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[Q]NTFS formatted microsd

i know the usb ports on the dock supprt ntfs read/write but has anyone tried ntfs formatted microsd? i wont be able to check mine til i get home. but i would't see why it can't. it would be nice to store an 8 GB video file on the sdcard. even if the tf wouldn't be able to play it
i'm pretty sue clockwork won't get along with ntfs though.

where did you hear the dock supported NTFS? to my understanding linux can't read that so nothing on the device should be able to support NTFS.

neok44 said:
where did you hear the dock supported NTFS? to my understanding linux can't read that so nothing on the device should be able to support NTFS.
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Actually linux reads (and write) NTFS quite fine.
For NTFS support linux uses NTFS-3g (free) or Tuxera (commercial). The questions is - did Asus add NTFS drivers? Some users of Transformer say it did and that it works.

Magnesus said:
Actually linux reads (and write) NTFS quite fine.
For NTFS support linux uses NTFS-3g (free) or Tuxera (commercial). The questions is - did Asus add NTFS drivers? Some users of Transformer say it did and that it works.
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interesting. I just figured that since all the android devices have never supported NTFS, at least the ones i've owned.
if i had a blank SD card i'd try it for you, but all mine have way to much data on it to try.
If at least the USB ports work thats nice cause i can then move my HD movies onto a 32GB flash drive. instead of trying to somehow get them under 4GB.

Honeycomb does not have native NTFS support built into the kernel but there is a custom ROM available that has this feature quoted "The Transformer's first custom kernel with CIFS/TUN/NTFS compiled in"
See: "[ROM] PRIME! v1.2 | Fast | Rooted | Deodexed" in the dev section of this forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052380
I have no idea if this would help with the NTFS microSD access you asked about.

I just formatted to NTFS on a class 10 wintec 16gb microsd. Doesn't work. I'm on stock honeycomb.
Back to fat32 i go!

3DSammy said:
Honeycomb does not have native NTFS support built into the kernel but there is a custom ROM available that has this feature quoted "The Transformer's first custom kernel with CIFS/TUN/NTFS compiled in"
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Maybe the people that reported NTFS working used this kernel. I didn't pay attention to what they were writing much because am not using NTFS. But I was almost sure they were talking about a Transformer with stock firmware. Well aparently I was wrong, sorry for spreading misinformation.

ntfs formatted western digital passport does work very well on the usb port though....strange that microsd doesn't

At the time of my initial test i was using paul's rom from modaco. There wasn't any mention of ntfs support in the notes. Eifher i missed the note or he corgot to include the change.
Fyi archos tabets support ntfs read.

From what I read the NTFS support was add in the v1.2 release of that PRIME custom ROM. Maybe you were using an earlier version. The last edit of that forum post was "6th May 2011 at 12:55 AM" which I assume was when the new PRIME ROM v1.2 version was released.

i didn't try th prime rom til yesterday.i was on modaco while doingthe exthd test.
did a noob thing hereand posted efore searching .someon else asked the question and said the stock tf bas ntfs support otb according to the manual. i havent pulled mine out yet to verify.

Bump, trying to figure out if prime 1.3 will support NTFS SDCARD.

I am running Stock TF101 with 3.1 Android and the dock supports NTFS USB Media and Sd-Card NTFS Media very well.
So NTFS with any media that connects to the dock works, at least all i could get hold of these included some USB-Sticks from 512 MB to 8 GB and USB 3.0 2.5" 1TB HDD. Also SD-Cards and my microSD in an SD Adapter works.
But here comes the strange part if i remove the microSD out of the Adapter and put it into the tablet it won't work. Yes the same card that worked 10 seconds before in the dock.

For anyone that finds this thread in the future: The MicroSD card is expected to be FAT formatted and therefore, will not automatically mount if it is NTFS. But, since NTFS is supported on the tablet, you can manually mount the MicroSD and it will work fine when formatted as NTFS. You'll need root and someway to run the below commands.
Mount:
Code:
mkdir /data/Removable/MicroSD
mount /dev/block/vold/179\:9 /data/Removable/MicroSD

rtadams89 said:
For anyone that finds this thread in the future: The MicroSD card is expected to be FAT formatted and therefore, will not automatically mount if it is NTFS. But, since NTFS is supported on the tablet, you can manually mount the MicroSD and it will work fine when formatted as NTFS. You'll need root and someway to run the below commands.
Mount:
Code:
mkdir /data/Removable/MicroSD
mount /dev/block/vold/179\:9 /data/Removable/MicroSD
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I've tried entering the script in Terminal Emulator, but get
"Usage: mount [-r] [-w].... etc.."
This means there's something wrong with the code?

Found this thread through google search. I have a 32gb patriot class 10 micro sd card - just formatted to ntfs and android 3.2 reads it natively. Not yet rooted either.

I too, am on a stock Android 3.2 with a NTFS formated 32 GB class 10 microSDHC. My Asus Transformer tablet works fine, and can read files off of the memory card. I haven't tried the dock's memory card reading slot, but I presume it'll just work the same.

hyperxi said:
I've tried entering the script in Terminal Emulator, but get
"Usage: mount [-r] [-w].... etc.."
This means there's something wrong with the code?
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You should be able to navigate into the actual directory:
/dev/block/vold/179 ...
If not, it might be elsewhere, slightly different location, like
/dev/block/vold/<another number?>
or
/dev/block/<another directory>/179
etc.
Once you find the actual flash directory it should be easy to mount to a known location. I am not rooted so I can not look on mine for differences.
What this implies... it might require a script or configuration to auto mount in any configuration. On LINUX this is handled a bunch of different ways depending on the kernel version, and likely similar on Android OS.
Good luck.

hoang51 said:
I too, am on a stock Android 3.2 with a NTFS formated 32 GB class 10 microSDHC. My Asus Transformer tablet works fine, and can read files off of the memory card. I haven't tried the dock's memory card reading slot, but I presume it'll just work the same.
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Confirmed! Same here I have 16GB ADATA class 10 microSDHC, NTFS formated. Works on my tablet not root just stock 3.2.

Circumventing the FAT32 4gb file limitation

I love everything about Android, other than the fact that I can't watch any of my blu ray rips because they are over 4gb. I can format my ext SD into NTFS or eXFat but then the transformer wont see the card when I put it in. Same goes with it recognizing my external hard drive.
I have tried formatting the drive into some Mac format because I read it was a work around, but it wasn't detected when formatted as a mac drive. Is there a trick that I don't know about?
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i have not tried, but you could possibly format the card in a linux file format (ext3, ext4, etc) and then use a windows app that will allow you to read the linux file format.
or just split your larger files.

xformulax said:
i have not tried, but you could possibly format the card in a linux file format (ext3, ext4, etc) and then use a windows app that will allow you to read the linux file format.
or just split your larger files.
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I am trying to get honeycomb to read and play the movies though. Not another comp running windows.
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i believe some of the kernels on the dev section supports ntfs if you want to go that route...
other than that, you'd have to wait for ASUS to implemente NTFS themselves (i believe they just got a license from a 3rd party co. to use their NTFS driver, for th purpose of implementing it into their android devices)
I don't need a signature.

seh6183 said:
I am trying to get honeycomb to read and play the movies though. Not another comp running windows.
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right, and honeycomb is *nix at its core and should be able to read and play the files on a linux formatted memory card... the challenge is getting windows to read that same card to load it, but that can be done with some opensource software.

xformulax said:
right, and honeycomb is *nix at its core and should be able to read and play the files on a linux formatted memory card... the challenge is getting windows to read that same card to load it, but that can be done with some opensource software.
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Ah I see! Can anyone comment on this that has tried it before I go through the agony and possible waste of time?
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Not much more to comment on, there are linux (ext3) filesystem drivers you can install on windows that should let you be able to load the SD card from within windows. As Android has *nix underneath it all, it should recognize the ext3 card no problem, and ext3 doesn't have the same 4GB limitation.

it does support ntfs for external hard drives.

seh6183 said:
I love everything about Android, other than the fact that I can't watch any of my blu ray rips because they are over 4gb. I can format my ext SD into NTFS or eXFat but then the transformer wont see the card when I put it in. Same goes with it recognizing my external hard drive.
I have tried formatting the drive into some Mac format because I read it was a work around, but it wasn't detected when formatted as a mac drive. Is there a trick that I don't know about?
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In another thread i heard NTFS works, but i personally couldnt get it to work with my MicroSD cards
you might want to check out this thread also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069360
My best guess is to root and install a kernel that supports NTFS
Or format to ext3 or ext4 and give that a try
I use this to access ext3 and ext 4 partitions on my Windows 7 machine
http://www.ext2fsd.com/
Works pretty well

i have a USB flash drive with NTFS. tried harry potter 720p mkv at 6.7GB and though it did see and load the file, it lagged to the point where it was unwatchable. This was on 3.01 and 3.1

I've played a 6 GB mkv off of my 320GB NTFS formatted hard drive, so shouldnt be an issue off of a card.
I'l try it later with one of my 8gb cards.

Anonnie said:
I've played a 6 GB mkv off of my 320GB NTFS formatted hard drive, so shouldnt be an issue off of a card.
I'l try it later with one of my 8gb cards.
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well NTFS support from a usb HDD is different from having NTFS support on the internal card reader... could also depend if NTFS is built into your kernel.

my TF works with a 8gb usb pendrive and my 750gb and 3tb external usb drive formated with windows 7 and plays dvd under 4gb
but did locked up when i opened a folder with a 9gb bluray file in it

Hmm I hope the file system for the TF isn't fat32, because like the previous poster said it would allow me to open my blu ray rips. Or would it? If the 6gb movie was located on another drive I don't see why it wouldn't play straight off the secondary drive.
I also can confirm that ntfs works just fine with external hard drives and usb thumb drives. Just not external SD cards.
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seh6183 said:
Hmm I hope the file system for the TF isn't fat32, because like the previous poster said it would allow me to open my blu ray rips. Or would it? If the 6gb movie was located on another drive I don't see why it wouldn't play straight off the secondary drive.
I also can confirm that ntfs works just fine with external hard drives and usb thumb drives. Just not external SD cards.
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the file system for the TF isn't fat32.... but it formats the uSD to fat32 for compatibility between the tablet and windows.
ntfs support for uSD and for external HDD are 2 different things.

NTFS and HFS+ filesystem support
I have recently tried this:
Paragon NTFS & HFS+
(can't post link as I am a noob :| so google it up or find it in the App Store)
It is free and it seems to work well with both Win (NTFS) and Mac (HFS+) disks. As far as I know it looks like an Android implementation of FUSE.

Large MicroSD troubles

I was previously using a UHC-1 speed 64GB MicroSD card in the MicroSD card slot on my TF101. This worked great in ASUS stock ICS, and also ASUS stock ICS w/ Guevor kernels. I decided to try out a few JB builds. So far, every JB build, and combination of kernels that I have tried does not allow me to read this card. I can read a smaller 4GB card just fine. Even if I put it in an adapter and stick it in the dock SD card slot, it still won't read. After verifying that I could still read it on my PC, I even reformatted the card as exFat from a PC, and that still yielded no success in reading it on the TF101.
To date, I've tried the official CM10 nightlies and EOS3 (with KAT 1.0.1 and Harmony JB kernel). None of these combinations, on any of the revisions (I tried back-dated versions also) seem to work with the card. It shows it present, but it can't mount it.
Anybody care to throw a stab at what may be going wrong?
I searched around a bit, and nobody has stated any such problems. (That or my google-fu is lacking)
I would hate to have to go back to ICS after going through all this trouble.
(Yes, I wiped, and wiped, and wiped, and wiped again. I even cleaned the entire user data section as well as everything else, I even reflashed things from scratch from the PC).
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ryocoon said:
I was previously using a UHC-1 speed 64GB MicroSD card in the MicroSD card slot on my TF101. This worked great in ASUS stock ICS, and also ASUS stock ICS w/ Guevor kernels. I decided to try out a few JB builds. So far, every JB build, and combination of kernels that I have tried does not allow me to read this card. I can read a smaller 4GB card just fine. Even if I put it in an adapter and stick it in the dock SD card slot, it still won't read. After verifying that I could still read it on my PC, I even reformatted the card as exFat from a PC, and that still yielded no success in reading it on the TF101.
To date, I've tried the official CM10 nightlies and EOS3 (with KAT 1.0.1 and Harmony JB kernel). None of these combinations, on any of the revisions (I tried back-dated versions also) seem to work with the card. It shows it present, but it can't mount it.
Anybody care to throw a stab at what may be going wrong?
I searched around a bit, and nobody has stated any such problems. (That or my google-fu is lacking)
I would hate to have to go back to ICS after going through all this trouble.
(Yes, I wiped, and wiped, and wiped, and wiped again. I even cleaned the entire user data section as well as everything else, I even reflashed things from scratch from the PC).
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I think it has to be fat32 formatted to be seen, at least in recovery. I believe the JB ROMs are currently unable to read NTFS, not sure about exFat.

sidneyk said:
I think it has to be fat32 formatted to be seen, at least in recovery. I believe the JB ROMs are currently unable to read NTFS, not sure about exFat.
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Yeah you're usually safe just sticking with FAT32.
But if you get too frustrated at that SD card, I'd be glad to take it off your hands for you, haha.

ryocoon said:
I was previously using a UHC-1 speed 64GB MicroSD card in the MicroSD card slot on my TF101. This worked great in ASUS stock ICS, and also ASUS stock ICS w/ Guevor kernels. I decided to try out a few JB builds. So far, every JB build, and combination of kernels that I have tried does not allow me to read this card. I can read a smaller 4GB card just fine. Even if I put it in an adapter and stick it in the dock SD card slot, it still won't read. After verifying that I could still read it on my PC, I even reformatted the card as exFat from a PC, and that still yielded no success in reading it on the TF101.
To date, I've tried the official CM10 nightlies and EOS3 (with KAT 1.0.1 and Harmony JB kernel). None of these combinations, on any of the revisions (I tried back-dated versions also) seem to work with the card. It shows it present, but it can't mount it.
Anybody care to throw a stab at what may be going wrong?
I searched around a bit, and nobody has stated any such problems. (That or my google-fu is lacking)
I would hate to have to go back to ICS after going through all this trouble.
(Yes, I wiped, and wiped, and wiped, and wiped again. I even cleaned the entire user data section as well as everything else, I even reflashed things from scratch from the PC).
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk 2
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Did you ever get a solution? I just got a 64gb UHS-1 card and am having all types of problems with accessing it. I am using KatKiss 4.3_029. I started getting no access to write access errors in TB, and copying files to it would just stop and say the disk might be full. I reformatted it exFAT using the SDFormatter tool on a PC, and wrote many fles to it on PC with no problems, but on ANdroid am seeing 0 byte files and all kinds of weirdness. I fixed permissions, I Edited the platform.xml file's WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE permission. Before doing the exFAT format, I had tried formatting in TWRP. None of these things fixed my problem. I even have the problems when installed in the dock in an SDCArd adapter.
Does anybody have any other ideas?

I formatted my 64GB card as vfat within Linux and I think I did it while it was in my card reader front panel. Now I have 63GB of storage that works in twrp and 4.4.2.
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bradysd4 said:
Did you ever get a solution? I just got a 64gb UHS-1 card and am having all types of problems with accessing it. I am using KatKiss 4.3_029. I started getting no access to write access errors in TB, and copying files to it would just stop and say the disk might be full. I reformatted it exFAT using the SDFormatter tool on a PC, and wrote many fles to it on PC with no problems, but on ANdroid am seeing 0 byte files and all kinds of weirdness. I fixed permissions, I Edited the platform.xml file's WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE permission. Before doing the exFAT format, I had tried formatting in TWRP. None of these things fixed my problem. I even have the problems when installed in the dock in an SDCArd adapter.
Does anybody have any other ideas?
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I eventually switched over to KatKiss on my TF101, but I also now use a TF701. exFAT, in general, does not work for auto-mount. Mostly due to licensing restrictions and stupidity like that for the core of the OS. You can format a 64GB card as FAT32, but you need a special tool to do it, as Windows won't let you format anything over 2GB as FAT32, and instead switches to vFAT/exFAT or NTFS, which are... less compatible and will not auto-mount. Now, I would have to go back and look at my TF101 device, but I lost the MicroSD from it (which was sad, as it had tons of pictures from a DSLR I took during a trip that not all had been cloud backed-up when I lost it). So more recent KatKiss kernels/ROMs may be able to auto-mount exFAT or vFAT along with older FAT32. NTFS will never auto-mount it seems (at least not as read/write), but can be mounted read/write if you have the right kernel or tool combination.
Also, I've never had the formatter in either CWM or TWRP work properly since the days of the OG Droid (Motorola Milestone A855).

ryocoon said:
I eventually switched over to KatKiss on my TF101, but I also now use a TF701. exFAT, in general, does not work for auto-mount. Mostly due to licensing restrictions and stupidity like that for the core of the OS. You can format a 64GB card as FAT32, but you need a special tool to do it, as Windows won't let you format anything over 2GB as FAT32, and instead switches to vFAT/exFAT or NTFS, which are... less compatible and will not auto-mount. Now, I would have to go back and look at my TF101 device, but I lost the MicroSD from it (which was sad, as it had tons of pictures from a DSLR I took during a trip that not all had been cloud backed-up when I lost it). So more recent KatKiss kernels/ROMs may be able to auto-mount exFAT or vFAT along with older FAT32. NTFS will never auto-mount it seems (at least not as read/write), but can be mounted read/write if you have the right kernel or tool combination.
Also, I've never had the formatter in either CWM or TWRP work properly since the days of the OG Droid (Motorola Milestone A855).
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OK, I reformatted to FAT32 last night using Easus disk partition software on Windows, re-copied a bunch of files to it, but haven't had a chance to test it yet. I couldn't get mini-tool partition software (which others had mentioned using) to work on Win8.1. If that doesn't fix it, I may try to get it replaced by mfg.
UPDATE: It seems like that (reformat with easus to FAT32) fixed it. No problems today. Yay! Back to 64gb MicroSD.

bradysd4 said:
OK, I reformatted to FAT32 last night using Easus disk partition software on Windows, re-copied a bunch of files to it, but haven't had a chance to test it yet. I couldn't get mini-tool partition software (which others had mentioned using) to work on Win8.1. If that doesn't fix it, I may try to get it replaced by mfg.
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I didn't use any partition manager software (if I was on linux, possibly, but I'm rockin' the Win 8.1 on my box at the moment, other systems in storage). I used a command line tool for formatting FAT32, it is GPL and such. Located at http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/fat32format.htm .
It seemed to work pretty well, but you have to decipher the command line options a bit.

USB-OTG - Cannot write to usb flash drive

Hi All
I have tried a USB Flash drive on my Moto G, and I am able to read all files fine on the device, however I can't write anything to the usb flash drive. I have rooted and tried Stickmount, but this isn't working still. Just wondering if anyone else here has any ideas or success? Thanks in advance!
-J
*Edit - It seems to be working now! See post 5. Very strange!

Others have the same problem, not me, I can write, read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2537439

Usb Stick has to be formated in FAT32 and not NTFS. This is maybe your problem.

Hi, thanks for the replies! I am formatted in fat32, and I'm using one of those small Meenova microSd card readers. Shaftenberg, what size if your microsd, and how is it formatted? I am using an 8gb one, but still have no luck.

OK this is weird...after fiddling around with it, I've managed to get it working! Basically I formatted the drive to exfat, tried it with stick mount, didn't work. I then killed all the stick mount processes, and manually deleted the 'usbStorage' directory. Reformatted the microSD to FAT32 on my computer, then I tried it again. Stickmount automatically mounted the microSD, and this time, I was able to write to it! Don't know why its decided to work, but very happy that it does. I tested copying files across, now downloading a linux torrent directly to it, and its working great.

Glad you got it working
I had a 4GB USB stick with fat32.

[Q] USB 3.0 OTG cable (WD 1TB)

Hi all, I wanna drop a query here.
Did any body tried to connect Western Digital Hard drive to Note Pro 12.2? I did everything, but really, I was disappointed because I wasn't able to connect it using OTG Cqble.

What format is it? I haven't been able to get ntfs to work yet, each of my drives show up as blank drives. I'm not about to change them to another format just for this tablet... migrating files off and then back on after formatting wouldn't be worth my time.
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mohamedalzaid said:
Hi all, I wanna drop a query here.
Did any body tried to connect Western Digital Hard drive to Note Pro 12.2? I did everything, but really, I was disappointed because I wasn't able to connect it using OTG Cqble.
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I was able to connect both an NTF and. EXFAT drive to my unrooted NotPro. Had to use special software of the ntf and then it was read only. With the exfat it is r/w and connects with native software.
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REHolt218 said:
I was able to connect both an NTF and. EXFAT drive to my unrooted NotPro. Had to use special software of the ntf and then it was read only. With the exfat it is r/w and connects with native software.
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You mean that if I will root my NotPro, then I will be able to connect my 1TB to it, and transfer files, or only reading?

mohamedalzaid said:
You mean that if I will root my NotPro, then I will be able to connect my 1TB to it, and transfer files, or only reading?
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If you are willing to root you can connect an NTFS drive and read or write to it. Not sure it matters what size
If you are not willing to root you can only read ntfs but can read/write an exfat drive. Mine is 1Tb. I believe exfat does have a size limit but not sure what it is.
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Ironically is not as clear cut as that. I'm rooted and had issues with NTFS. Not sure why, but my 64 gb usb flash drive formatted NTFS would not work, neither would a 1tb Western digital passport. I tried stickmount, paragon and usb otg helper. Eventually dumping all three apps and formatting the flash drive to exfat was the only solution that would work. I'm only monkeying around so I'm not about to try to backup the hard drive to another one just to reformat it to exfat. I guess I'll buy a hard drive someday for this tablet. .. I'm starting to think that exfat is the most reliable way to ensure compatibility.
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REHolt218 said:
If you are willing to root you can connect an NTFS drive and read or write to it. Not sure it matters what size
If you are not willing to root you can only read ntfs but can read/write an exfat drive. Mine is 1Tb. I believe exfat does have a size limit but not sure what it is.
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Well - yes and no.
I've just ordered this tablet and am very exited.
Regarding ntfs:
I tried this on my Note3. Yes i could read/write ntfs drives.
However I could only read 1 logical drive.
I had a 64 Gig stick partitioned in 2 logical ntfs drives. I could only access/detect one of them.
I read that this somehow relates to SE-linux in "enforcing" mode.
Couldn't figure out how to set to "permissive". A simple shell command didn't work. Yes I tried SU'ing the command as well.
Will try to find that post again.
If it is a se-linux related issue it stands to reason that it'll translate to Note Pro as well - doesn't it?
Regards
Elo