that came with the box, made sure the IMEI's matched to their systems (which I think was the reason for the data cutoff) and now have a coded "android" plan.
From day 3, I have been on here asking people's opinions on, "data is data so our grandfathered plans should work no problem"....and to talking with tmobile cs, opening a trouble ticket because it came at the same time there was a problem outtage in my area (San Antonio, TX). I was told that the trouble ticket takes about 3 days to be addressed/resolved.
BUT on day 4 (day 2 of the trouble ticket), I called tmo cs again and got to the second level tech dept and had an in depth troubleshooting call with the extremely nice tech. Turned out she has an android device too so that helped things along.....The tech checked my trouble ticket but had a feeling that she could fix it so we agreed to go for the gusto. Upon tweaking the apn's and other settings, nothing worked even though I have the 4g icon up on my notification bar, just no data transfer. Before hanging up, I asked her about my grandfathered plan and was weary of getting the "suggested" android plans out there because there was nothing comparable to my grandfathered plan. She then went to her senior manager who is also nice and explained my situation. The rep came back to me and said I was right, the old grandfathered plans DO NOT work and any IMEI's that come back with incompatible data plans get disconnected.
So she and her manager saw that I was also a long time member of tmo for over 10 years and agreed to set me right and not have me pay more for a plan that I am getting less features on. The manager went and recoded my grandfathered plan to read Android instead of smartphone. (I am guessing this unlimited wording is 5gb and then throttles me but I am on wifi most of the time so it doesn't bother me) Two seconds later I got a sms from tmo welcoming to the android data plan.
About an hour later I found that my data was flowing again. So I must stress that even though your grandfathered plans may still work, do not be surprised if tmo disco's your data connection. You'll still make and receive calls, but data will be disco'ed.
But to the OP with slow data issues, have you changed the Sim card at all? I would advise against calling tmo and asking them to check the IMEI they have on file because I think that is what flagged my phone to begin with. And as for the data plan issue, you will need to come to grips with what works for you.

This may not be common, but I had to get a new SIM card for my N1 when they rolled out their HSDPA stuff locally I couldn't get any 3G at my apartment after they did; an updated/new SIM card fixed that issue.
As far as the plan, they tried to get me on the same gimmick; said that I should upgrade to the 4G plan etc etc...I politely refused it and im getting 6mbps here in Blue Bell, PA

kpjimmy said:
BUT on day 4 (day 2 of the trouble ticket), I called tmo cs again and got to the second level tech dept and had an in depth troubleshooting call with the extremely nice tech. Turned out she has an android device too so that helped things along.....The tech checked my trouble ticket but had a feeling that she could fix it so we agreed to go for the gusto. Upon tweaking the apn's and other settings, nothing worked even though I have the 4g icon up on my notification bar, just no data transfer. Before hanging up, I asked her about my grandfathered plan and was weary of getting the "suggested" android plans out there because there was nothing comparable to my grandfathered plan. She then went to her senior manager who is also nice and explained my situation. The rep came back to me and said I was right, the old grandfathered plans DO NOT work and any IMEI's that come back with incompatible data plans get disconnected.
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Yeah they were trying to be nice & all, but seriously, Tmobile blocked all Sensation IMEIs that weren't on their newer plans to force you to "upgrade". It's not the CS reps fault though, but tmobile's & their wanting everyone on a tiered data plan. Your old plan was fine, even worked for a few days (like mine did) until tmobile flipped that lovely IMEI blocking switch.

Toeeknee said:
Nope. Got the phone last week and Its been slow like that since. I called tmobile to check and see and they said I was well below my usage.
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Lets take a step back. What speeds were you seeing before with your old 3G phone? It's possible that you're just an area with slow speeds. If that's the case call and demand your old data plan back.

T-Mobile has done a lot of cleaning of data usage on their end.
Their new phones and systems are made with code that specifically disregard older data plan coding.
Basically this allows them to say that your old data coding is incompatible with the newer system they're using.
Just looking for you to pay more for less. ( T-Mobile loves AT&T )
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Tmobile blocked all Sensation IMEIs that weren't on their newer plans to force you to "upgrade". It's not the CS reps fault though, but tmobile's & their wanting everyone on a tiered data plan. Your old plan was fine, even worked for a few days (like mine did) until tmobile flipped that lovely IMEI blocking switch.
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I'm using a Sensation with an older Android plan ($24.99 + 400 Texts) and i'm also using a sim card from 2005. I have "4G" speeds. What everyone needs to realize is the technology is the same across the board. There is technically no such thing as 4G on the t-mobile network. If your old "3G" phone worked in your area, then your new "fake 4G" phone will work. If it doesn't then demand to talk to someone else until they fix it. T-mobile shouldn't be tricking anyone into upgrading to a 4G plan by saying it wont work, because that's 100% untrue. All t-mobile did was increase the bandwidth that their old cell-sites would operate at. If your device can handle the faster speeds then it will benefit from the bandwidth upgrade. If the device can't handle the extra bandwidth then it will connect at the fastest speed that it is physically capable of.
I can see T-Mobile's argument if their 4G was LTE or WiMax, but it's not. If T-Mobile wants to argue about 4G speeds then demand to keep your plan at 3G speeds. Their 3G devices would theoretically reach 7.2Mbs which i've only managed to beat once with this new phone, and that speed was 7.7Mbs.
Sorry for the long post. In short, don't give in and fight with them. They'll fix it. Keep escalating the issue until you reach their CIO if you have to.

What do you think about at&t?

I've read a lot of post about at&t being a terrible network and blah blah blah. I want your opinion on it. I've been with at&t for a long time. I've been with them when was 'Cingular'. Now I've noticed since the atrix and inspire have came out, my network has been very inconsistent. Are you noticing this too? And is it enough to make you switch?
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I'm generally happy with speeds and service. Minus the major spots (JFK, LAX, any sporting event) i've never had issues.

I too have been with them since cingular. I have noticed no change. Its the same service I had with my iphone. /Shrug
Ppl were complaining when I had that too But as far as Data was concerned it always worked. i could Stream movies or Sirius any time all day/night.
Still do/can. I don't use the phone part of my cell phones tho so I may have a skewed opinion. I think I currently have 4000+ Roll Over minutes

Ya if I paid for my bill id switch ATT sucks ass ill be on Verizon when my dad makes me start paying
ATT is a bunch of crooks I don't know why my dad puts up with it always some extra charges on there and they never take it off my dad had to call 3 times to get the 9.99 for ATT navigator off my line I kept telling my dad my phone doesn't even have that stupid app cuz I deleted all the bloatware
My girlfriend also works for a ATT call center and they teach them to slam and cram peoples accounts because they think no one will notice the goverment should of never let them buy out t mobile.
ATT got ride of there unlimited plan luckily im grandfathered in
But they put a cap on t mobile unlimited plan after they bought it I think its 5gb then u just get super slow speeds after that
There a giant corperation and there hungry for nickels and dimes
I suggest everyone who pUsh there ATT bill to take a close look at it
Oh one more thing there home dsl internet has a cap on it also 150 gb a month most people won't hit that ya bit if you have netflix streaming you'll hit it every month in my opinion alkida needs to pit there focus on blowing ATT up and not towers
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ac3kill said:
Ya if I paid for my bill id switch ATT sucks ass ill be on Verizon when my dad makes me start paying
ATT is a bunch of crooks I don't know why my dad puts up with it always some extra charges on there and they never take it off my dad had to call 3 times to get the 9.99 for ATT navigator off my line I kept telling my dad my phone doesn't even have that stupid app cuz I deleted all the bloatware
My girlfriend also works for a ATT call center and they teach them to slam and cram peoples accounts because they think no one will notice the goverment should of never let them buy out t mobile.
ATT got ride of there unlimited plan luckily im grandfathered in
But they put a cap on t mobile unlimited plan after they bought it I think its 5gb then u just get super slow speeds after that
There a giant corperation and there hungry for nickels and dimes
I suggest everyone who pUsh there ATT bill to take a close look at it
Oh one more thing there home dsl internet has a cap on it also 150 gb a month most people won't hit that ya bit if you have netflix streaming you'll hit it every month in my opinion alkida needs to pit there focus on blowing ATT up and not towers
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Wow that was so hard to read I think My brain vomited.
ATT has not been approved to buy T-Mobile yet.....Altho they will most likely get it.
Alkida? My God what the hell......
There, their, and they're.
There is a place. Like hey i am going over there.
Then we have the word Their, It shows possession. Like that is theirs.
We also have they're or, they are. As is they’re over there, you can see their car. See these, ............ .. . . . .<--- these are the periods you left out of your entire post.

Verizon and att both have subpar performance for price. Generally all American providers are horrible.
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Wow that was so hard to read I think My brain vomited.
ATT has not been approved to buy T-Mobile yet.....Altho they will most likely get it.
Alkida? My God what the hell......
There, their, and they're.
There is a place. Like hey i am going over there.
Then we have the word Their, It shows possession. Like that is theirs.
We also have they're or, they are. As is they’re over there, you can see their car. See these, ............ .. . . . .<--- these are the periods you left out of your entire post.
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Lol. I'm trying to remember if this is the same poster I had punctuation issues with recently.
Txts alot, was the excuse, I believe. I wonder if teachers/professors accept that as a valid reason these days.

I'm sad with the speeds I get overall with ATT but I'm in a contract. Plus the phones are fun
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It's the same person LOL i don't use periods on my phone if i was on a computer that would be a different story haha
Your lucky my phone didn't auto correct to something else I sent my boss a text one day and was trying to spell kati yet somehow it became marijuana let's just say I don't work there any more bahaha
ATT is very dirty you should hear half the stories my girlfriend tells me when she gets home
One person had 600$ in long distance charges all because they didn't have a 5$ a month plan
And the worst part is the lady didn't make any of the calls someone tapped into her line and wracked all that up here's another one
Customer calls and complains that he's being charged overages inhospitable cell phone bill for data when he presumed he had unlimited turns out some store employee changed his account to the 4gb plan when he came into the store to add a line. Theres a period ROFL bahahaha
Sorry but any company that puts a limit in the internet is f'd up in my book whether or not its cell phone or home phone its just flat out ridiculous PERIOD
And for anyone with ATT home service I bet you got a lil 5$ a month service line protection plan on your bill and I bet if you ask to remove it'll still be there or it will be back in a matter of time.
They teach their (yes I do know the difference ) employees to slam and cram all kinds of Crap service plan just one of many little extra charges you will catch on your bill
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It's the same person LOL i don't use periods on my phone if i was on a computer that would be a different story haha
Your lucky my phone didn't auto correct to something else I sent my boss a text one day and was trying to spell kati yet somehow it became marijuana let's just say I don't work there any more bahaha
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I don't know why, but I like you. Haha

Are you sure because I've already seen tmobile - ATT comercials on tv about there merge
Awwww thats sweet
I'm gonna hit your thanks button
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Thanks for all the replys guys but i won't be switching anytime soon because in my area (southern California) I have good signal and decent speeds. Sprint doesnt have good signal(in my area), Verizon is too expensive for me and t mobile isnt in the picture. When at&t and t mobile merge fully, we will be the national largest 4G network so why switch now?
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I really haven't had any problems out of them. Of course, I'm not the one paying the bill either. Lol. If I have a problem my mother-in-law can get it corrected with no questions asked. If I was using mobile data more than WiFi, my speeds wouldn't be that drastically different. D/l speeds are around 3.5 mbps, both mobile and WiFi. U/l speeds are 1.5 mbps on mobile, and .3 mbps on WiFi. I had iWireless prior to being added to the account, which runs on the Sprint network, and out here in T county TN, Sprint's service is terrible. With ATT, I actually get service at places that Sprint doesn't cover. My opinion is, after researching plan options from ATT and Verizon, that with the new data plans, Verizon is the most money hungry carrier of em all. 100 dollars for 5gbs per month? At least ATT you get 2gbs for only 30 dollars. With the options we currently have with ATT, if we got the same thing with Verizon, we would be charged over 300 dollars a month.
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I really haven't had any problems out of them. Of course, I'm not the one paying the bill either. Lol. If I have a problem my mother-in-law can get it corrected with no questions asked. If I was using mobile data more than WiFi, my speeds wouldn't be that drastically different. D/l speeds are around 3.5 mbps, both mobile and WiFi. U/l speeds are 1.5 mbps on mobile, and .3 mbps on WiFi. I had iWireless prior to being added to the account, which runs on the Sprint network, and out here in T county TN, Sprint's service is terrible. With ATT, I actually get service at places that Sprint doesn't cover. My opinion is, after researching plan options from ATT and Verizon, that with the new data plans, Verizon is the most money hungry carrier of em all. 100 dollars for 5gbs per month? At least ATT you get 2gbs for only 30 dollars. With the options we currently have with ATT, if we got the same thing with Verizon, we would be charged over 300 dollars a month.
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Agreed. And yours is $30 for 2gb? Here you get 2gb for $25, but I have unlimited and I havent seen my unlimited data being capped
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There has been no big change. Been with AT&T since 2000>>Cingular>>AT&T. If anything this backhaul thing is an improvement in my area. I get good customer service, albeit with Enterprise Customer Care...and yes they still try to cram stuff I don't need at me. I think most sales peeps are like that. I just take it upon myself to withstand the onslaught. There have been times I have found stuff on my bill that I didn't want / believe I asked for. Just call them up, and they have retro'd my bill every time with usually no fuss, and usually an apology. I can be down with that. Due diligence and direct/firm/clear and not a-holish communication goes a long ways in my experience...

Lol. Too funny
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meiguoguizi said:
There has been no big change. Been with AT&T since 2000>>Cingular>>AT&T. If anything this backhaul thing is an improvement in my area. I get good customer service, albeit with Enterprise Customer Care...and yes they still try to cram stuff I don't need at me. I think most sales peeps are like that. I just take it upon myself to withstand the onslaught. There have been times I have found stuff on my bill that I didn't want / believe I asked for. Just call them up, and they have retro'd my bill every time with usually no fuss, and usually an apology. I can be down with that. Due diligence and direct/firm/clear and not a-holish communication goes a long ways in my experience...
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One thing I forgot to mention. The great customer service
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I don't know why, but I like you. Haha
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I know why after looking at your post in that other thread a couple up from this one...
Your "blowy removed" is an instant cult classic.

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Agreed. And yours is $30 for 2gb? Here you get 2gb for $25, but I have unlimited and I havent seen my unlimited data being capped
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Yeah, $30 is how much they charge us for the 2gb plan around here, which is around the Memphis area. I've just got the $15 200mb data plan as I only use data on WiFi exclusively. You have the "true" unlimited that ATT used to have. Users who had the plan back in their iPhone days, prior to upgrading to the Inspire, won't see their unlimited data capped. I think they feel it would be bad business to cap the data of former and current iPhone users with the old unlimited data plan. Good thing you got it when they still offered it.
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The only reason I use ATT is because it works at every military base i've been to where other phone companies don't. That being said I will be jumping to verizon once my contract is up haha
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Want unlimited everything? Data, messaging, and calling? Read on

For this to work you must have a Samsung Galaxy S2 Skyrocket and be running on T-Mobiles 4G network. (If you don't know how to do that please know, there is a way to get 4G on this phone on T-Mobiles network if you have an unlocked device[you can get an unlock code on eBay] read around the threads) so let's get started.
So if you have this crazy awesome device your going to want the best for it right? And at amazing prices huh? Well to do that I reccomend doing the following join T-Mobiles Monthly 4G plan the $30 one. This is what it offers you...
-Unlimited data at 4G speeds but after 5GB's of usage your throttled down to 3G or Edge can't remember...
-Unlimited Text Messaging
-100 minutes
So why if its only 100 minutes why is the tread title saying I can get everything unlimited?
Well using the downloadable Skype app from the Google Play Store you can subscribe to one of there packages for unlimited minutes like the one that is $2.99 a month for unlimited US and Canada calling
*So at 4G speeds calling is perfect
And in total what does your monthly bill come to? $32.99 + tax WHOA! That beats the $100 a month crap!!! So I'm just here to share this with you guys and I hope you find it helpful and before you tell me I posted in the wrong place....I didn't. This is specifically for the Skyrocket...and well this thread is "skyrocket" so yeah. Enjoy!
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Good pointers although it isn't skyrocket specific.
If you want the same thing on rogers without using Skype, hit me up. I have access to unlimited voice plans.
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$100 a month is nuts, and I thought Rogers was expensive. I only have 200 min a month and never use 2 of them.

or you could use grooveIP and pay 4.99 once, after the first month at 34.99, you'd be at 30/month.

or u could just use bobsled and make calls for free lol.
45-50 dollar monthy is the best plan unlimited everything including minutes, i believe it has 2 gb unlimited data but you can bypass the data throttle with different apn settings.

Lemme know when you AT&T users can convince AT&T wireless to allow you to drop your minutes plan while till being able to retain our number, texting, and data. I'm at $100 per month as well (minus my 20% corporate discount) with the lowest minutes plan, unlimited texting, and unlimited 4G data.

My service provider is Tbaytel in canada, they are partnered woth rogers. For $50/mo. I get 200 daytime minutes, free evenings and wknds, unlim text, and 5gb of data (much more than i'll use in a month since wifi is so readily available.). I get this plan because I'm a "student" (which means I'm friends with the guy that works there.). Normally this plan would be $110, so I figure I'm not doing too shabby.
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I get 200 mins, nationwide my 10, unlimited messages/pic/video, call display, voicemail, vvm, evenings and weekend at 6, free Rogers one number services (Skype for free) and 6 gigs of data. $62. And then 40% off of that. My fiancee has the same plan. Our combined bill is about 75 or 80 bucks.
Oh, and they keep giving me this Rogers mobile TV thing that I never use.
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Anyone got any tips for someone traveling internationally? Att charges an arm and a leg to call text over seas.
Edit, maybe Google Voice? What would Google voice cost to text/call people in England while I'm in England, and to text/call people in the US while I'm in England?
Edit 2: gvoice doesn't accept international texts so that's out. But AT&T wants .99c a minute, and .50c a text. Which is insane. I could unlock my phone and go with a local gsm provider, but even local providers will charge me more for texting back to the US. Any other suggestions that don't need data? Can I forward my US gvoice number to an English phone. So text/calling to the US is free, and then use a prepaid local sim for local stuff?
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Buy a Skype international calling plan there probably 3-5 dollars for England. And for texting use a texting app over wifi or 2G/3G/4G
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Rehab4Life said:
For this to work you must have a Samsung Galaxy S2 Skyrocket and be running on T-Mobiles 4G network. (If you don't know how to do that please know, there is a way to get 4G on this phone on T-Mobiles network if you have an unlocked device[you can get an unlock code on eBay] read around the threads) so let's get started.
So if you have this crazy awesome device your going to want the best for it right? And at amazing prices huh? Well to do that I reccomend doing the following join T-Mobiles Monthly 4G plan the $30 one. This is what it offers you...
-Unlimited data at 4G speeds but after 5GB's of usage your throttled down to 3G or Edge can't remember...
-Unlimited Text Messaging
-100 minutes
So why if its only 100 minutes why is the tread title saying I can get everything unlimited?
Well using the downloadable Skype app from the Google Play Store you can subscribe to one of there packages for unlimited minutes like the one that is $2.99 a month for unlimited US and Canada calling
*So at 4G speeds calling is perfect
And in total what does your monthly bill come to? $32.99 + tax WHOA! That beats the $100 a month crap!!! So I'm just here to share this with you guys and I hope you find it helpful and before you tell me I posted in the wrong place....I didn't. This is specifically for the Skyrocket...and well this thread is "skyrocket" so yeah. Enjoy!
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Just called Tmobile and tried to do this.... They only have the 500 minute per month plan with unlimited talk and text which is 69.99 .... nothing else.... so there goes that 32.99 idea!

mznatnat said:
Just called Tmobile and tried to do this.... They only have the 500 minute per month plan with unlimited talk and text which is 69.99 .... nothing else.... so there goes that 32.99 idea!
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Nooo. To do it you order a sum off there website 2 dollars and but a 30 dollar card at Walmart or best buy and activate it through there.
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For those of us not covered by T-Mobile, you can also look into StraightTalk. They've recently offered a "bring your own device" service, where you purchase the sim, and can use any device.
$45+tax gets you unlimited calling, text, and data. (Although I've heard about a 3GB soft cap on the data)
Nice part is that you can either Select AT&T or T-Mobile as your carrier. You just tell them which SIM you want when ordering. Put in the APN from their website, and you are good to go. They even allow you to port your number.
[Edit] Since I can't post links, just go to straighttalksim[dot]com
Of course it's prepaid with no contract. You can use the "auto refill" option on their website so you never run out of credit..but who cares since it's unlimited anyway. Worth a look if you own the phone and don't want to pay $100 for service.

I unlocked my skyrocket and got a Tmobile Sim, however I am only getting edge in a 4g area. How do I get 4g?
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Figured it out, needed a T989 modem. However, 1 thing the OP left out is, that plan of 100 min, unlimited Web and unlimited txt is only valid for phones purchased from Walmart. You can't get a Sim from Tmobile store or their website, has to be from Walmart with one of Tmobile's pay as you go phones.
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SalTNutz said:
Figured it out, needed a T989 modem. However, 1 thing the OP left out is, that plan of 100 min, unlimited Web and unlimited txt is only valid for phones purchased from Walmart. You can't get a Sim from Tmobile store or their website, has to be from Walmart with one of Tmobile's pay as you go phones.
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Well then there lying cuz this is what I did. I bought a Skyrocket 4G off of craigslist unlocked it using a eBay unlock code. And bought a t mobile sim off of there website hers the link it has to be the T-Mobile Monthly 4G Activation Kit http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-phone/T-Mobile-Prepaid-SIM-Activation-Kit its $1 right now and has like $3 Inside. So its pretty much free. When you get it you activate your phone with that.

This plan has been discussed on slick deals for I think over a year now. Tmobile 3G and 4G is essentially the same thing. You will be throttled to edge after 5gb. Also you need to buy the sim online NOT in store to activate online. Else you will need to call and specifically request this plan, only new customers are eligible.
For a full proof quick turn around, get the cheapest phone at walmart and sign up for this plan and switch the sim into your phone.
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This has been angering me for two days. Been to three different walmarts and cant find the $30 dollar activation card everyone is talking about.
Edit- Finally figured that out. I was also only getting edge. I tried flashing a T989 modem, and still only get edge. hmmm. Wondering if I didnt waste my money.