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"Thank you for contacting HTC regarding your mobile phone HTC Desire S.
I understand that you wish to know if your phone will get an update to unlock the Bootloader.
We’re pleased to announce that we have heard everyone’s comments and constructive suggestions and have decided to go forward with this initiative. Currently we don’t have a schedule yet, but stay tuned; we will let you know via through our official website and official social media outlets.
Regarding which phones will be unlocked, currently we don’t have information but keep an eye on our official website and official social media outlets for announcements about which phones will be bootloader unlocked."
Sincerely,
Carola
HTC
So there you have it. HTC is gonna unlock bootloaders on existing phones, but no info is given regarding which phones will be unlocked, and when. Let's just keep our fingers crossed and hope that the Desire S receives an unlock soon. Keep an eye on their FB page people.
Its exactly the same answer that someone already posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14217130&postcount=19
when it comes to getting answers from HTC support (regarding updates, schedules, etc) know that they can't be trusted...
anyone who have waited for hero update knows what i mean
Regarding which phone will be Unlock? If Desire S will never going to be in the list...I'll just sell this and get something else.
Officially, how many HTC Android phone has a locked bootloader?
pure marketing, i believe it when i see it...
Well, they wouldn't lie, i just hope it wont take much time
desire s is kindly new/fresh device, I believe it should get official unlocked bootloader soon =)
Iv'e just got of the phone will a really nice chap from HTC.
I phoned and explained to the chap that HTC never used to lock there bootloaders but changed there policy a few months back and started locking them.
However this has only affected a few phones because HTC have publicly announced that they have now changed there policy again and will no longer be locking them due to customer feedback.
The reason for my call was to ask him if HTC had a solution for the people who had been caught in the middle, like myself with a Desire S, I asked him if he could provide me with software or a solution so that I could turn the S-ON off and unlock my bootloader, he said he just needed to speak with someone first and placed me on hold.
When he came back he said unfortunately there isn't any software that can be released to the public just yet, but they are aware of the situation and they are working on releasing software to enable us to unlock our bootloaders, but unfortunately he couldn't give me anything just yet. He also told me to join the HTC e-Club as that is where it will be released. I tried to push him for an ETA but he said HTC don't give ETA's its against there policy.
The chap seemed really helpful, he even mentioned for me to have a look on xda, we talked about the xtc clip and he told me I'm best waiting because the xtc clip voids your warranty. So you can only take from that, that the Official HTC way won't void your warranty.
Just hope it comes soon
CAN NOT WAIT!
Really great news, I hope they'll deliver as soon as possible!
NexusCrazy said:
Iv'e just got of the phone will a really nice chap from HTC.
I phoned and explained to the chap that HTC never used to lock there bootloaders but changed there policy a few months back and started locking them.
However this has only affected a few phones because HTC have publicly announced that they have now changed there policy again and will no longer be locking them due to customer feedback.
The reason for my call was to ask him if HTC had a solution for the people who had been caught in the middle, like myself with a Desire S, I asked him if he could provide me with software or a solution so that I could turn the S-ON off and unlock my bootloader, he said he just needed to speak with someone first and placed me on hold.
When he came back he said unfortunately there isn't any software that can be released to the public just yet, but they are aware of the situation and they are working on releasing software to enable us to unlock our bootloaders, but unfortunately he couldn't give me anything just yet. He also told me to join the HTC e-Club as that is where it will be released. I tried to push him for an ETA but he said HTC don't give ETA's its against there policy.
The chap seemed really helpful, he even mentioned for me to have a look on xda, we talked about the xtc clip and he told me I'm best waiting because the xtc clip voids your warranty. So you can only take from that, that the Official HTC way won't void your warranty.
Just hope it comes soon
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Without meaning to piss on your bonfire
He didn't actually tell you anything that we don't already know...all he did was demonstrate excellent customer service skills and possibly get another member of the HTC e-Club!
Until HTC announce an official statement giving us a date(s) when this "software release" will roll out then it should unfortunately be classed as vapor ware.
It's great that they have said that they're changing their policy, but I'm not holding my breath. IMO creating such a positive sounding post when there is nothing solid to back it up is just giving people false hope and besides there are already posts on this topic in this forum...
I'd obviously love to be proven wrong....
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Without meaning to piss on your bonfire
He didn't actually tell you anything that we don't already know...all he did was demonstrate excellent customer service skills and possibly get another member of the HTC e-Club!
Until HTC announce an official statement giving us a date(s) when this "software release" will roll out then it should unfortunately be classed as vapor ware.
It's great that they have said that they're changing their policy, but I'm not holding my breath. IMO creating such a positive sounding post when there is nothing solid to back it up is just giving people false hope and besides there are already posts on this topic in this forum...
I'd obviously love to be proven wrong....
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Bad me
and another few letters to hit 10 or over
You're right on the spot mate!
I've been in the call-center industry (technical support manager) and these "alibi"s are just way too obvious, even for an average joe.
Our only proof that this would be true, is once the software has been released. *IF* it will be released.. *AND IF* there's any..
Well, let's all hope for the best..
ben_pyett said:
Without meaning to piss on your bonfire
He didn't actually tell you anything that we don't already know...all he did was demonstrate excellent customer service skills and possibly get another member of the HTC e-Club!
Until HTC announce an official statement giving us a date(s) when this "software release" will roll out then it should unfortunately be classed as vapor ware.
It's great that they have said that they're changing their policy, but I'm not holding my breath. IMO creating such a positive sounding post when there is nothing solid to back it up is just giving people false hope and besides there are already posts on this topic in this forum...
I'd obviously love to be proven wrong....
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lets hope they get to it asap to keep us all happy, coz im on the verge of possibly selling my desire and going elsewhere for a manufacturer. HTC need to rethink some of their strategies when it comes to making decisions about quality over quantity.
Skanob said:
You're right on the spot mate!
I've been in the call-center industry (technical support manager) and these "alibi"s are just way too obvious, even for an average joe.
Our only proof that this would be true, is once the software has been released. *IF* it will be released.. *AND IF* there's any..
Well, let's all hope for the best..
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For one thing I ain't no average Joe,
I've dealt with enough nuggets at call centers, the bloke I spoke to at HTC was either very good at chatting sh*t or he was genuine.
From the conversation I had with him I'd say he was definitely genuine, he didn't just fob me off, he took the TIME to find out.
Anyway in 6 months if the Desire S is still locked down then tell me I told you so.
Time will tell
If 6 months over and still not unlocked, i dont think that someone will have the desire S anymore.. and HTC will get a really bad name xD
im still waiting...maybe not an official scheme but in here~~
6 months is way too long just to wait for HTC to unlock something.
HTC has released unlocked bootloader RUU for the HTC EVO yesterday I think...I hope we don't have to wait too long for Desire S.
My bad, I read that too quickly:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...-4g-gingerbread-update-fresh-out-of-the-oven/
It's an official rooted gingerbread OTA update by an XDA developer, not from HTC. My apologies for the false positive
jazzaddict said:
HTC has released unlocked bootloader RUU for the HTC EVO yesterday I think...I hope we don't have to wait too long for Desire S
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pics or it didn't happened
seriously looked at htc page and there isn't a update announced and at the evo forum there are not 1000 threads like YAY F*** BOOTLOADER UNLOCKED!!!!!111111 so i think htc released nothing
Nuts to this. I have just dropped my phone off at a shop who are running the XTC Clip service for me. By this afternoon I should have wifi drop issues sorted, wifi range sorted, custom kernel OC to 1.2Ghz (can do 1.7 but I think that would cook it!), some Sense 3.0 stuff, SetCPU back, Titanium backup back, and all the other goodies of a rooted s-off phone & custom ROM. Looking forward to it.
Sorry HTC. Just too slow.
HTC are unlocking the Sensation retrospectively. Hopefully the DS will follow suit.
http://phandroid.com/2011/06/08/htc-readying-update-to-unlock-htc-sensation-bootloader/
mikeyd85 said:
HTC are unlocking the Sensation retrospectively. Hopefully the DS will follow suit.
http://phandroid.com/2011/06/08/htc-readying-update-to-unlock-htc-sensation-bootloader/
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this looks a little vague to me...
guys it's easy, don't believe anything until htc posts it at facebook.com/htc or at htc.com, everything else will be to 99% not true
Blezz said:
guys it's easy, don't believe anything until htc posts it at facebook.com/htc or at htc.com, everything else will be to 99% not true
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i'd say 100% even
I went to htcdev's site and clicked the feedback button a few days back.
I simply asked when AT&T HTC One X (a.k.a Elite) kernel source would be released and if/when unlocked bootloaders would be available.
Got the following response today.
htcdev said:
Thank you Bryan for contacting HTC Technical Support. I understand you're inquiring about unlocking the bootloader and releasing the kernel source for your HTC One X. I am more than happy to be able to provide some clarity to the situation at hand.
HTC is committed to assisting customers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices. However, certain models may not be unlockable due to operator restrictions. Please refer to our list of supported devices to see if your device is eligible for unlocking the bootloader. http://htcdev.com/bootloader/
HTC will typically publish on http://developer.htc.com or htcdev.com the Kernel open source code for recently released devices as soon as possible. HTC will normally publish this within 90 to 120 days. This time frame is within the requirements of the open source community.
Feel free to reply should you have any further questions. If you feel more comfortable discussing issues by phone, you can contact Technical Support at 1-866-449-8358, 6 am to 1 am EST, 7 days a week.
If this answers your comment or question, please click here to complete the process.
To submit another comment, please click here.
Sincerely,
The HTCDev Team
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Granted this response is pretty generic. All device manufacturers have a time limit (60, 90, 120 days after release), but sometimes are nice *cough*galaxy note*cough*... and release code before the phone even releases.
Compared to my experience with other device manufactures, htc's response time and the response itself were pretty good.
And I'm sure a few hundred users for just this device, as well as other devices without source and unlocked bl are also hitting htcdev's customer facing feedback/support. So I'm posting this here so you don't have to go ask them the same exact question
If the AT&T HTC One X is one of the "certain models [that] may not be unlockable due to operator restrictions.", we will have to give lots of thanks to the RDs and Senior Members working on this, and donate to them if you can! So instead of bugging htc about the bootloaders, you should be pointing that at AT&T/Rogers/etc...
I personally don't know enough about htc bl unlocking, but am stoked for kernel source to drop
bhundven said:
I went to htcdev's site and clicked the feedback button a few days back.
I simply asked when AT&T HTC One X (a.k.a Elite) kernel source would be released and if/when unlocked bootloaders would be available.
Got the following response today.
(bold added by me)
Granted this response is pretty generic. All device manufacturers have a time limit (60, 90, 120 days after release), but sometimes are nice *cough*galaxy note*cough*... and release code before the phone even releases.
Compared to my experience with other device manufactures, htc's response time and the response itself were pretty good.
And I'm sure a few hundred users for just this device, as well as other devices without source and unlocked bl are also hitting htcdev's customer facing feedback/support. So I'm posting this here so you don't have to go ask them the same exact question
If the AT&T HTC One X is one of the "certain models [that] may not be unlockable due to operator restrictions.", we will have to give lots of thanks to the RDs and Senior Members working on this, and donate to them if you can! So instead of bugging htc about the bootloaders, you should be pointing that at AT&T/Rogers/etc...
I personally don't know enough about htc bl unlocking, but am stoked for kernel source to drop
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yea but without being unlocked kernel source doesnt help very much.
and its att, rogers doesnt cripple phones anymore...mines unlocked.
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I went to HTC's site and there are over 30 versions of the source code for download on the One X....just not for ATT...so it seems HTC is not the problem...sounds typical of att though...the kernal for T-Mobile version is already out..(One S)..I'm going to call and send email to att...might even threaten to cancel..one call won't help a lot but if a lot of calls come in then who knows...att claims to be ALL about customer satisfaction...
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bhundven said:
I went to htcdev's site and clicked the feedback button a few days back.
I simply asked when AT&T HTC One X (a.k.a Elite) kernel source would be released and if/when unlocked bootloaders would be available.
Got the following response today.
(bold added by me)
Granted this response is pretty generic. All device manufacturers have a time limit (60, 90, 120 days after release), but sometimes are nice *cough*galaxy note*cough*... and release code before the phone even releases.
Compared to my experience with other device manufactures, htc's response time and the response itself were pretty good.
And I'm sure a few hundred users for just this device, as well as other devices without source and unlocked bl are also hitting htcdev's customer facing feedback/support. So I'm posting this here so you don't have to go ask them the same exact question
If the AT&T HTC One X is one of the "certain models [that] may not be unlockable due to operator restrictions.", we will have to give lots of thanks to the RDs and Senior Members working on this, and donate to them if you can! So instead of bugging htc about the bootloaders, you should be pointing that at AT&T/Rogers/etc...
I personally don't know enough about htc bl unlocking, but am stoked for kernel source to drop
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This same thing (slightly different verbiage) was already posted multiple times (about locked bootloader) This is same response they gave Paul, posted here (XDA), at Engadget and others.
"HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. Since announcing our commitment to unlockable bootloaders, HTC has worked to enable our customers to unlock the bootloader on more than 45 devices over the past six months. In some cases, however, restrictions prevent certain devices from participating in our bootloader unlocking program. Rest assured, HTC is committed to assisting developers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices and we'll continue to unlock additional devices in the future."
Kernel source does no good until we can use it....
nugzo said:
This same thing (slightly different verbiage) was already posted multiple times (about locked bootloader) This is same response they gave Paul, posted here (XDA), at Engadget and others.
"HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. Since announcing our commitment to unlockable bootloaders, HTC has worked to enable our customers to unlock the bootloader on more than 45 devices over the past six months. In some cases, however, restrictions prevent certain devices from participating in our bootloader unlocking program. Rest assured, HTC is committed to assisting developers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices and we'll continue to unlock additional devices in the future."
Kernel source does no good until we can use it....
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I agree. I was making a point that htc seems responsive.
The problem is with AT&T/Rogers/etc.
I didn't post this as 'bleeding edge news'. I pm'd you the same.
Everyone talks about htcdev unlock, I was trying to also make a point that it may not be up to htc if the bootloaders become unlocked. So support your local bootloader unlocking dev.
Sorry for any confusion, I thought it read clear when I clicked `post'.
Do you think there will be a root exploit for 2.20 soon and if so when do you think it will be available?
I hope there's some devs willing to work on it. It's a relatively new software version. We all gotta have some patience. I'd really like to get CM10 up and running on the HOX. Works great on my Nexus 7.
thephased said:
I hope there's some devs willing to work on it. It's a relatively new software version. We all gotta have some patience. I'd really like to get CM10 up and running on the HOX. Works great on my Nexus 7.
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I know, I actually emailed htc saying something like "we pay for these phone with our money we should be able to do what we want to do with them." and here is what they said: "I understand that you have some concerns regarding the bootloader unlock on the HTC One X and I would be more than happy to assist you with information!
HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. Since announcing our commitment to unlockable bootloaders, HTC has worked to enable our customers to unlock the bootloader on more than 45 devices over the past six months. In some cases, however, restrictions prevent certain devices from participating in our bootloader unlocking program. Rest assured, HTC is committed to assisting developers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices and we'll continue to unlock additional devices in the future."
I personally would love to be able to unlock the AT&T HOX through the htcdev website that would be awesome!
mmmatt312 said:
I know, I actually emailed htc saying something like "we pay for these phone with our money we should be able to do what we want to do with them." and here is what they said: "I understand that you have some concerns regarding the bootloader unlock on the HTC One X and I would be more than happy to assist you with information!
HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. Since announcing our commitment to unlockable bootloaders, HTC has worked to enable our customers to unlock the bootloader on more than 45 devices over the past six months. In some cases, however, restrictions prevent certain devices from participating in our bootloader unlocking program. Rest assured, HTC is committed to assisting developers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices and we'll continue to unlock additional devices in the future."
I personally would love to be able to unlock the AT&T HOX through the htcdev website that would be awesome!
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Unfortunately, the carriers have the upper hand when it comes to bootloaders and whether they allow them to be unlocked. It could be a while, if ever, until HTC adds the AT&T HOX to their supported unlockable devices. I'll take an unofficial method instead if that's what's available.But yeah, it would be great if it happened officially.
asking when root will be available is like asking a dev when his rom is going to be updated. rest assured it will happen eventually, but the devs that do this do it in there spare time when not at work or with family, and most of the time end up doing all for free and risking there own devices. so the answer is it will come but only when it ready.
When you find the exploit
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Get your hopes up for the 4th.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832921
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superchilpil said:
When you find the exploit
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Lol.
Those are the kindest remarks I've ever seen to a thread like this being posted. Is anybody going to say how ignorant of a question that is to ask? Mods please move this thread to the ESP forums for our psychics evaluate.
18th.abn said:
Those are the kindest remarks I've ever seen to a thread like this being posted. Is anybody going to say how ignorant of a question that is to ask? Mods please move this thread to the ESP forums for our psychics evaluate.
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All the jerks bought S3's.
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I made this thread to try and get the get the flame burning again on this topic. It seems since we've achieved safestrap people don't seem too interested in pursuing an unlocked bootloader. I understand that if i want AOSP i should try trading my phone for one with an unlocked bootloader (knowing that somebody is going to comment saying that). But what does that do for the community? Nothing productive. Speaking theoretically here, how is a bootloader unlock achieved with the bootloader lock key? Is there some way of inputting it to unlock the bootloader? What happens if you have the wrong key? Is there a way to create script a keygen that goes through every possibility of however many digit of a code the bootloader lock key is? Or can it only be done via exploit?
Thank you very much for taking the time to read this. Let the discussion begin.
Travisholt92 said:
I made this thread to try and get the get the flame burning again on this topic. It seems since we've achieved safestrap people don't seem too interested in pursuing an unlocked bootloader. I understand that if i want AOSP i should try trading my phone for one with an unlocked bootloader (knowing that somebody is going to comment saying that). But what does that do for the community? Nothing productive. Speaking theoretically here, how is a bootloader unlock achieved with the bootloader lock key? Is there some way of inputting it to unlock the bootloader? What happens if you have the wrong key? Is there a way to create script a keygen that goes through every possibility of however many digit of a code the bootloader lock key is? Or can it only be done via exploit?
Thank you very much for taking the time to read this. Let the discussion begin.
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If you took the time to read the numerous discussions on this you'd know the answers. People are dropping the unlocked bootloader since even the S4's hasn't been unlocked (since MDK baseband). Regarding the five key questions, it would take a super computer thousands of years to try every possibility. Wrong one would equal bricked phone. Exploit would be only way, and now that Geohot works for Google, he's out of the picture and I'm sure the other Devs aren't going to bother. SS is fine for now, you can always switch carriers if you care that much.
So the community on this device will never progress. Awesome.
Travisholt92 said:
So the community on this device will never progress. Awesome.
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That is a real possibility. Now with this lesson learned, look for a carrier or device next time that does not lock the bootloader. HTC locks their bootloader but is good enough to provide us users with a way to unlock it. As mentioned, bootloaders are WAY different than obtaining root and there is a very real chance of killing the device in the trial and error process.
I feel where you are coming from i felt the same way. Switched for an HTC One m8 and besides the fact that the bootloader can be unlocked, it's just a much better phone. Should give it a shot! A GS5 is an equal trade for an m8 on craigslist so it shouldn't be too hard. It does seem the general consensus is that the dev's have given up on even trying to unlock it so i would just accept it and move on unfortunately.