So I've posted this before on XDA & never got a conclusive answer..
Almost 90% of the time I perform a clean wipe and restore of ROM, Google play will only restore about 50% of my downloaded apps, and the rest I have to manually install by hand in: playstore/my apps/all.
For a guy that has over 200 apps... This is extremely time consuming, extremely annoying and unexplainable...
THE_KINGDOM said:
So I've posted this before on XDA & never got a conclusive answer..
Almost 90% of the time I perform a clean wipe and restore of ROM, Google play will only restore about 50% of my downloaded apps, and the rest I have to manually install by hand in: playstore/my apps/all.
For a guy that has over 200 apps... This is extremely time consuming, extremely annoying and unexplainable...
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make a backup and save to your p.c. regards
Why not use titanium backup? Much quicker and probably more reliable. ?
Because we shouldn't need to use 3rd party apps to restore our play store apps.
These are workarounds.. Not solutions to the existing problem
Titanium backup is guaranteed the most widely used app for backing up on XDA, among other users.
If you don't want to use it, that's definitely your choice. But I can't imagine sitting there waiting for 200 apps to download and install, when you can make a few clicks and have them back in about a minute and a half.
Also, we shouldn't need to do a lot of things with our devices, but we do. Especially tweaking it for better performance and/or battery life, and using apps to do a wide variety of things our phones can't do out of the box... Or the 3rd party apps just do them better.
But to each their own. Good luck! ?
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And I see why you may have trouble getting conclusive Answers here..... Perhaps a bit of appreciation for those that try to help would go a long way. ?
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Because we shouldn't need to use 3rd party apps to restore our play store apps.
These are workarounds.. Not solutions to the existing problem
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So you wind up reinstalling one by one. That's just being stubborn.
KJ said:
Titanium backup is guaranteed the most widely used app for backing up on XDA, among other users.
If you don't want to use it, that's definitely your choice. But I can't imagine sitting there waiting for 200 apps to download and install, when you can make a few clicks and have them back in about a minute and a half.
Also, we shouldn't need to do a lot of things with our devices, but we do. Especially tweaking it for better performance and/or battery life, and using apps to do a wide variety of things our phones can't do out of the box... Or the 3rd party apps just do them better.
But to each their own. Good luck! ?
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And I see why you may have trouble getting conclusive Answers here..... Perhaps a bit of appreciation for those that try to help would go a long way. ?
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Clearly you're not catching my drift buddy.
I've had several nexus devices, tried several ROMs, clean flashed many a time... I don't think there has ever been a time (maybe once) that GPlay correctly restored all my apps to my device, without having to restore many myself manually.
I didn't ask If there was a workaround, I got the same exact answers last time, instead of identifying and accepting the GPlay store issue.
Many people that are not rooted can't even use titanium backup to it's fullest ability.
Don't get me wrong I like titanium backup, EXCEPT for the fact that play store was trying to restore some of my apps at the same time as titanium backup, during phone startup. THIS would be a situation worth providing a workaround?
Play Store was designed and intended to BACKUP and RESTORE user apps. And it is NOT doing so. So there IS an issue here.
Is there something I'm doing wrong here?
Is this a widespread problem?
Is there a solution to fix play store restore issues?
In the meantime I'll use titanium backup to avoid the frustration with the play store, but again, google should fix this issue, and if they're are not aware of it they won't be working on it.
No one said there isn't an issue but its not going to be fixed by posting here. We can give you work arounds and nothing else.
Take it up with Google if you're not happy about it. This is NOT a Google forum so you shouldn't be so unappreciative when we give you workarounds because that's all we have. OK buddy?!
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rootSU said:
No one said there isn't an issue but its not going to be fixed by posting here. We can give you work arounds and nothing else.
Take it up with Google if you're not happy about it. This is NOT a Google forum so you shouldn't be so unappreciative when we give you workarounds because that's all we have. OK buddy?!
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Exactly this ^^
The reason no one here can say much, other than let Google know... They won't know by you posting here, is I bet there are very, very few that use that feature. Why wait however long for 200 apps to download and install, when titanium backup does it in a couple minutes.
I completely understand what you are saying, we all do.... It's just no one cares to look into it, cause it's extremely inefficient. Maybe Google has a good peek at your data too when you back it up to their servers. Lol
As far as Google restoring at the same time as TB, easy... Disable Google backup.
Anyway... Not much else to say here. It's an issue with Google obviously. And they don't come to xda to find issues. ?
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Don't get me wrong I like titanium backup, EXCEPT for the fact that play store was trying to restore some of my apps at the same time as titanium backup, during phone startup. THIS would be a situation worth providing a workaround?
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You seem to like making things tough for yourself. Let the Play Store reinstall the apps that it will then use the Restore Missing Apps function in TiBu.
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Guys.. I may have found a MARKET FIX
I hold no responsibility for anyone having issues after doing this, or while trying it. As always, Nandroid backup before changing/modding important files. I followed this video, step for step in real time as he did it. On my CM6.1 b2 running G-Tablet and followed his instructions. After rebooting and opening market mine went back into the accept terms for a second, but then went right to market. (Make sure Wifi is on and connected) And now things that weren't showing up before are all now. Dropbox, titanium backup, Kindle, Tweetdeck and other things I was searching for when i realized we didn't have a full market. This is nothing hard. No changing Android ID's or anything technical like most fixes. It's all done on the tablet. Watch the video. And try it if you feel comfortable. I know this worked for some on zpad clean rom's, and not for others. You must clear the cache.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l-nySibzeA&feature=related
Still not completely full market but way more than before. Most of the normal things are showing up now. Almost double the results now in the Android Market. Excellent!
Good Luck Guys! This fix was originally for the Winstech tablet, but it has also been said to work for Archos Tablets and almost any Android Device that's struggling with full Market.
This may also help some users.
KorbenD
I finally got this working by ending the tasks and then clearing the data for Google Framework by using Titanium Backup. Any of the other data/cache management tools should work too.
The quick test to see if it's working is to try running Market after clearing data. If you get an error, then it should be done. Reboot. Be sure you have a connection before running Market again.
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and another person mentioned this regarding my possible fix in the Large thread that is now closed.
After I updated apps via Titanium my Market Download list started to populate.
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Clear data through Titanium CONFIRMATION!
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This may also help some users.
and another person mentioned this regarding my possible fix in the Large thread that is now closed.
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That's awesome! Thanks a lot! I was going to try it in CM6.1, backup Titanium and restore. But, I was able to just do this in Titanium, running ZPad Clean .3
My Downloads appeared as well. Also was able to download and install purchased apps.
UPDATE: I tried backing up the Google Service Framework and Market after doing the hack via Titanium. I reloaded builds and GApps and did a data only restore(only option it gives) via Titanium thereafter. The market came up as expected.
Beat you to it by a few hours:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845175
I put it in the Apps section as it seems a good place for it. All references were documented, however!
thanks for the shout.. Well. We'll just leave it here anyways.
Titanium Backup definately works!
And a big Thank you to everyone who figured it out! My Gtab is now officially awesome.
Hello, I am hoping y'all can tell me if my phone is just bad hardware, or if this is normal. Since installing the update, I've had to factory reset my phone 4 times so far after something triggers hotboots. Every time I try to ID an app or it is involves the SD card, it turns out to not be related when installing the next time after a reset.
Today I installed all of my paid apps from the Google Market, many of my Amazon apps, and then moved everything to SD card without issue. After downloading so many apps, I'd use App2SD Pro to move them over in batches, and log the apps being moved or installed and if they triggered hotboots.
I then started grabbing the free apps that I could remember using from the Market, reboot, and still fine. When I felt I was nearly done and "safe", I decided to move the last 6 apps that could be moved over to my SD card. Upon rebooting, hotboots began. Uninstalling anything that even looks like it loads into memory automatically, plus those 6 apps, has not helped.
I am wondering if I am tripping some counter when I near/exceed 200 apps and that is triggering hotboots until I factory reset. Currently trying to uninstall more apps between hotboots in the hopes that will help. I am suspecting it is Gingerbread, as I did see this on a leaked build, and not on Froyo.
Those last 6 apps were nothing system related. Just NASA, Inotia 3, Kayak, Medieval Empires, Defender, and Elixir 2. Earlier it tripped after installing Android Assistant and Android System Info. Before that it tripped when I added the Amazon shopping, Student, MP3, and Pricewatch apps.
Why so many apps? Just testing some out to see what I like and don't like.
So, is my phone hosed or salvageable? The hardware has been great so far, just software issues under Froyo and I suspect the same with Gingerbread.
And is anyone else able to repeat this issue on their phone?
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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Thank you Lufc, I totally spaced when I posted it in the wrong area.
Troubleshooting further (by selectively adding the 50 free apps I own from Amazon), the hotboots do indeed seem to be related to having around 200 apps installed.
Could anyone else please test this theory out and confirm/refute them from your experience?
Haha, I can't even think of having that many apps. what's the point of you installing that many? Do you actually use all of them?
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Nah, I really don't use most of them. I just want to see what is out there and test stuff out. Since uninstalling quite a few, I've been stable. Shame I have to uninstall anything when I still have plenty of storage and ram.
I'm having similar problems. Have around 200 apps I like. Not everyday, but occassional. In trying to build an EP4D system using stock or Infinity everything goes bad each time I exceed some fairly large number of app installs. The system is then too unstable to fix and I end up rebuilding.....
I have 195 apps on top of stock ep4d deodexed/debloated that I use a fair bit. I have been totally stable. I should admit that I froze a bunch of stock BS though.
Your hardware is probably fine. You could try stability test from the Market to see if you're hardware seems stable. I personally haven't had any problems with app-whoring so far.
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It's hard to get a total number of apps, but counting the bloatware and the number of icons under apps gives me a good approximation. I've been trying and testing, and each time the phone is perfectly fine and stable up until around the 200 mark. Odd that I see this under Gingerbread, but never under Froyo. I wonder if Gingerbread has some little known bug that we are hitting when run on our hardware.
I bet you something is borked that that is unrelated to actual number of apps.
What I would do is:
Install Titanium Backup.
Backup the apps you want. Don't backup stuff like that's included in your ROM of choice like Gmail since you can update that via Market. Just backup the stuff you know is not already installed and that you will want.
One thing that auto-updates no matter what I seem to do on stock/deoxed EP4D is Google books.
When you get all your backups then go ahead and nuke your phone. I suggest using CWM 4.0.1.4 to create a backup image in case you need to restore without having to set up your system.
Install whatever ROM/kernel/etc. you want.
Get Root.
Install Titanium Backup.
After everthing is booted, I usually let the Market update and let the couple few apps that the Market wants to update download.
When you are ready, run a Batch operation with Titanium Backup to restore all your apps. Its your choice whether you want to restore data as well.
Generally, I restore app + data because few of my apps have trouble restoring the data.
Run all your apps to make sure they work. Clear data on apps that don't work.
I suggest clearing data on the Market after you get all your apps working.
Freeze the crap that you don't want running.
See what happens.
I kid you not, I have no nearly 0 problems restoring over 190 apps with a batch operation.
Earlier today my phone, after 2.5 hours of heavy use, started turning itself off within minutes of being booted. Swapped battery, cleared cache, played with wifi settings and 4g, nothing worked. Reset the phone and all is well. Decided to only load apps I actually use, and will follow the steps in the post above later tonight.
xdadevnube said:
I bet you something is borked that that is unrelated to actual number of apps.
What I would do is:
Install Titanium Backup.....
I kid you not, I have no nearly 0 problems restoring over 190 apps with a batch operation.
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Not sure if it's related to number of apps or size of installed apps, but this is a real thing on EP4D. i'm having it happen on Stock, Debloated and Infinity. It occurs at just over 200 apps. Phone works great until one too many batch restores of 5-6 apps and then it will start hotbooting and become uncontrollable. Only thing to do is reinstall. Done it about 5 times now.
In order to get to 200 or so apps (at least the 200 I want), I always end up having to do some Apps2SD movements for Plants vs. Zombies, etc. I actually think the problem is related to that because I installed around 175, dropped all games (which is all I will move to SD) and then batch restored another couple of dozen and it appeared stable for as long as I left it.
Gonna go back, install debloated from scratch and install only what I gotta have. Just tired of messing with it.
I rooted and restored only the bare minimum of what I use, plus a few games. I just don't want to mess with it anymore. I did use Tom's guide to pull off some bloatware (backed up first) and will just leave the phone alone for now. I lose too many hours tweaking every damn program each time, logging in and tweaking settings lost its fun the 5th time I restored.
Applications now listed exactly 100 apps, and I don't want to fight with it anymore. At least not for now.
Kimmie, who thought I had broke it when I rooted last night and did not have data. Glad to see Verizon had a 12 hour or so outage then, and that my phone is fine.
I'm now at about 198 or 199 apps that I installed on EP4D deodexed/deloated using batch (app+data) on Titanium Backup and it works perfect.
Yikes, I wonder if a few more apps is going to put me over the edge.
In this case, I'm thinking you should get some logcats and see if anyone can give you any hints- unfortunately, I don't have much experience with reading logcats, but its worth a shot.
Again, don't know if it's exact number or some combo with how much has been moved to SD. Here's an AppBrain list of what I currently have working. I didn't look so I hope there's nothing TOO embarrassing in there .
I also own an Asus Transformer and here's the AppBrain list of what is on that machine. Obviously I'm basically just trying to make the two match up so I can do whatever I want regardless of which device I have with me.
Somewhere between the two lists is where I start getting the hot loops right after the machine gets to the desktop on a powerup.
For me it is the total number of apps, and not related to moving to SD. I tested this with smaller file size apps as our internal rom is gimped at barely over 1gb. I have Amazon's free app of the day to thank for a wide selection of apps to test.
Think it could be related to our CPU?
I don't know if there's a thread that already covered this. I searched the forum and only turned up one slightly similar topic. Anyway, I've got s-off on my M8, I've been flashing ROMs, and anytime I use anything Sense-based, all of the Verizon bloat redownloads upon reboot. Every time. Even after uninstalling, going into the play store, and removing the apps from my account, it all reinstalls after I shut the phone off and turn it back on again.
It's happened for me on:
Stock
cleanROM
Android Revolution
The only ROM that doesn't do this to me (that I've tried) is digitalhigh's GPE, which makes me think it has something to do with Sense/some kinda HTC sync/something I'm missing that isn't in GPE.
Take cleanROM for example. It doesn't have any bloat included, but upon setup my phone immediately began downloading those bloatware apps, which appeared again on my play store app list. I'm stumped.
Anybody have a similar experience/know the answer? The whole reason I went through the trouble of rooting, getting s-off, flashing a recovery, and flashing ROMs is to get rid of the bloatware, but if it just keeps redownloading no matter what, that defeats the purpose. I could stick with digitalhigh's GPE, which is a great ROM, but it's got a bit of lag, the camera is ****, and the carrier information is unknown, so I don't consider it stable enough to be my daily driver yet.
Thanks in advance!
I don't know the answer. I'd say initially it sounds like you have google set to auto install your apps, but that should only happen when you first initialize a new ROM. You can prevent that by unchecking the option during the phone setup. But you said you deleted the apps from your google account and this is happening by just a restart so...
What I would do in the meantime is install Titanium Backup and freeze all the apps you don't want. I wouldn't freeze/uninstall anything unless you are absolutely sure of what it does and everything it's associated with. Freezing should stop them from downloading and updating. They won't appear in your app drawer either.
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PS - don't freeze BlinkFeed. I made the mistake of thinking it was just the social integration app. It's actually the launcher.
Also, this is probably something that would be fixed by an internal wipe in recovery. You most likely have some latent folders that never got wiped. I would first try a full wipe with internal (not system!).
Just an idea, I really don't think it would work but you can try it out. Maybe if you'll use supercid the bloatware won't be download
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Just an idea, I really don't think it would work but you can try it out. Maybe if you'll use supercid the bloatware won't be download
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No related at all. That is for a device check while flashing. It is probably like the person above said, it is probably just restoring previously installed apps since most of that is on the play store.
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Turns out I had Google set to back up apps. Derp.
I could swear I didn't turn that on when I did initial setup. I usually don't miss something that obvious. Oh well. Problem solved.
Thanks for replying tho guys.
I have just bought a xperia z3 and I noticed that when I started the phone for the first time, the battery lasted for a good long time without having to recharge it.
But in a few days, it lasted noticeably less and I found out that it's because of the massive amount of Sony & Google bloatware working in the background although I never use them and I have no interest in or need of using them.
So,
May someone list all the Z3's Bloatware, their functions (description) and usefulness and which are RESTRICTED to be stopped or deleted?
http://bit.ly/1GpfzIY
Thanks
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Thanks, but I don't get it.
it opened a google search page with a search statement, that's it
I have already done that before, but everyone lists the app list without the description.
I don't want to delete an app without knowing what it's for,
So, what I am really looking for is the description of Z3's Bloatware, not just listing them.
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Thanks, but I don't get it.
it opened a google search page with a search statement, that's it
I have already done that before, but everyone lists the app list without the description.
I don't want to delete an app without knowing what it's for,
So, what I am really looking for is the description of Z3's Bloatware, not just listing them.
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OK, most of the package names are self explanatory. But you can have a look inside them for further details.
Also, if you use Titanium you can freeze the apps (Instead of uninstalling) and then if you have issues with things not working you can unfreeze them without having to do a full restore via recovery. However, it is advisable to have a recent backup in recovery in case you end up in bootloops after freezing something important
Thanks
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OK, most of the package names are self explanatory. But you can have a look inside them for further details.
Also, if you use Titanium you can freeze the apps (Instead of uninstalling) and then if you have issues with things not working you can unfreeze them without having to do a full restore via recovery. However, it is advisable to have a recent backup in recovery in case you end up in bootloops after freezing something important
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well, not a bad advice but still not the one I am looking for.
Trial and Error method is too risky, plus, some app I may disable I will still not know what they were doing.
most of package names don't explain nothing to me, may be to someone else but not me.
Hi all. I have bought FPse, currently on my new XZ2 (which I'm loving so far). I had a Play Store voucher so have some remaining credit, which I'll use to source some apps. My question is before I get involved in unlocking the bootloader, rooting etc., can I back up the apps so that I can then transfer them to my device once I have installed LineageOS or the Sony supported AOSP? I like the idea of Android, not so much Google. I don't have an SD card yet to use in this, but will be getting one in the near future (most likely around 200GB) but think I have a spare one laying around I could use in the short term for this.
The device is new and apart from a few apps and contacts, I have no data on the phone really yet so would like to get this done fairly soon before I get a lot of stuff on there.
Thanks in advance for any help with this.
Most backup apps should work. Titanium backup is one of (not the) best. There are plenty of tutorials for it
I have read about Titanium backup but my understanding is it needs root to worry properly. While the aim of this is ultimately a new room and root, I'll probably end up using Xperifix to get there, so I won't be able to backup the apps properly. I'll read some more about TB though first. Thanks for your response.
Also I'd like to apologise for putting this question in here, I only realise afterwards that Android General isn't meant for questions.
Edit: having now read more about TB, it looks like they have added this functionality which is great news. I'll give that a try in the near future, thanks again.