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does anyone know the max sd card transfer speed of the pad, and the dock?
i am looking at a 128GB SDXC card (yes, its a lot, but this is replacing a dead laptop for the foreseeable future) , UHS-1 60mb/s, or a 45mb/s one. will the UHS card actually have any benefits in the dock, or simply when transfering data to it from the PC.
many thanks!
I'm currently running a Class 10 (200x) 32 GB SDHC in the dock, branded Dane-Elec. Runs fine. I don't know if it takes 32+ GB cards, though... And to be honest, while heavily dependent on what you actually do with it, for most purposes a high-speed card should suffice...
ishamm said:
does anyone know the max sd card transfer speed of the pad, and the dock?
i am looking at a 128GB SDXC card (yes, its a lot, but this is replacing a dead laptop for the foreseeable future) , UHS-1 60mb/s, or a 45mb/s one. will the UHS card actually have any benefits in the dock, or simply when transfering data to it from the PC.
many thanks!
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I'm currently using two Sandisk cards:
- microSD class 10 30MBps SDHC Ultra (16GB)
- full SD class 10 SDHC Extreme 45MBps in the docking station (32GB)
They get better speeds than the built-in disk, but it is still not great. It seems to be about 15-18Mbps write for SD, 6Mbps write for microSD and 30-32Mbps read for both (as compared to 12/18 of the internal memory).
The fastest way of moving data still seems to be external USB HDD...
Hope this helps, haven't tried any other yet. I have tried both FAT32 and NTFS though. They seem to give similar results (I had no problems using NTFS on my SD card so far, which is a good sign).
d14b0ll0s said:
I'm currently using two Sandisk cards:
- microSD class 10 30MBps SDHC Ultra (16GB)
- full SD class 10 SDHC Extreme 45MBps in the docking station (32GB)
They get better speeds than the built-in disk, but it is still not great. It seems to be about 15-18Mbps write for SD, 6Mbps write for microSD and 30-32Mbps read for both (as compared to 12/18 of the internal memory).
The fastest way of moving data still seems to be external USB HDD...
Hope this helps, haven't tried any other yet. I have tried both FAT32 and NTFS though. They seem to give similar results (I had no problems using NTFS on my SD card so far, which is a good sign).
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I haven't used an external drive yet, but I agree with the observation that the transfer speed is not optimal, no matter what card I plug in (I have transplanted a few I normally use in my DSLR just for testing; they are all fast cards, as you can imagine). I transferred several documentaries and a lot of photographs yesterday evening and it took ages, mainly due to the fact that the transfer process hangs up the entire device (!) regularly. It seems to happen after about 70 to 80 MB are read into (temporary?) memory and apparently are only then buffered out to the main storage. Let's hope a custom ROM can straighten this issue out...
Thanks. Given these figures, would you install apps on the main memory, if a 30mbps rated micro sd for best performance?
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Thanks. Given these figures, would you install apps on the main memory, if a 30mbps rated micro sd for best performance?
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In my case internal memory is faster than microSD. You don't really have the option, unless you play with the filesystem and mount your MicroSD on /mnt/sdcard instead of /Removable/MicroSD. In the Infinity /mnt/sdcard is just a folder within the internal memory by default (many apps use it though, so they had to arrange it this way). I don't think there is any reason to change this, as internal memory seems faster and that's whole 64GB of it (OK, maybe 56 available, but still a lot..).
Perfect thanks, I thought though that there were current issues with I/O speeds until someone could fix it in a Rom. Or has this been addressed in the new firmware?
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Perfect thanks, I thought though that there were current issues with I/O speeds until someone could fix it in a Rom. Or has this been addressed in the new firmware?
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Hopefully I could tell you in a few days, but honestly I don't think it has (can't try it out yet, as the firmware released is Taiwanese version, and I'm on the World-Wide).
The Infinity is not that far behind other new tablets or rather it's not only TF700's problem, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28416635&postcount=2842
However, after changing the scheduler to sio and doing some tweaks (see my post on it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1758160), it's running pretty smoothly (unless you want to do a lot of CPU-heavy jobs while having huge reads or writes in the background, in this case it can get frustrating, but.. there is no real alternative these days).
d14b0ll0s said:
Hopefully I could tell you in a few days, but honestly I don't think it has (can't try it out yet, as the firmware released is Taiwanese version, and I'm on the World-Wide).
The Infinity is not that far behind other new tablets or rather it's not only TF700's problem, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28416635&postcount=2842
However, after changing the scheduler to sio and doing some tweaks (see my post on it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1758160), it's running pretty smoothly (unless you want to do a lot of CPU-heavy jobs while having huge reads or writes in the background, in this case it can get frustrating, but.. there is no real alternative these days).
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This. As i've ranted earlier, the new firmware provides fixes for camera issues, not for the I/O the TF700 so obviously suffers from. Having said that, it is not like the tablet in itself is useless as it is -- far from it -- but remains a mystery to me why they didn't spot this in advance (like with the Prime's issues with GPS and wifi), It seems like ASUS develops a device by letting several teams work onindividual components, and, when they get their specific part up and running, just put it together and relese it. I have a distinct feeling that neither device was actually and properly tested.
But, still, I'm pretty happy with the device overall.
I think you need to read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1767755
From what I see my UHS-1 card that doesn't work is initialized as DDR which means the max speed for the TF700T µSD is 50 MB/s (as that is the only DDR speed).
The full size SD socket uses a USB host so the big question is is it USB 2.0 or 3.0!
All specifications says USB 2.0 for the dock, so I would assume that's correct, even for the TF700 dock.
Asus has finally responded that there is limited UHS-1 support in the µSD slot.
For now you are better off not trying UHS-1 in there. The may come up with a patch...
external memory limits
ishamm said:
does anyone know the max sd card transfer speed of the pad, and the dock?
i am looking at a 128GB SDXC card (yes, its a lot, but this is replacing a dead laptop for the foreseeable future) , UHS-1 60mb/s, or a 45mb/s one. will the UHS card actually have any benefits in the dock, or simply when transfering data to it from the PC.
many thanks!
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Careful there with a 128gig card, I read somewhere that there is a 32 gig upperlimit on recognizing cards and sticks...
tho I do wonder if you formatted it into enough partitions it might read them all?
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Careful there with a 128gig card, I read somewhere that there is a 32 gig upperlimit on recognizing cards and sticks...
tho I do wonder if you formatted it into enough partitions it might read them all?
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If the dock uses a sdhc compatible controller and simply exposes the card as a mass storage device for the system, then there is really no such limit. The SDXC cards which supports >32GB does so due to the SD's FAT specification not for actual addressing and such.
SDXC cards are accessible as SDHC but standard specifies ExFat as default filesystem. This may not work on units not compatible with ExFat, but a reformat will fix that. In the TF700T's case we have already seen users use 64 GB cards breaking that 32GB barrier.
We have also seen the TF700T mount ExFat, although it seems to fallback to NTFS.
The thing he should be carefull of is UHS in the µSD socket as it's still wonky.
In the dock I suspect a UHS card will simply be treated as a normal SDHC card, but UHS cards usually have better class speeds so may be a benefit even with the dock doing USB2.0 hosting.
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To back up my claims see here...
http://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2520/~/sd/sdhc/sdxc-specifications-and-compatibility
Well just ordered this
Lexar Professional 400x 128 GB SDXC
from amazon for less than $140, seems like a good deal, hope it holds up to 1080p movies
I have the same SD card and playing 1080 mkvs on it with Dice and BS Player are no problem at all, love the massive storage space. Just one caveat though, I tried copying the entire card over to a windows 7 machine and the Infinity rebooted, so there's still and issue with large file transfers that I hope JB will take care of. In any case welcome to the max storage club
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I have the same SD card and playing 1080 mkvs on it with Dice and BS Player are no problem at all, love the massive storage space. Just one caveat though, I tried copying the entire card over to a windows 7 machine and the Infinity rebooted, so there's still and issue with large file transfers that I hope JB will take care of. In any case welcome to the max storage club
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Awesome, that is what I wanted to hear
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Strange thing, put it into the dock and nothing
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cragains said:
Strange thing, put it into the dock and nothing
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Have you used a card in the dock before? The ribbon cable wasn't completely connected in mine.
All new tablet and dock, I had to insert in a few times, but nothing.
So I power down, and let it fully charge.
Powered on with dock, tried it again.
Wham....WORKS!!!!!
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Glad you got it all sorted out, I already have mine half filled with various anime lol
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Glad you got it all sorted out, I already have mine half filled with various anime lol
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Really, I am getting there. Just finished Baccano, and Ergo Proxy, now I'm watching Ghost in the machine. What do you watch?
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Love the opening to Baccano, it's so god damn catchy lol. Right now I'm getting through the massive first season of Sket Dance, AKB0048, and Moyashimon. As you can tell I have a pretty eclectic taste lol. I sprung for the crunchyroll premium account too and it's nice, but the app sadly doesn't output 1080p streams yet although they keep saying it's in the works. Thankfully I can still access the Hi-def streams through flash
Does it work with the device it self or through the dock ?
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Mr.Droid said:
Does it work with the device it self or through the dock ?
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Well the tablet doesn't have an SD card slot, only microSD. However,
It works perfect with the dock
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psych2l said:
I have the same SD card and playing 1080 mkvs on it with Dice and BS Player are no problem at all, love the massive storage space. Just one caveat though, I tried copying the entire card over to a windows 7 machine and the Infinity rebooted, so there's still and issue with large file transfers that I hope JB will take care of. In any case welcome to the max storage club
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Was copying from 32GB samsung micro to the Lexar 128GB on the Transformer Infinity (stock) and it rebooted after transferring about 4GB of 15GB of data. Might have something to do with the fact that the Lexar comes formatted exFat and not NTFS. Could be a tablet I/O issue.
I dont have my 2TB portable HHD to test the transferring abilities of the Lexar using a Windows 7 laptop system, but It will be the next thing I test the Lexar with.
(Formatted the Lexar NTFS)
(Will copy a 8-15GB 1080p movie, and see if the Infinity can handle it)
I thought ExFat let you work past the 4GB Total memory card size limitation, but not the >4GB "single file" size limitation, if im right you will only be able to copy a bigger than 4GB file onto an NTFS format disk.
No, exFAT allows file sizes MUCH larger than 4 GB. Theoretically 16 EiB, in practice "only" about 128 PiB since the current implementation only uses a 32 bit FAT which limits the maximum volume size to ~128 PiB.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT#cite_note-NB_Size_File-0
People have had issues with copying large files to the internal storage as well, so it's most likely a (file system) driver issue. Could be memory leakage or just hardcoded file size limits (wouldn't surprise me...) causing a buffer overflow. An unhandled fault at driver level = reboot/lock up (usually).
I currently have 1 Samsung 32 MicroSD in the tablet and another via an SD-adapter in the dock, both in exFAT so I could use +4gig files.
My Infinity reboots when transferring to either card via Win7 (big files). However, transferring to the internal storage gives no problems (albeit slow). Moving files from internal to either of the cards via Win7 makes it reboot too. So I filled both cards directly instead of leaving them in the Infinity.
I have used exFAT as it was stated here somewhere NTFS could give problems.. Well, exFAT isn't working great, either.. I'm going to try and see what happens in NTFS but I guess it will be the same story..
Anyway, I think it's a firmware/software issue, hopefully Asus fixes it (or JB)
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I currently have 1 Samsung 32 MicroSD in the tablet and another via an SD-adapter in the dock, both in exFAT so I could use +4gig files.
My Infinity reboots when transferring to either card via Win7 (big files). However, transferring to the internal storage gives no problems (albeit slow). Moving files from internal to either of the cards via Win7 makes it reboot too. So I filled both cards directly instead of leaving them in the Infinity.
I have used exFAT as it was stated here somewhere NTFS could give problems.. Well, exFAT isn't working great, either.. I'm going to try and see what happens in NTFS but I guess it will be the same story..
Anyway, I think it's a firmware/software issue, hopefully Asus fixes it (or JB)
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I believe I have my 32GB micro, and 128GB SD cards formatted as NTFS and haven't had this problem since then. Of coarse I flashed a custom ROM to the infinity, which has helped maximize its potential.
It boggles my mind that I paid $650 for a tablet+dock that has so many quirks, and issues. Like light bleed from the side, minimal as it may be.
Although, I was playing dead trigger, and shadowgun last night using a micro HDMI cable hooked up to my 1080p HP monitor, and a USB 360 controller, and I was AMAZED at the quality and frame rate of the tablet...
I'm going to do some tests, with my new laptop and see if I get that random reboot during file transfer (Using a 24GB 1080p movie)
I have ordered also the SD Card... SO mutch cheaper then in Netherlands
Amazon 154 euro. Local store prices between 300 a 350euro.
I have format a other SD card with HFS+ filesystem. Installed Paragon NTF/HFS+ from Google Play.
Mount and go with the flow..
You can copy files lager then 4GB on a HFS+ formatted sd card
160bpm said:
I have ordered also the SD Card... SO mutch cheaper then in Netherlands
Amazon 154 euro. Local store prices between 300 a 350euro.
I have format a other SD card with HFS+ filesystem. Installed Paragon NTF/HFS+ from Google Play.
Mount and go with the flow..
You can copy files lager then 4GB on a HFS+ formatted sd card
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I use ntfs with BSPlayer and never have anymore issues playing movies, have the micro HDMI hooked into my 1080p monitor...everything is flawless...
Never heard of HFS+..
Any benifits to this file system over ntfs?
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HFS+ is the default file system used in OS X, you'd need drivers to get it to work under Windows. Stick with NTFS (or exFAT) if you're primarily a Windows user
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HFS+ is the default file system used in OS X, you'd need drivers to get it to work under Windows. Stick with NTFS (or exFAT) if you're primarily a Windows user
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Ah...that I am, and will do thanks
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Hey guys. I rarely begin threads, and I hope this is in the right place, but what would be the plausibility of putting a new ssd into our tablet? What size would we use in the tablet or would we have to order a custom size?
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Hey guys. I rarely begin threads, and I hope this is in the right place, but what would be the plausibility of putting a new ssd into our tablet? What size would we use in the tablet or would we have to order a custom size?
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The internal storage is an eMMC, soldered onto the mainboard. You can only use a microSD card with the data2sd mod.
I am not sure how easliy it would be possible to perform the task, however I know it would probably easier to just buy a http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...oogleMKP&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleMKP-_-pla-_-NA-_-NA or http://www.lexar.com/node/5235. I dont know if you currently have or use the keyboard dock and what size internal SSD you have but this would give you up to 385 GB of on board storage. I dont know what you may need more storage then that for, but I know there are far easier options to tote around a lot of data then by risking going into your tablet and trying to upgrade the internal SSD,heck you can even plug and external HDD or SDD into the tablet through USB with or with out the keyboard dock needed. I hope I didn't put to much non sense down, just trying to help out a fellow XDA Member.
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Hey guys. I rarely begin threads, and I hope this is in the right place, but what would be the plausibility of putting a new ssd into our tablet? What size would we use in the tablet or would we have to order a custom size?
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TF700T mainboard
Here's a link to the mainboard showing the major components with the Hynix surrounded by green.
You can see it's mass produced circuitry.
Not saying it's impossible, yet it would be close to un-doable.
The pic is from the iFixit website.
Hey everyone I had a question. Does anyone have issues with lack of storage or is 16 or 32 enough? I'm wanting this phone but im wondering if the lack of SD card will be ok. Thanks everyone.
Space required is your personal preference.
its all up to your personal needs, i skipped n4 for the 32gig n5 and honestly i haven't used up anything more than 20gigs of my phone. Heavy gamer so i needed the space, also I do use my phone as an entertainment hub instead of a communication device, tones of songs and 4-5 movies fill up my phone.
16 wasn't enough for me. 32 may have been OK.
I have the 16GB and a Meenova USB OTG micro-SD card reader. Works nicely with Lollipop so far. (I have StickMount Pro; not sure if it's necessary but I bought it for KitKat.)
How much space does lollipop take up on the phone?
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How much space does lollipop take up on the phone?
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It takes nothing out of storage. Storage refers to the /data partition. ROM sits in /system partition. They're fixed sizes so it.doesn't matter how.much lollipop takes up
If you genuinely want to.understand, you can go to sticky roll-up in my signature then look for the storage thread.
Ok will do, thanks a lot!
Hi everybody,
I open this thread because I'm desperate. The Galaxy S7 is my 4th Android device and I had a problem of corrupted photos at least with the 3 last devices. I bought the S7 partly with the hope of say goodbye to this fuc**** problem.
But here we are, I have the S7 since a month now and it gave me already tons of corrupted photos. On my previous Xpiera devices I use various AOSP ROM and now I use King ROM on my S7 and the problem frequency still exactly the same. (I was expecting a solution by using stock based ROM.)
Speaking of the problem, here is the descption of it:
- About 1 out of 20 times (to be nice) I got corrupted photos with a varible sized grey rectangle. (See 2nd picture enclosed)
- That's new with the S7: sometimes there is no grey rectangle but a big problem of colors. (See 1st picture enclosed - I just add blue rectangles over faces)
I hope you have ideas about my problem. :fingers-crossed:
I don't understand why this problem still persists over different devices. I also already tried few microSD card.
Don't hesitate to share any idea or ask me for details if you don't understand my average English.
Thanks in advance! :good:
Pretty weird... did you try shoot with selfiestick? I guess you`ve high EM field emitted by your hands.
P.S. I`m not kidding at all!
Have you tried a different ROM? formatted your phone and /data in TWRP?
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Pretty weird... did you try shoot with selfiestick? I guess you`ve high EM field emitted by your hands.
P.S. I`m not kidding at all!
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Hi and thanks for this (surprising) idea. I guess EM meanselectromagnetic.
I didn't have a selfiestick but I just tried to take photos with a big magnet next to my phone and all photos were ok. So EM doesn't seem to produce corrupted photos.
It's a ramdom bug, sometimes all is ok for almost few weeks and then (for example yesterday) I got 4 corrupted photos in the 15 photos I took.
There is some threads on internet where people complain about grey rectangles in there photos but nobody seems to found a solution.
I have to say that I'm a bit frustrated to pay over 500€ for a flagship smartphone and still have this kind of issues...
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Have you tried a different ROM? formatted your phone and /data in TWRP?
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I've also tied SuperMan ROM but I don't stay on it enougth time to test that.
I always format my phone(s) before flashing. I never make dirtyflash.
Did you switch to King ROM because stock gave you the same problems? If not, you might want to give stockTouchwiz a try
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Did you switch to King ROM because stock gave you the same problems? If not, you might want to give stockTouchwiz a try
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No I switched to Stock based Custom ROM because I just can't support Stock ROM.
It's not conceivable that I use the stock Samsung ROM daily, I prefer sell my phone than have to use this kind of heavy and no-functional ROM. I would prefer a AOSP based ROM but Samsung high end devices doesn't offer that.
Nevermind! :silly:
I sould try a stock ROM for a couple of days but no more. Maybe next weekend.
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No I switched to Stock based Custom ROM because I just can't support Stock ROM.
It's not conceivable that I use the stock Samsung ROM daily, I prefer sell my phone than have to use this kind of heavy and no-functional ROM. I would prefer a AOSP based ROM but Samsung high end devices doesn't offer that.
Nevermind! :silly:
I sould try a stock ROM for a couple of days but no more. Maybe next weekend.
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Allright, hopefully (in your case) it doesn't change anything and thus you won't have to switch to stoxk
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Are you using the same SD card in each device? It is possible that the card is causing the issues with the files.
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Are you using the same SD card in each device? It is possible that the card is causing the issues with the files.
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This is exactly what I thought.
Try to save the photos in phone memory, not in the external SD card and see if this still give you corrupted photos. If not, then the SD card is most likely corrupt (should not be repaired with just a format. Buy a new one instead)
Had exactly the same problem of corrupted images. Even worse, my phone just crashed on the gallery app, requiring reboot with power+volume down.
Remove the sd card. The sd card is causing it, either get a good new one, or use the internal memory of the phone.
Havn't had a corrupted image/video or crash since i removed it, and in general its faster too.
I used at least 3 different sd cards in my phones.
First I used a 16GB card with no precise specifications and I don't remember if I had this problem of corrupted pictures with this card.
Then I bought a 32GB Samsung card with (in theory) a reading speed of 70MB/s and a writing speed of 20MB/s. I used this card in my 2nd and 3rd phone and I get corrupted pictures with it.
Currently I use a Lexar 64GB card with real speeds of 43MB/s in reading and 36MB/s in writing. I used this card in my 3rd and 4th (the S7) phone and obviously I get corrupted pictures with it.
Did you think that the Lexar's speeds are too low?
It's strange because I can shoot over 100 pictures in burst mode or 4k video without any problem.
Concerning internal storage, I bought the S7 in part because I want to save my datas in external storage. I want to be able to get my datas even if I crash my phone.
So I will not adopt internal saving as a solution.
You're not using an aftermarket flip case with a magnetic latch on it are you?
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You're not using an aftermarket flip case with a magnetic latch on it are you?
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No I use a silicon case without magnet.
I just noticed that my Lexar 64GB card gives a reading speed of 41MB/s and a writing speed of 24MB/s when I use "A1 SD Bench" app. So my card seems slower in my phone than in my laptop benchmarck.
I don't think 24MB/s is realy too low but it is 10MB/s less than laptop benchmarck.
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So I will not adopt internal saving as a solution.
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Of cause not, but to narrow the problem you have to know if it has something to do with ROM, camera, SD card, etc.
At least you can try! Maybe after checking the files aer ok, you can move them to SD card. That would be another test if SD card works in the device. Maybe the connection is partly broken?
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Of cause not, but to narrow the problem you have to know if it has something to do with ROM, camera, SD card, etc.
At least you can try! Maybe after checking the files aer ok, you can move them to SD card. That would be another test if SD card works in the device. Maybe the connection is partly broken?
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Oh yes sorry I didn't understood your idea this way.
I just change the saving location setting, we will see what happen in next days. :good: