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i know the usb ports on the dock supprt ntfs read/write but has anyone tried ntfs formatted microsd? i wont be able to check mine til i get home. but i would't see why it can't. it would be nice to store an 8 GB video file on the sdcard. even if the tf wouldn't be able to play it
i'm pretty sue clockwork won't get along with ntfs though.
where did you hear the dock supported NTFS? to my understanding linux can't read that so nothing on the device should be able to support NTFS.
neok44 said:
where did you hear the dock supported NTFS? to my understanding linux can't read that so nothing on the device should be able to support NTFS.
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Actually linux reads (and write) NTFS quite fine.
For NTFS support linux uses NTFS-3g (free) or Tuxera (commercial). The questions is - did Asus add NTFS drivers? Some users of Transformer say it did and that it works.
Magnesus said:
Actually linux reads (and write) NTFS quite fine.
For NTFS support linux uses NTFS-3g (free) or Tuxera (commercial). The questions is - did Asus add NTFS drivers? Some users of Transformer say it did and that it works.
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interesting. I just figured that since all the android devices have never supported NTFS, at least the ones i've owned.
if i had a blank SD card i'd try it for you, but all mine have way to much data on it to try.
If at least the USB ports work thats nice cause i can then move my HD movies onto a 32GB flash drive. instead of trying to somehow get them under 4GB.
Honeycomb does not have native NTFS support built into the kernel but there is a custom ROM available that has this feature quoted "The Transformer's first custom kernel with CIFS/TUN/NTFS compiled in"
See: "[ROM] PRIME! v1.2 | Fast | Rooted | Deodexed" in the dev section of this forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052380
I have no idea if this would help with the NTFS microSD access you asked about.
I just formatted to NTFS on a class 10 wintec 16gb microsd. Doesn't work. I'm on stock honeycomb.
Back to fat32 i go!
3DSammy said:
Honeycomb does not have native NTFS support built into the kernel but there is a custom ROM available that has this feature quoted "The Transformer's first custom kernel with CIFS/TUN/NTFS compiled in"
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Maybe the people that reported NTFS working used this kernel. I didn't pay attention to what they were writing much because am not using NTFS. But I was almost sure they were talking about a Transformer with stock firmware. Well aparently I was wrong, sorry for spreading misinformation.
ntfs formatted western digital passport does work very well on the usb port though....strange that microsd doesn't
At the time of my initial test i was using paul's rom from modaco. There wasn't any mention of ntfs support in the notes. Eifher i missed the note or he corgot to include the change.
Fyi archos tabets support ntfs read.
From what I read the NTFS support was add in the v1.2 release of that PRIME custom ROM. Maybe you were using an earlier version. The last edit of that forum post was "6th May 2011 at 12:55 AM" which I assume was when the new PRIME ROM v1.2 version was released.
i didn't try th prime rom til yesterday.i was on modaco while doingthe exthd test.
did a noob thing hereand posted efore searching .someon else asked the question and said the stock tf bas ntfs support otb according to the manual. i havent pulled mine out yet to verify.
Bump, trying to figure out if prime 1.3 will support NTFS SDCARD.
I am running Stock TF101 with 3.1 Android and the dock supports NTFS USB Media and Sd-Card NTFS Media very well.
So NTFS with any media that connects to the dock works, at least all i could get hold of these included some USB-Sticks from 512 MB to 8 GB and USB 3.0 2.5" 1TB HDD. Also SD-Cards and my microSD in an SD Adapter works.
But here comes the strange part if i remove the microSD out of the Adapter and put it into the tablet it won't work. Yes the same card that worked 10 seconds before in the dock.
For anyone that finds this thread in the future: The MicroSD card is expected to be FAT formatted and therefore, will not automatically mount if it is NTFS. But, since NTFS is supported on the tablet, you can manually mount the MicroSD and it will work fine when formatted as NTFS. You'll need root and someway to run the below commands.
Mount:
Code:
mkdir /data/Removable/MicroSD
mount /dev/block/vold/179\:9 /data/Removable/MicroSD
rtadams89 said:
For anyone that finds this thread in the future: The MicroSD card is expected to be FAT formatted and therefore, will not automatically mount if it is NTFS. But, since NTFS is supported on the tablet, you can manually mount the MicroSD and it will work fine when formatted as NTFS. You'll need root and someway to run the below commands.
Mount:
Code:
mkdir /data/Removable/MicroSD
mount /dev/block/vold/179\:9 /data/Removable/MicroSD
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I've tried entering the script in Terminal Emulator, but get
"Usage: mount [-r] [-w].... etc.."
This means there's something wrong with the code?
Found this thread through google search. I have a 32gb patriot class 10 micro sd card - just formatted to ntfs and android 3.2 reads it natively. Not yet rooted either.
I too, am on a stock Android 3.2 with a NTFS formated 32 GB class 10 microSDHC. My Asus Transformer tablet works fine, and can read files off of the memory card. I haven't tried the dock's memory card reading slot, but I presume it'll just work the same.
hyperxi said:
I've tried entering the script in Terminal Emulator, but get
"Usage: mount [-r] [-w].... etc.."
This means there's something wrong with the code?
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You should be able to navigate into the actual directory:
/dev/block/vold/179 ...
If not, it might be elsewhere, slightly different location, like
/dev/block/vold/<another number?>
or
/dev/block/<another directory>/179
etc.
Once you find the actual flash directory it should be easy to mount to a known location. I am not rooted so I can not look on mine for differences.
What this implies... it might require a script or configuration to auto mount in any configuration. On LINUX this is handled a bunch of different ways depending on the kernel version, and likely similar on Android OS.
Good luck.
hoang51 said:
I too, am on a stock Android 3.2 with a NTFS formated 32 GB class 10 microSDHC. My Asus Transformer tablet works fine, and can read files off of the memory card. I haven't tried the dock's memory card reading slot, but I presume it'll just work the same.
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Confirmed! Same here I have 16GB ADATA class 10 microSDHC, NTFS formated. Works on my tablet not root just stock 3.2.
Is this possible? I have been reading forums and only catch things here and there
about it but nothing confirming it. I have rooted my xoom and installed the
1.4ghz OC kernel. I have the OTG cable and when I connect it to my xoom with
my hard drive I don't see anything happen. I would appreciate if someone could
confirm if this works or not and point me in the right direction as to how to set it
up.
Thanks in advance
i got my USB OTG usb stick working today, thx to @bigrushdog will try a 1tb hard disk toda.
meanwhile, read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1093720
it should help to clear things up, as you are not the only one with the problem!
I can`t mount NTFS on Tiamat 1.4.2
On 1.3.2 and 1.4.0 everything was ok
sjgosha said:
I can`t mount NTFS on Tiamat 1.4.2
On 1.3.2 and 1.4.0 everything was ok
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With this my 1.4.2 worked great with a Seagate 1TB external on a USB powered hub:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13337600&postcount=6
Hope the link helps ya out!
Thanks for the reply
OK i mount 1 TB NTFS Hard Drive but I can`t mount my 64 GB FlashDrive
the output of /dev/block is nothing
On tiamat 1.3.2 Everything was great
Anybody please check your NTFS flash drive
Btrgs
sjgosha said:
Thanks for the reply
OK i mount 1 TB NTFS Hard Drive but I can`t mount my 64 GB FlashDrive
the output of /dev/block is nothing
On tiamat 1.3.2 Everything was great
Anybody please check your NTFS flash drive
Btrgs
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Having exact same issue, can mount the powered drive via usb no problem, but usb sticks - no luck
im having no luck
tiamat 1.4.4
3.1
Running NTFS Mount, selecting sda1 to mount and it says:
Attempting to mount
Mount failed...
I am trying on a 2GB NTFS Formatted USB Stick.
I am only testing as I gave my 500gb NTFS External to a friend for the weekend and wasnt having any luck with that either although I havent tested it out with NTFS Mount.
Is there anything else I should be doing?
In 1.4.4. I was able to mount my 160gb NTFS drive, however it would NOT stay mounted...
I've switched back to 1.4.3. Testing now and it seems to be fine...
After 10 minutes it also unmounted itself...This is an older drive, not sure if its going bad, but it wasnt doing this before 1.4.4
Edit: if I unplug and remount it remounts fine...weird!
Edit2: USB Sticks and memory cards work just fine
Using the Motorola Camera Connection kit (their OTG cable):
No problem mounting a USB Stick at 16 GB formatted as FAT32 or EXT2
Recognizes the same stick and tried to mount if NTFS, but then "freaks" out (NTFS Mount can't actually mount it as NTFS, and File System gets confused) and is unable to read write.
Does not recognize either of my "self powered" USB external drives (1TB and 4TB) - no /dev/sda or /dev/sda1 appears in /dev/block unlike with the USB Stick.
This is with the Tiamat 3.1 and Kernel 1.4.4.
I heard 2TB harddrives work as well.
I don't have any proof though.
although USB is a preferred power method and a constant output of 5V (around about there)
Sometimes, the xoom is not powerful enough to power self powered hard drives, but if they come with a PSU then youll be fine.
As for Usb Sticks, thats beyond me however i think they may suffer from the same issue.
Remember, the Xoom is battery only and is not designed to be a USB power pocket unlike say, the transformer.
EwanG said:
Using the Motorola Camera Connection kit (their OTG cable):
No problem mounting a USB Stick at 16 GB formatted as FAT32 or EXT2
Recognizes the same stick and tried to mount if NTFS, but then "freaks" out (NTFS Mount can't actually mount it as NTFS, and File System gets confused) and is unable to read write.
Does not recognize either of my "self powered" USB external drives (1TB and 4TB) - no /dev/sda or /dev/sda1 appears in /dev/block unlike with the USB Stick.
This is with the Tiamat 3.1 and Kernel 1.4.4.
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I can verify that my self-powered ntfs 750GB HDD works fine on HC3.2 with the Tiamat Rom 2.0 Manta Ray, when I use the free USB Mass Storage Watcher OTG app. This app also works for my 16GB FAT32 thumb drive.
I love everything about Android, other than the fact that I can't watch any of my blu ray rips because they are over 4gb. I can format my ext SD into NTFS or eXFat but then the transformer wont see the card when I put it in. Same goes with it recognizing my external hard drive.
I have tried formatting the drive into some Mac format because I read it was a work around, but it wasn't detected when formatted as a mac drive. Is there a trick that I don't know about?
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i have not tried, but you could possibly format the card in a linux file format (ext3, ext4, etc) and then use a windows app that will allow you to read the linux file format.
or just split your larger files.
xformulax said:
i have not tried, but you could possibly format the card in a linux file format (ext3, ext4, etc) and then use a windows app that will allow you to read the linux file format.
or just split your larger files.
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I am trying to get honeycomb to read and play the movies though. Not another comp running windows.
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i believe some of the kernels on the dev section supports ntfs if you want to go that route...
other than that, you'd have to wait for ASUS to implemente NTFS themselves (i believe they just got a license from a 3rd party co. to use their NTFS driver, for th purpose of implementing it into their android devices)
I don't need a signature.
seh6183 said:
I am trying to get honeycomb to read and play the movies though. Not another comp running windows.
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right, and honeycomb is *nix at its core and should be able to read and play the files on a linux formatted memory card... the challenge is getting windows to read that same card to load it, but that can be done with some opensource software.
xformulax said:
right, and honeycomb is *nix at its core and should be able to read and play the files on a linux formatted memory card... the challenge is getting windows to read that same card to load it, but that can be done with some opensource software.
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Ah I see! Can anyone comment on this that has tried it before I go through the agony and possible waste of time?
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Not much more to comment on, there are linux (ext3) filesystem drivers you can install on windows that should let you be able to load the SD card from within windows. As Android has *nix underneath it all, it should recognize the ext3 card no problem, and ext3 doesn't have the same 4GB limitation.
it does support ntfs for external hard drives.
seh6183 said:
I love everything about Android, other than the fact that I can't watch any of my blu ray rips because they are over 4gb. I can format my ext SD into NTFS or eXFat but then the transformer wont see the card when I put it in. Same goes with it recognizing my external hard drive.
I have tried formatting the drive into some Mac format because I read it was a work around, but it wasn't detected when formatted as a mac drive. Is there a trick that I don't know about?
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In another thread i heard NTFS works, but i personally couldnt get it to work with my MicroSD cards
you might want to check out this thread also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069360
My best guess is to root and install a kernel that supports NTFS
Or format to ext3 or ext4 and give that a try
I use this to access ext3 and ext 4 partitions on my Windows 7 machine
http://www.ext2fsd.com/
Works pretty well
i have a USB flash drive with NTFS. tried harry potter 720p mkv at 6.7GB and though it did see and load the file, it lagged to the point where it was unwatchable. This was on 3.01 and 3.1
I've played a 6 GB mkv off of my 320GB NTFS formatted hard drive, so shouldnt be an issue off of a card.
I'l try it later with one of my 8gb cards.
Anonnie said:
I've played a 6 GB mkv off of my 320GB NTFS formatted hard drive, so shouldnt be an issue off of a card.
I'l try it later with one of my 8gb cards.
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well NTFS support from a usb HDD is different from having NTFS support on the internal card reader... could also depend if NTFS is built into your kernel.
my TF works with a 8gb usb pendrive and my 750gb and 3tb external usb drive formated with windows 7 and plays dvd under 4gb
but did locked up when i opened a folder with a 9gb bluray file in it
Hmm I hope the file system for the TF isn't fat32, because like the previous poster said it would allow me to open my blu ray rips. Or would it? If the 6gb movie was located on another drive I don't see why it wouldn't play straight off the secondary drive.
I also can confirm that ntfs works just fine with external hard drives and usb thumb drives. Just not external SD cards.
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seh6183 said:
Hmm I hope the file system for the TF isn't fat32, because like the previous poster said it would allow me to open my blu ray rips. Or would it? If the 6gb movie was located on another drive I don't see why it wouldn't play straight off the secondary drive.
I also can confirm that ntfs works just fine with external hard drives and usb thumb drives. Just not external SD cards.
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the file system for the TF isn't fat32.... but it formats the uSD to fat32 for compatibility between the tablet and windows.
ntfs support for uSD and for external HDD are 2 different things.
NTFS and HFS+ filesystem support
I have recently tried this:
Paragon NTFS & HFS+
(can't post link as I am a noob :| so google it up or find it in the App Store)
It is free and it seems to work well with both Win (NTFS) and Mac (HFS+) disks. As far as I know it looks like an Android implementation of FUSE.
What size ntfs do I need to format the hard drive in so the stock rom will read it? I'm using revolver so I don't know. Just confirmed 2 people not being able to read their hard drive because they're on stock. I'll have to reformat.
don't format as NTFS because Android won't read/write to it. Use vFAT/FAT32 - it may be worth giving ExFAT a go, but it probably won't work.
I have a 750 GB USB hard drive formatted as NTFS, and the TF can read and write
it with no problems when connected to a USB port on the keyboard dock or on the
tablet, using the Asus USB adapter.
I'm rooted, but using the stock ROMs on HC 3.2.1.
Works here, too - 500 GB Transcend External HDD formatted as NTFS.
Stock 3.2.1, no root.
davebugyi said:
Works here, too - 500 GB Transcend External HDD formatted as NTFS.
Stock 3.2.1, no root.
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You sure? NTFS what allocation size? I already got 2 people telling me the drive wouldn't work on their stock. When I plug it into mine, it works instantly.
Anyway, I'm formatting it in fat32 and sending it back to them.
Heck, I'll nvflash back to stock non-rooted to test these out myself.
goodintentions said:
You sure? NTFS what allocation size? I already got 2 people telling me the drive wouldn't work on their stock. When I plug it into mine, it works instantly.
Anyway, I'm formatting it in fat32 and sending it back to them.
Heck, I'll nvflash back to stock non-rooted to test these out myself.
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Of course I'm sure, I have 2 6GB files on them, which cannot be achieved in FAT32. Also the drive works on my friends Iconia A500. And the last time when I formatted a HDD into FAT32 was when I was using Windows ME
BTW, Allocation size 4096 Bytes.
I move my NTFS-formatted USB drive between my Windows XP PC and the Transformer (rooted/stock ROM/HC 3.2.1) all the time.
Need NTFS module
Hi
I have rooted TF(Revolver+Clemsyn). NTFS do work fine though I had to copy over NTFS.ko manually.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18023335#post18023335
Well. Colour me both surprised and impressed then!
I just got a confirmation from someone. His stock rom fully updated can only read fat32.
How come some of you with stock can read ntfs? I don't get it.
Latest 3.2.1 Stock WW - and it was never a problem. My External HDD is a one plug USB drive tho, so no need for extra power source. Looks like you're screwed
I downloaded an app called Drive Mount and that enabled NTFS for me, it might work natively now but I haven't uninstalled to find out so try that our - 'Drive Mount' on the Android market.
EDIT: I should specify that I can use both AC powered external hard drives and USB powered hard drives on my TF.
My new WD 1 TB cannot be mounted by my xoom. The file system is NTFS. Tried it powered by hub and powered by xoom. I get a error with Paragon NTFS and HFS+ " error code 1 fuse:mount failed: device or resource busy fuse mount error" how do I get around this?
finch12 said:
My new WD 1 TB cannot be mounted by my xoom. The file system is NTFS. Tried it powered by hub and powered by xoom. I get a error with Paragon NTFS and HFS+ " error code 1 fuse:mount failed: device or resource busy fuse mount error" how do I get around this?
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Are you running stock ROM? NTFS is a closed format so it might be troublesome to get working unless you have stock support for it.
However there are a few hacks you can make to enable ntfs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1020174
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1724078
Easiest though is to format the drive as ext3 or ext4 (my preference). That will make the drive not regognized by windows though :/
Edit - my bad, wrong thread.