I am new to android so please excuse me if this is common knowledge. I was wondering about backup apps. I heard about titanium and nandroid. I was wondering which one is the best or if there are any others out that might be worth a look. What does Google or Sense 2.0 automatically back up?
Thanks!
bigcrav said:
I am new to android so please excuse me if this is common knowledge. I was wondering about backup apps. I heard about titanium and nandroid. I was wondering which one is the best or if there are any others out that might be worth a look. What does Google or Sense 2.0 automatically back up?
Thanks!
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Nandroid typically backs up your entire system as it is. Meaning settings, apps, themes, kernel, etc... whereas Titanium Backup will backup data. It's always good to have a working nandroid backup, in case you find yourself flashing a bad rom/kernel or otherwise getting into a bad state, you can always roll back to your nandroid backup.
Titanium Backup is really handy for backing up your apps and their data (saved games, etc...). I've heard MyBackup is good too, but haven't tried it yet.
I'm not sure what all Google backs up, but from what I've seen (and this is just a quick 'off the top of my head' list) it has settings (wifi information, wallpaper, homescreen setup), contacts in your google account and apps from the marketplace. I'm sure it backs up more, that's just all I can think of at the moment.
As for Sense... I'm not sure. This is my first official Sense device, but I noticed some old SMS messages come up out of nowhere. I'm sure doing some googling will give you the info you want though.
Thanks man. Very helpful.
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When my apps from my captivate magically appeared on my Inspire after signing in to google I was impressed, and quite glad I always turn on wifi when setting up a phone.
i've always preferred appmanager over titanium backup.
recently though, with an updated version of appinstaller (by gregory house), they implimented a backup option which i've stuck with. appinstaller is the most lightweight, reliable app installing/uninstalling/backup program i've come across.
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So I'm regretting not rooting my phone sooner. HTC Evo, about 5 weeks old.
When I got it it came w/ 2.2 and was in the period when there was no root for 2.2.
I played around and got dependent on my phone but now I see that without root I don't have any real reliable [thorough] backup of my phone.
Or do I?
What options are there that will backup AND restore most if not all of my data to my phone if/when the sh!t hits the fan (or I decide to root one of these days).
I'd like a 1 step type solution - for those of you familiar w/ the Palm think Resco Backup. Full backup (w/ incrementals!) to SD card based on my defined schedule. I'm shocked and amazed (not to mention disgusted) that this doesn't exist on Android. I've searched the market ad-naseum (and here and Google) so either I've overlooked it or it's absent. If you know the way please share the wealth.
If I have to piecemeal solutions together then these are my specific concerns:
Calendar and Contacts - I think I'm OK here - using HTC Sync to Outlook on desktop. I should be ok with that right? else, what do you suggest?
SMS - I REALLY have to be able to restore this. I'm using Handcent if that helps any (dont' think so but..). This is a must.
Call Logs - Like SMS, absolutely must be able to backup and restore this.
Pictures, etc. taken with the phone
K9 mail and setings - I'm using IMAP so the mail is safe but I'd rather not reconfig 7 email accounts again. Actually cant something backup the prefs/settings for all my apps at once?
Apps - when I put my gmail user into [e.g] a new phone, does it just go to the market and redownload whatever apps I had? Not sure how this works so maybe it's not necessary to backup my apps themselves.
Any other personal/important data I'm not thinking about?
In the end I'd really like an absolute restore function that gets me back to how I was the moment the backup was taken. If I can't have that, what the closest I can get?
Thanks much for reading and any input you have.
It's much appreciated.
J.
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Please, any help or direction would be appreciated.
Thanks much all.
Mybackup pro on the market handles most of that without root. Sms, mms, bookmarks, system settings. After root it will back up apps and the market link too.
Swyped with my Evo 4g running Fresh Evo 3.3.0.1
(First off, this is my first post so my apologies if I've done anything improper here)
Ok, so there are a lot of posts about Titanium Backup restore issues but I haven't quite been able to fix my problem. I'm not trying batch restores or anything complicated like that, and the advice I've seen in the past and on the Titanium Backup FAQs doesn't work. Here's my problem:
Yesterday I backed up then uninstalled "Facebook for HTC Sense 1.0" but then realized that my phone (HTC Incredible) uses that to link my contacts with their Facebook profiles (for pictures, birthday notifications, etc.). So today I went to restore it and Titanium Backup just hangs (there is a spinning wheel on the left and it says "Restoring App: 'Facebook for HTC Sense 1.0'") It does this whether I try restoring just the app or app+data.
I have root and updated busybox from the "Problems" button in the app. Many people on here have said to go to "Troubleshooting settings" and change the "App processing mode" but when I go there that option is greyed out. I'm sure this would work (it has for others it seems), but I don;t know what to do since it is greyed out.
I thought about reinstalling Titanium Backup, but I don't want to lose my data to restore from. I don't know how that works.
Anyone know what to do?
UPDATE: Well I don't think reinstalling would help, since an update just came through the market. I figure an update would've fixed anything that a reinstall would have. Also, to add a little more information on the problem, I was able to restore "Adobe Reader 9.0.1" but not able to restore "Footprints 1.10" (another HTC built-in app)
I have the same problem on my HTC Desire.
After installing the latest CyanogenMod, I wanted to return a couple of the HTC-supplied apps. Titanium Backup gets superuser permissions and seems happy, but then freezes at 0% restore. The application processing option in preferences is always greyed out.
Hi guys, one thing that I learned while migrating to Cyanogenmod is that restoring HTC apps will really hurt stability and possibly lead to bootlooping, as there is no HTC sense framework for their apps to work correctly. AFAIK, there is no way around that. I learned the hard way that restoring all apps and data just will not work between AOSP roms and Sense roms. I'm sorry I can't offer more help on it, but you'll need to pick and choose your apps and data and make sure you don't bring Sense/HTC stuff into Cyanogenmod. I know, it's frustrating! Good luck guys!
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We'll my problem is slightly different because I'm still using sense. I didn't load any new roms. I removed it and then tried to restore the next day without making any other changes. So why won't my apps restore?
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what did you remove? was it a system app or something you installed from the market? system apps, when "removed" even when backed up, don't reinstall from my experience. I never had any problem reinstalling any user apps that were properly backed up though.
I'm wondering if this is something to do with HTC's "S on" extra security.
Need to read up on this — anyone have a good resource about it? It seems a bit more obscure than just rooting, with some unreliable-looking websites about it. And I'm coming at this as a total n00b
But the system folder does indeed seem to have some kind of extra write-protection going on, even when accessing it as root.
I have a G2X and I have also learned the hard way that Titanium will not restore system apps. So the problem your having has nothing to do with Sence. If you search the for forums hard enough there is info on the topic
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So... If I do a factory reset on my phone then, will all be fixed? Or does uninstalling it remove it from wherever the factory reset would pull from?
I'll probably need to root it again after, but I just want that "Facebook for HTC Sense" app back so my contacts link with their facebook profiles for continually updating phone numbers, profile pictures, etc.
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I flashed Liberation Enhanced v1.00 yesterday and everything is fixed. Liberation does all that I wanted to do in the first place: have Sense without the bloatware. It was my first time flashing a new ROM and I'm happy to say it went very well
(Now once I get enough posts in, I can add it to my signature like everyone on here seems to like to do)
guess you fixed the issue, but dealing with Titanium Backup, i sometimes have it hanging when i freeze/unfreeze or sometimes it hangs/freezes when backing up/restoring. in the settings there's like some different restoration methods it lets you choose (Direct, Indirect, and something else), but switching it to Indirect Method fixed the issue for me, so just incase someone else runs into a similar problem. im on a SGS4G.
Liquid Smoke said:
guess you fixed the issue, but dealing with Titanium Backup, i sometimes have it hanging when i freeze/unfreeze or sometimes it hangs/freezes when backing up/restoring. in the settings there's like some different restoration methods it lets you choose (Direct, Indirect, and something else), but switching it to Indirect Method fixed the issue for me, so just incase someone else runs into a similar problem. im on a SGS4G.
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I think what you're talking about may be part of the "App processing mode" option that I said was greyed out for some reason on my phone.
It seems like every time I set up a new ROM, it takes me forever to get everything set back up and I always miss something, contacts are missing, apps go all wonky... I used to backup all my apps and data, but a lot of the time the new ROM will download many of the apps I had, so when I restore the backup of my Apps, it screws everything all up.
So I guess my questions is... Whats the most sufficient, easiest, most thorough way of restoring all apps and whatnot on a new ROM?
For the basics use the market app to backup your sms to google cant remember what its called, backup your contacts to google (highly recommend) that way you will never loose them.
For apps i would only ever backup downloaded apps with titanium backup pro. System apps can be a pain in the ass to restore.
Other than that everything else is fairly easy...
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Hmm... Ive never gone about backing up SYSTEM apps, but like paid apps, that Ive bought and backed up, seem to get all jacked when I restore or reinstall them. Ive tried a few different methods of restoring my system and never get it to go smoothly. Didnt know if there was an easier way. Thanks for the info!
You might want to upon first boot of the new ROM, bypass initial setup with the tap corners trick, restore apps with Titanium, then resume the setup process. Market will see your apps as already having been installed and not bugger everything up.
Good idea! Hadnt thought of that. Will try with my next rom. Thanks! Anymore tips out there?
First thing I thought of was nandroid backup using clockworkmod on a rooted device. I have restored my phone countless times and everything restores exactly how it was.
sometime i got errors while restoring with CWM..
Titanium is still the recommended.
When I first started out, I actually had to make a list and check it off. Eventually, I found some apps that would cover those items (Titanium, etc), but still even with that I have to manually go in and do a few settings. MIUI ROMS have a backup program (I used MIUI on my HD2) and it seemed to do a decent job.
I usually keep a current back up of all apps from market(not system apps) made from my backup pro. Everything else gets a fresh start.
When I switch android versions ei, from gingerbread to ics, nothing gets restored, everything is a fresh install from market.
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Was it through CWM rom manager or manual recovery mode? I mean did you install a kernel that installed cwm or did you install rom manager? After a couple weeks walking around blind I figured out that flashing the right kernel gets cwm to work without problems.
Restoring system settings is a big no no. It is just asking for trouble as with each update the source code is changed and then you are restoring outdated settings that may or may not be there.
TIBU is still the main app restore program. As for restoring settings that is never advices. Well unless you like troubleshooting random errors lol
Thanks for ALL the replies! Some stuff I hadnt thought of in here, and some stuff to try. If anyone else has any more info, please feel free to share. I have heard that restoring settings is asking for trouble, so luckily Im not too picky about those. I really only change the haptic feedback and stuff off the bat, anyway. It also sucks losing all my WiFi networks and having to have all my friends dig up their network passwords.
Anyway, gonna try out some of this stuff today as Im sick of the ROM I just flashed. Still waiting on MIUI getting that MMS workin
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Restoring system settings is a big no no. It is just asking for trouble as with each update the source code is changed and then you are restoring outdated settings that may or may not be there.
TIBU is still the main app restore program. As for restoring settings that is never advices. Well unless you like troubleshooting random errors lol
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I concur, system restores after updates, different roms etc are a nightmare lol. It might be a pain in the a$$ but i ALWAYS start afresh after each flash and never use the same data image lol
I've never used Titanium Backup before but I keep hearing that it's quite the amazing app. I was wondering what the best (safest) practice would be to use this if I'm going to be trying out new roms frequently.
Should I back up user apps or system or both? Or should I be even more selective? I'm just trying to be cautious because I don't want to back something up from one rom that would conflict with something from a different rom.
ginovva320 said:
I've never used Titanium Backup before but I keep hearing that it's quite the amazing app. I was wondering what the best (safest) practice would be to use this if I'm going to be trying out new roms frequently.
Should I back up user apps or system or both? Or should I be even more selective? I'm just trying to be cautious because I don't want to back something up from one rom that would conflict with something from a different rom.
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TB is an amazing app it makes flashing from rom to rom much easier bcuz you dont have to find and download all your apps over again...I use it after I flash each rom to restore my apps...also I seen where people run into conflict when restoring data so wat I do is just restore apps only each time after a fresh install of a rom....but diff get this app youll love it and it will save you countless time with your apps...
You only want to back up user apps, ad system apps can be modded or tweaked on custom roms. Also I have never had an issue restoring data to user apps.
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You only want to back up user apps, ad system apps can be modded or tweaked on custom roms. Also I have never had an issue restoring data to user apps.
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Some apps are a little weird when you restore data after a wipe. For example, FriendCaster Pro's contact sync breaks and push notifications are a little wonky if I restore data.
But yeah, issues with other apps are few and far between in my experience.
Edit: Oh and I have mine backing up to Google Drive (or Dropbox if you prefer) after every scheduled action as long as I'm on wifi and plugged in. This is just in case I do an sdcard wipe for some reason and forget to back it up manually.
Thanks for all your answers! This should make flashing roms a lot more streamlined.
Hey guys. I ve been using android since the dark ages of Donut and Gingerbread... But have never backed up so that I can restore from Google servers.
I ve been hearing stories about people getting all the apps back on the new phone, exactly like they were on the old one.
As I am changing phones a lot, especially S6, which I am.trying different colors of regular and edge, just wanted to ask how exactly do I do the backup and restore?
I mean, if I check Automatically backup to Google servers, How do I know when the backup is finished? How do I restore everything on the new phone? Will it backup my settings too? I dont need to backup pics or music, just the damned settings and app data, so that I dont have to setup manually each time.
You know what I mean, I am sure...
Thank you for the advice..