[Q] Titanium Backup Restore Issue - General Questions and Answers

[Q] Titanium Backup Restore Issue - General Questions and Answers

(First off, this is my first post so my apologies if I've done anything improper here)
Ok, so there are a lot of posts about Titanium Backup restore issues but I haven't quite been able to fix my problem. I'm not trying batch restores or anything complicated like that, and the advice I've seen in the past and on the Titanium Backup FAQs doesn't work. Here's my problem:
Yesterday I backed up then uninstalled "Facebook for HTC Sense 1.0" but then realized that my phone (HTC Incredible) uses that to link my contacts with their Facebook profiles (for pictures, birthday notifications, etc.). So today I went to restore it and Titanium Backup just hangs (there is a spinning wheel on the left and it says "Restoring App: 'Facebook for HTC Sense 1.0'") It does this whether I try restoring just the app or app+data.
I have root and updated busybox from the "Problems" button in the app. Many people on here have said to go to "Troubleshooting settings" and change the "App processing mode" but when I go there that option is greyed out. I'm sure this would work (it has for others it seems), but I don;t know what to do since it is greyed out.
I thought about reinstalling Titanium Backup, but I don't want to lose my data to restore from. I don't know how that works.
Anyone know what to do?
UPDATE: Well I don't think reinstalling would help, since an update just came through the market. I figure an update would've fixed anything that a reinstall would have. Also, to add a little more information on the problem, I was able to restore "Adobe Reader 9.0.1" but not able to restore "Footprints 1.10" (another HTC built-in app)

I have the same problem on my HTC Desire.
After installing the latest CyanogenMod, I wanted to return a couple of the HTC-supplied apps. Titanium Backup gets superuser permissions and seems happy, but then freezes at 0% restore. The application processing option in preferences is always greyed out.

Hi guys, one thing that I learned while migrating to Cyanogenmod is that restoring HTC apps will really hurt stability and possibly lead to bootlooping, as there is no HTC sense framework for their apps to work correctly. AFAIK, there is no way around that. I learned the hard way that restoring all apps and data just will not work between AOSP roms and Sense roms. I'm sorry I can't offer more help on it, but you'll need to pick and choose your apps and data and make sure you don't bring Sense/HTC stuff into Cyanogenmod. I know, it's frustrating! Good luck guys!
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We'll my problem is slightly different because I'm still using sense. I didn't load any new roms. I removed it and then tried to restore the next day without making any other changes. So why won't my apps restore?
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what did you remove? was it a system app or something you installed from the market? system apps, when "removed" even when backed up, don't reinstall from my experience. I never had any problem reinstalling any user apps that were properly backed up though.

I'm wondering if this is something to do with HTC's "S on" extra security.
Need to read up on this — anyone have a good resource about it? It seems a bit more obscure than just rooting, with some unreliable-looking websites about it. And I'm coming at this as a total n00b
But the system folder does indeed seem to have some kind of extra write-protection going on, even when accessing it as root.

I have a G2X and I have also learned the hard way that Titanium will not restore system apps. So the problem your having has nothing to do with Sence. If you search the for forums hard enough there is info on the topic
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So... If I do a factory reset on my phone then, will all be fixed? Or does uninstalling it remove it from wherever the factory reset would pull from?
I'll probably need to root it again after, but I just want that "Facebook for HTC Sense" app back so my contacts link with their facebook profiles for continually updating phone numbers, profile pictures, etc.
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Problem Solved
I flashed Liberation Enhanced v1.00 yesterday and everything is fixed. Liberation does all that I wanted to do in the first place: have Sense without the bloatware. It was my first time flashing a new ROM and I'm happy to say it went very well
(Now once I get enough posts in, I can add it to my signature like everyone on here seems to like to do)

guess you fixed the issue, but dealing with Titanium Backup, i sometimes have it hanging when i freeze/unfreeze or sometimes it hangs/freezes when backing up/restoring. in the settings there's like some different restoration methods it lets you choose (Direct, Indirect, and something else), but switching it to Indirect Method fixed the issue for me, so just incase someone else runs into a similar problem. im on a SGS4G.

Liquid Smoke said:
guess you fixed the issue, but dealing with Titanium Backup, i sometimes have it hanging when i freeze/unfreeze or sometimes it hangs/freezes when backing up/restoring. in the settings there's like some different restoration methods it lets you choose (Direct, Indirect, and something else), but switching it to Indirect Method fixed the issue for me, so just incase someone else runs into a similar problem. im on a SGS4G.
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I think what you're talking about may be part of the "App processing mode" option that I said was greyed out for some reason on my phone.

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[Q] Backup Apps

I am new to android so please excuse me if this is common knowledge. I was wondering about backup apps. I heard about titanium and nandroid. I was wondering which one is the best or if there are any others out that might be worth a look. What does Google or Sense 2.0 automatically back up?
Thanks!

bigcrav said:
I am new to android so please excuse me if this is common knowledge. I was wondering about backup apps. I heard about titanium and nandroid. I was wondering which one is the best or if there are any others out that might be worth a look. What does Google or Sense 2.0 automatically back up?
Thanks!
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Nandroid typically backs up your entire system as it is. Meaning settings, apps, themes, kernel, etc... whereas Titanium Backup will backup data. It's always good to have a working nandroid backup, in case you find yourself flashing a bad rom/kernel or otherwise getting into a bad state, you can always roll back to your nandroid backup.
Titanium Backup is really handy for backing up your apps and their data (saved games, etc...). I've heard MyBackup is good too, but haven't tried it yet.
I'm not sure what all Google backs up, but from what I've seen (and this is just a quick 'off the top of my head' list) it has settings (wifi information, wallpaper, homescreen setup), contacts in your google account and apps from the marketplace. I'm sure it backs up more, that's just all I can think of at the moment.
As for Sense... I'm not sure. This is my first official Sense device, but I noticed some old SMS messages come up out of nowhere. I'm sure doing some googling will give you the info you want though.

Thanks man. Very helpful.
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When my apps from my captivate magically appeared on my Inspire after signing in to google I was impressed, and quite glad I always turn on wifi when setting up a phone.

i've always preferred appmanager over titanium backup.
recently though, with an updated version of appinstaller (by gregory house), they implimented a backup option which i've stuck with. appinstaller is the most lightweight, reliable app installing/uninstalling/backup program i've come across.

[Q] Hotboots after installing too many apps?

Hello, I am hoping y'all can tell me if my phone is just bad hardware, or if this is normal. Since installing the update, I've had to factory reset my phone 4 times so far after something triggers hotboots. Every time I try to ID an app or it is involves the SD card, it turns out to not be related when installing the next time after a reset.
Today I installed all of my paid apps from the Google Market, many of my Amazon apps, and then moved everything to SD card without issue. After downloading so many apps, I'd use App2SD Pro to move them over in batches, and log the apps being moved or installed and if they triggered hotboots.
I then started grabbing the free apps that I could remember using from the Market, reboot, and still fine. When I felt I was nearly done and "safe", I decided to move the last 6 apps that could be moved over to my SD card. Upon rebooting, hotboots began. Uninstalling anything that even looks like it loads into memory automatically, plus those 6 apps, has not helped.
I am wondering if I am tripping some counter when I near/exceed 200 apps and that is triggering hotboots until I factory reset. Currently trying to uninstall more apps between hotboots in the hopes that will help. I am suspecting it is Gingerbread, as I did see this on a leaked build, and not on Froyo.
Those last 6 apps were nothing system related. Just NASA, Inotia 3, Kayak, Medieval Empires, Defender, and Elixir 2. Earlier it tripped after installing Android Assistant and Android System Info. Before that it tripped when I added the Amazon shopping, Student, MP3, and Pricewatch apps.
Why so many apps? Just testing some out to see what I like and don't like.
So, is my phone hosed or salvageable? The hardware has been great so far, just software issues under Froyo and I suspect the same with Gingerbread.
And is anyone else able to repeat this issue on their phone?

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Thank you Lufc, I totally spaced when I posted it in the wrong area.
Troubleshooting further (by selectively adding the 50 free apps I own from Amazon), the hotboots do indeed seem to be related to having around 200 apps installed.
Could anyone else please test this theory out and confirm/refute them from your experience?

Haha, I can't even think of having that many apps. what's the point of you installing that many? Do you actually use all of them?
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Nah, I really don't use most of them. I just want to see what is out there and test stuff out. Since uninstalling quite a few, I've been stable. Shame I have to uninstall anything when I still have plenty of storage and ram.

I'm having similar problems. Have around 200 apps I like. Not everyday, but occassional. In trying to build an EP4D system using stock or Infinity everything goes bad each time I exceed some fairly large number of app installs. The system is then too unstable to fix and I end up rebuilding.....

I have 195 apps on top of stock ep4d deodexed/debloated that I use a fair bit. I have been totally stable. I should admit that I froze a bunch of stock BS though.
Your hardware is probably fine. You could try stability test from the Market to see if you're hardware seems stable. I personally haven't had any problems with app-whoring so far.
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It's hard to get a total number of apps, but counting the bloatware and the number of icons under apps gives me a good approximation. I've been trying and testing, and each time the phone is perfectly fine and stable up until around the 200 mark. Odd that I see this under Gingerbread, but never under Froyo. I wonder if Gingerbread has some little known bug that we are hitting when run on our hardware.

I bet you something is borked that that is unrelated to actual number of apps.
What I would do is:
Install Titanium Backup.
Backup the apps you want. Don't backup stuff like that's included in your ROM of choice like Gmail since you can update that via Market. Just backup the stuff you know is not already installed and that you will want.
One thing that auto-updates no matter what I seem to do on stock/deoxed EP4D is Google books.
When you get all your backups then go ahead and nuke your phone. I suggest using CWM 4.0.1.4 to create a backup image in case you need to restore without having to set up your system.
Install whatever ROM/kernel/etc. you want.
Get Root.
Install Titanium Backup.
After everthing is booted, I usually let the Market update and let the couple few apps that the Market wants to update download.
When you are ready, run a Batch operation with Titanium Backup to restore all your apps. Its your choice whether you want to restore data as well.
Generally, I restore app + data because few of my apps have trouble restoring the data.
Run all your apps to make sure they work. Clear data on apps that don't work.
I suggest clearing data on the Market after you get all your apps working.
Freeze the crap that you don't want running.
See what happens.
I kid you not, I have no nearly 0 problems restoring over 190 apps with a batch operation.

Earlier today my phone, after 2.5 hours of heavy use, started turning itself off within minutes of being booted. Swapped battery, cleared cache, played with wifi settings and 4g, nothing worked. Reset the phone and all is well. Decided to only load apps I actually use, and will follow the steps in the post above later tonight.

xdadevnube said:
I bet you something is borked that that is unrelated to actual number of apps.
What I would do is:
Install Titanium Backup.....
I kid you not, I have no nearly 0 problems restoring over 190 apps with a batch operation.
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Not sure if it's related to number of apps or size of installed apps, but this is a real thing on EP4D. i'm having it happen on Stock, Debloated and Infinity. It occurs at just over 200 apps. Phone works great until one too many batch restores of 5-6 apps and then it will start hotbooting and become uncontrollable. Only thing to do is reinstall. Done it about 5 times now.
In order to get to 200 or so apps (at least the 200 I want), I always end up having to do some Apps2SD movements for Plants vs. Zombies, etc. I actually think the problem is related to that because I installed around 175, dropped all games (which is all I will move to SD) and then batch restored another couple of dozen and it appeared stable for as long as I left it.
Gonna go back, install debloated from scratch and install only what I gotta have. Just tired of messing with it.

I rooted and restored only the bare minimum of what I use, plus a few games. I just don't want to mess with it anymore. I did use Tom's guide to pull off some bloatware (backed up first) and will just leave the phone alone for now. I lose too many hours tweaking every damn program each time, logging in and tweaking settings lost its fun the 5th time I restored.
Applications now listed exactly 100 apps, and I don't want to fight with it anymore. At least not for now.
Kimmie, who thought I had broke it when I rooted last night and did not have data. Glad to see Verizon had a 12 hour or so outage then, and that my phone is fine.

I'm now at about 198 or 199 apps that I installed on EP4D deodexed/deloated using batch (app+data) on Titanium Backup and it works perfect.
Yikes, I wonder if a few more apps is going to put me over the edge.
In this case, I'm thinking you should get some logcats and see if anyone can give you any hints- unfortunately, I don't have much experience with reading logcats, but its worth a shot.

Again, don't know if it's exact number or some combo with how much has been moved to SD. Here's an AppBrain list of what I currently have working. I didn't look so I hope there's nothing TOO embarrassing in there .
I also own an Asus Transformer and here's the AppBrain list of what is on that machine. Obviously I'm basically just trying to make the two match up so I can do whatever I want regardless of which device I have with me.
Somewhere between the two lists is where I start getting the hot loops right after the machine gets to the desktop on a powerup.

For me it is the total number of apps, and not related to moving to SD. I tested this with smaller file size apps as our internal rom is gimped at barely over 1gb. I have Amazon's free app of the day to thank for a wide selection of apps to test.
Think it could be related to our CPU?

[Q] How do you go about setting your phone up after new ROM?

It seems like every time I set up a new ROM, it takes me forever to get everything set back up and I always miss something, contacts are missing, apps go all wonky... I used to backup all my apps and data, but a lot of the time the new ROM will download many of the apps I had, so when I restore the backup of my Apps, it screws everything all up.
So I guess my questions is... Whats the most sufficient, easiest, most thorough way of restoring all apps and whatnot on a new ROM?

For the basics use the market app to backup your sms to google cant remember what its called, backup your contacts to google (highly recommend) that way you will never loose them.
For apps i would only ever backup downloaded apps with titanium backup pro. System apps can be a pain in the ass to restore.
Other than that everything else is fairly easy...
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Hmm... Ive never gone about backing up SYSTEM apps, but like paid apps, that Ive bought and backed up, seem to get all jacked when I restore or reinstall them. Ive tried a few different methods of restoring my system and never get it to go smoothly. Didnt know if there was an easier way. Thanks for the info!

You might want to upon first boot of the new ROM, bypass initial setup with the tap corners trick, restore apps with Titanium, then resume the setup process. Market will see your apps as already having been installed and not bugger everything up.

Good idea! Hadnt thought of that. Will try with my next rom. Thanks! Anymore tips out there?

First thing I thought of was nandroid backup using clockworkmod on a rooted device. I have restored my phone countless times and everything restores exactly how it was.

sometime i got errors while restoring with CWM..
Titanium is still the recommended.

When I first started out, I actually had to make a list and check it off. Eventually, I found some apps that would cover those items (Titanium, etc), but still even with that I have to manually go in and do a few settings. MIUI ROMS have a backup program (I used MIUI on my HD2) and it seemed to do a decent job.

I usually keep a current back up of all apps from market(not system apps) made from my backup pro. Everything else gets a fresh start.
When I switch android versions ei, from gingerbread to ics, nothing gets restored, everything is a fresh install from market.
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Was it through CWM rom manager or manual recovery mode? I mean did you install a kernel that installed cwm or did you install rom manager? After a couple weeks walking around blind I figured out that flashing the right kernel gets cwm to work without problems.

Restoring system settings is a big no no. It is just asking for trouble as with each update the source code is changed and then you are restoring outdated settings that may or may not be there.
TIBU is still the main app restore program. As for restoring settings that is never advices. Well unless you like troubleshooting random errors lol

Thanks for ALL the replies! Some stuff I hadnt thought of in here, and some stuff to try. If anyone else has any more info, please feel free to share. I have heard that restoring settings is asking for trouble, so luckily Im not too picky about those. I really only change the haptic feedback and stuff off the bat, anyway. It also sucks losing all my WiFi networks and having to have all my friends dig up their network passwords.
Anyway, gonna try out some of this stuff today as Im sick of the ROM I just flashed. Still waiting on MIUI getting that MMS workin

zelendel said:
Restoring system settings is a big no no. It is just asking for trouble as with each update the source code is changed and then you are restoring outdated settings that may or may not be there.
TIBU is still the main app restore program. As for restoring settings that is never advices. Well unless you like troubleshooting random errors lol
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I concur, system restores after updates, different roms etc are a nightmare lol. It might be a pain in the a$$ but i ALWAYS start afresh after each flash and never use the same data image lol