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[Q] Is it worth it? & noob proof guide?

Is it really worth getting s-off and root on my Sensation?
What are the main advantages/disadvantages? & is there a simple way to go back to stock if my phone breaks and i need to send it to get fixed.
Also can someone link me to a noob proof guide to S-OFF and Root?
I've been looking through the development section, and there are to many guides to choose from.

Alpharev is working on a noob proof way to s-off the sensation. There is no eta for now. Should be released in a couple of weeks. You could wait for that.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App

DiZzle. said:
Alpharev is working on a noob proof way to s-off the sensation. There is no eta for now. Should be released in a couple of weeks. You could wait for that.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App
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By "noob proof" i mean the easiest way to do it all.
I've done things with like flashing software on psps,ipods, etc before.

HTC's official unlock process should be as easy as it gets, and due sometime this month unless it's slipped back.
The stock Sensation is a pretty solid phone though. So whether it's worth unlocking depends in part on whether you're happy with your experience using it, or are tempted by features offered by custom ROMs.
I unlocked mine as soon as I could. But then for me being able to tinker around with custom ROMs is part of the appeal of Android.

www.Revoluitionary.io
Follow the the instructions,its as easy as pie.Easier than CFW and Pandora battery on psp so you should be fine, Revolutionary is well easy just download for your OS fill in the boxes then run the .bat script and enter your beta key.Also choose the option to install recovery....Download the rom you want to try, flash through recovery and let it boot

bonesy said:
www.Revoluitionary.io
Follow the the instructions,its as easy as pie.Easier than CFW and Pandora battery on psp so you should be fine, Revolutionary is well easy just download for your OS fill in the boxes then run the .bat script and enter your beta key.Also choose the option to install recovery....Download the rom you want to try, flash through recovery and let it boot
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Thanks for the link
Tonight i'll have a look at some different roms, and tomorrow when i have the time i'll give it all a try.
Does it make any difference if i have a Sensation Z710a ?

As far as i know the given link will do both the Z710a and Z710e so all should be good, Are you a TMOUS User?

sromer said:
Is it really worth getting s-off and root on my Sensation?
What are the main advantages/disadvantages? & is there a simple way to go back to stock if my phone breaks and i need to send it to get fixed.
Also can someone link me to a noob proof guide to S-OFF and Root?
I've been looking through the development section, and there are to many guides to choose from.
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Hi,
This is as noob-proof as it gets:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300

bonesy said:
As far as i know the given link will do both the Z710a and Z710e so all should be good, Are you a TMOUS User?
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okay, and nope.
I have an unlocked Sensation on Virgin Mobile Australia
malybru said:
Hi,
This is as noob-proof as it gets:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
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Thanks

[Q]Simlock Desire S

Hi,
Is there a software way to desimlock the Desire S ?
I can ask the operator to do it but it would be simpler if I could do it myself.
Thanks in advance.

adridu59 said:
Hi,
Is there a software way to desimlock the Desire S ?
I can ask the operator to do it but it would be simpler if I could do it myself.
Thanks in advance.
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I would like to know this too please! Thank you!

So i join to question if I install custom rom will this remove simlock? Cheers
Sent from my HTC Desire S using Tapatalk

djkac said:
So i join to question if I install custom rom will this remove simlock? Cheers
Sent from my HTC Desire S using Tapatalk
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No SIMLOCK (or carrier lock as its often called) will not be removed by installing a Custom ROM, rooting or S-OFF'ing your device.
I believe that you either need to use what's called a Goldcard to achieve this or else pay your carrier to do it for you.

Also goldcard will also not work. You can pay your carrier or use a xtc clip. Best bet is an unlock code off eBay or another trusted site.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App

How they get this code s? And why we dont have this aswell? Hehe ok maybe somebody has good link to website where for sure they are not cheating people.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using Tapatalk

I know of software that unlocks the Desire for free, this has not been tested on the Desire S.
but if someone has the balls?

InfernalByte said:
I know of software that unlocks the Desire for free, this has not been tested on the Desire S.
but if someone has the balls?
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In which case either run it on your device and find out, or else write to the software original author and ask whether it is likely to work?

ben_pyett said:
In which case either run it on your device and find out, or else write to the software original author and ask whether it is likely to work?
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I have aksed an didn get an answer, and no I don't have the balls
My phone is unlocked anyway.

This soft can brick the phone?i tought is like key generator...
Sent from my HTC Desire S using Tapatalk

where is the simlock stored on DS? in the radio firmware/hboot or other place?
overwriting the radio or hboot with one from unlocked version wouldn't do the trick?

cozonac said:
where is the simlock stored on DS? in the radio firmware/hboot or other place?
overwriting the radio or hboot with one from unlocked version wouldn't do the trick?
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I'm afraid that I don't know the answer to where SIMLOCK is actually stored.
I would guess that its not stored in RADIO or HBOOT as we all flash the same versions of both of these whether we're locked or unlocked and our lock status is never changed.
But, I'd say that the cost of paying for the service online $10-$20, is minimal compared to the damage that you could do to the device with unknown flashing from one handset to another.

i guess the risk can be compared to that of unlocking hboot or using custom firmware. for some people that's ok...
almost every piece of software on this forum can brick your device
for example i found a program on this forum, gfree, that writes directly to mtd partitions.
other examples include kernels modified by "developers" asking for donations to take programming classes. if it's not risky using a kernel with filesystem code modified by them i don't know what is
so, sure, if you just want it unlocked and don't care about custom firmwares and such, 10-20$ is a great deal.
anyway, i was just asking in theory, where is the simlock stored on Desire S?

cozonac said:
i guess the risk can be compared to that of unlocking hboot or using custom firmware. for some people that's ok...
almost every piece of software on this forum can brick your device
for example i found a program on this forum, gfree, that writes directly to mtd partitions.
other examples include kernels modified by "developers" asking for donations to take programming classes. if it's not risky using a kernel with filesystem code modified by them i don't know what is
so, sure, if you just want it unlocked and don't care about custom firmwares and such, 10-20$ is a great deal.
anyway, i was just asking in theory, where is the simlock stored on Desire S?
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LOL, I agree, we risk all with every flash.......... I'm afraid that I don't know, Anyone??????

Thanks guys. Can someone provide a safe website to get an unlock code ?

[Q] Rooting Your Sensation?

Hey guy I've rooted my tmo usa sensation using the revolutionary technique but now on htc's developer's web site I can get the tools to root it also. So I want to know is htc's way is better.
P.S. The sensation is my first android phone, so forgive me because I use to have a iphone... so im kinda a noob here...

darryll4sh0 said:
Hey guy I've rooted my tmo usa sensation using the revolutionary technique but now on htc's developer's web site I can get the tools to root it also. So I want to know is htc's way is better.
P.S. The sensation is my first android phone, so forgive me because I use to have a iphone... so im kinda a noob here...
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U good as is

darryll4sh0 said:
Hey guy I've rooted my tmo usa sensation using the revolutionary technique but now on htc's developer's web site I can get the tools to root it also. So I want to know is htc's way is better.
P.S. The sensation is my first android phone, so forgive me because I use to have a iphone... so im kinda a noob here...
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^^^^ Agree ^^^^ If you are already S-OFF'd and rooted with Revolutionary, don't miss with the HTC version because it doesn't buy you anything and would actually take away some functionality you already have.

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tpbklake said:
^^^^ Agree ^^^^ If you are already S-OFF'd and rooted with Revolutionary, don't miss with the HTC version because it doesn't buy you anything and would actually take away some functionality you already have.
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Thanks, for telling me that.... i don't want to lose any function!

Dont worry man, Im a bit of a noob myself but were glad to have you over on the android side of things I have read that the revolutionary way gives you more read/write access and the official HTC unlock doesnt give you full access to the bootloader, nor does the official HTC unlock automatically install clockwork mod. If I were you I would definitely go the revolutionary method, but chances are the HTC method is slightly more stable.

I used the revolutionary method to root and now im trying roms/themes .... any suggestions

[Q] Official Android 4 installed (how do i root now?)

I installed the official ICS from HTC's website. its like a RUU or something. I'm real real noob and i kinda want to root now. Is it too late? or do i have to wait? O and further information I don't know what radios, roms, flashing... etc means. so ya!.. im a real noob sry guys.

Based on your description to yourself, as you real real real noob and does not know the meaning of the technical words and things done to your phone. I would strongly suggest to keep out of rooting. You might kill your phone.
Rooting is not for yourself, and for noobs, again based from on you self description.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda app-developers app

APPLEMYASS said:
I installed the official ICS from HTC's website. its like a RUU or something. I'm real real noob and i kinda want to root now. Is it too late? or do i have to wait? O and further information I don't know what radios, roms, flashing... etc means. so ya!.. im a real noob sry guys.
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OP, i would suggest that u take time to read the stickies. There are full of information inside in detail. And if u still need further detail then google is your friend.
The search button would do you a great help, no point posting the same question and waiting it to be answered as most question concerning rooting has been answered before, many times. As rooting is not something newly discovered for to this phone.
If you do not take the time to read then u will bump into many issue, that would of course not cost anyone in this forum any harm, but cost your phone to possibly brick.
Read the guides, read the pros and cons, and read the comments(don't be fooled by the number of complains, most of them have solutions and the methods are proven to work).
If you have doubt, search 1st, search 2nd, search google, try different words and finally only then post a question.

rain987 said:
OP, i would suggest that u take time to read the stickies. There are full of information inside in detail. And if u still need further detail then google is your friend.
The search button would do you a great help, no point posting the same question and waiting it to be answered as most question concerning rooting has been answered before, many times. As rooting is not something newly discovered for to this phone.
If you do not take the time to read then u will bump into many issue, that would of course not cost anyone in this forum any harm, but cost your phone to possibly brick.
Read the guides, read the pros and cons, and read the comments(don't be fooled by the number of complains, most of them have solutions and the methods are proven to work).
If you have doubt, search 1st, search 2nd, search google, try different words and finally only then post a question.
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kk ty for the reply but wat i rlly meant is that i can't really find any articles about how to root a htc desire s with android 4 installed. I read alot of posts and i tried the power with colume down button to check my hboot version but it just flashes a white frame and then turns black. Of course i would be glad if you could tell me a post that explains how to root a desire s with ics installed

Skanob said:
Based on your description to yourself, as you real real real noob and does not know the meaning of the technical words and things done to your phone. I would strongly suggest to keep out of rooting. You might kill your phone.
Rooting is not for yourself, and for noobs, again based from on you self description.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda app-developers app
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ty for emphasizing on my noob"ness" and i had started to read alot of posts and you know im starting to get the stuff. But can you help me on my question?? do you know how to s-off the desire s with ics installed or where i could get more information on this? thx for replying tho!!

The information is all over the forum. At least one of the guides that is good for Gingerbread, is good for ICS too. Until you have enough knowledge to figure this stuff out yourself, I'd suggest, as others, to stay away from rooting. I don't want to answer another barrage of questions "this doesn't work and that doesn't work, I'm stuck with a non-working phone, what do I do now", and in fact I won't answer. If enough of those few that can answer will be annoyed to the point where they won't bother answering - you'll be left with a non-working phone and no help.

You have two options, and both are well documented in these forums.
1. (recommended): downgrade your hboot (and with it the system software, but afterwards you can install what you want) and then get s-off
2. : unlock your phone on the htc-dev website, lose any warranty, always need to flash boot.img by fastboot from pc etc.
Guides for both these options should be quickly found on these forums through searching.
You have hboot 2.xx.xxxx. that's why you can't get s-off without downgrading.

teadrinker said:
1. (recommended): downgrade your hboot (and with it the system software, but afterwards you can install what you want) and then get s-off
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AFAIK it is not possible to downgrade hboot on ICS RUU without root. And you can't get root without unlock via htc-dev.
So you need to unlock via htc-dev!
Correct me if I'm wrong and please share a link.
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APPLEMYASS said:
I installed the official ICS from HTC's website. its like a RUU or something. I'm real real noob and i kinda want to root now. Is it too late? or do i have to wait? O and further information I don't know what radios, roms, flashing... etc means. so ya!.. im a real noob sry guys.
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May I ask how the official release is working? Did it slow down your phone?
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colarus said:
AFAIK it is not possible to downgrade hboot on ICS RUU without root. And you can't get root without unlock via htc-dev.
So you need to unlock via htc-dev!
Correct me if I'm wrong and please share a link.
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Indeed, AFAIK you can't get root in ICS without HTCDev unlock.
So you can either HTCDev unlock and root, or you can HTCDev unlock, root, relock, downgrade, S-OFF, upgrade bootloader, and then do whatever you want.
Guides for both of those methods exist.

Jack_R1 said:
Indeed, AFAIK you can't get root in ICS without HTCDev unlock.
So you can either HTCDev unlock and root, or you can HTCDev unlock, root, relock, downgrade, S-OFF, upgrade bootloader, and then do whatever you want.
Guides for both of those methods exist.
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Is temp root by superoneclick, zergrush... not possible on ICS? It worked on GB with hboot 2.
Sent from my Desire S using xda app-developers app

teadrinker said:
Is temp root by superoneclick, zergrush... not possible on ICS? It worked on GB with hboot 2.
Sent from my Desire S using xda app-developers app
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than what to do

teadrinker said:
Is temp root by superoneclick, zergrush... not possible on ICS? It worked on GB with hboot 2.
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arjun1459 said:
than what to do
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This is why people start getting annoyed with the 'noobs' on the forums. You ask questions, get them answered by guys like Jack_R1 who know what they are talking about and then just ignore them, or ask the same damn question again.

APPLEMYASS said:
I installed the official ICS from HTC's website. its like a RUU or something. I'm real real noob and i kinda want to root now. Is it too late? or do i have to wait? O and further information I don't know what radios, roms, flashing... etc means. so ya!.. im a real noob sry guys.
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Well for any noob the internet is a great place to start especially XDA
As people have instructed already these forums are full of wisdom, and Im sure the answer is in one of the many threads.
But at a high level this is what I did:
1.Installed the official ICS update from HTC using the RUU.
2.Unlocked the phone via HTC dev website instructions.
3.Rooted the phone using SuperOneClick(Flashed it via recovery)
But I really dont understand why you would want to root the stock rom as it does not even support overclocking, I mean the kernel.
Im using Fallout V5.0 and I assure you thats its way better than stock
Note: If all this seems like greek and latin to you, please refrain from rooting your device and hence avoid any possible damage to your phone.

[Q] S-Off --- Root and Recovery

Hi there!
I have a HTC Wildfire S with S-Off and it is very easy to root it and install custom recovery.
I also have a HTC Desire S with S-Off but with HBOOT 2.02.002. there is any methods to root it and install custom recovery?
P.S. Both phones are xtc-clip s-off.
Thanks a lot!

helbet said:
Hi there!
I also have a HTC Desire S with S-Off but with HBOOT 2.02.002. there is any methods to root it and install custom recovery?
Thanks a lot!
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Yes :good:

Ok, could you share your method? For Wildfire S I used files like pg76img.zip.. This is also working on Desire S?
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda app-developers app

helbet said:
Ok, could you share your method? For Wildfire S I used files like pg76img.zip.. This is also working on Desire S?
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The method has been shared and posted so many times that I would suggest you simply read the stickies and the indexes and use the search function as well.

Maybe I am ignorant...but I couldn't find a method to root my phone.. could be the hboot 2.02.002 the cause?
And anyway.. I belive that this is a helping forum.. or not?
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda app-developers app

helbet said:
Maybe I am ignorant...but I couldn't find a method to root my phone.. could be the hboot 2.02.002 the cause?
And anyway.. I belive that this is a helping forum.. or not?
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Actually XDA is a Developers forum - that was the key purpose for its creation. Yes, you can come here and ask for help; but I am suggesting that you read the information that is freely available so that you understand what you are doing and why - and how to get out of any problems you might encounter.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1859145

SimonTS said:
Actually XDA is a Developers forum - that was the key purpose for its creation. Yes, you can come here and ask for help; but I am suggesting that you read the information that is freely available so that you understand what you are doing and why - and how to get out of any problems you might encounter.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1859145
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Thanks! I finaly did it.. the key was to change my 2.02.0002 HBOOT with another one.. If anyone need details please ask!

helbet said:
Hi there!
I have a HTC Wildfire S with S-Off and it is very easy to root it and install custom recovery.
I also have a HTC Desire S with S-Off but with HBOOT 2.02.002. there is any methods to root it and install custom recovery?
P.S. Both phones are xtc-clip s-off.
Thanks a lot!
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For the Desire S you can go the link below for instructions on rooting and recovery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525100

Root not working
Hello, I've updated my Desire S (S-OFF) with PG88IMG, asi it was recommended, but after updating, when I choose to reboot, just white screen with HTC logo shows, then display turns black and thats all, phone won't boot. I hope somebody will help me.

agrobrat said:
Hello, I've updated my Desire S (S-OFF) with PG88IMG, asi it was recommended, but after updating, when I choose to reboot, just white screen with HTC logo shows, then display turns black and thats all, phone won't boot. I hope somebody will help me.
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you need to explain exactly what you've done, and what versions your own.
Sywepd form my DsereiS