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Micro SD Problem VOX/S710

i've recently got my hands on a VOX/s710 phone
my last phone before this used micro SD cards, it was a nokia
when i try to put my nokia micro SD into my VOX, it doesnt recognize, but, as soon as i put it on a nokia, other phones like a palm, etc, it recognizes
is there a problem between nokia branded micro SD cards with HTC?
i tried another brand of micro SD and it worked perfectly
any ideas?
cheers

Initially I tried a NOKIA micro SD card with my Vox and it worked fine.

hum, tks for the reply
so no clues at what the problem might be?
guess if i dont resolve this, ill have to buy another micro SD card

May be, you give a try by formatting the card using a card reader from a Windows PC. That might help.

Yes, make a backup and format to FAT32 (also useful if you want to flash from sd card)! Then put your files back on the card and try again!

thanks for the tips
fortunately, i dont have any indispensable information on the microSD card, i didnt use it a lot, since it was a 1G card, and i had a 2G on my older nokia.
i'm going to try and format it and then post the result hopefully it will work
but since i dont have a memory card reader right now, im gonna try and put it on my old nokia, connect it to the pc and try to format it from there, or format it from inside the nokia phone.
ill figure out something
thanks again for the tips
cheers
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tks for the tip tryed it right now, and now its working fine
many thanks both of you for the help!

I have 2 GB microsd card installed. Is it possible to install a 4Gb card or more? Who tried? Does it support SDHC?
Funny thing, I've got an answer from htc support, they say 2Gb is the only possible amount supported

Katik said:
I have 2 GB microsd card installed. Is it possible to install a 4Gb card or more? Who tried? Does it support SDHC?
Funny thing, I've got an answer from htc support, they say 2Gb is the only possible amount supported
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I dont know exactly how to do it search the forum, but i know that there is a thread that says that partion 4gb (using WM5torage that thread tells how to) and then you can use it.

the vox supports SDHC microSD up to 8Gb, found this in www.pocketpc.ch (will post the link l8 when back on my pc).
i'm using a sandisk SDHC 4Gb fat32 formatted, works perfect! i will buy a 8Gb soon and post the results here .
edit: http://www.pocketpc.ch/htc-s710/39075-8-gb-micro-sd-htc-s710-moeglich.html the forum is in german there....

remembered to post this note, after fomarting the sd card, it worked well
just another question though, you guys are talking about 4 and 8 gigs sd cards
doesnt having a much bigger sd card slow down the phone? i've heard of such rumours but never got the chance to tested myself, and since i'm willing to make a sd upgrade i would like to know if its better to stick with a 1 gig or 2 gigs sd card, or i can go ahead and get a 4 or 8 gigs?
cheers

so, finally i bought this fine 8Gb microSDHC from sandisk, and i works just perfect.
artilheiro.mz said:
just another question though, you guys are talking about 4 and 8 gigs sd cards
doesnt having a much bigger sd card slow down the phone? i've heard of such rumours but never got the chance to tested myself, and since i'm willing to make a sd upgrade i would like to know if its better to stick with a 1 gig or 2 gigs sd card, or i can go ahead and get a 4 or 8 gigs?
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i never tried with a 1 or 2Gb card, so there i cannot say. but on the otherhand i did not remark an diffrence of speed with the 4 or 8Gb card, they're just as fast as usual (in cellular device or in pc with cardreader). the only thing i can say, is that cards from cheap(er) brands are always slower than cards from quality brands (such as sandisk, as example). and also SDHC cards should always be faster than 1 or 2Gb cards, because they have a newer controllers (not 100% sure about this point, i think i might have read that in c't).
i hope i could help a little bit...

Dang, 8GB cards work without driver patching? That is champion. I'll be ordering myself one soon.

Yep, can confirm 8gb card works fine, have had one in mine for some months now...
Now what about 16gb? was that article written before 16's were available even the sandisk site seems to be out of date saying nokias that are supposed to support 16's only support 8?
anyone actually confirmed 16's don't work?

Katik said:
I have 2 GB microsd card installed. Is it possible to install a 4Gb card or more? Who tried? Does it support SDHC?
Funny thing, I've got an answer from htc support, they say 2Gb is the only possible amount supported
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well, i am using a Sandisk 4GB micro Sd without any problems.

@ zarn:
have a look at General discussion > Accessories > 16 and 32GB MicroSDHC test
JayRayMee.NL said:
16GB will be available in Q4.
32GB somewhere in the first half of next year.
Pricing unknown, but I guess that 16GB will have an intro price of something like € 100,00.
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i guess we have to wait some time to test it
at work, some weeks ago, i discussed this with a dev. and he meant that from the hardware side it should be no problem, but maybe the driver needs to be updated. i'm not sure, but as i know the driver adds support for sdhc, no matter of the size of the card. he's not a sys dev, he does apps and branding, i'm only test-ex and advanved user, so correct me if i'm wrong (i'm still learning ).
edit: found following on http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-sdhc-cards.htm
The new 2.00 specification should last a bit longer, as it allows SDHC cards to reach a maximum capacity of 32GB.
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so i think, if the device supports that specification (and the vox does), it should support cards up to 32Gb.
and again some info about speed:
The SDHC specification 2.00 calls for cards to be classified according to the minimal sustained DTS as follows:
Class 2: minimum sustained DTS of 2MB/sec
Class 4: minimum sustained DTS of 4MB/sec
Class 6: minimum sustained DTS of 6MB/sec
SDHC cards are classified to guarantee a specific sustained DTS. This potentially saves consumers money, as flash cards are priced not only according to capacity, but also to speed. For example, if a product's maximum DTS is 2MB/sec, dishing out extra cash for Class 4 or Class 6 SDHC cards would be a waste of money. Conversely, devices that can utilize the 4MB/sec or 6MB/sec DTR (i guess the author meant DTS, kel187) will perform significantly better with Class 4 or Class 6 SDHC cards, respectively.
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my 4Gb card is Class 2 and my 8Gb is Class 4. i did not recognized any diffrences in speed advantages, neither on the mobile nor on the pc. so the vox and my cardreader must be class 2 devices, what a pitty ^^

Class and micro sdhc cards?

How much does class speed matter for a smart phone. I was under the impression that it's mainly important for video capture and photography (when using a digital camera).
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There is no requirement or restriction on this. Anything microSD or microSD HC will work. Recommended is to get class 2 or better card in order to achieve better speeds when copying stuff from/to phone via USB in disk drive mode.
However under 'anything' do not assume you should go and get the cheapest ever card you find on eBay or something - if card isn't functioning good, phone may experience wired behaviour like resets/etc. Get something recognizable (SanDisk, Kingston, etc).
Some video camcorders require certain class+ card in order to keep up with HD recording bandwidth required. Since D2G can't even shoot 720p, even slowest card will be ok. Not that 720p would have required more...

leobg said:
There is no requirement or restriction on this....
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Leo are you certain it will take ClassIII memory? It makes sense just not sure the hardware did that.
to the OQ - If they come out with a newer class there might be a compatibility issue with the phone but XDA folks usually finds away to support them soon after via a patch.
Stay away from old legacy (Not Classed) SD cards. Go for the fastest and largest you can afford.
Android rely's much more on the SDcard than WM ever did.

the phone should support up to class 6 (or whatever is the highest class) just fine, class just means the speed of the card, the d2g supports any class micro sd card up to 32gb in size, so as long as you dont exceed that, youre fine. the speed of the card could be a factor for programs that cache to your sd card, youd want a faster sd card if you plan to have programs do that.

I am pretty sure the class is backwards compatible. Kinda like USB 2.0 and 1.0. Its going to use the fastest the device is capable of using. I think it's more the size limits (In the case of android, 32gb) that matters. Granted, I could be mistaken.

Anyone got a UHS-1 microSD card working?

I've been at it back and forth with Asus and SanDisk support now as I have yet to get my SanDisk Mobile Ultra 32GB UHS-1 card to work properly in the TF700T.
First card worked erratically and died completely, second card doesn't work at all.
The log of the tablet sais read errors but the card work perfectly in both PC and android mobile (x10 Mini).
Tablet sais it's DDR so I assume it uses DDR50 mode which is the most complicated mode to use due to the data timing.
Has anybody else got a UHS-1 card and had it work reliably in the TF700T ?
When mine was working I was getting sporadic read errors causing copy file from card to device to fail, and video to stutter.
(File copy was aborted by "paste files failed" message.)
These cards would offer much improved io performance vs a normal card and their improved latency should make em improve responsetime too.

I popped by a shop today and tested the UHS-1 card in a TF300 too. It got a hissyfit and went into a mount-loop.
Bought a SanDisk FCS-HS3 UHS-1 compatible USB3.0 reader to test the card on a pc and it performs great. (Well writes are within class 10 spec, and reads are fantastic.) See attached Atto run.
Also got a 32 GB Class 10 Lexar card to see how the TF700 likes it. No problems and everything seems smooth.

I have Sandisk Ultra Micro SD SDHC UHS-I 16GB Class 10 30MB/s and it's been working fine so far, it even rescued me when I needed a firmware update after bootloop, only with lower write speeds than SD, USB disk or internal memory (somehow I get somewhere near ~10/20 W/R on internal and ~20/10 on SD, pendrive, USB HDD etc., btw, seems a bit strange to me, as I would expect it the other way around).

d14b0ll0s said:
I have Sandisk Ultra Micro SD SDHC UHS-I 16GB Class 10 30MB/s and it's been working fine so far, it even rescued me when I needed a firmware update after bootloop, only with lower write speeds than SD, USB disk or internal memory (somehow I get somewhere near ~10/20 W/R on internal and ~20/10 on SD, pendrive, USB HDD etc., btw, seems a bit strange to me, as I would expect it the other way around).
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That sounds like how my first card performed. Not fast.
I wish the SD test apps could show a graph like HD Tune on pc. To see how smoothly the card operates.
I know that any errors are masked by android and it resets card and continues thus making a card that hang all the time just appear slow.

tha_kreature said:
That sounds like how my first card performed. Not fast.
I wish the SD test apps could show a graph like HD Tune on pc. To see how smoothly the card operates.
I know that any errors are masked by android and it resets card and continues thus making a card that hang all the time just appear slow.
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It is not about UHS-1 though, I get the same with USB pendrive or HDD.

This is the same test on the same card in a NON UHS-1 reader.
As you can see the readings are drastically different.

tha_kreature said:
This is the same test on the same card in a NON UHS-1 reader.
As you can see the readings are drastically different.
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Sorry if I'm missing something, but on your screenshot I see 19 MB/s read and 9,5 MB/s write on average on your PC, so how is that different from what we were discussing as the speeds we were getting on the tablet?
Edit: I see your earlier post showing 40+ MB/s read speeds, but this was USB 3.0, wasn't it.
Edit: I forgot we were discussing microSD speeds. If you get 19/10 on your PC, this is in fact 50% more than I'm getting with microSD on the Infinity. It surely shows a major difference.

d14b0ll0s said:
Sorry if I'm missing something, but on your screenshot I see 19 MB/s read and 9,5 MB/s write on average on your PC, so how is that different from what we were discussing as the speeds we were getting on the tablet?
Edit: I see your earlier post showing 40+ MB/s read speeds, but this was USB 3.0, wasn't it.
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Yes, USB3.0 with a reader using UHS-1. The UHS-1 is the most important part as that increases the bandwidth between controller and card and also reduces some delays on completion etc.
On the tablet I was getting good speeds and then pauses/breaks getting the average very low on old card. Log showed errors. New card doesn't even mount.
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It does however show how the tablet is trying to moungt it and what speed it talks to it, also what capability it has.
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USB 2.0 can do 40 MB/s too btw, but usually max 30-35. The UHS-1 makes the difference.

For bigger data transfers I'm actually relying more on full-size SD card in the dock or USB disk. Which is of course a possibility only if one is carrying a dock..
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Yes, there is no question we have the lags to blame. My microSD writing speeds start with 30-35 MB/s for a few seconds (which is a lot more than I'm getting on my laptop with this card), then the lags make it drop even to 6 MB/s. So these are all the I/O issues we were discussing in so many threads here. Not much will come out of further benchmarks until we get an update (JB / kernel / smaller firmware fixes / hopefully anything)

d14b0ll0s said:
For bigger data transfers I'm actually relying more on full-size SD card in the dock or USB disk. Which is of course a possibility only if one is carrying a dock..
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Untill the 17'th I won't have access to any docs...
Attached is a shot of the dmesg output from where it detects the card.
Notice it registers it as a ultra high speed DDR SDHC. DDR must mean it is considering using the UHS mode DDR50 which is a complicated mode requiring calibration. It also seems to assume/try NTFS first.
I can't see any attempts of uing card in normal SDHC mode after the UHS failing, nor any normal non DDR UHS modes.

d14b0ll0s said:
For bigger data transfers I'm actually relying more on full-size SD card in the dock or USB disk. Which is of course a possibility only if one is carrying a dock..
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Yes, there is no question we have the lags to blame. My microSD writing speeds start with 30-35 MB/s for a few seconds (which is a lot more than I'm getting on my laptop with this card), then the lags make it drop even to 6 MB/s. So these are all the I/O issues we were discussing in so many threads here. Not much will come out of further benchmarks until we get an update (JB / kernel / smaller firmware fixes / hopefully anything)
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I'd like you to scour your dmesg log after one of those glitches, and also after inserting the card to see if there is any significant difference.
My card dipped in speed but usually did not log errors. I think the first retry is not logged if successfull.

tha_kreature said:
I'd like you to scour your dmesg log after one of those glitches, and also after inserting the card to see if there is any significant difference.
My card dipped in speed but usually did not log errors. I think the first retry is not logged if successfull.
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I don't get any errors after (re)inserting the card apart from those from tntfs saying the boot sector is invalid, so it's quitting after finding out this is not NTFS (because it is FAT32 ;>).
Tell me what errors do you get specifically, so I could grep my logs looking for them.

d14b0ll0s said:
I don't get any errors after (re)inserting the card apart from those from tntfs saying the boot sector is invalid, so it's quitting after finding out this is not NTFS (because it is FAT32 ;>).
Tell me what errors do you get specifically, so I could grep my logs looking for them.
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See my attached pic.
See how it identifys card ans ultra high speed ddr.

tha_kreature said:
See my attached pic.
See how it identifys card ans ultra high speed ddr.
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Sorry, I missed the last post on the previous page.
Doesn't look good, I don't get any of these in my logs apart from the NTFS assumption, which might be the normal thing (a late attempt to solve the NTFS compatibility issues).
I would try sio if I were you.
Mine doesn't say anything about ultra speed DDR SDHC however, it only gives the "new high speed SDHC card" output..
I'm not sure what you mean by saying that it doesn't treat it as SDHC afterwards - where would you want to have it reported?

d14b0ll0s said:
Sorry, I missed the last post on the previous page.
Doesn't look good, I don't get any of these in my logs apart from the NTFS assumption, which might be the normal thing (a late attempt to solve the NTFS compatibility issues).
I would try sio if I were you.
Mine doesn't say anything about ultra speed DDR SDHC however, it only gives the "new high speed SDHC card" output..
I'm not sure what you mean by saying that it doesn't treat it as SDHC afterwards - where would you want to have it reported?
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Your card works as it does not infact support UHS-1. It's probably one of the "Ultra" cards not "Ultra UHS-1".
The difference is a small U on the card with a 1 in it. (See attached.)
Sandisk has the same card in identical packaging, except for the UHS-1 support. The difference is drastic on PC, and apparantly catastrophic on TF700T and TF300.

See my logs attached.
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tha_kreature said:
Your card works as it does not infact support UHS-1. It's probably one of the "Ultra" cards not "Ultra UHS-1".
The difference is a small U on the card with a 1 in it. (See attached.)
Sandisk has the same card in identical packaging, except for the UHS-1 support. The difference is drastic on PC, and apparantly catastrophic on TF700T and TF300.
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In fact, mine is not UHS-I, but regular SDHC, sorry about misinforming you, I was initially thinking about getting the one you got yourself and then misclicked on the auction, LOL, I can see it now, bummer! I think it's even class 4, not class 10 (how much slower can it be because of it?). My full-size SD in the dock is UHS-1 and it's been performing well (Sandisk Extreme 32 GB 45 MB/s class 10).

d14b0ll0s said:
See my logs attached.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda app-developers app
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Thanks. Definately a non UHS card.
So far I've found or read about Sandisk Ultra in these flavour:
- Sandisk Ultra XXGB Class 6
- Sandisk Ultra XXGB Class 10
- Sandisk Ultra XXGB Class 10 UHS-1
- Sandisk Mobile Ultra XXGB Class 6
- Sandisk Mobile Ultra XXGB Class 10
- Sandisk Mobile Ultra XXGB Class 10 UHS-1
The packaging on my card sais SanDisk Mobile Ultra but the card sais only SanDisk Ultra. (First card said Mobile Ultra.)
It's really odd how there is always differences on pics I find.

tha_kreature said:
Thanks. Definately a non UHS card.
So far I've found or read about Sandisk Ultra in these flavour:
- Sandisk Ultra XXGB Class 6
- Sandisk Ultra XXGB Class 10
- Sandisk Ultra XXGB Class 10 UHS-1
- Sandisk Mobile Ultra XXGB Class 6
- Sandisk Mobile Ultra XXGB Class 10
- Sandisk Mobile Ultra XXGB Class 10 UHS-1
The packaging on my card sais SanDisk Mobile Ultra but the card sais only SanDisk Ultra. (First card said Mobile Ultra.)
It's really odd how there is always differences on pics I find.
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Yeah, mine is not ultra, terrible miss-click. I will use it in the phone probably and will order UHS-I class 10, unless others report same problems as yours.

d14b0ll0s said:
In fact, mine is not UHS-I, but regular SDHC, sorry about misinforming you, I was initially thinking about getting the one you got yourself and then misclicked on the auction, LOL, I can see it now, bummer! I think it's even class 4, not class 10 (how much slower can it be because of it?). My full-size SD in the dock is UHS-1 and it's been performing well (Sandisk Extreme 32 GB 45 MB/s class 10).
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Could you insert it and check the log?
See if it does anything different on it vs the other?
Unless it has any U on it it will probably only do standard SD speed of 50 MHz givingv 25 MB/s max datarate.

Keyboard Dock Memory: MicroSD with Adapter vs Straight SD?

I have a new TF700T with the Keyboard/Dock, and am wanting to pretty much max out its storage capacity in preparation for an upcoming trip (photography).
I realize that the Tablet itself requires MicroSD. I'm actually looking at this one:
Sandisk 64gb MicroSDXC Class 10
The Dock will obviously take a straight SD card, or a MicroSD card using the SD adapter. Is one of these ways any better as far as performance and reliability? I want to maximize read/write speeds.
I've also read enough threads here and elsewhere to see that this device is finicky with regard to which cards it'll work with, which formatting will be accepted and seen, etc. Any thoughts/experience in terms of which 64gb SD and/or MicroSD work best would be appreciated. And I understand that the higher the Class, theoretically the faster read/write speeds, but in an imperfect world, this isn't always the case, especially with this somewhat quirky device.

DLCPhoto said:
I have a new TF700T with the Keyboard/Dock, and am wanting to pretty much max out its storage capacity in preparation for an upcoming trip (photography).
I realize that the Tablet itself requires MicroSD. I'm actually looking at this one:
Sandisk 64gb MicroSDXC Class 10
The Dock will obviously take a straight SD card, or a MicroSD card using the SD adapter. Is one of these ways any better as far as performance and reliability? I want to maximize read/write speeds.
I've also read enough threads here and elsewhere to see that this device is finicky with regard to which cards it'll work with, which formatting will be accepted and seen, etc. Any thoughts/experience in terms of which 64gb SD and/or MicroSD work best would be appreciated. And I understand that the higher the Class, theoretically the faster read/write speeds, but in an imperfect world, this isn't always the case, especially with this somewhat quirky device.
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I have one of those, formatted with exFAT. In the tablet it seems fine, and I can put video files on it and stream them off with no problem.
Not tried it in the dock.
If I unmount it clean from the tablet it is usually fine in my Windows 7 laptop; but occasionally it gets left in a dirty state and Windows will mount it read-only. I don't know if that's common with other cards.
However, in another thread I started a while ago I think we've found that the card can't be used in the tablet for recovery purposes. That may or may not matter to you.

Thanks for the reply. I went ahead and order the MicroSDXC card above, along with the full SD version of the same Class 10 card. I heard from another TF700T user for whom the MicroSDXC worked fine, so hopefully I'll be okay.
And thanks for the tip, but no, I won't need that card for recovery purposes.
Best,

Just ordered a 400gb micro SD.

Been using a 200gb that came free with the purchase of the V20. Gonna pass this off to my son. I'm running out of room and wanna carry more. This 400gb should give me enough room. ?
Anybody else using one in the v30/+?

All set up. 367gb free. I can pretty much use the internal 128gb for whatever phone wise (apps), and this for the downloads and music (I store mine locally). I do have a streaming account though, but prefer my collection on my SD card.

20degrees said:
All set up. 367gb free. I can pretty much use the internal 128gb for whatever phone wise (apps), and this for the downloads and music (I store mine locally). I do have a streaming account though, but prefer my collection on my SD card.
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I like my music on the phone also. Which card did you get?

bilbo60 said:
I like my music on the phone also. Which card did you get?
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Sandisk Ultra 400GB Micro SDXC UHS-I Card with Adapter.
Some reason it won't post the link. Search for that on Amazon.

20degrees said:
Sandisk Ultra 400GB Micro SDXC UHS-I Card with Adapter.
Some reason it won't post the link. Search for that on Amazon.
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Thanks. Found them. Probably go with the 200 GB.

bilbo60 said:
Thanks. Found them. Probably go with the 200 GB.
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The Samsung cards are really good too. They offer a 256gb.

20degrees said:
All set up. 367gb free. I can pretty much use the internal 128gb for whatever phone wise (apps), and this for the downloads and music (I store mine locally). I do have a streaming account though, but prefer my collection on my SD card.
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Wow. 400GB.
Here's the link you couldn't post for some reason, if other people need it:
Sandisk Ultra 400GB Micro SDXC UHS-I Card with Adapter - SDSQUAR-400G-GN6MA
https://www.amazon.com/Sandisk-Ultr...21160&sr=8-2&keywords=400gb+microsd+card&th=1
Also, other size choices on that page.
My last three phones (gen3 Galaxy Nexus, LG Nexus 5, Moto XT1225) didn't have microSD cards, although the 2014 Moto XT1225 (unofficial smaller version of the Moto Nexus 6) did have 64GB internal storage. I ordered a 256GB card from that page -- which eventually will be in addition to my 128GB V30+ when it comes.
Now trying to decide what my wife's LG V30 will get. That 200GB is only $73 right now and looks very tempting for her phone.

ChazzMatt said:
Wow. 400GB.
Here's the link you couldn't post for some reason, if other people need it:
Sandisk Ultra 400GB Micro SDXC UHS-I Card with Adapter - SDSQUAR-400G-GN6MA
https://www.amazon.com/Sandisk-Ultr...21160&sr=8-2&keywords=400gb+microsd+card&th=1
Also, other size choices on that page.
My last three phones (gen3 Galaxy Nexus, LG Nexus 5, Moto XT1225) didn't have microSD cards, although the 2014 Moto XT1225 (unofficial smaller version of the Moto Nexus 6) did have 64GB internal storage. I ordered a 256GB card from that page -- which eventually will be in addition to my 128GB V30+ when it comes.
Now trying to decide what my wife's LG V30 will get. That 200GB is only $73 right now and looks very tempting for her phone.
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$73 for a 200gb doesn't seem bad, it's actually a way better value compared to the 400gb. But I was going for size. My 200gb held up well for the time I used it though.

20degrees said:
All set up. 367gb free. I can pretty much use the internal 128gb for whatever phone wise (apps), and this for the downloads and music (I store mine locally). I do have a streaming account though, but prefer my collection on my SD card.
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Could you please test what's the write speed of this card for constant transfer?
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DonAndress said:
Could you please test what's the write speed of this card for constant transfer?
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Using "A1 SD Bench" gives the results posted below. My PC doesn't have USB 3.0 yet as this spring is my lustrum update year for the motherboard, ram and CPU. So it's not really worth testing on there.
Edit: Results posted on the following post. I forgot to attach them and edit mode didn't give me the option of doing so.

Forgot results.

If anyone wants some stats on the card here is an post from the V20 forum and what I got of test:
Okay I got the Card of SanDisk Ultra micro SDXC UHS-I Card 400 GB "Well actually less then 400 GB because of companies continuously lies which seems to be of no end to it" and it is running much faster then my old samsung 128 evo or evo+. It's not running as fast as your 128 GB samsung pro+ but anyway il find the results. Iv made test with 3 programs on the V20.
First one is A1 SD Bench which you used:
Read 78.14 MB/s - Write 41,21MB/s
Read 78,19MB/s - Write 41,37MB/s
Read 79,45MB/s - Write 42,97MB/s
Read 78,50MB/s - Write 41,07MB/s
Then SD Card Test
Read 88 MB/s - Write 42 MB/s
Read 87 MB/s - Write 42 MB/s
Read 88 MB/s - Write 40 MB/s
Read 89 MB/s - Write 42 MB/s
and last without any advertising AndroBench:
Read 84.16 MB/s - Write 46,59 MB/s
Read 84.39 MB/s - Write 50,16 MB/s
Read 84.81 MB/s - Write 53,23 MB/s
Read 84.25 MB/s - Write 55,9 MB/s
As you can see the write is far from as good as the Card you had of 128 GB... But of cause this is 400 GB and still a good deal faster then my old ones I had. Put a lot of stuff on it already. I also found out my Laptop is getting old as it corrupts the image of the UHD video when playing.... My Mobile seems to actually have more juice in that department then my laptop as it runs fine on the mobile. I tested which quality I wanted to run on my mobile for best video results and used the Pagan New Year in the Winter for it. I did a look at it yesterday and It seems FHD and 60 frames a second gave the best results on the V20.

Jesus is God Almighty said:
"Well actually less then 400 GB because of companies continuously lies which seems to be of no end to it"
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Flash memory has a finite number of writes to each page before they 'wear out' to some headroom is required to spread out the read/write cycles and manage the storage. This headroom is the difference between the actual size of the card and the amount you get to use. It's called wear levelling. An explanation can be found on Wikipedia.

400GB is a lot! If you use a program like Aftiss (which is on the forums, just give it a quick search) and use the setting "0" when formatting the card, that whole 400GB will turn into Internal Storage. I have it set up that way on my Verizon V30 with a 128GB microSD Card. Just do a backup beforehand just in case anything goes wrong (which it shouldn't.)

Charbleach said:
400GB is a lot! If you use a program like Aftiss (which is on the forums, just give it a quick search) and use the setting "0" when formatting the card, that whole 400GB will turn into Internal Storage. I have it set up that way on my Verizon V30 with a 128GB microSD Card. Just do a backup beforehand just in case anything goes wrong (which it shouldn't.)
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Can you eject the card and use it elsewhere to modify its contents?

20degrees said:
Can you eject the card and use it elsewhere to modify its contents?
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i want to know this too

20degrees said:
Can you eject the card and use it elsewhere to modify its contents?
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bountyman334 said:
i want to know this too
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Probably not since the microSD becomes the internal storage where all of the "active" system & app files (user changes) are stored
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the following should explain it
https://fossbytes.com/android-sd-card-internal-storage-adoptable-storage/
so it might be possible, but there are possible consequences (data corruption, system messed up, etc.) - a reject beforehand is highly recommended

20degrees said:
Can you eject the card and use it elsewhere to modify its contents?
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Oops! Didn't see this reply. You are not able to remove the SD Card, well at least not recommended to, because if you removed it and some apps had placed necessary files on it, they won't be able to run. I would strongly recommend against it just because of the dangers that could come with it.

PaulNexus7 said:
Flash memory has a finite number of writes to each page before they 'wear out' to some headroom is required to spread out the read/write cycles and manage the storage. This headroom is the difference between the actual size of the card and the amount you get to use. It's called wear levelling. An explanation can be found on Wikipedia.
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Most harddrive makers and memory card makers has always cheated with the real amount of space.
The last company I know that kept the rules of real storage was IBM who made the Deathstars as they sadly ended up being known by. They then sold there harddrive line to another company, Hitachi or something I think it was. But the thing is when you bought a 20, 40 GB or 60 GB harddrive from IBM you actually got those GB and no cheating.
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Charbleach said:
400GB is a lot! If you use a program like Aftiss (which is on the forums, just give it a quick search) and use the setting "0" when formatting the card, that whole 400GB will turn into Internal Storage. I have it set up that way on my Verizon V30 with a 128GB microSD Card. Just do a backup beforehand just in case anything goes wrong (which it shouldn't.)
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I rather not as I many times pop it out and into my computer - I don't have time for the stupidity of connecting the phone to the computer and having all these issues with it which should not have been. So mostly because of frustration I end up just popping the SD out of the phone and putting it directly into my computer. Then you can do multiple things on it without any error popping up and have top speed.

I'm using the 400GB with my v30+ simply for Rom back-ups and storing my music.