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I am new to android so please excuse me if this is common knowledge. I was wondering about backup apps. I heard about titanium and nandroid. I was wondering which one is the best or if there are any others out that might be worth a look. What does Google or Sense 2.0 automatically back up?
Thanks!
bigcrav said:
I am new to android so please excuse me if this is common knowledge. I was wondering about backup apps. I heard about titanium and nandroid. I was wondering which one is the best or if there are any others out that might be worth a look. What does Google or Sense 2.0 automatically back up?
Thanks!
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Nandroid typically backs up your entire system as it is. Meaning settings, apps, themes, kernel, etc... whereas Titanium Backup will backup data. It's always good to have a working nandroid backup, in case you find yourself flashing a bad rom/kernel or otherwise getting into a bad state, you can always roll back to your nandroid backup.
Titanium Backup is really handy for backing up your apps and their data (saved games, etc...). I've heard MyBackup is good too, but haven't tried it yet.
I'm not sure what all Google backs up, but from what I've seen (and this is just a quick 'off the top of my head' list) it has settings (wifi information, wallpaper, homescreen setup), contacts in your google account and apps from the marketplace. I'm sure it backs up more, that's just all I can think of at the moment.
As for Sense... I'm not sure. This is my first official Sense device, but I noticed some old SMS messages come up out of nowhere. I'm sure doing some googling will give you the info you want though.
Thanks man. Very helpful.
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When my apps from my captivate magically appeared on my Inspire after signing in to google I was impressed, and quite glad I always turn on wifi when setting up a phone.
i've always preferred appmanager over titanium backup.
recently though, with an updated version of appinstaller (by gregory house), they implimented a backup option which i've stuck with. appinstaller is the most lightweight, reliable app installing/uninstalling/backup program i've come across.
(First off, this is my first post so my apologies if I've done anything improper here)
Ok, so there are a lot of posts about Titanium Backup restore issues but I haven't quite been able to fix my problem. I'm not trying batch restores or anything complicated like that, and the advice I've seen in the past and on the Titanium Backup FAQs doesn't work. Here's my problem:
Yesterday I backed up then uninstalled "Facebook for HTC Sense 1.0" but then realized that my phone (HTC Incredible) uses that to link my contacts with their Facebook profiles (for pictures, birthday notifications, etc.). So today I went to restore it and Titanium Backup just hangs (there is a spinning wheel on the left and it says "Restoring App: 'Facebook for HTC Sense 1.0'") It does this whether I try restoring just the app or app+data.
I have root and updated busybox from the "Problems" button in the app. Many people on here have said to go to "Troubleshooting settings" and change the "App processing mode" but when I go there that option is greyed out. I'm sure this would work (it has for others it seems), but I don;t know what to do since it is greyed out.
I thought about reinstalling Titanium Backup, but I don't want to lose my data to restore from. I don't know how that works.
Anyone know what to do?
UPDATE: Well I don't think reinstalling would help, since an update just came through the market. I figure an update would've fixed anything that a reinstall would have. Also, to add a little more information on the problem, I was able to restore "Adobe Reader 9.0.1" but not able to restore "Footprints 1.10" (another HTC built-in app)
I have the same problem on my HTC Desire.
After installing the latest CyanogenMod, I wanted to return a couple of the HTC-supplied apps. Titanium Backup gets superuser permissions and seems happy, but then freezes at 0% restore. The application processing option in preferences is always greyed out.
Hi guys, one thing that I learned while migrating to Cyanogenmod is that restoring HTC apps will really hurt stability and possibly lead to bootlooping, as there is no HTC sense framework for their apps to work correctly. AFAIK, there is no way around that. I learned the hard way that restoring all apps and data just will not work between AOSP roms and Sense roms. I'm sorry I can't offer more help on it, but you'll need to pick and choose your apps and data and make sure you don't bring Sense/HTC stuff into Cyanogenmod. I know, it's frustrating! Good luck guys!
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We'll my problem is slightly different because I'm still using sense. I didn't load any new roms. I removed it and then tried to restore the next day without making any other changes. So why won't my apps restore?
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what did you remove? was it a system app or something you installed from the market? system apps, when "removed" even when backed up, don't reinstall from my experience. I never had any problem reinstalling any user apps that were properly backed up though.
I'm wondering if this is something to do with HTC's "S on" extra security.
Need to read up on this — anyone have a good resource about it? It seems a bit more obscure than just rooting, with some unreliable-looking websites about it. And I'm coming at this as a total n00b
But the system folder does indeed seem to have some kind of extra write-protection going on, even when accessing it as root.
I have a G2X and I have also learned the hard way that Titanium will not restore system apps. So the problem your having has nothing to do with Sence. If you search the for forums hard enough there is info on the topic
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So... If I do a factory reset on my phone then, will all be fixed? Or does uninstalling it remove it from wherever the factory reset would pull from?
I'll probably need to root it again after, but I just want that "Facebook for HTC Sense" app back so my contacts link with their facebook profiles for continually updating phone numbers, profile pictures, etc.
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I flashed Liberation Enhanced v1.00 yesterday and everything is fixed. Liberation does all that I wanted to do in the first place: have Sense without the bloatware. It was my first time flashing a new ROM and I'm happy to say it went very well
(Now once I get enough posts in, I can add it to my signature like everyone on here seems to like to do)
guess you fixed the issue, but dealing with Titanium Backup, i sometimes have it hanging when i freeze/unfreeze or sometimes it hangs/freezes when backing up/restoring. in the settings there's like some different restoration methods it lets you choose (Direct, Indirect, and something else), but switching it to Indirect Method fixed the issue for me, so just incase someone else runs into a similar problem. im on a SGS4G.
Liquid Smoke said:
guess you fixed the issue, but dealing with Titanium Backup, i sometimes have it hanging when i freeze/unfreeze or sometimes it hangs/freezes when backing up/restoring. in the settings there's like some different restoration methods it lets you choose (Direct, Indirect, and something else), but switching it to Indirect Method fixed the issue for me, so just incase someone else runs into a similar problem. im on a SGS4G.
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I think what you're talking about may be part of the "App processing mode" option that I said was greyed out for some reason on my phone.
It seems like every time I set up a new ROM, it takes me forever to get everything set back up and I always miss something, contacts are missing, apps go all wonky... I used to backup all my apps and data, but a lot of the time the new ROM will download many of the apps I had, so when I restore the backup of my Apps, it screws everything all up.
So I guess my questions is... Whats the most sufficient, easiest, most thorough way of restoring all apps and whatnot on a new ROM?
For the basics use the market app to backup your sms to google cant remember what its called, backup your contacts to google (highly recommend) that way you will never loose them.
For apps i would only ever backup downloaded apps with titanium backup pro. System apps can be a pain in the ass to restore.
Other than that everything else is fairly easy...
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Hmm... Ive never gone about backing up SYSTEM apps, but like paid apps, that Ive bought and backed up, seem to get all jacked when I restore or reinstall them. Ive tried a few different methods of restoring my system and never get it to go smoothly. Didnt know if there was an easier way. Thanks for the info!
You might want to upon first boot of the new ROM, bypass initial setup with the tap corners trick, restore apps with Titanium, then resume the setup process. Market will see your apps as already having been installed and not bugger everything up.
Good idea! Hadnt thought of that. Will try with my next rom. Thanks! Anymore tips out there?
First thing I thought of was nandroid backup using clockworkmod on a rooted device. I have restored my phone countless times and everything restores exactly how it was.
sometime i got errors while restoring with CWM..
Titanium is still the recommended.
When I first started out, I actually had to make a list and check it off. Eventually, I found some apps that would cover those items (Titanium, etc), but still even with that I have to manually go in and do a few settings. MIUI ROMS have a backup program (I used MIUI on my HD2) and it seemed to do a decent job.
I usually keep a current back up of all apps from market(not system apps) made from my backup pro. Everything else gets a fresh start.
When I switch android versions ei, from gingerbread to ics, nothing gets restored, everything is a fresh install from market.
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Was it through CWM rom manager or manual recovery mode? I mean did you install a kernel that installed cwm or did you install rom manager? After a couple weeks walking around blind I figured out that flashing the right kernel gets cwm to work without problems.
Restoring system settings is a big no no. It is just asking for trouble as with each update the source code is changed and then you are restoring outdated settings that may or may not be there.
TIBU is still the main app restore program. As for restoring settings that is never advices. Well unless you like troubleshooting random errors lol
Thanks for ALL the replies! Some stuff I hadnt thought of in here, and some stuff to try. If anyone else has any more info, please feel free to share. I have heard that restoring settings is asking for trouble, so luckily Im not too picky about those. I really only change the haptic feedback and stuff off the bat, anyway. It also sucks losing all my WiFi networks and having to have all my friends dig up their network passwords.
Anyway, gonna try out some of this stuff today as Im sick of the ROM I just flashed. Still waiting on MIUI getting that MMS workin
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Restoring system settings is a big no no. It is just asking for trouble as with each update the source code is changed and then you are restoring outdated settings that may or may not be there.
TIBU is still the main app restore program. As for restoring settings that is never advices. Well unless you like troubleshooting random errors lol
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I concur, system restores after updates, different roms etc are a nightmare lol. It might be a pain in the a$$ but i ALWAYS start afresh after each flash and never use the same data image lol
I would love to optimize my ROM-flashing process. Currently it takes me about an hour for everything to get setup how I want it. Is there any way I can make it faster? Here is what I do:
1. Nandroid backup current rom
2. Flash rom+gapps
3. Download TB from the market
4. TB restore all my apps from the nandroid backup
5. Setup haxsync and start it syncing
6. Setup system options(CPU, display, lockscreen, notification bar, etc)
7. Setup superuser+root apps(firewall, adblocker, etc)
8. Setup misc. options for all my apps(gmail label settings, google voice, etc)
9. Delete useless apps using Root Explorer(rom manager, etc)
10. Fix/redo homescreen widgets
11. V6 resupercharge
12. Install volume mod over ADB
Takes me close to that
I flash the rom and let it boot
Then i firstly adjust brightness setings and such
- then directly get titanium backup i restore everything
- i find my .vcf file in my sd card restore contacts whit that
- then i configure my homescreens and im all set
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Nandroid backup, flash Rom, restore data from backup, done.
If there's problems then full wipe and use your method but most of the time there probably won't be. Just don't annoy devs till Uve wiped and installed first
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dmcb123 said:
Nandroid backup, flash Rom, restore data from backup, done.
If there's problems then full wipe and use your method but most of the time there probably won't be. Just don't annoy devs till Uve wiped and installed first
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Damn never though of doing that way ! Will try
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Ha ha ha!! That is a great question.....
Today I flashed new ROM... took me half a day just to remember what I've done 9 month ago.... Then had to place correct files together to get it running....
Used to take me like 30 minutes....... Getting older....LOL
shahkam said:
Damn never though of doing that way ! Will try
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i only restore apps that have data that cant be replaced ie games and what not. everything else like google voice, espn score board, i just re-install from the market *cough* google play.
i like having things new and fresh. can be a pain if you have alot to install, but i just feel like the phone works better. whether or not theres any truth to it is another story
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i only restore apps that have data that cant be replaced ie games and what not. everything else like google voice, espn score board, i just re-install from the market *cough* google play.
i like having things new and fresh. can be a pain if you have alot to install, but i just feel like the phone works better. whether or not theres any truth to it is another story
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Usually if you purchase titanium backup it restore apps and data of it whit no issue + wifi access points and apns which is good but now it takes me.30 mins only because im running same setup since the past year lol..
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Always takes me a long time. I use Desktop Visualizer on my homescreens because I like having my icon names written in Chinese or Japanese. Thankfully there most settings can be restored, like for Nova launcher and GoSMS Pro.
The worst part is going through and deleting the apps I don't use from the rom. I don't mind waiting for the flash, it's still somewhat exciting waiting for a new rom to install, but once it's up and running I go into titanium and delete all the apps I'm never going to use one by one. I'm sure there's a more time-efficient way but that's all I know how to do right now haha.
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The worst part is going through and deleting the apps I don't use from the rom. I don't mind waiting for the flash, it's still somewhat exciting waiting for a new rom to install, but once it's up and running I go into titanium and delete all the apps I'm never going to use one by one. I'm sure there's a more time-efficient way but that's all I know how to do right now haha.
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One by one?? Suck it up and donate for the pro version already.
For me it's about 30 minutes. Flash rom, restore apps with data, strip Sense with TB filters, set up emails, restore sms, and bring back widgets. Thankfully restoring Nova Launcher with data also brings your icons back in the same place.
Titanium Backup is worth every penny, and it will last you forever, It has so many more options when you buy the paid version.....
Anyway, it takes me about 30-40mins to do the whole process, I have TB Scheduled to backup once a week so i always have an upto date backup (im a constant flasher, in more ways than one )
So what i do is :
>Flash the ROM
>Restore my backup
>Add my MODZ
>Reboot once or twice
>Log in to all my social stuff - Gmail, FB, XDA and so on....
ITS A PIECE OF P155 !!!
Theres a script called ROM Cleaner, this will remove a default list of htc stuff of the ROM - to save you removing via root explorer and such... Or you can create your own list of stuff to remove, So when you flash the ROM, these things in your list will automatically be removed, this saves time and saves having to pick what apps to remove...
Im sure theres some apps out there that will backup your homescreen layout and settings, Some launchers even have this option built in to them. So check it out.
Well it takes me only 20 minutes... Full wipe, install and reboot
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Well it takes me only 20 minutes... Full wipe, install and reboot
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Me too... Usually less...
I don't do nandroids... Total waste of time for me. I backed up everything I wanted with titanium beforehand so the extra step is pointless. Plus I flash titanium backup from a zip in recovery if it's not included in the rom. All my accounts and everything are restored through that. Setup takes no time. Waiting for the phone to reboot twice is the only thing that takes a real amount of time.
P.S. All you guys complaining it takes to much time to delete useless apps... You realize you can just delete them from the zip before you even flash the rom right? Then they aren't installed to begin with.. No dalvik cache is created for it.. Time saver.
I'm usually done in max 20mins, so from the first time getting into recover till after the last reboot. Dont use backup programs, because I only have a few apps/games.
Hi everyone,
Since probably all of you here in XDA flash new ROM's on a daily/weekly/monthly basis, do you always have to go through all the phone setup process?
I find this to be quite an issue becasue I have to setup all the home screen icons and folders, notifications per Gmail account, language and keyboard settings, per app settings.. you name it.
It takes about 3 hours for me to set everything up including installing all the applications. In addition, I loose all SMS.
I use TitaniumBackup but I found that it cannot restore everything and in many cases it will cause more harm than good so I avoid it unless I only need individual apps.
As for system settings and what not, is there a better solution for this setup process so it will be easier to update ROM versions?
I'm currently on 5.0.2 and want to update to 5.1.1
gil80 said:
Hi everyone,
Since probably all of you here in XDA flash new ROM's on a daily/weekly/monthly basis, do you always have to go through all the phone setup process?
I find this to be quite an issue becasue I have to setup all the home screen icons and folders, notifications per Gmail account, language and keyboard settings, per app settings.. you name it.
It takes about 3 hours for me to set everything up including installing all the applications. In addition, I loose all SMS.
I use TitaniumBackup but I found that it cannot restore everything and in many cases it will cause more harm than good so I avoid it unless I only need individual apps.
As for system settings and what not, is there a better solution for this setup process so it will be easier to update ROM versions?
I'm currently on 5.0.2 and want to update to 5.1.1
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Well you definitely need to clean flash when going from 5.0.2 to 5.1.1, no question about that. As far as the launcher goes, I use Nova Prime so I back that up with Titanium and then just restore it after flashing. You should be able to do that with any launcher. And when it comes to the system data (settings, etc) you do need to set that up from scratch. I mean you could try backing up your system data in order to restore it after the flash but it's a huge no-no and will most likely just cause issues. Sorry to say it but this manual setup stuff is part and parcel of flashing ROMs. I know my setup quite well so it takes me less than 15 mins to setup my phone after a clean flash.
Heisenberg said:
Well you definitely need to clean flash when going from 5.0.2 to 5.1.1, no question about that. As far as the launcher goes, I use Nova Prime so I back that up with Titanium and then just restore it after flashing. You should be able to do that with any launcher. And when it comes to the system data (settings, etc) you do need to set that up from scratch. I mean you could try backing up your system data in order to restore it after the flash but it's a huge no-no and will most likely just cause issues. Sorry to say it but this manual setup stuff is part and parcel of flashing ROMs. I know my setup quite well so it takes me less than 15 mins to setup my phone after a clean flash.
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I use Google Now luncher and there are no backup settings for it. I don't believe TiB can help either, unless someone knows what is the value that needs to be backed up.
As for other settings, for example I always change the keyboard sounds and boot animation. Then I have o setup all the accounts which is iffy... I hope someone could come up with an application that does it.
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gil80 said:
I use Google Now luncher and there are no backup settings for it. I don't believe TiB can help either, unless someone knows what is the value that needs to be backed up.
As for other settings, for example I always change the keyboard sounds and boot animation. Then I have o setup all the accounts which is iffy... I hope someone could come up with an application that does it.
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All you need to do is use TiBu to backup the Google Now Launcher app, then you restore the app + data after the flash, simple as that.
There is an application that does that: TiBu. But it isn't advisable to backup/restore system data. Any other app that would be capable of doing it would have the same risk involved. It isn't a problem with the app, it's a problem with the concept.