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Here's the article, have a read for yourself! I actually USE to like this site eventhough they basically copy and paste every article they get from better sites..
http://phandroid.com/2011/01/18/why-we-arent-running-a-story-on-the-claim-that-carriers-are-refusing-to-pay-samsung-for-android-2-2-updates/#comment-330057
D: I love phandroid but, that's a bit low.
Easy there. Before we all go midieval on that posting, consider this: XDA is a site of hackers. We all hack to get better devices. A Cracker is someone who breaks stuff just to wreak havoc.
So it's not actually that a big insult. Unless they said xda-developers themselves isn't to be taken seriously, THEN it's an insult. They just talk about a forum post with no real source to back it up.
Just my 2 cents.
Oh, and keep it civil, ok?
You know, it's nice to call everyone a "hacker" and all, but the people on here do good work, and are directly responsible for some of the best features of android coming to fruition.
Sorry, I'm not a big Phandroid "phan" to begin with. Their community is very nice, very diverse, but their actual ability as internet technology reporters is troublingly poor.
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Easy there. Before we all go midieval on that posting, consider this: XDA is a site of hackers. We all hack to get better devices. A Cracker is someone who breaks stuff just to wreak havoc.
So it's not actually that a big insult. Unless they said xda-developers themselves isn't to be taken seriously, THEN it's an insult. They just talk about a forum post with no real source to back it up.
Just my 2 cents.
Oh, and keep it civil, ok?
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The context is assumed to mean a cracker. Whether that's meant to be implied or not, I simply think it just is.
I think it's funny how a lot of the rooting forums for the phones there link to this site, but it's okay to insult XDA despite using the information and files these "hackers" make. XDA is not a site of hackers, but a site of developers. The site and community do not condone hacking, or piracy. Also, it was one forum member that wasn't even a part of the community at all, he joined to post it as to get a reaction it seems like.
I got the impression that Phandroid was beat up a little by their following, and received too many questions about why they weren't reporting the same crap. Their frustration showed. To me, it was more about the situation and the questions, and kind of came out as a little bit of a slap to XDA. Serious and egregious? Not really.
I wholeheartedly agree with the content of the article. The point was simple: there was one post, with no confirmation or source or reputable basis. I see their point and agree with it. The delivery could have been a bit better. But really, look at any of the sites. They are all littered with spelling and grammatical errors, and could use a huge boost of professionalism. Some are worse than others, but I've (sadly) grown to expect some of the drivel and crap that comes with "news".
Users here hack their phones. How would that not make them hackers? I honestly don't see the big deal here.
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The context is assumed to mean a cracker. Whether that's meant to be implied or not, I simply think it just is.
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i agree with you on this, that's why i posted it... I think of the XDA community as a developer community. I mean I don't see any illegal file sharing on here as you would a "Hacker" community..
I just find it a little idiotic that this guy said that a source making a statement on this site isn't credible, yet someone posting to another site is. All phandroid ever does is copy/paste from other Android news sites and they act like they have some first rate News Reporters that they deem what's real news and what isn't...
hi guys - as my inspire comrades, i'd love to offer you guys spotify invites. it's through this cool service i found called klout that measures your influence via social networks. they give you cool perks (ie spotify invites). anyways, here's the link: http://klout.com/perk/Spotify/Spoti...eeb5e4309f4a1e38f2a120afc3953fb10d7a27e7bf964
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Let me start this off by saying that I respect and love our mods for all their great work.
However, I have seen more and more in the past month or month.5 that many of the threads in this subforum have been closed. Some because they're no longer relevant for whatever purpose (which is a good thing), but other select threads are closed because they are off topic. The question I pose is why do some off-topic threads have to be closed?
Granted, this is a forum for developers and for phone support, applications, questions, etc, it is also a community. and because it's a community within a community (inspire users), I'd like to be able to have few off-topic conversations without them being closed by the mods. This is also the general subforum and therefore, I think it's appropriate if I want to start a slightly off-topic conversation with my fellow inspire users.
I understand the fact that sometimes off-topic threads can cause clutter, but I think thats most relevant in the case of multiple threads of the same topic.
disclaimer: conan, this post was not really inspired by you asking the other user to use the off-topic forum in the other spotify invite thread, but is a result of various threads i've seen closed recently. also, as i mentioned earlier, i would like to share the spotify invites with my fellow inspire users, not other random people that happen to also be browsing the off-topic forum.
lastly, i'd like to thank all of you amazing people for making my experience with the inspire so freaking awesome. this goes from the devs to the other people like me that respect and love the devs' work to the noobs without who we would be so peaceful and happy without having to tell them to search
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I appreciate what your saying about the fact that you'd rather offer these to another inspire user, not just the first random OT user to jump on your thread.
That said, there is an undeniable problem at the moment with clutter on the forums.
While your post is entirely genereous and well intentioned it is not strictly "on topic". I know this may seem petty but if we (the moderation team) are to bring the forums back into line the way they used to be, we need to be consistent in our actions.
You may not have asked for my opinion but I'll offer it anyway..
I would have just picked out a couple of members you'd like to donate these invites to and PM'd them, your two fav devs or someones who's helped you with a problem for example. Perhaps even your friendly forum moderator (just kidding).
I'm not gonna close your thread right now because like I said, I appreciate the intention behind it but let me know when they are claimed so I can close it and prevent it turning into a "Where can I get an invite??" thread...
Cheers.
I know this seems contrary to XDA's recent apparent policy of consolidating the number of forums rather than expanding, but maybe a community/off-topic board for various high-traffic devices would be in order.
I also have Spotify, but no invites, and would highly recommend you take this generous guy up on his offer.
conantroutman said:
I appreciate what your saying about the fact that you'd rather offer these to another inspire user, not just the first random OT user to jump on your thread.
That said, there is an undeniable problem at the moment with clutter on the forums.
While your post is entirely genereous and well intentioned it is not strictly "on topic". I know this may seem petty but if we (the moderation team) are to bring the forums back into line the way they used to be, we need to be consistent in our actions.
You may not have asked for my opinion but I'll offer it anyway..
I would have just picked out a couple of members you'd like to donate these invites to and PM'd them, your two fav devs or someones who's helped you with a problem for example. Perhaps even your friendly forum moderator (just kidding).
I'm not gonna close your thread right now because like I said, I appreciate the intention behind it but let me know when they are claimed so I can close it and prevent it turning into a "Where can I get an invite??" thread...
Cheers.
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whenever i rant, i like to hear opinions from everyone that i'm ranting about. so thanks for your opinion what do you think about having an inspire off-topic subforum? i feel that since the Q&A section popped up, the general section has been MUCH cleaner, so props for that! maybe this well help too, maybe not. oh well.
and also thanks for the advice about PM'ing people - i'll try that next time.
FYI - there's 1 invite left via the link in the OP
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whenever i rant, i like to hear opinions from everyone that i'm ranting about. so thanks for your opinion what do you think about having an inspire off-topic subforum? i feel that since the Q&A section popped up, the general section has been MUCH cleaner, so props for that! maybe this well help too, maybe not. oh well.
and also thanks for the advice about PM'ing people - i'll try that next time.
FYI - there's 1 invite left via the link in the OP
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Thanks, I was able to grab that final invite
cool glad i could help you guys out.
all set conan, thanks!!
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I know this seems contrary to XDA's recent apparent policy of consolidating the number of forums rather than expanding, but maybe a community/off-topic board for various high-traffic devices would be in order.
I also have Spotify, but no invites, and would highly recommend you take this generous guy up on his offer.
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Your the second person to bring this up. Are you guys conspiring against me
Initially I refused, as I've tried it elsewhere and it was a spectacular failure.
I will however, consult the oracle and see what he/she/it says....
@the op, gonna close this now if we are all done. Thanks for the rant
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
before i start this thread please understand i have been "stalking" this site and the forums gaining much knowledge of the devices i use and have owned... in NO way am i trying to bad talk any general mod or admin in anyway and dont mean for this to be insulting to anyone...
my question(s) is:
Why do most if not ALL moderators feel the need to threaten people in EVERY forum... now i can understand if there is a person swearing at someone... but honestly most of you flaunt your BAN powers a little to much... as if we cant see your "moderator" title and know when to shut up and grow up till you leave jk lol
now with that said i understand some of you have a life outside xda... and may get a little "pissy" then log on to XDA and see 50 PM's about a person or forum being out of control... you then go in there with a chip on your shoulder and not only get MORE pissed off... but make someone pissed off or upset by your NerdRage banhammer powers of steel
i think you need to understand that we are people too... just as you are... we are no perfect and do not mean to make mistakes... but with that SO DO YOU... so please if any moderators read this next time you "clean" a thread and decide to leave a cocky comment regarding your powers of vacation giving... try politely telling the general public to do what you ask...
(PLEASE INSERT USER FOR PEOPLE... IF YOUR A IGNORANT PERSON THAT THINKS EVERYONE IS FACELESS OVER THE INTERNET)
i really enjoyed xda a year or so ago... when it wasnt so violent and people where nice... but i think XDA moderators should set an example of those who are rude... and be the bigger person rather than blatantly abuse there privilege's
let this thread die... or comment i dont care... hell even ban me or send me on a vacation... some one needed to say this in my opinion... and obviously many people on here CANT have that very thing without someone *****ing at them.. or stepping on someones toes
hope XDA can start this new year off better than the last one ended
thanks
The short version: It's their JOB
The longer version. They are responsible for helping to keep XDA a innovative thriving board that has a wide range of users from a wide variety of different backgrounds and experiance. They not only have to deal with keeping the regular userbase happy but they have to ensure xda remains a productive and successful family friendly (for the most part) website, and in doing this they deal with alot of stupidity, trolls, spambots, incorrectly placed posts, whingers, drunkards, spammers, scammers, noobs, rickrolls, memes, tired old jokes, and self entitled douches (to name a few).
Some people may behave when they know a mod is watching whist others may continue being dumbasses or annoying or breaching the rules and may require a more firm approach. (Although in my oppinion a warning is not a firm approach, a flat out ban or suspension without a warning is). XDA is a informitive treasure-trove of awesomeness that covers a wide veriety of tablets, phones, programs and platforms, and whats more? ITS FREE! Sure feel free to whinge about being warned for a percived infraction but really you should be taking it up with the mod who did it or other mods cause this type of thread will get you no where. Believe it or not the tolerence level here is pretty high, as long as you post in the correct areas and make a minimal attempt to remain on topic, they are not too hard and if you are feeling like being stupid, they even provide a forum for people to be stupid in (check out the off topic section, I do regularly. Its funny..... sometimes.)
SO in the end you can either be in here whinging or out there making productive use of yours and your phones time, otherwise there is that little X in the top corner of your screen.
And remember:
I tell you. Most moderators take this site to seriously. It's like it's their baby, also some of them are very sad And have nothing better to do than ban people.
Really you just have to put up with people that don't have a life outside this forum.
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That ban threat that you are talking about is a generic copy and paste message. Why should they type out a personalized message to the hundreds of people breaking the rules everyday? And it really isn't a threat. If you continue to break the rules, you WILL be banned.
Quote who you are talking to
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hungry81 said:
The short version: It's their JOB
The longer version. They are responsible for helping to keep XDA a innovative thriving board that has a wide range of users from a wide variety of different backgrounds and experiance. They not only have to deal with keeping the regular userbase happy but they have to ensure xda remains a productive and successful family friendly (for the most part) website, and in doing this they deal with alot of stupidity, trolls, spambots, incorrectly placed posts, whingers, drunkards, spammers, scammers, noobs, rickrolls, memes, tired old jokes, and self entitled douches (to name a few).
Some people may behave when they know a mod is watching whist others may continue being dumbasses or annoying or breaching the rules and may require a more firm approach. (Although in my oppinion a warning is not a firm approach, a flat out ban or suspension without a warning is). XDA is a informitive treasure-trove of awesomeness that covers a wide veriety of tablets, phones, programs and platforms, and whats more? ITS FREE! Sure feel free to whinge about being warned for a percived infraction but really you should be taking it up with the mod who did it or other mods cause this type of thread will get you no where. Believe it or not the tolerence level here is pretty high, as long as you post in the correct areas and make a minimal attempt to remain on topic, they are not too hard and if you are feeling like being stupid, they even provide a forum for people to be stupid in (check out the off topic section, I do regularly. Its funny..... sometimes.)
SO in the end you can either be in here whinging or out there making productive use of yours and your phones time, otherwise there is that little X in the top corner of your screen.
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i have YET to get WARNED or ANYTHING from a moderator... this is a general question from all the **** i seen on man forums where the moderator feels the need to taunt and belittle people... this is a FREE site... but in no way should people feel like **** because a moderator is being a asshole...
and people like you (ignorant ****s) are the reason why people get defensive and trash talk each other and argue....
maybe after this post i will be yelled at for swearing but again this isnt about ME getting yelled at and complaining.... this is ME standing up for the people who dont get a warning for anything but get banned... and it has happened and for you to say" you shouldnt get a warning it should be a ban or vacation" just shows how arrogant you are... bet if i track through ALL of your recent posts/threads you havent helped one person without being a **** about it first...
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i have YET to get WARNED or ANYTHING from a moderator... this is a general question from all the **** i seen on man forums where the moderator feels the need to taunt and belittle people... this is a FREE site... but in no way should people feel like **** because a moderator is being a asshole...
and people like you (ignorant ****s) are the reason why people get defensive and trash talk each other and argue....
maybe after this post i will be yelled at for swearing but again this isnt about ME getting yelled at and complaining.... this is ME standing up for the people who dont get a warning for anything but get banned... and it has happened and for you to say" you shouldnt get a warning it should be a ban or vacation" just shows how arrogant you are... bet if i track through ALL of your recent posts/threads you havent helped one person without being a **** about it first...
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Lol its a crusader on the internets fighting for the rights of the downtrodden and abused on all forums everywhere, One day we will break free of this dictatorship and take the forums for the common man.
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WAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAA No one tells me what to do ill tell my mummy and she will get you in trouble. My mummy says I can do what I want and you can't do any thing .
Actually your post and general whining reminds me of this:
close to the end of 2015 and alot of mods are still huge jerks who think they have power over any and everyone.
r.sorujlall said:
close to the end of 2015 and alot of mods are still huge jerks who think they have power over any and everyone.
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I can tell you first hand the Moderates on this site are some of the best people I've ever encountered anywhere. And they have a site with near 7 million members to watch over. Then along come people who got "in trouble" for breaking the rules that they agreed to when they registered, calling moderators power tripping jerks. :silly:
Well, I will need to disagree. The tolerance most show amazes me at times. If you only knew the messages we often receive. Again, an incredible group of people here selflessly donating their time, for free, to help keep this site great.
All that said, me, myself, I lean to the jerk side.
Thread closed. 3 years late, but well deserved. :good:
Darth
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Man this forum is already starting to look worse than the G3 threads, where it's full of the same stuff, over and over, everyone needs to keep their mouths shut and quit asking about the fix to this phone and let the Dev's do their damn job. Keep in mind that they DON'T have to do a damn thing for no one. It isn't like you bought the phone and it came with a leaflet stating, "oh, btw, to do any mods on your phone, you will get service here" sheeez...all anyone is doing is pissing off the people we need to help.
Let the bashing begin, I can take it. This is my opinion only!
This is the "general" section.
As long as it relates to the phone in some regard people can say what they want.
In before the lock.
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This is the "general" section.
As long as it relates to the phone in some regard people can say what they want.
In before the lock.
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Thanks, I am just getting frustrated, that you start reading some threads, and most of them are getting hijacked with the same ole stuff, put it in one area, and delete it from the rest.
As far as banning me, so be it, by the time I return the forum might just be cleaned. I am NOT the only person that has already thought of this. If it would make everyone happy, I reported myself for this thread to be deleted.
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Man this forum is already starting to look worse than the G3 threads, where it's full of the same stuff, over and over, everyone needs to keep their mouths shut and quit asking about the fix to this phone and let the Dev's do their damn job. Keep in mind that they DON'T have to do a damn thing for no one. It isn't like you bought the phone and it came with a leaflet stating, "oh, btw, to do any mods on your phone, you will get service here" sheeez...all anyone is doing is pissing off the people we need to help.
Let the bashing begin, I can take it. This is my opinion only!
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this is the internet, what are you sincerely expecting?
Thread closed...If anyone wants opinions, go log on to social media for them. This here is a development site, contribute to that or log off - do not clutter threads with this stuff.
To clarify a couple other points, the general section of any thread is NOT for opinions like this, so it is not okay. Nor is creating this type of flotsam and jetsum and then self-reporting it while being self righteous in the process. When you accepted membership here, you agreed to post by the rules, and this thread is a great example of what not to do.
Oh yeah, always help a new user, and if you are confronted with disrespectful users, report the posts, and do not feed trolls or trollers.... Moderators are standing by to assist.
That is way some good devs left to other android forums. Like in any business growing big (from old times with 10 device forums, to the present, with "n"), the rules multiply, more & more restrictions, the anchor in real life is smaller with every day, and the thing that devs are humans with daily problems & mind lapsus for some links and minor stuff won't matter for some. Have a nice day.
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And now watch XDA close this thread. Rules are rules my friend, even if it was a simple mistake by seb, rules still apply. If there was no rules and everyone did as the pleased then there would be no XDA. The mods aint trying to be horrible or mean but if they dont stick by they're own rules then what chance has this site got. Thats just my opinion.
i don't care if this thread will be closed. as user of this site = the person who make traffic, who read topics and forums, and finally, i can say i'm the final consumer of this site ( you could name me client), i'm pissed off because that thread is closed, so i cannot find answers to my problems with the software provided by that thread. in legal terms, my rights are restricted here! i'm not talking about the developer, i'm talking about me, final consumer of this site, i'm the person on behalf this site, and without me as consumer, this site would not exist! SO, THIS IS ABOUT MY RIGHTS HERE! I HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT ONE SOFTWARE, AND I CANNOT BECAUSE SOMEBODY RESTRICTED MY RIGHT TO ACCESS THAT. => XDA UNLOCK THE THREAD, BECAUSE YOU AFFECT THE PEOPLE WICH GIVE A REASON FOR YOU TO EXIST! Have a nice day.
Chill man, mods are just doing their job and there's been a q&a thread dedicated to Sebastian's ROM in the q&a section so you can ask anything you want there
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i don't care if this thread will be closed. as user of this site = the person who make traffic, who read topics and forums, and finally, i can say i'm the final consumer of this site ( you could name me client), i'm pissed off because that thread is closed, so i cannot find answers to my problems with the software provided by that thread. in legal terms, my rights are restricted here! i'm not talking about the developer, i'm talking about me, final consumer of this site, i'm the person on behalf this site, and without me as consumer, this site would not exist! SO, THIS IS ABOUT MY RIGHTS HERE! I HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT ONE SOFTWARE, AND I CANNOT BECAUSE SOMEBODY RESTRICTED MY RIGHT TO ACCESS THAT. => XDA UNLOCK THE THREAD, BECAUSE YOU AFFECT THE PEOPLE WICH GIVE A REASON FOR YOU TO EXIST! Have a nice day.
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hahaha jeez dont take that tone of typing with me boy!! lol. if u read threads like u said u would of seen this [FAQ] Q&A, Troubleshooting, Help For SebastianFM [ROM] Revelation 1.0.0 | JB |. Simples. chillout
That thread is not the original, and you are missing the point here, "boy". I didn't talk with you, u don't know how old I am and what are my studies, so, watch your language.
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That thread is not the original, and you are missing the point here, "boy". I didn't talk with you, u don't know how old I am and what are my studies, so, watch your language.
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i know its not the original thread, but if uv a question then u can ask there. im not missing the point, the simple fact is rules r rules and us as users have to stick to them, the rules r the same if ur just an average user of xda or dev and if u dont stick to them then this is what happens. ur making a big deal over nothing, the thread will be open soon so just relax. i wasnt actually calling u a boy, its just where im from they use the word boy alot, like "alright boy hows things"? personally i dont care if ur 10 or 50
also u could have a read at this coz im guessing u havnt
[MANDATORY] RULES FOR DEVELOPMENT
Seb left? I don't get what you guys are arguing over, and I don't actually know what happened. But I do feel what OP about treating developers, because at end of the day, we, users of this site are being affected. I am not saying don't have rules, I am saying judge on the situation. Someone trolling is not the same as a good dev making a mistake. Even a big mistake, he/she should be given a chance due to the commitment they have put into this site and joy brought to fans in the past. Rules are important, but when people forget what rules are intended for then why do we even have them in the first place? If more and more dev leaves this site, the rules will be useless because no one will be using it. Like I said, I am not defending Seb because I don't even know what he did, instead just making a point. We have yet another good dev left sensation...
Problem solved. This tread could be closed.
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Pointless rants are not required, i suggest you dont comment on matters you know nothing about.
This forum is about developers, for developers. Its not for people to have a general moan. Dont like it? try somewhere else.