USB Host a 2TB Hard Drive (NTFS) - Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Is this possible? I have been reading forums and only catch things here and there
about it but nothing confirming it. I have rooted my xoom and installed the
1.4ghz OC kernel. I have the OTG cable and when I connect it to my xoom with
my hard drive I don't see anything happen. I would appreciate if someone could
confirm if this works or not and point me in the right direction as to how to set it
up.
Thanks in advance

i got my USB OTG usb stick working today, thx to @bigrushdog will try a 1tb hard disk toda.
meanwhile, read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1093720
it should help to clear things up, as you are not the only one with the problem!

I can`t mount NTFS on Tiamat 1.4.2
On 1.3.2 and 1.4.0 everything was ok

sjgosha said:
I can`t mount NTFS on Tiamat 1.4.2
On 1.3.2 and 1.4.0 everything was ok
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With this my 1.4.2 worked great with a Seagate 1TB external on a USB powered hub:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13337600&postcount=6
Hope the link helps ya out!

Thanks for the reply
OK i mount 1 TB NTFS Hard Drive but I can`t mount my 64 GB FlashDrive
the output of /dev/block is nothing
On tiamat 1.3.2 Everything was great
Anybody please check your NTFS flash drive
Btrgs

sjgosha said:
Thanks for the reply
OK i mount 1 TB NTFS Hard Drive but I can`t mount my 64 GB FlashDrive
the output of /dev/block is nothing
On tiamat 1.3.2 Everything was great
Anybody please check your NTFS flash drive
Btrgs
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Having exact same issue, can mount the powered drive via usb no problem, but usb sticks - no luck

im having no luck
tiamat 1.4.4
3.1
Running NTFS Mount, selecting sda1 to mount and it says:
Attempting to mount
Mount failed...
I am trying on a 2GB NTFS Formatted USB Stick.
I am only testing as I gave my 500gb NTFS External to a friend for the weekend and wasnt having any luck with that either although I havent tested it out with NTFS Mount.
Is there anything else I should be doing?

In 1.4.4. I was able to mount my 160gb NTFS drive, however it would NOT stay mounted...
I've switched back to 1.4.3. Testing now and it seems to be fine...
After 10 minutes it also unmounted itself...This is an older drive, not sure if its going bad, but it wasnt doing this before 1.4.4
Edit: if I unplug and remount it remounts fine...weird!
Edit2: USB Sticks and memory cards work just fine

Using the Motorola Camera Connection kit (their OTG cable):
No problem mounting a USB Stick at 16 GB formatted as FAT32 or EXT2
Recognizes the same stick and tried to mount if NTFS, but then "freaks" out (NTFS Mount can't actually mount it as NTFS, and File System gets confused) and is unable to read write.
Does not recognize either of my "self powered" USB external drives (1TB and 4TB) - no /dev/sda or /dev/sda1 appears in /dev/block unlike with the USB Stick.
This is with the Tiamat 3.1 and Kernel 1.4.4.

I heard 2TB harddrives work as well.
I don't have any proof though.

although USB is a preferred power method and a constant output of 5V (around about there)
Sometimes, the xoom is not powerful enough to power self powered hard drives, but if they come with a PSU then youll be fine.
As for Usb Sticks, thats beyond me however i think they may suffer from the same issue.
Remember, the Xoom is battery only and is not designed to be a USB power pocket unlike say, the transformer.

EwanG said:
Using the Motorola Camera Connection kit (their OTG cable):
No problem mounting a USB Stick at 16 GB formatted as FAT32 or EXT2
Recognizes the same stick and tried to mount if NTFS, but then "freaks" out (NTFS Mount can't actually mount it as NTFS, and File System gets confused) and is unable to read write.
Does not recognize either of my "self powered" USB external drives (1TB and 4TB) - no /dev/sda or /dev/sda1 appears in /dev/block unlike with the USB Stick.
This is with the Tiamat 3.1 and Kernel 1.4.4.
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I can verify that my self-powered ntfs 750GB HDD works fine on HC3.2 with the Tiamat Rom 2.0 Manta Ray, when I use the free USB Mass Storage Watcher OTG app. This app also works for my 16GB FAT32 thumb drive.

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[Q] NTFS Support on Vegan 5.1 Beta?

Am I doing something wrong or is NTFS not supported on Vegan 5.1?
I have tried sdcard2, a USB Thumb Drive, and USB HD all with NTFS, Vegan 5.1 does not see them says it is empty or invalid disk. As soon as I go to FAT32, works like a champ. My computer sees all 3 when formated with NTFS and I can write and read from them.
I would like NTFS so I can store large movie files for when I travel.
Thank you
Have you tried this? I beleive you still have to mount the drive manually
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10154595&postcount=27
Moved to general
I am on Vegan 5.1 with clempatchvegan10.9.8IPv6PPOEProxy and the WIFIFIXproxy kernal updates (post 239 of Clemsyn's KERNAL corner post) and use Mount Manager from the Market to mount the files systems. I am able to mount and access my SMB networked NAS or the C drive (Vista NTFS) on my laptop without any issues. I suggest you try Mount Manager to see if it helps with your situation.
Bob

[Q]NTFS formatted microsd

i know the usb ports on the dock supprt ntfs read/write but has anyone tried ntfs formatted microsd? i wont be able to check mine til i get home. but i would't see why it can't. it would be nice to store an 8 GB video file on the sdcard. even if the tf wouldn't be able to play it
i'm pretty sue clockwork won't get along with ntfs though.
where did you hear the dock supported NTFS? to my understanding linux can't read that so nothing on the device should be able to support NTFS.
neok44 said:
where did you hear the dock supported NTFS? to my understanding linux can't read that so nothing on the device should be able to support NTFS.
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Actually linux reads (and write) NTFS quite fine.
For NTFS support linux uses NTFS-3g (free) or Tuxera (commercial). The questions is - did Asus add NTFS drivers? Some users of Transformer say it did and that it works.
Magnesus said:
Actually linux reads (and write) NTFS quite fine.
For NTFS support linux uses NTFS-3g (free) or Tuxera (commercial). The questions is - did Asus add NTFS drivers? Some users of Transformer say it did and that it works.
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interesting. I just figured that since all the android devices have never supported NTFS, at least the ones i've owned.
if i had a blank SD card i'd try it for you, but all mine have way to much data on it to try.
If at least the USB ports work thats nice cause i can then move my HD movies onto a 32GB flash drive. instead of trying to somehow get them under 4GB.
Honeycomb does not have native NTFS support built into the kernel but there is a custom ROM available that has this feature quoted "The Transformer's first custom kernel with CIFS/TUN/NTFS compiled in"
See: "[ROM] PRIME! v1.2 | Fast | Rooted | Deodexed" in the dev section of this forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052380
I have no idea if this would help with the NTFS microSD access you asked about.
I just formatted to NTFS on a class 10 wintec 16gb microsd. Doesn't work. I'm on stock honeycomb.
Back to fat32 i go!
3DSammy said:
Honeycomb does not have native NTFS support built into the kernel but there is a custom ROM available that has this feature quoted "The Transformer's first custom kernel with CIFS/TUN/NTFS compiled in"
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Maybe the people that reported NTFS working used this kernel. I didn't pay attention to what they were writing much because am not using NTFS. But I was almost sure they were talking about a Transformer with stock firmware. Well aparently I was wrong, sorry for spreading misinformation.
ntfs formatted western digital passport does work very well on the usb port though....strange that microsd doesn't
At the time of my initial test i was using paul's rom from modaco. There wasn't any mention of ntfs support in the notes. Eifher i missed the note or he corgot to include the change.
Fyi archos tabets support ntfs read.
From what I read the NTFS support was add in the v1.2 release of that PRIME custom ROM. Maybe you were using an earlier version. The last edit of that forum post was "6th May 2011 at 12:55 AM" which I assume was when the new PRIME ROM v1.2 version was released.
i didn't try th prime rom til yesterday.i was on modaco while doingthe exthd test.
did a noob thing hereand posted efore searching .someon else asked the question and said the stock tf bas ntfs support otb according to the manual. i havent pulled mine out yet to verify.
Bump, trying to figure out if prime 1.3 will support NTFS SDCARD.
I am running Stock TF101 with 3.1 Android and the dock supports NTFS USB Media and Sd-Card NTFS Media very well.
So NTFS with any media that connects to the dock works, at least all i could get hold of these included some USB-Sticks from 512 MB to 8 GB and USB 3.0 2.5" 1TB HDD. Also SD-Cards and my microSD in an SD Adapter works.
But here comes the strange part if i remove the microSD out of the Adapter and put it into the tablet it won't work. Yes the same card that worked 10 seconds before in the dock.
For anyone that finds this thread in the future: The MicroSD card is expected to be FAT formatted and therefore, will not automatically mount if it is NTFS. But, since NTFS is supported on the tablet, you can manually mount the MicroSD and it will work fine when formatted as NTFS. You'll need root and someway to run the below commands.
Mount:
Code:
mkdir /data/Removable/MicroSD
mount /dev/block/vold/179\:9 /data/Removable/MicroSD
rtadams89 said:
For anyone that finds this thread in the future: The MicroSD card is expected to be FAT formatted and therefore, will not automatically mount if it is NTFS. But, since NTFS is supported on the tablet, you can manually mount the MicroSD and it will work fine when formatted as NTFS. You'll need root and someway to run the below commands.
Mount:
Code:
mkdir /data/Removable/MicroSD
mount /dev/block/vold/179\:9 /data/Removable/MicroSD
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I've tried entering the script in Terminal Emulator, but get
"Usage: mount [-r] [-w].... etc.."
This means there's something wrong with the code?
Found this thread through google search. I have a 32gb patriot class 10 micro sd card - just formatted to ntfs and android 3.2 reads it natively. Not yet rooted either.
I too, am on a stock Android 3.2 with a NTFS formated 32 GB class 10 microSDHC. My Asus Transformer tablet works fine, and can read files off of the memory card. I haven't tried the dock's memory card reading slot, but I presume it'll just work the same.
hyperxi said:
I've tried entering the script in Terminal Emulator, but get
"Usage: mount [-r] [-w].... etc.."
This means there's something wrong with the code?
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You should be able to navigate into the actual directory:
/dev/block/vold/179 ...
If not, it might be elsewhere, slightly different location, like
/dev/block/vold/<another number?>
or
/dev/block/<another directory>/179
etc.
Once you find the actual flash directory it should be easy to mount to a known location. I am not rooted so I can not look on mine for differences.
What this implies... it might require a script or configuration to auto mount in any configuration. On LINUX this is handled a bunch of different ways depending on the kernel version, and likely similar on Android OS.
Good luck.
hoang51 said:
I too, am on a stock Android 3.2 with a NTFS formated 32 GB class 10 microSDHC. My Asus Transformer tablet works fine, and can read files off of the memory card. I haven't tried the dock's memory card reading slot, but I presume it'll just work the same.
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Confirmed! Same here I have 16GB ADATA class 10 microSDHC, NTFS formated. Works on my tablet not root just stock 3.2.

NTFS format hard drive for stock rom?

What size ntfs do I need to format the hard drive in so the stock rom will read it? I'm using revolver so I don't know. Just confirmed 2 people not being able to read their hard drive because they're on stock. I'll have to reformat.
don't format as NTFS because Android won't read/write to it. Use vFAT/FAT32 - it may be worth giving ExFAT a go, but it probably won't work.
I have a 750 GB USB hard drive formatted as NTFS, and the TF can read and write
it with no problems when connected to a USB port on the keyboard dock or on the
tablet, using the Asus USB adapter.
I'm rooted, but using the stock ROMs on HC 3.2.1.
Works here, too - 500 GB Transcend External HDD formatted as NTFS.
Stock 3.2.1, no root.
davebugyi said:
Works here, too - 500 GB Transcend External HDD formatted as NTFS.
Stock 3.2.1, no root.
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You sure? NTFS what allocation size? I already got 2 people telling me the drive wouldn't work on their stock. When I plug it into mine, it works instantly.
Anyway, I'm formatting it in fat32 and sending it back to them.
Heck, I'll nvflash back to stock non-rooted to test these out myself.
goodintentions said:
You sure? NTFS what allocation size? I already got 2 people telling me the drive wouldn't work on their stock. When I plug it into mine, it works instantly.
Anyway, I'm formatting it in fat32 and sending it back to them.
Heck, I'll nvflash back to stock non-rooted to test these out myself.
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Of course I'm sure, I have 2 6GB files on them, which cannot be achieved in FAT32. Also the drive works on my friends Iconia A500. And the last time when I formatted a HDD into FAT32 was when I was using Windows ME
BTW, Allocation size 4096 Bytes.
I move my NTFS-formatted USB drive between my Windows XP PC and the Transformer (rooted/stock ROM/HC 3.2.1) all the time.
Need NTFS module
Hi
I have rooted TF(Revolver+Clemsyn). NTFS do work fine though I had to copy over NTFS.ko manually.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18023335#post18023335
Well. Colour me both surprised and impressed then!
I just got a confirmation from someone. His stock rom fully updated can only read fat32.
How come some of you with stock can read ntfs? I don't get it.
Latest 3.2.1 Stock WW - and it was never a problem. My External HDD is a one plug USB drive tho, so no need for extra power source. Looks like you're screwed
I downloaded an app called Drive Mount and that enabled NTFS for me, it might work natively now but I haven't uninstalled to find out so try that our - 'Drive Mount' on the Android market.
EDIT: I should specify that I can use both AC powered external hard drives and USB powered hard drives on my TF.

Any roms work with NTFS external HDD

I have tried EOS and CM10 but system can't recognize my seagate 1.5 TB external hard drive. It shows something connected to the device but can't mount it and can't see the content.
I use external power for the hard drive so I think the power should not be a problem.
Is there anyone have any ROMs suggested that may work with NTFS HDD?
Thanks,
HJ

[Q] USB OTG won't mount or unmount, but still able to read

Hey guys, just got a Unitek Micro SD Card Reader (SN:131000001778) with a 32gb micro sd card. I hooked it up using Stickmount, I can access the memory card, but when I go to unmount it, nothing happens and when I pull the reader, I get "USB storage unexpectedly removed". I uninstalled Stickmount and loaded USB OTG Helper, when I hook up the reader and hit mount I get-
"Mount started at: /storage/UsbOtgDrives"
"No drives mounted! (code 9)"
When pressing unmount, I get-
"No drives found to unmount!' Of course.
Is there any way to get it to mount or unmount, and am I possibly looking at data corruption if I'm unable to get the drive to mount or unmount when inserting or unplugging it?
Solved: Kinda
Guess I have to use Settings/Storage to mount and unmount usb storage. Still doesn't explain why Stickmount and USB OTG Helper do not work. Is it an Android 4.x limitation?
Stickmount works just fine with my Meenova... not sure why it wouldn't work unless that OTG is not compatible...
ldubs said:
Stickmount works just fine with my Meenova... not sure why it wouldn't work unless that OTG is not compatible...
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Not sure why, I just got done using it and unmount through settings works perfectly. I just uninstalled USB Otg Helper and it still unmounts fine. I'm not gonna worry about it unless my data starts getting corrupted which it shouldn't now or I use a rom or kernel that doesn't have USB Otg built in which would be a rarity now a days.

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