HTC will keep bootloaders open - Thunderbolt General

HTC is now going to keep thier bootloaders unlocked they just released on Facebook
""There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC"
Figured i would share this with the Thunderbolt Community

Just saw this on Edgadnet!! HTC, um you rock!

I'll believe it when I see it
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Will the sensation be unlocked?
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im happy, but will current phones get this>?

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im happy, but will current phones get this>?
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Only time will tell I guess.

What's your malfunction Motorola?
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Awesome... credit goes to jcase and everybody who mailed in I guess... still to be seen if everything will be unlocked, but definitely promising news.
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Wonderful news!

Implies it's all phones moving forward. No mention of current devices.
"Today, I’m confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices."

I bet the number of HTC devices on Verizon will drop after this. They don't like it when they can't lock u down VZW has been the wors t about locking phones down even before they got Android devices
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So for those crying about HTC locking bootloaders because US users brick our devices can now taking the crying to mommy lmao ,
key word "our"
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If the Inc2 or TB can be unlocked in the next few weeks, I'll buy one in seconds.

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I bet the number of HTC devices on Verizon will drop after this. They don't like it when they can't lock u down VZW has been the wors t about locking phones down even before they got Android devices
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I think at&t has the most locked down devices, most of their phones couldn't sideload apps.
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CmcNsm said:
I think at&t has the most locked down devices, most of their phones couldn't sideload apps.
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Exactly. I think the roles have reversed in that department at this point. Verizon has invested too much into Android (especially with the DROID line) to let something like that which only affects the hacking community lower their product line. It would be product suicide for them based on their current standings.

thetwiztidfreak said:
I bet the number of HTC devices on Verizon will drop after this. They don't like it when they can't lock u down VZW has been the wors t about locking phones down even before they got Android devices
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I can't say that I see that happening. The TBolt is actually the first smartphone I've had that's not run a custom rom (yet). The TB is my 6th HTC smartphone on VZW, and I'm pretty sure it won't be my last.
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animez said:
I can't say that I see that happening. The TBolt is actually the first smartphone I've had that's not run a custom rom (yet). The TB is my 6th HTC smartphone on VZW, and I'm pretty sure it won't be my last.
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I also don't see Verizon giving a rip about this, and I bet HTC will implement it with an OEM fastboot unlock command that leaves a trace so that they know it has been unlocked.
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I doubt the current phones will get this.

nmyeti said:
I also don't see Verizon giving a rip about this, and I bet HTC will implement it with an OEM fastboot unlock command that leaves a trace so that they know it has been unlocked.
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HTC doesn't want to get the same bad rep Moto does for their locked phones (before you jumpt to conclusions that no one cares except a small minority on this, hear me out because it's far more than that). I'm not sure how it is for everyone else, but if you happen to be known among your friends and family as being the "computer expert," they tend to ask you what you would want to buy yourself. The reaction of modders against HTC is probably something they don't want just for the bad PR and referrals they will get. I stopped telling friends/family to buy Moto when they screwed everyone and HTC when they started to lock things down (except for ones not locked).
Word of mouth is what made Android popular to begin with and is far more powerful than any PR campaign (just look at Apple fans and how much they preach their iCrap and look how it works). HTC with from an unknown company themselves to a huge phone maker with more or less with google's blessing (and google as far as I know wants you to mod your phone).
Moto wasn't exactly doing awesome before android, but it was a far larger company than HTC was. HTC unlike moto doesnt have a history of really being arrogant, not listening to customers and assuming that if they keep releasing the same thing a billion times with small changes, it will still sell like it did before (the razr). Moto shoots themselves in the foot constantly and will continue to do so. They're lucky they built the first droid or they would most likely be dead in the water as a company.
A locked down android phone isn't much better than an iphone and sort of defeats the purpose of android to begin with. "Rooting your android" isn't exactly a common thing yet for people to know about, but looking at some of the clueless people (i mean that in the best of ways, not so much of an insult) that wander into xda lately, it's obviously becoming more so than ever before. If you tell someone you "rooted" your android phone they might not know what you mean, but if you use the very bad analogy that you "jailbroke it," far more people will get what you mean even if it isn't exactly correct. Point is, rooting will finally catch on in the mainstream world soon enough (I mean it took like a year for the local news here to "discover" angry birds, lol [they just did a news broadcast on it the other way sadly]).
Although no one can exactly say for sure, but I am sure HTC employees hang around on xda (at least some developers) and review third party development of their phones for future things to incorporate or remove from them (as well as free beta testing of obviously broken leaks). It would be dumb for them not to do so when it's all right there for them. If they lock it down, they lose something they would have to go and pay for themselves and might also be biased data. Anyways you cant assume that "leaks" are all just about altruism. The fact something gets leaked without any recourse would imply it was leaked most likely with approval. Same thing with the so called "insiders" that post on blogs about things that would look questionable to talk about from a corporate standpoint; It's sort of like a form of "astroturfing" only in a better way than what most companies do (since it's actually useful).
Moto could take a few cues from outside development, since obviously they have no clue how to develop a framework on their phones (looking at moto blur). Not saying Sense is perfect, but it could be far far worse.

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Will the Nexus S on sprint kill the image of having Nexus phone?

Have you ever had that moment when people tell you, What's so good about your phone? Well I have and I reply because it's the phone that you don't have. Not that many people know about the Nexus line. If Sprint does offer the Nexus S will it have the same unique feeling that it has to own a Nexus device. How would you see of your walking down the street and you see someone with the same phone?
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Alopez_45 said:
Have you ever had that moment when people tell you, What's so good about your phone? Well I have and I reply because it's the phone that you don't have. Not that many people know about the Nexus line. If Sprint does offer the Nexus S will it have the same unique feeling that it has to own a Nexus device. How would you see of your walking down the street and you see someone with the same phone?
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why would I not want someone else to enjoy their phone? The more the merrier.
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Who cares? Are you insecure or something that you need another person's opinion or have an "exclusive" phone to make you feel good?
It's not really insecurity. The reason I ask this if I was the only person that felt this way. I upgraded from and Evo and I work for Radio Shack. Mostly everyone has an Evo and half the people don't even know how to use it. Honestly the reason I say this. The nexus line is not one of your everyday phones that everyone has....that's why.
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I kinda feel the same as you. I kinda like walking down the street and seeing no one with a Nexus phone. I think it will definitely lose that unique feeling once you can walk into a t-mobile or sprint phone and buy one...
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Have you ever had that moment when people tell you, What's so good about your phone?
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I'd reply with, "It's prettier, nicer, more valuable and more intelligent than you are".
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Mostly everyone has an Evo and half the people don't even know how to use it.
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And this is why I don't care about other people's opinion. When it's all about image and bragging rights, then I am reminded of the fact that half the population is below average in intelligence.
Ya, I felt the same way with my N1. The N1 was my very first smartphone, then moved on to NS . I choose N1 because it wasn't being sold in stores, it wasn't an iPhone, and because Google helped create it. Its just nice having something unique.
The nexus s is a great phone and it doesn't matter who has it in their carrier because google wouldn't let it be branded which makes the nexus line what it is.
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One of.the things I loved about the nexus one was that no one had it. I saw only two here in miami and I work in a cell store. I loved that phone it was special I regret changing for this one.to be honest. I don't want ten million people with the same phone as me. Its why I bought a nexus. That's the point of Google having a phone. So that the true android users can have something crappy two year upgrade I want a rebate people can't have. Hello people realize there Fu..... us. 4g nexus now? I can't even use Pandora and drive because my signal goes in and out. The nexus one was perfect. !
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there will be more accessories from otterbox and casemate when more ppl buy this phone.. that's a good thing.
the more people having the same phone the better
as it encourages more development and support
it also translates into more longevity before you need to switch to another phone
AllGamer said:
the more people having the same phone the better
as it encourages more development and support
it also translates into more longevity before you need to switch to another phone
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First one is true, but more development is also encouraged by the fact that it is stock Android. I can imagine it's easier to develope on.
I don't know why the second one would be true. If many people buy a certain phone (for example the Galaxy S), the producer wants to make a second one, the Galaxy S II in this case. You, jealous as you are, buy that phone. Also, a unique phone is still cool after 2 years, because you can still say: look what I have! No one will recognise it.
I don't think it will ruin the image of the Nexus line.
I think that this is a good phone and im surprised that not so many people have it actually.
I've seen a grand total of 1 Nexus One and 1 Nexus S in the wild since the phones have been launched. The Nexus S being mine.
I didn't get the Nexus S to be a special unique snowflake, I got it because of the stock android experience and updates directly from Google. Though, other phones seem weird to me wince I'm so used to the curved glass display on this phone.
I'll honestly never understand people who feel the need to be special.
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I don't have a nexus s, and I don't mean to cause any problems. I do feels like google has soldout the nexus line to the highest bidder. I was jealous of nexus users because the name nexus to me meant a developers phone and seeing one in the wild meant the owner knew a thing or two about roms and xda. It still means that, but thoses days are numbered now that sprint will be releasing the phone. I wonder if they're going to be insuring the phone. Again I mean no disrespect or anyone on the forums.
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Honestly I don't think sprint is going to release their Nexus S version. That page could just be from the Nexus One.
i like the phone but if other carriers get it i will be parting ways. everywhere i go i see a iphone 4, i dont want that feeling with the nexus s. when i had the nexus one i seen one other person with it. now you can walk into best buy and buy one
I'll only be bothered by the Sprint NS if it's better spec-wise (not counting 4G - which it'll supposedly have - since I'd have to drive 3 hours to the nearest WiMax signal anyway).
The technologically uneducated masses may buy the phone because it's touted as the best android device and available on vodaphone, but its the best phone because it's so modable.
we all know the average user doesn't have a clue about half of the capabilities of their phone, the joy of the nexus for me is that modding becomes a hobby, trying new roms, overclocking, etc, and because the nexus is google native, mods are easier, and the updates come quicker!
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[Q] Taking a leaf out of Apple's book

Interesting that the Sensation has a locked boot loader. It seems HTC are following Apple's view on this that they are going to be discouraging people from interfering with their software. I wonder if with time other Android manufacturers will follow the same course.
Super Chimp said:
Interesting that the Sensation has a locked boot loader. It seems HTC are following Apple's view on this that they are going to be discouraging people from interfering with their software. I wonder if with time other Android manufacturers will follow the same course.
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I think you'll find, that it is the other way around. All Winmo devices, going ack to 2002, have had locked bootloaders that will only accept a Signed ROM. Someone will develop a Hard SPL type system and all will be happy
Oh, and moved to General as not Rom Dev
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Every other manufacturer already does this, htc was the best. Now they think they are selling enough phones to screw over the dev community, and it seems Sony Ericsson is taking up the mantle for the dev community.
I for one an very disappointed in htc for this. Was holding off for this phone, but may now go the atrix, both are locked so why not get better spec'd phone and hope its cracked. Or go the Xperia arc, at least I know the bootloader will be open
Very disappointed htc, just wanted you to know that
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I thought HTC has been locking their bootloaders for over a year now?
Incredible S is locked, as is the Desire S (I believe) - the Sensation isn't the first
They have been locking their bootloaders, but not encrypting or signing them in any way, it seems now they are
Which makes me ask, Why? They have been doing so well with android devices why act like douches now
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HTC has always locked bootloaders. If the phone is popular enough they will break it. The question is is it encrypted. Which is most likely not. All we need most likely is an engineering build then wala the gates will be open. Every one thought the g2 was unrootable then one day permanent root.
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Killbynature said:
HTC has always locked bootloaders. If the phone is popular enough they will break it. The question is is it encrypted. Which is most likely not. All we need most likely is an engineering build then wala the gates will be open. Every one thought the g2 was unrootable then one day permanent root.
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I thought it was supposed to be the case that it is highly likely to be encrypted or so it appears to be at this stage. They seem to be making increasing efforts to make sure people are not able to tamper with the OS on it.
I beloved the reason they lock bootloaders is to stop the steady flow of people bricking their devices then calling in to get them replaced... seperating people who can read and follow simple directions from those who can't
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Most htc android phones have locked bootloader
Signed code is required since htc desire(i believe nexus one was the last phone that can write unsign code to recovery even with s-on).From desire to desire hd, it was through different exploits to enable s-off. All older exploits are gone since incredible s.
is the optimus 2x locked?
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is the optimus 2x locked?
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Yes, locked but I believe not signed or encrypted. And I also believe it has already been hacked
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Super Chimp said:
Interesting that the Sensation has a locked boot loader. It seems HTC are following Apple's view on this that they are going to be discouraging people from interfering with their software. I wonder if with time other Android manufacturers will follow the same course.
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Whats the deal with Motorola phones? Aren't they totally locked?
Part of the problem is irresponsible idiots bricking their phones then sending them in for replacements. Furthermore, and probably the most significant reason: that irresponsible people at tethering too much.
I for one love XDA. However, as it becomes more popular and easier for the layman to hack his phone, the development community becomes a greater threat to manufacturers and wireless providers
LG G2X or Sony for me!
vinokirk said:
Whats the deal with Motorola phones? Aren't they totally locked?
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My Atrix is signed. Eff moto.
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Stop locking bootloader's and you will probably have less people bricking devices.
Or Sony Ericsson's new way of unlocking bootloader, send IMEI to them to unlock. At least that way they know who unlocked and can enforce warranty voiding fairly
We buy the device, we pay, its OUR device, if we want to hack it, then screw you (insert manufacturer) we can, stop telling us what we can and can't do with OUR property
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Get a Desire HD, simple
g2x
i was thinking of getting the sensation but i hate the thought of them dicking with the boot loader and all the sense bloat so i got a g2x and i could not be happier rooted the day it came out this phone is blazing fast patiently waiting for some cm7 love
I hate how everyone is thinking a bootloader is the end of the road for the sensation. It will be hacked. No ifs ands or buts about it. The sensation is going to be an amazing phone with or without a boot loader. If you want to get a diff phone, that's your loss. But don't tell us your getting a different phone on the sensation's forum. No one cares about your lack of trust in the devs here. I'm getting one and you should too.
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@sbryan12144, I wanna believe you dude but if you look at the Incredible S bootloader situation, it doesn't look too good for the Sensation. Unless HTC uses a different method and it's easier to crack.
Not being able to root is a deal breaker for me (I sold the IS because of that) and it's what makes Android better in my opinion! (custom ROMs, themes, etc...)

G2X Against The World: Crack Flashers Will Appreciate.

The Sensation is not what you want.This device may fall under the category with the Droid X and the Atrix. There is barely any support for either device. I suggest you ride it out with the G2X because support and roms will come in a bundle sooner or later. The sensation is tempting but once you do your initial setup than what?
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U are right plus no HDMI mirroring
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charlieb620 said:
The sensation is tempting but once you do your initial setup than what?
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I'll have a working phone
But seriously, I'm a gadget whore. If it's shiny I'm one of the first to own it. I can't use cooked ROMs because everyone I've used (and I've used some of the greats) leave me f-d trying to register on foreign networks. I agree with you up to a point about dev support for the Sensation. Keep in mind it's HTC's flagship phone and will be highly sought after worldwide (as will the SGS2). Based on its popularity, I'm guessing it'll get some dev love.
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I'll have a working phone
But seriously, I'm a gadget whore. If it's shiny I'm one of the first to own it. I can't use cooked ROMs because everyone I've used (and I've used some of the greats) leave me f-d trying to register on foreign networks. I agree with you up to a point about dev support for the Sensation. Keep in mind it's HTC's flagship phone and will be highly sought after worldwide (as will the SGS2). Based on its popularity, I'm guessing it'll get some dev love.
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I am too. Ill have to see what happens.
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BarryH_GEG said:
I'll have a working phone
But seriously, I'm a gadget whore. If it's shiny I'm one of the first to own it. I can't use cooked ROMs because everyone I've used (and I've used some of the greats) leave me f-d trying to register on foreign networks. I agree with you up to a point about dev support for the Sensation. Keep in mind it's HTC's flagship phone and will be highly sought after worldwide (as will the SGS2). Based on its popularity, I'm guessing it'll get some dev love.
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The atrix is motorola's flagship phone as well.
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BarryH_GEG said:
I'll have a working phone
But seriously, I'm a gadget whore. If it's shiny I'm one of the first to own it. I can't use cooked ROMs because everyone I've used (and I've used some of the greats) leave me f-d trying to register on foreign networks. I agree with you up to a point about dev support for the Sensation. Keep in mind it's HTC's flagship phone and will be highly sought after worldwide (as will the SGS2). Based on its popularity, I'm guessing it'll get some dev love.
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If your happy w/ the level of dev love that the Dx and Atrix get, then you'll be fine. Note that their ROMS are quite limited due to the lock down.
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U are right plus no HDMI mirroring
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This is the feature that kept me on the g2x.
Also the extra ram and processer power that the sensation has is for sense ui to run smooth.
Cant wait until new kernels arrive that will make the tegra a crazy powerhouse. The phone has been out for about two weeks, give it some time for the devs to get a hold of it. The nexus s for the first 2 months had a really lame dev section.
babluc said:
This is the feature that kept me on the g2x.
Also the extra ram and processer power that the sensation has is for sense ui to run smooth.
Cant wait until new kernels arrive that will make the tegra a crazy powerhouse. The phone has been out for about two weeks, give it some time for the devs to get a hold of it. The nexus s for the first 2 months had a really lame dev section.
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Yep and look at it now.
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If your happy w/ the level of dev love that the Dx and Atrix get, then you'll be fine. Note that their ROMS are quite limited due to the lock down.
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Wouldn't the Thunderbolt be a better comparison to the Sensation rather than those Motorola phones since Motorola uses a different method of locking down their devices?
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Wouldn't the Thunderbolt be a better comparison to the Sensation rather than those Motorola phones since Motorola uses a different method of locking down their devices?
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No because the only reason the THunderbolt was unlocked was because of a leaked old ROM that wasn't locked down. Total luck.
I just came from an atrix and there is one dev cooking roms. (He has two). While they were both awesome its not a whole lot...we have more development here in two weeks then they had in 3 months. The atrix has more ram which is its only advantage....I always had like 700 mb ram available.....so for me the extra ram didn't benefit me. I was tempted to get the nexus s due to it being pure google but the fact that its a samsung phone (had alot of problems with galaxy s) and with dual core phones coming out I figured I would skip it. The g2x is what the nexus s should have shipped with. Dual core tegra.
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Motorola was a big name in Android because of the $100MM in marketing they and Verizon spent to put Android on the map with the "Droid does" campaign. Once HTC and Samsung got with the program Motorola's market share has been steadily declining. They're also primarily a North American player where Samsung and HTC are global. Both the SGS2 and Sensation will each individually sell more units than the entire Motorola Android product line. Spec wise the Atrix is a good comparison but sales and acceptance wise not so much. I at least give them credit for going back to the drawing board on the Bionic rather than launching what would have been an already dated phone.
Assuming all future Samsung and HTC phones are based off the internals of the SGS2 and Sensation, the impact of what you're saying is devs are going to stop working on Samsung and HTC phones. I find that hard to accept. Especially when the SGS2 and Sensation (and their derivatives) are expected to sell in the millions of units. Only time will tell.

HTC pushing out updates for bootloaders!

Its been a while since I have posted here, but as I did not see a thread dedicated to this yet other then the previous one in the dev section about HTC reviewing their policy. Here is what Htc Said Today.
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Devs, we’re making lots of progress on unlocking bootloaders: Today we can confirm the HTC Sensation and HTC EVO 3D will be supported! See out note for more info:
Update on Bootloaders
Thanks so much for providing feedback, we hear your concerns. Your satisfaction is a top priority for us and we're working hard to ensure you have great experiences with our phones. We're reviewing the issue and our policy around bootloaders and will provide more information soon. Thank you for your interest, support and willingness to share your feedback. **UPDATE** We’ve listened. Check out the statement from our CEO, Peter Chou on HTC bootloaders. Click the link for more info. http://on.fb.me/iZXgkR **UPDATE 7/10** <!-- p.p1 {margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 48.0px; font: 15.0px Calibri} --> We wanted to provide an update on HTC’s progress with bringing bootloader unlocking to our newest phones. We know how excited some of you are for this capability, and we’ve put significant resources behind making this change as soon as possible. While we wish we could flip a simple switch and unlock all bootloaders across our device portfolio, this is actually a complex challenge that requires a new software build and extensive testing to deliver the best possible customer experience. We’re thrilled to announce today that software updates to support bootloader unlocking will begin rolling out in August for the global HTC Sensation, followed by the HTC Sensation 4G on T-Mobile USA and the HTC EVO 3D on Sprint. We’re in the testing phase for the unlocking capability now, and we expect it to be fully operational by early September for devices that have received the software updates. We'll continue rolling out the unlocking capability over time to other devices as part of maintenance releases and new shipments. HTC continues its commitment to unlocking bootloaders and supporting the developer community. Because of the importance of this community to us, please expect an update on this about every few weeks as we make progress toward launch. Thank you for your patience and continued support!
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While this is very promising to us, keep in mind there are still other restrictions they are trying to use to crack down on the dev community.
Such as Providers working with google, reviewing which devices by imei will not take an update, and possibly deactivating service from there... I don't remember the link to the site that was talking about it, as I am on a new computer and it was book marked on my crashed one.
If any one has the link please feel free to share.
Where you been mudknot? You didn't get an infuse or something did you?
Definitely not I will never buy samsung unless its a tv or washer and dryer. My laptop crashed on me. So I had to buy a new one, which I got a somekin deal on, Thing has 6g ram, i5, 750g harddrive 17.3 inch screen, Ati graphics card with 1g dedicated ram, for 550 bucks.
Windows 7 and an XBOX 360?
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Definitely not I will never buy samsung unless its a tv or washer and dryer. My laptop crashed on me. So I had to buy a new one, which I got a somekin deal on, Thing has 6g ram, i5, 750g harddrive 17.3 inch screen, Ati graphics card with 1g dedicated ram, for 550 bucks.
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Whew. I was worried there for a sec.
I really think I need to do a backup of my laptop. A little voice has been telling me the last few days, and now you say yours did, somethings definitely trying to drop me a hint.
That's a lot of laptop for the price, for sure. In fact, that's downright amazing considering my POS and how much I paid for it 3 years ago.
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Windows 7 and an XBOX 360?
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Naa just a laptop that I got on clearance. I already have the three major systems.
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Whew. I was worried there for a sec.
I really think I need to do a backup of my laptop. A little voice has been telling me the last few days, and now you say yours did, somethings definitely trying to drop me a hint.
That's a lot of laptop for the price, for sure. In fact, that's downright amazing considering my POS and how much I paid for it 3 years ago.
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I am only going to upgrade to another HTC that is more then likely not going to be 3d, that crap hurts my eyes. More then likely the holiday.
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mudknot2005 said:
I am only going to upgrade to another HTC that is more then likely not going to be 3d, that crap hurts my eyes. More then likely the holiday.
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I hear ya. Luckily this phone has given me the patience to be able to wait for a holiday-type phone from ATT.
I didn't feel that way when I had the cappy. Two months with that phone and I was already begging ATT to come out with something better... The inspire will hold me over just fine.
The Holiday sounds like it is worth it, I am saving my money now so hopefully I have enough for it when it comes out(of-contract). Im predicting about $700.
(Dont hate Im too young still to work so I don't have a steady job)
ThEiiNoCeNT said:
The Holiday sounds like it is worth it, I am saving my money now so hopefully I have enough for it when it comes out(of-contract). Im predicting about $700.
(Dont hate Im too young still to work so I don't have a steady job)
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Judging by past HTC phones I would say it will more likely be around 500-600
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mudknot2005 said:
Definitely not I will never buy samsung unless its a tv or washer and dryer. My laptop crashed on me. So I had to buy a new one, which I got a somekin deal on, Thing has 6g ram, i5, 750g harddrive 17.3 inch screen, Ati graphics card with 1g dedicated ram, for 550 bucks.
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That's a hell of a laptop for that cost.
Simba501 said:
That's a hell of a laptop for that cost.
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Well it was a display model with the retailers software installed, it was originally listed for like 1000. I talked them down a little bit. The only the thing wrong with it is the keyboard is a little raised in one section but it doesn't effect the typing. So I had to buy it, because HP will still warranty it.
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mudknot2005 said:
Well it was a display model with the retailers software installed, it was originally listed for like 1000. I talked them down a little bit. The only the thing wrong with it is the keyboard is a little raised in one section but it doesn't effect the typing. So I had to buy it, because HP will still warranty it.
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Sir, that's a win.
Back on topic here. The article I read stated that even though HTC wll come up with a tool to unlock the bootloaders, it would require approval from the carriers to be released. What are the odds? This just seems like a big ploy to put the finger soley on the carriers.
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I couldn't live without the One X's _________

I get frustrated with HTC and AT&T and think about jumping ship, but now that I've had my 1X for a while, I just couldn't bear to give up the camera and associated app (mainly burst mode & the ability to take hi res stills while recording HD video).
I just wondered how many people felt the same and/or what that special feature is for you? Do you wish it was available on other phones? Or from other OEMs?
Billy
1. I hope you are not serious when you say you couldnt live without a phone
2. There is a Q&A section, maybe you need to address your questions there
3. See a doctor if #1 is true
JeepFreak said:
I get frustrated with HTC and AT&T and think about jumping ship, but now that I've had my 1X for a while, I just couldn't bear to give up the camera and associated app (mainly burst mode & the ability to take hi res stills while recording HD video).
I just wondered how many people felt the same and/or what that special feature is for you? Do you wish it was available on other phones? Or from other OEMs?
Billy
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sammy's gs3.... seriously...i cant tell which camera is better...between both..
with a good case...gs3 feels right...(source: my gf)
Couldn't live without the speed, screen and camera. I've also grown fond of LTE..
Oh and nandroid on the s4 is incredible..
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i absolutely love my One X, I don't think I could ever go without it. I love the camera and the speed. It was a little frustrating to deal with multitasking for a while but they sent out the update and fixed quickly. This is the kind of phone that looks like it had a lot of thought that went into designing it.
There were many times where I expected people to start jumping ship when it came to HTC, although I think they have redeemed themselves. HTC was releasing too many cheap phones too frequently. They needed to stop and focus on one phone or one series. This could not have payed of better for them.
For me the biggest thing is phone quality, it doesn't feel cheap and looks SO VERY SEXYYYYYY!
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speed. The speed on this thing is ridiculous. Oh and reading books on the train with it. rooting it (always reads wrong)
niceppl said:
sammy's gs3.... seriously...i cant tell which camera is better...between both..
with a good case...gs3 feels right...(source: my gf)
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Couldn't agree more. I'm still trying to decide which phone I want to keep. They are both awesome. I've been using the GS3 for a few days and its a great phone. I tried to go back to the HOX for a bit but I couldn't get data for some reason.
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Htc phone quality i dont believe needed redeeming. They have always offered amazing build quality. HTC, as a company needs redeeming, and this device has only sunk them deeper in that matter. Just mho.
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ChongoDroid said:
Couldn't live without the speed, screen and camera. I've also grown fond of LTE..
Oh and nandroid on the s4 is incredible..
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+1
Video recording in hd is excellent as well.
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18th.abn said:
Htc phone quality i dont believe needed redeeming. They have always offered amazing build quality. HTC, as a company needs redeeming, and this device has only sunk them deeper in that matter. Just mho.
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Why?
You guys are are too materialistic. I would be completely fine without my one x even though i like and use it a lot. I'll just move onto a different phone.
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Why?
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HTC was known for supporting their customers and thriving for the development that was made outside their walls. They their customer support and open source support along side their amazing devices set them apart from the other manufacturers. They made it clear publicly that they do, and will support us. With no more of a warning than a punch in the back of our heads they took that away. They sent out the hox and the Evo lte with a MUCH increased security. The devs went to work and accomplished a lot of feats to open the devices up. Now, this part of the journey was frustrating enough, and many attempts were made to reach out and let htc know how we felt as customers and nobody got anything more than 1pre written response. Written so any joe could open up and see their customers voice and simply hit a auto reply without even finishing reading what the customer had to say.
To put the icing on the cake, to really make that sucker punch they gave us into baseball bat they did what i believe was their lowest of all time. They took us, the same developer community they supported, applauded and learned from and used our work to cutoff all the exploits that were there. Unlocking exploits, rooting exploits they killed them. They even implemented new securities on developments that were being explored. EXPLORED. So, that is my opinion and my feelings on the issue. Thats why i could care less to see them file bankruptcy and disappear. They obviously could care less about me. Like i said its MHO i dont care who agrees or disagrees. Ive moved on to other manufacturers but remain active in trying to help this community.
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Well said.
I feel the same way about a lot of companies. Up until Apple's style of suing people I stayed pretty neutral in the android vs Apple thing. Now I'm looking to sell my Apple computer and replace every product even linked to them. Now that HTC is following a certain ****y path with security and developer support I'm thinking about doing something similar. I choose with my money and if HTC won't give me the experience I want them I'll let someone else take up the job. Maybe that new rumored nexus?
We'll see HTC.. we'll see
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ChongoDroid said:
I feel the same way about a lot of companies. Up until Apple's style of suing people I stayed pretty neutral in the android vs Apple thing. Now I'm looking to sell my Apple computer and replace every product even linked to them. Now that HTC is following a certain ****y path with security and developer support I'm thinking about doing something similar. I choose with my money and if HTC won't give me the experience I want them I'll let someone else take up the job. Maybe that new rumored nexus?
We'll see HTC.. we'll see
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I'm predicting htc will enter bankruptcy within a year. The mighty have fallen. The one x is a terrific phone but at&t ruined it.
Alcoholic said:
You guys are are too materialistic. I would be completely fine without my one x even though i like and use it a lot. I'll just move onto a different phone.
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And you're too literal! Christ man, I was just trying to fit the question in a limited amount of space.
Of course I could live without my HOX! I've got a Nexus 7 now!
Billy
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I'm predicting htc will enter bankruptcy within a year. The mighty have fallen. The one x is a terrific phone but at&t ruined it.
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Not a chance.. this has upset a handful of people at most. RIM might be gone.. but not HTC
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ChongoDroid said:
I feel the same way about a lot of companies. Up until Apple's style of suing people I stayed pretty neutral in the android vs Apple thing. Now I'm looking to sell my Apple computer and replace every product even linked to them. Now that HTC is following a certain ****y path with security and developer support I'm thinking about doing something similar. I choose with my money and if HTC won't give me the experience I want them I'll let someone else take up the job. Maybe that new rumored nexus?
We'll see HTC.. we'll see
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Agreed. I think choosing with our money is the only way...since HTC obviously does not seem to care about the benefits of this community
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Agreed. I think choosing with our money is the only way...since HTC obviously does not seem to care about the benefits of this community
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of course they care. They fixed the stupid 3 dot menu thing, thanks to us.

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