I don't know if there's a thread that already covered this. I searched the forum and only turned up one slightly similar topic. Anyway, I've got s-off on my M8, I've been flashing ROMs, and anytime I use anything Sense-based, all of the Verizon bloat redownloads upon reboot. Every time. Even after uninstalling, going into the play store, and removing the apps from my account, it all reinstalls after I shut the phone off and turn it back on again.
It's happened for me on:
Stock
cleanROM
Android Revolution
The only ROM that doesn't do this to me (that I've tried) is digitalhigh's GPE, which makes me think it has something to do with Sense/some kinda HTC sync/something I'm missing that isn't in GPE.
Take cleanROM for example. It doesn't have any bloat included, but upon setup my phone immediately began downloading those bloatware apps, which appeared again on my play store app list. I'm stumped.
Anybody have a similar experience/know the answer? The whole reason I went through the trouble of rooting, getting s-off, flashing a recovery, and flashing ROMs is to get rid of the bloatware, but if it just keeps redownloading no matter what, that defeats the purpose. I could stick with digitalhigh's GPE, which is a great ROM, but it's got a bit of lag, the camera is ****, and the carrier information is unknown, so I don't consider it stable enough to be my daily driver yet.
Thanks in advance!
I don't know the answer. I'd say initially it sounds like you have google set to auto install your apps, but that should only happen when you first initialize a new ROM. You can prevent that by unchecking the option during the phone setup. But you said you deleted the apps from your google account and this is happening by just a restart so...
What I would do in the meantime is install Titanium Backup and freeze all the apps you don't want. I wouldn't freeze/uninstall anything unless you are absolutely sure of what it does and everything it's associated with. Freezing should stop them from downloading and updating. They won't appear in your app drawer either.
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PS - don't freeze BlinkFeed. I made the mistake of thinking it was just the social integration app. It's actually the launcher.
Also, this is probably something that would be fixed by an internal wipe in recovery. You most likely have some latent folders that never got wiped. I would first try a full wipe with internal (not system!).
Just an idea, I really don't think it would work but you can try it out. Maybe if you'll use supercid the bloatware won't be download
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Just an idea, I really don't think it would work but you can try it out. Maybe if you'll use supercid the bloatware won't be download
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No related at all. That is for a device check while flashing. It is probably like the person above said, it is probably just restoring previously installed apps since most of that is on the play store.
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Turns out I had Google set to back up apps. Derp.
I could swear I didn't turn that on when I did initial setup. I usually don't miss something that obvious. Oh well. Problem solved.
Thanks for replying tho guys.
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(First off, this is my first post so my apologies if I've done anything improper here)
Ok, so there are a lot of posts about Titanium Backup restore issues but I haven't quite been able to fix my problem. I'm not trying batch restores or anything complicated like that, and the advice I've seen in the past and on the Titanium Backup FAQs doesn't work. Here's my problem:
Yesterday I backed up then uninstalled "Facebook for HTC Sense 1.0" but then realized that my phone (HTC Incredible) uses that to link my contacts with their Facebook profiles (for pictures, birthday notifications, etc.). So today I went to restore it and Titanium Backup just hangs (there is a spinning wheel on the left and it says "Restoring App: 'Facebook for HTC Sense 1.0'") It does this whether I try restoring just the app or app+data.
I have root and updated busybox from the "Problems" button in the app. Many people on here have said to go to "Troubleshooting settings" and change the "App processing mode" but when I go there that option is greyed out. I'm sure this would work (it has for others it seems), but I don;t know what to do since it is greyed out.
I thought about reinstalling Titanium Backup, but I don't want to lose my data to restore from. I don't know how that works.
Anyone know what to do?
UPDATE: Well I don't think reinstalling would help, since an update just came through the market. I figure an update would've fixed anything that a reinstall would have. Also, to add a little more information on the problem, I was able to restore "Adobe Reader 9.0.1" but not able to restore "Footprints 1.10" (another HTC built-in app)
I have the same problem on my HTC Desire.
After installing the latest CyanogenMod, I wanted to return a couple of the HTC-supplied apps. Titanium Backup gets superuser permissions and seems happy, but then freezes at 0% restore. The application processing option in preferences is always greyed out.
Hi guys, one thing that I learned while migrating to Cyanogenmod is that restoring HTC apps will really hurt stability and possibly lead to bootlooping, as there is no HTC sense framework for their apps to work correctly. AFAIK, there is no way around that. I learned the hard way that restoring all apps and data just will not work between AOSP roms and Sense roms. I'm sorry I can't offer more help on it, but you'll need to pick and choose your apps and data and make sure you don't bring Sense/HTC stuff into Cyanogenmod. I know, it's frustrating! Good luck guys!
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We'll my problem is slightly different because I'm still using sense. I didn't load any new roms. I removed it and then tried to restore the next day without making any other changes. So why won't my apps restore?
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what did you remove? was it a system app or something you installed from the market? system apps, when "removed" even when backed up, don't reinstall from my experience. I never had any problem reinstalling any user apps that were properly backed up though.
I'm wondering if this is something to do with HTC's "S on" extra security.
Need to read up on this — anyone have a good resource about it? It seems a bit more obscure than just rooting, with some unreliable-looking websites about it. And I'm coming at this as a total n00b
But the system folder does indeed seem to have some kind of extra write-protection going on, even when accessing it as root.
I have a G2X and I have also learned the hard way that Titanium will not restore system apps. So the problem your having has nothing to do with Sence. If you search the for forums hard enough there is info on the topic
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So... If I do a factory reset on my phone then, will all be fixed? Or does uninstalling it remove it from wherever the factory reset would pull from?
I'll probably need to root it again after, but I just want that "Facebook for HTC Sense" app back so my contacts link with their facebook profiles for continually updating phone numbers, profile pictures, etc.
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Problem Solved
I flashed Liberation Enhanced v1.00 yesterday and everything is fixed. Liberation does all that I wanted to do in the first place: have Sense without the bloatware. It was my first time flashing a new ROM and I'm happy to say it went very well
(Now once I get enough posts in, I can add it to my signature like everyone on here seems to like to do)
guess you fixed the issue, but dealing with Titanium Backup, i sometimes have it hanging when i freeze/unfreeze or sometimes it hangs/freezes when backing up/restoring. in the settings there's like some different restoration methods it lets you choose (Direct, Indirect, and something else), but switching it to Indirect Method fixed the issue for me, so just incase someone else runs into a similar problem. im on a SGS4G.
Liquid Smoke said:
guess you fixed the issue, but dealing with Titanium Backup, i sometimes have it hanging when i freeze/unfreeze or sometimes it hangs/freezes when backing up/restoring. in the settings there's like some different restoration methods it lets you choose (Direct, Indirect, and something else), but switching it to Indirect Method fixed the issue for me, so just incase someone else runs into a similar problem. im on a SGS4G.
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I think what you're talking about may be part of the "App processing mode" option that I said was greyed out for some reason on my phone.
I was just wondering, why if you delete certain stock apps (Or Bloatware for that matter), they cause FCs or instability in general? Are they tied into the OS somehow?
If somebody can explain this, (In layman
s terms, I'm still learning things about Android) I'd be very thankful.
Bloatware can be removed when you root your device through the explorer. But you can download custom roms with an unlocked bootloader which usually have no bloatware those are two ways of getting rid of the carrier crap. Your choice.
It's also dependent on your device & what type of rom you're running. There should be a list of safe to remove apps for your device/rom.
If you're iffy of something, try freezing it first with Titanium Backup. If all goes well then you can uninstall it.
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Thanks for your quick reply, but what I meant was why is it that if you delete a stock apps (Like DriveSmart from Samsung)
HC13 said:
well if u delete driver smart. every time you go to settings and select driver smart you will get a force close... also with wifi calling. and startup setup.
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it messes with the system.
EDIT: Figured it was worth mentioning that I don't own an Android device yet (But it'll either be the Epic 4G or the Sidekick 4G [I lurk in the latter's forum]), so I'm trying soak up as much info as I can receive.
So when I get either device [Even though hands on experience always trumps reading things off forums] I won't waste time figuring things out.
EDIT #2: And thanks plainjane, missed your post somehow.
It seems like every time I set up a new ROM, it takes me forever to get everything set back up and I always miss something, contacts are missing, apps go all wonky... I used to backup all my apps and data, but a lot of the time the new ROM will download many of the apps I had, so when I restore the backup of my Apps, it screws everything all up.
So I guess my questions is... Whats the most sufficient, easiest, most thorough way of restoring all apps and whatnot on a new ROM?
For the basics use the market app to backup your sms to google cant remember what its called, backup your contacts to google (highly recommend) that way you will never loose them.
For apps i would only ever backup downloaded apps with titanium backup pro. System apps can be a pain in the ass to restore.
Other than that everything else is fairly easy...
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Hmm... Ive never gone about backing up SYSTEM apps, but like paid apps, that Ive bought and backed up, seem to get all jacked when I restore or reinstall them. Ive tried a few different methods of restoring my system and never get it to go smoothly. Didnt know if there was an easier way. Thanks for the info!
You might want to upon first boot of the new ROM, bypass initial setup with the tap corners trick, restore apps with Titanium, then resume the setup process. Market will see your apps as already having been installed and not bugger everything up.
Good idea! Hadnt thought of that. Will try with my next rom. Thanks! Anymore tips out there?
First thing I thought of was nandroid backup using clockworkmod on a rooted device. I have restored my phone countless times and everything restores exactly how it was.
sometime i got errors while restoring with CWM..
Titanium is still the recommended.
When I first started out, I actually had to make a list and check it off. Eventually, I found some apps that would cover those items (Titanium, etc), but still even with that I have to manually go in and do a few settings. MIUI ROMS have a backup program (I used MIUI on my HD2) and it seemed to do a decent job.
I usually keep a current back up of all apps from market(not system apps) made from my backup pro. Everything else gets a fresh start.
When I switch android versions ei, from gingerbread to ics, nothing gets restored, everything is a fresh install from market.
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Was it through CWM rom manager or manual recovery mode? I mean did you install a kernel that installed cwm or did you install rom manager? After a couple weeks walking around blind I figured out that flashing the right kernel gets cwm to work without problems.
Restoring system settings is a big no no. It is just asking for trouble as with each update the source code is changed and then you are restoring outdated settings that may or may not be there.
TIBU is still the main app restore program. As for restoring settings that is never advices. Well unless you like troubleshooting random errors lol
Thanks for ALL the replies! Some stuff I hadnt thought of in here, and some stuff to try. If anyone else has any more info, please feel free to share. I have heard that restoring settings is asking for trouble, so luckily Im not too picky about those. I really only change the haptic feedback and stuff off the bat, anyway. It also sucks losing all my WiFi networks and having to have all my friends dig up their network passwords.
Anyway, gonna try out some of this stuff today as Im sick of the ROM I just flashed. Still waiting on MIUI getting that MMS workin
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Restoring system settings is a big no no. It is just asking for trouble as with each update the source code is changed and then you are restoring outdated settings that may or may not be there.
TIBU is still the main app restore program. As for restoring settings that is never advices. Well unless you like troubleshooting random errors lol
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I concur, system restores after updates, different roms etc are a nightmare lol. It might be a pain in the a$$ but i ALWAYS start afresh after each flash and never use the same data image lol
This is gonna be long, so please bear with me.
New Android user here, since December and never looked back.
But I have a big problem that just started two days ago, and coincided with the installation of Vonage for Android.
My N7100 is rooted and I also installed a new kernel (Perseus), but kept the stock ROM for the time being, but I'm getting closer to installing CyanogenMod ROM through ROManager Premium.
I just read the article posted here by Will Verduzco on Android security which led me to a bunch of articles on VOIP and it's scary.
My problem is that my N7100 will kind of do a half-baked reset without my doing anything... and then after watching the download light blinking on my router here in the house, Airport is downloading for about five minutes and then, BANG!!!, up comes the screen asking me for my language, and to set up a Google acct, Samsung acct, and I have to re-enter the passwords for my WiFi, etc, etc... you know the drill.
What's causing this?
I've been on XDA hundreds of times doing research on one thing or another, and I've removed all the Google bloatware possible except for the few things that I want to keep, and I got that comprehensive list from the XDA site... but after my device gets done doing it's thing, everything is back with dozens of notifications... AND Titanium Backup, ROM Manager, Triangle Away, SuperSu, Root Explorer, ES File Explorer/Task manager, etc are all missing and no backups on the SD card. WHAT!!!
One more thing which might be peripheral to my problem.
A couple of days ago I installed the new OS for my Mac... 10.9.
With my prior OS, I uninstalled almost all of anything that said "Google" from my computer but have to go through it again and repeat.
This morning, I do a search for anything Google on my drive, and came up with files with executable update files that all had "Android/GT-N7100 in the path.
Yes, I did connect to Kies by USB just once to check things out there but I don't think that's the underlying problem. Maybe it is.
I've seen some REAL genius help on this site, and hope that somebody that has a grasp on my problem can help.
I joined this site a few minutes ago just to ask this question, by the way.
If I went off track as to the posting guidelines on the site, just tell me.
Hey, I'm pushing 70 and the mind wanders. Haha!
Thanks in advance, guys!
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This is gonna be long, so please bear with me.
New Android user here, since December and never looked back.
But I have a big problem that just started two days ago, and coincided with the installation of Vonage for Android.
My N7100 is rooted and I also installed a new kernel (Perseus), but kept the stock ROM for the time being, but I'm getting closer to installing CyanogenMod ROM through ROManager Premium.
I just read the article posted here by Will Verduzco on Android security which led me to a bunch of articles on VOIP and it's scary.
My problem is that my N7100 will kind of do a half-baked reset without my doing anything... and then after watching the download light blinking on my router here in the house, Airport is downloading for about five minutes and then, BANG!!!, up comes the screen asking me for my language, and to set up a Google acct, Samsung acct, and I have to re-enter the passwords for my WiFi, etc, etc... you know the drill.
What's causing this?
I've been on XDA hundreds of times doing research on one thing or another, and I've removed all the Google bloatware possible except for the few things that I want to keep, and I got that comprehensive list from the XDA site... but after my device gets done doing it's thing, everything is back with dozens of notifications... AND Titanium Backup, ROM Manager, Triangle Away, SuperSu, Root Explorer, ES File Explorer/Task manager, etc are all missing and no backups on the SD card. WHAT!!!
One more thing which might be peripheral to my problem.
A couple of days ago I installed the new OS for my Mac... 10.9.
With my prior OS, I uninstalled almost all of anything that said "Google" from my computer but have to go through it again and repeat.
This morning, I do a search for anything Google on my drive, and came up with files with executable update files that all had "Android/GT-N7100 in the path.
Yes, I did connect to Kies by USB just once to check things out there but I don't think that's the underlying problem. Maybe it is.
I've seen some REAL genius help on this site, and hope that somebody that has a grasp on my problem can help.
I joined this site a few minutes ago just to ask this question, by the way.
If I went off track as to the posting guidelines on the site, just tell me.
Hey, I'm pushing 70 and the mind wanders. Haha!
Thanks in advance, guys!
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as for your note 2 problem, so your saying you flashed Cyangenmod on it correct? if so did you flash a the current gapps for whatever version you flashed? im thinking that's the problem, otherwise another flash of the cyangenmod ROM might fix it.
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as for your note 2 problem, so your saying you flashed Cyangenmod on it correct? if so did you flash a the current gapps for whatever version you flashed? im thinking that's the problem, otherwise another flash of the cyangenmod ROM might fix it.
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^^^
No, I haven't flashed CM yet, but as I said, I'm moving in that direction after looking a a bunch of ROMs.
This is gonna sound kind of dumb, but the reason that I'm holding on to the stock rooted ROM is just because of one active screen saver, and that's Windy Weather. Like when it's raining here, you get rain drops sliding down the inside of the glass. HA!
And believe it or not, I agonize over the small stuff... like whether or not I want to go with an AOSP or AOKP ROM.
Believe it or not, when I got done with massaging the stock ROM today, all of the junk that I had formerly removed through Titanium Backup were still gone even though it showed that it was all re-downloaded in the Notifications.
I just have a sneaking hunch that the Vonage VOIP App that I installed had "something" to do with my problem, so I have not reinstalled it, and I also destroyed all of the Play Store links with Titanium Backup and still no problem.
I'm still running the stock 4.1.2 stock ROM.
Even if I do go with CM, I'm a little worried that if I download Gapps, something in there just might want to gain control and zap my device again.
Anywhooo... for the last several hours, I'm not having any problems.
Thanks for your reply.
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^^^
No, I haven't flashed CM yet, but as I said, I'm moving in that direction after looking a a bunch of ROMs.
This is gonna sound kind of dumb, but the reason that I'm holding on to the stock rooted ROM is just because of one active screen saver, and that's Windy Weather. Like when it's raining here, you get rain drops sliding down the inside of the glass. HA!
And believe it or not, I agonize over the small stuff... like whether or not I want to go with an AOSP or AOKP ROM.
Believe it or not, when I got done with massaging the stock ROM today, all of the junk that I had formerly removed through Titanium Backup were still gone even though it showed that it was all re-downloaded in the Notifications.
I just have a sneaking hunch that the Vonage VOIP App that I installed had "something" to do with my problem, so I have not reinstalled it, and I also destroyed all of the Play Store links with Titanium Backup and still no problem.
I'm still running the stock 4.1.2 stock ROM.
Even if I do go with CM, I'm a little worried that if I download Gapps, something in there just might want to gain control and zap my device again.
Anywhooo... for the last several hours, I'm not having any problems.
Thanks for your reply.
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yeah anytime man thanks for explaining a little bit, well if you want to stay on stock like ROM i would recommend jedi mind trick, its pretty much stock but just removes the carrier bloatware and puts in a few custom goodies and should have your rain drop effect you want xD, i have been trying to find a link for you but i dont know what carrier you have, its a note 2 right? also, it rains in las vegas? lol come over to washington and see the difference.
So I've posted this before on XDA & never got a conclusive answer..
Almost 90% of the time I perform a clean wipe and restore of ROM, Google play will only restore about 50% of my downloaded apps, and the rest I have to manually install by hand in: playstore/my apps/all.
For a guy that has over 200 apps... This is extremely time consuming, extremely annoying and unexplainable...
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So I've posted this before on XDA & never got a conclusive answer..
Almost 90% of the time I perform a clean wipe and restore of ROM, Google play will only restore about 50% of my downloaded apps, and the rest I have to manually install by hand in: playstore/my apps/all.
For a guy that has over 200 apps... This is extremely time consuming, extremely annoying and unexplainable...
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make a backup and save to your p.c. regards
Why not use titanium backup? Much quicker and probably more reliable. ?
Because we shouldn't need to use 3rd party apps to restore our play store apps.
These are workarounds.. Not solutions to the existing problem
Titanium backup is guaranteed the most widely used app for backing up on XDA, among other users.
If you don't want to use it, that's definitely your choice. But I can't imagine sitting there waiting for 200 apps to download and install, when you can make a few clicks and have them back in about a minute and a half.
Also, we shouldn't need to do a lot of things with our devices, but we do. Especially tweaking it for better performance and/or battery life, and using apps to do a wide variety of things our phones can't do out of the box... Or the 3rd party apps just do them better.
But to each their own. Good luck! ?
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And I see why you may have trouble getting conclusive Answers here..... Perhaps a bit of appreciation for those that try to help would go a long way. ?
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Because we shouldn't need to use 3rd party apps to restore our play store apps.
These are workarounds.. Not solutions to the existing problem
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So you wind up reinstalling one by one. That's just being stubborn.
KJ said:
Titanium backup is guaranteed the most widely used app for backing up on XDA, among other users.
If you don't want to use it, that's definitely your choice. But I can't imagine sitting there waiting for 200 apps to download and install, when you can make a few clicks and have them back in about a minute and a half.
Also, we shouldn't need to do a lot of things with our devices, but we do. Especially tweaking it for better performance and/or battery life, and using apps to do a wide variety of things our phones can't do out of the box... Or the 3rd party apps just do them better.
But to each their own. Good luck! ?
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And I see why you may have trouble getting conclusive Answers here..... Perhaps a bit of appreciation for those that try to help would go a long way. ?
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Clearly you're not catching my drift buddy.
I've had several nexus devices, tried several ROMs, clean flashed many a time... I don't think there has ever been a time (maybe once) that GPlay correctly restored all my apps to my device, without having to restore many myself manually.
I didn't ask If there was a workaround, I got the same exact answers last time, instead of identifying and accepting the GPlay store issue.
Many people that are not rooted can't even use titanium backup to it's fullest ability.
Don't get me wrong I like titanium backup, EXCEPT for the fact that play store was trying to restore some of my apps at the same time as titanium backup, during phone startup. THIS would be a situation worth providing a workaround?
Play Store was designed and intended to BACKUP and RESTORE user apps. And it is NOT doing so. So there IS an issue here.
Is there something I'm doing wrong here?
Is this a widespread problem?
Is there a solution to fix play store restore issues?
In the meantime I'll use titanium backup to avoid the frustration with the play store, but again, google should fix this issue, and if they're are not aware of it they won't be working on it.
No one said there isn't an issue but its not going to be fixed by posting here. We can give you work arounds and nothing else.
Take it up with Google if you're not happy about it. This is NOT a Google forum so you shouldn't be so unappreciative when we give you workarounds because that's all we have. OK buddy?!
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No one said there isn't an issue but its not going to be fixed by posting here. We can give you work arounds and nothing else.
Take it up with Google if you're not happy about it. This is NOT a Google forum so you shouldn't be so unappreciative when we give you workarounds because that's all we have. OK buddy?!
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Exactly this ^^
The reason no one here can say much, other than let Google know... They won't know by you posting here, is I bet there are very, very few that use that feature. Why wait however long for 200 apps to download and install, when titanium backup does it in a couple minutes.
I completely understand what you are saying, we all do.... It's just no one cares to look into it, cause it's extremely inefficient. Maybe Google has a good peek at your data too when you back it up to their servers. Lol
As far as Google restoring at the same time as TB, easy... Disable Google backup.
Anyway... Not much else to say here. It's an issue with Google obviously. And they don't come to xda to find issues. ?
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Don't get me wrong I like titanium backup, EXCEPT for the fact that play store was trying to restore some of my apps at the same time as titanium backup, during phone startup. THIS would be a situation worth providing a workaround?
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You seem to like making things tough for yourself. Let the Play Store reinstall the apps that it will then use the Restore Missing Apps function in TiBu.