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Hi there everybody,
I'm probably in the wrong section of the forum, and my questions are nubby I know, but I get confused.
My Desire S is S-ON, and I would like to get is S-OFF. Is this possible, because it is needed to be able to root the phone right?
And an offtopic question, what is a flash-able app, and what is the difference with a normal custom .apk which can be installed from the sd card.
Thanks in advance
eurynox said:
Hi there everybody,
I'm probably in the wrong section of the forum, and my questions are nubby I know, but I get confused.
My Desire S is S-ON, and I would like to get is S-OFF. Is this possible, because it is needed to be able to root the phone right?
And an offtopic question, what is a flash-able app, and what is the difference with a normal custom .apk which can be installed from the sd card.
Thanks in advance
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Software S-OFF is not possible yet (Only Hardware - XTC Clip)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1012045
So its not possible to root yet?
Is there work in progress?
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA App
eurynox said:
So its not possible to root yet?
Is there work in progress?
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA App
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so far, no one ever mention about developing one. so, you might need to wait. if you can't wait, just get someone with XTC clip to do it for ya...
Can anyone tell me what S-OFF means? Thank you!
Bogdanbd said:
Can anyone tell me what S-OFF means? Thank you!
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Yet another lazy boy...
http://tinyurl.com/4xhq2u7
It seems that HTC reverse its decision to block everything on the latest versions, after the petition that circulated on the net, requesting the release.
See article below:
htc-reviewing-its-bootloader-policy-well-believe-it-when-we-see-it/
and the other:
confirmed-evo-3ds-bootloader-recovery-and-kernel-images-all-locked-down/
philos64 said:
It seems that HTC reverse its decision to block everything on the latest versions, after the petition that circulated on the net, requesting the release.
See article below:
htc-reviewing-its-bootloader-policy-well-believe-it-when-we-see-it/
and the other:
confirmed-evo-3ds-bootloader-recovery-and-kernel-images-all-locked-down/
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Actually, no.
From the same article:
"In short: custom ROMs, kernels, and recoveries (like ClockworkMod) may never come to the EVO 3D, barring some kind of epic HTC screw-up."
Is it really worth getting s-off and root on my Sensation?
What are the main advantages/disadvantages? & is there a simple way to go back to stock if my phone breaks and i need to send it to get fixed.
Also can someone link me to a noob proof guide to S-OFF and Root?
I've been looking through the development section, and there are to many guides to choose from.
Alpharev is working on a noob proof way to s-off the sensation. There is no eta for now. Should be released in a couple of weeks. You could wait for that.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App
DiZzle. said:
Alpharev is working on a noob proof way to s-off the sensation. There is no eta for now. Should be released in a couple of weeks. You could wait for that.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App
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By "noob proof" i mean the easiest way to do it all.
I've done things with like flashing software on psps,ipods, etc before.
HTC's official unlock process should be as easy as it gets, and due sometime this month unless it's slipped back.
The stock Sensation is a pretty solid phone though. So whether it's worth unlocking depends in part on whether you're happy with your experience using it, or are tempted by features offered by custom ROMs.
I unlocked mine as soon as I could. But then for me being able to tinker around with custom ROMs is part of the appeal of Android.
www.Revoluitionary.io
Follow the the instructions,its as easy as pie.Easier than CFW and Pandora battery on psp so you should be fine, Revolutionary is well easy just download for your OS fill in the boxes then run the .bat script and enter your beta key.Also choose the option to install recovery....Download the rom you want to try, flash through recovery and let it boot
bonesy said:
www.Revoluitionary.io
Follow the the instructions,its as easy as pie.Easier than CFW and Pandora battery on psp so you should be fine, Revolutionary is well easy just download for your OS fill in the boxes then run the .bat script and enter your beta key.Also choose the option to install recovery....Download the rom you want to try, flash through recovery and let it boot
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Thanks for the link
Tonight i'll have a look at some different roms, and tomorrow when i have the time i'll give it all a try.
Does it make any difference if i have a Sensation Z710a ?
As far as i know the given link will do both the Z710a and Z710e so all should be good, Are you a TMOUS User?
sromer said:
Is it really worth getting s-off and root on my Sensation?
What are the main advantages/disadvantages? & is there a simple way to go back to stock if my phone breaks and i need to send it to get fixed.
Also can someone link me to a noob proof guide to S-OFF and Root?
I've been looking through the development section, and there are to many guides to choose from.
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Hi,
This is as noob-proof as it gets:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
bonesy said:
As far as i know the given link will do both the Z710a and Z710e so all should be good, Are you a TMOUS User?
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okay, and nope.
I have an unlocked Sensation on Virgin Mobile Australia
malybru said:
Hi,
This is as noob-proof as it gets:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
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Thanks
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/08/htc-...htcdev-page-unlocked-bootloader-update-ready/
http://www.htcdev.com
It is now done, HTC did what they said and before September. Now the real questions is, who will use this?
People who aren't on XDA.
aNYthing24 said:
People who aren't on XDA.
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Isn't that the truth!
Why would anyone who does not know about xda, or was never here before want to unlock his bootloader?
Glotzeulor said:
Why would anyone who does not know about xda, or was never here before want to unlock his bootloader?
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A bunch of people on Facebook (who probably never heard of XDA) started complaining about it too. You know how angry mobs get.
Glotzeulor said:
Why would anyone who does not know about xda, or was never here before want to unlock his bootloader?
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If you don't care about warranties or are just lazy, then those are the people who will use this method.
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Why would anyone who does not know about xda, or was never here before want to unlock his bootloader?
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Because they bought their phones in a foreign country during vacations, and HTC doesn't offers a good suport in theirs home country. So it is desirable get S-OFF from HTC even if it means lose warranty.
easy and strait forward root?
would this be an alternative to xda tutorials to achieve root on my sensation? im very new to android, about 3 weeks now, and i'd like to root my phone but from perm temp roots and terminology that i dont understand it made xda tutorials rather difficult. the only downside to htcdev is it could possibly jeopardize your warranty.
who cares XDA been added Tmobile lol.............
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A bunch of people on Facebook (who probably never heard of XDA) started complaining about it too. You know how angry mobs get.
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what about the flash mobs?
htcdev voids the warranty? mmmh no thanks then! (I still have to receive my sensation yet... I was spoiled by the nexus one)
kpholmes said:
would this be an alternative to xda tutorials to achieve root on my sensation? im very new to android, about 3 weeks now, and i'd like to root my phone but from perm temp roots and terminology that i dont understand it made xda tutorials rather difficult. the only downside to htcdev is it could possibly jeopardize your warranty.
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It's very easy to get S-OFF and root through Revolutionary. This method isn't good if you want to retain your full warranty. Just follow this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1232107
Had S-OFF, Recovery and Root via Revolutionary for a month now...
kpholmes said:
would this be an alternative to xda tutorials to achieve root on my sensation? im very new to android, about 3 weeks now, and i'd like to root my phone but from perm temp roots and terminology that i dont understand it made xda tutorials rather difficult. the only downside to htcdev is it could possibly jeopardize your warranty.
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HTCDev site does NOT root your phone, it unlocks the BOOTLOADER only, which is the first step to permanently root your phone.
Has a new root come out for the latest update?? W/o flashing a Rom?
knuhkles said:
Has a new root come out for the latest update?? W/o flashing a Rom?
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You don't need to flash a ROM to root.
You flash Clockwork Recovery Image on it, then you flash the root zip file to perm root.
nxt said:
You don't need to flash a ROM to root.
You flash Clockwork Recovery Image on it, then you flash the root zip file to perm root.
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Im a noob... Is there a step by step tutorial from the new update?.. I s-offd with revolutionary before the new update but the root doesn't work now
Sorry but the steps to rooting the phone is confusing for me, if I unlock the bootloader through hTC, what steps do I take to rooting my phone?
Mikeglongo said:
Sorry but the steps to rooting the phone is confusing for me, if I unlock the bootloader through hTC, what steps do I take to rooting my phone?
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I'm in the same problem. sorry for the basic English
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
Ok So back in the day I used the ace hack kit so I was happily on froyo me specs are:
Android Version 2.2.1
Kernel Version 2.6.32.21-g3c08447
Software Number Inspired DHD AFR003
so now as I remember I did the s-off rooted and unlocked but need to go back to stock firmware (IDK just want it) so att made the update to gingerbread so my question is:
If I update like the way the htc page tells me to will it brick my phone ?
and if not what do I have to do?
ive just been out of it and im a little back behind but I find posts with other things than this thanks in advance guys!
Check out this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1208507
It has all the instructions and tools you need to return to stock.
but I cant just execute the htc update and what would happen my main concern is messing up my phone by just updating to the official Gingerbread I am on still on the same specs
Yes you can just flash the gingerbread ruu. You will be stock but still have soff which is fine unless you were going to do some kind of warranty claim then I would suggest gong son aswell
0riginal.mv said:
but I cant just execute the htc update and what would happen my main concern is messing up my phone by just updating to the official Gingerbread I am on still on the same specs
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Do you mean the OTA update, or the RUU from HTC's website? If the former, then no, you can't unless you are running a rock-stock froyo ROM (it will abort before doing anything). If the latter, then yes, you can run it, but it will wipe everything.
RUU_Ace_Gingerbread_S_Cingular_US_2.47.502.7_Radio_12.56.60.25_26.10.04.03_M_release_200368_signed.exe
thats the file I really dont care of the features I use im just wondering if i'll mess up my phone plus I just want to know what ill keep and what ill lose in terms of the s-off and I know ill lose the unlock
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RUU_Ace_Gingerbread_S_Cingular_US_2.47.502.7_Radio_12.56.60.25_26.10.04.03_M_release_200368_signed.exe
thats the file I really dont care of the features I use im just wondering if i'll mess up my phone plus I just want to know what ill keep and what ill lose in terms of the s-off and I know ill lose the unlock
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Flashing ghe htc OTA update while you are S-Off will not work. Found this out the hard way back when I first started messing with phones
You can un root your phone and put S-On and update it to gingerbread but I don't think you'll be able to root it as I believe the hack kit requires you to downgrade firmware anyway.
Best bet is to just flash a gingerbread rom. If your trying to keep sense I would suggest the rom virtuous unity.
Has sense 3.0 with a load of new features and is gingerbread I believe.
Either way, best of luck. Hope this helps
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda premium
Thanks Solved My Answer Now To Move On To Virtuous Unity
0riginal.mv said:
Thanks Solved My Answer Now To Move On To Virtuous Unity
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No problem, and you won't regret it I promise!
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda premium
Hi all,
I am new to android and just* want to root my phone as many apps demand your phone to be rooted such as full backup apps, firewall apps and other similar apps.
I am still on HTC's stock 2.3.3 with HTC sense v.2.1 (though i have downloaded the OTA update for 2.3.5 but kinda confused over negative reviews of 2.3.5 update..so I am holding it here right now)
But when I saw a guide here though quite helpful but I was a bit confused as what I read on other articles on XDA + on other blogs that a thing called HBOOT is a bit tricky to tackle while following a particular rooting method; as there are many ways to root like using revolutionary..installing custom bootloaders etc (is it really neccessary? I just want to root my phone and don't plan to install any custom ROMs in near future.)
I am confused
- as to should I really let my warranty go off the table as its just a month old phone sacrificing it for just a few apps I want to use.
- Please tell me that, will I be able to search for and install the officially released OTA updates such as the 2.3.5 / ICS after I have done S-OFF + Rooted my phone??
If answer to both of the questions above is a "YES"
then plz tell me step by step of how to S-OFF and ROOT my phone (I found multiple ways to Root the phone and now I am confused and not really confident on which way/approach to follow)
Any advice would be appreciated.
Regards,
Sky770
If you want to root, do not download the OTA and install!!
You are in a great position, and you can easily root your hboot with the alpharevx.
Do it, you won't regret it.
Also, we can't give you step by step guides... Follow the index links.
Also, you can't install updates after rooted. But you won't need to. We will have the official ICS prerooted before.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
Revolutionary now, not AlphaRevX
Sent from my HTC Desire S using Tapatalk 2
olyloh6696 said:
If you want to root, do not download the OTA and install!!
You are in a great position, and you can easily root your hboot with the alpharevx.
Do it, you won't regret it.
Also, we can't give you step by step guides... Follow the index links.
Also, you can't install updates after rooted. But you won't need to. We will have the official ICS prerooted before.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
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well..
dan-fish said:
Revolutionary now, not AlphaRevX
Sent from my HTC Desire S using Tapatalk 2
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Thx for both of you replying here..
LOL accidentally pressed "thanks" for dan-fish so had to do the same for olyloh6696 (I mean should express gratitude towards both of you..but its actually better if I had done it at the end/mark the thread as "solved" )
Looks like we have a standoff here.. which one guys? the alpharevX or the revolutionary?
sky770 said:
well..
Thx for both of you replying here..
LOL accidentally pressed "thanks" for dan-fish so had to do the same for olyloh6696 (I mean should express gratitude towards both of you..but its actually better if I had done it at the end/mark the thread as "solved" )
Looks like we have a standoff here.. which one guys? the alpharevX or the revolutionary?
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Both are the same alpharevX is the old name for revolutionary
Tapatalked from a Desire S waiting for Kernel 3 sources. WAKE UP HTC!!!!!!
Revolutionary, alpharevx was before
Yeah oops my bad! Shows how far behind I am with the rooting buisness! I can't even remember how I rooted mine exactly now!
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
suku_patel_22 said:
Both are the same alpharevX is the old name for revolutionary
Tapatalked from a Desire S waiting for Kernel 3 sources. WAKE UP HTC!!!!!!
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I was wishing for you only to land here..voila
eyahl said:
Revolutionary, alpharevx was before
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Thx for the update.. yep just read it on revolutionary.io's home page
olyloh6696 said:
Yeah oops my bad! Shows how far behind I am with the rooting buisness! I can't even remember how I rooted mine exactly now!
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
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:| looks like am here for that now
ok guys here is my HBOOT info:
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saga pvt ship s-on RL
hboot-0.98.0002
radio-3805.06.02.03_M
eMMC-boot
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So, should I be worried about the HBOOT ver. number? the 0.98 ? :|
You should be less worried that the hboot is 0.98....
No need of downgrading,
It's simple, just do revolutionary....
And you will have S-off
And yes, don't download the OTA
Tapatalked from a Desire S waiting for Kernel 3 sources. WAKE UP HTC!!!!!!
There's a video in the index thread on How to root and S Off the HTC desire S ... Follow the instructions & u r good to go!!!
suku_patel_22 said:
You should be less worried that the hboot is 0.98....
No need of downgrading,
It's simple, just do revolutionary....
And you will have S-off
And yes, don't download the OTA
Tapatalked from a Desire S waiting for Kernel 3 sources. WAKE UP HTC!!!!!!
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ok.. I really have no idea about what happens and what not happens if i do downgrade my HBOOT but I see many people here on XDA done that (downgraded their HBOOT) Can you shed some light on this topic?
Also, I would definitely want to try official 2.3.5 and/or the official ICS release (whenever they release one; around Q3/Q4 2012? ) so is there any* way to install these if I do revolutionary? I would def. like to find these updates via OTA (will my phone detect these from official HTC servers?)
PS: I am trying to stay as long as with official ROM as of now :| so no near future plans to flash my baby with a custom one
Just need the root
just a few more noob questions to follow
Thanks for reading and replying
You will not thank me for this, but for your sake I suggest reading instead of writing. All of the info you're asking for is written in the guides, and people that write the guides don't have enough patience to answer those that don't bother reading and ask the same questions over and over. Writing questions instead of reading FAQs and guides leaves you with less probability of having a good answer or having an answer at all, and clutters the already cluttered forum.
sky770 said:
ok.. I really have no idea about what happens and what not happens if i do downgrade my HBOOT but I see many people here on XDA done that (downgraded their HBOOT) Can you shed some light on this topic?
Also, I would definIitely want to try official 2.3.5 and/or the official ICS release (whenever they release one; around Q3/Q4 2012? ) so is there any* way to install these if I do revolutionary? I would def. like to find these updates via OTA (will my phone detect these from official HTC servers?)
PS: I am trying to stay as long as with official ROM as of now :| so no near future plans to flash my baby with a custom one
Just need the root
just a few more noob questions to follow
Thanks for reading and replying
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As you are on the old hboot, there is no need of downgrading, that's why I said, do not install the upgrade.
We have a ROM, by Proxuser, which is the rooted version of the OTA with no modifications and will work out pretty well.
Once rooted you will not be able to receive any OTA upgraded, but IMHO, hardly matters, you will get the same and better versions out here.
We already have the leak of ICS build for desire S, and it's pretty fast, forget q3
Also we have very functional sense 4 lite, which is faster than sense 3.6
So again, do the revolutionary, it's quite simple actually for you, and flash the saga 3D,, for a stock experience
Tapatalked from a Desire S waiting for Kernel 3 sources. WAKE UP HTC!!!!!!
sky770 said:
ok.. I really have no idea about what happens and what not happens if i do downgrade my HBOOT but I see many people here on XDA done that (downgraded their HBOOT) Can you shed some light on this topic?
Also, I would definitely want to try official 2.3.5 and/or the official ICS release (whenever they release one; around Q3/Q4 2012? ) so is there any* way to install these if I do revolutionary? I would def. like to find these updates via OTA (will my phone detect these from official HTC servers?)
PS: I am trying to stay as long as with official ROM as of now :| so no near future plans to flash my baby with a custom one
Just need the root
just a few more noob questions to follow
Thanks for reading and replying
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Well the beauty of rooting is trying out custom ROMs... I don't think you should root if you don't intend too. You seriously won't regret it. Just take a NAND backup, you can always restore to it if you don't like the custom ROMs.
And as I have said before...
No, you can't get OTAs once rooted, but you can still install these maually, and you will be able to do it way before the update actually hits your phone 'officially'.
As we have said too, you are in a good position. No need to downgrade at all. Your hboot version is the right one.
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You will not thank me for this, but for your sake I suggest reading instead of writing. All of the info you're asking for is written in the guides, and....
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well..thats what forums are for..uhmmm? to ask people about your doubts and things you don't understand simply. period. anyways..thx for motivating me to through 100+ threads
suku_patel_22 said:
We already have the leak of ICS build for desire S, and it's pretty fast, forget q3
Also we have very functional sense 4 lite, which is faster than sense 3.6.....
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thx bro I have not upgraded my 2.3.3 to 2.3.5 so np
well can you name me the ROM which is the ICS build for htc desire S + has the sense 4 lite (faster than sense 3.6? :O )
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Well the beauty of rooting is trying out custom ROMs... I don't think you should root if you don't intend too.....
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Right.. When I acually was craving for a droid I was crazy as hell to root n try out new ROMs but... when I got an HTC I was simply hands down n thought not to touch this beauty. HTC Desire S is quite a package at this cheap price + hardware config.
PS: just a last ques. for now: which OS is the recommended one? I do have linux mint 10 32 bit edition installed on my machine; its a bit old.. rarely updated the packages n all AND I have windows 7 ultimate 64 bit edition ..so which one would you recommend me to root with?
Thanks a lot guys.
I'll get on it.. and will tell you how things go
Regards,
sky770
Well i felt the same too. It's great out if the box, but you can achieve so much more when rooted.
Do it. Also, Windows 7 is easier.
ROMs? Have you checked the dev forum yet?
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
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well..thats what forums are for..uhmmm? to ask people about your doubts and things you don't understand simply. period. anyways..thx for motivating me to through 100+ threads
thx bro I have not upgraded my 2.3.3 to 2.3.5 so np
well can you name me the ROM which is the ICS build for htc desire S + has the sense 4 lite (faster than sense 3.6? :O )
Right.. When I acually was craving for a droid I was crazy as hell to root n try out new ROMs but... when I got an HTC I was simply hands down n thought not to touch this beauty. HTC Desire S is quite a package at this cheap price + hardware config.
PS: just a last ques. for now: which OS is the recommended one? I do have linux mint 10 32 bit edition installed on my machine; its a bit old.. rarely updated the packages n all AND I have windows 7 ultimate 64 bit edition ..so which one would you recommend me to root with?
Thanks a lot guys.
I'll get on it.. and will tell you how things go
Regards,
sky770
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First thing, you dont need to read 100+ threads, the index is in my signature with all sorts of information
STOCK ICS Sense 3.6: Virtuous Saga
Sense 4.0A(One V port): Fallout
And yes, any OS that you are comfortable with should be fine.. I did it on Win 7
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well..thats what forums are for..uhmmm? to ask people about your doubts and things you don't understand simply. period. anyways..thx for motivating me to through 100+ threads
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No, that's not what forums are for. You should probably look at the name of the forum and think, what does "-developers" part stand for, and why isn't it called "XDA-users-in-doubt-that-are-too-lazy-to-bother-reading". Your "period" you can use elsewhere.
To your last question: Windows is what the guides are written for, so doing everything on Windows will be better - it won't require you to understand and "translate" everything to Linux.
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No, that's not what forums are for. You should probably look at the name of the forum and think, what does "-developers" part stand for, and why isn't it called "XDA-users-in-doubt-that-are-too-lazy-to-bother-reading".
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(wish I could give this a thumbs up too )
@sky770... The guys are right, In my opinion it's only worth rooting your device if you plan to try a couple of custom ROM's. You seriously won't regret. HTC have a habit of leaving some of the older devices to "fall & die" without providing updates. Through the hard work and determination of some of these guys on here, You will not only have your handset kept alive but also at the same level as some as HTC's flagship devices.
As for recommendation on ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1679125