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[Q] Has it been long enough?

With all the haters of either TMO or G2X I wanted to start another kind of thread to ask the question of. Has it been long enough to for TMO to refresh their G2X's so I can walk into a store or amazon and get my G2X back. I loved the crap out of that phone and the only issue had was the bleed screen. How can one tell when was the manufacturing date?

I doubt it.
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jsauce75 said:
i doubt it.
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blast it all!!!

Manufacture date is on the sticker on the box.
also no, I dont think so if screen bleed is your issue. I just got one yesterday, it has a little bleed (screen bleed was never a issue for me, I dont care). It has a 4/24 date on the sticker... So Id say wait a while longer...
as far as reboots. Ive never had one. I personally think its a app the cpu dont like or something. And look at almost any other phone forum. Theres always complaints about reboots. so meh..

smashpunks said:
Manufacture date is on the sticker on the box.
also no, I dont think so if screen bleed is your issue. I just got one yesterday, it has a little bleed (screen bleed was never a issue for me, I dont care). It has a 4/24 date on the sticker... So Id say wait a while longer...
as far as reboots. Ive never had one. I personally think its a app the cpu dont like or something. And look at almost any other phone forum. Theres always complaints about reboots. so meh..
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Is the sticker on the outside of the box so if I were to call TMO up and say whats the manufacturing date of your g2x's the rep could tell me?

wondercoolguy said:
Is the sticker on the outside of the box so if I were to call TMO up and say whats the manufacturing date of your g2x's the rep could tell me?
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yes its a big sticker on the back with the date right at the bottom of it..

smashpunks said:
yes its a big sticker on the back with the date right at the bottom of it..
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Thank you for the info!

smashpunks said:
as far as reboots. Ive never had one. I personally think its a app the cpu dont like or something. And look at almost any other phone forum. Theres always complaints about reboots. so meh..
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I can assure you that the reboot/lockup issue is real and not due to a specific app. I was getting these before I installed a single thing. In fact, the reboot issue has been confirmed by LG themselves, so I wouldn't dismiss it so quickly.
The screen bleed, on the other hand, I fully agree. My unit has screen bleed, but it's really not a big deal. I never see it during regular usage (and it's worse than many others I've seen on here).

I am having screen bleed in two corners, but honestly it doesn't bother me. nearly a week since I bought this phone, not even one reboot.this phone is rock solid and super fast.
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My 14 days are up tomorrow... and I'm keeping my G2x.
I have light bleed on the top two corners and a little along the right side. It is noticeable but what the heck, nothing is perfect. I think coming from a Nexus One with it's inky blacks spoiled me a little, though I must say I would not put up with this level of bleed (clouding as it's called) on a new TV.
The rest of my experience has been trouble free, no reboots or any other issues. Wifi calling works great, the phone is fast as hell and the feel in hand is rock solid. Give this phone a top tier screen and it's the best phone ever made fer sure.
Oh, and I've never had any problems with T-Mobile service, either in Denver on my WinMo Wing or in the Seattle area on a series of Android devices. I'm actually kind of a T-Mo fanboy.

I've got an RMA coming from Tmo customer service arriving either today or tomorrow for a screen bleeder.
I'm going to open it, pop in battery and sim and check out the bleed.
If it's only slightly or not better at all, I'm keeping my original.
Like others have said, I only see it in the dark with a black screen...not really a big deal in the whole scheme of things.
Other than that, the unit I currently have is working flawlessly...and battery life is superb for me.

Will I like the G2x?

Currently have a Nexus S and I just ordered a G2X, if someone has compared them both. What do you think? Is the G2X a upgrade to the Nexus S? I'm in a good place because I can always hand down whatever device I don't want to keep or return the G2X for the Sensation. What are your opinions on the G2X hardware wise? The G2X will probably be stock for like 5 min. as I plan on putting whatever rom is hot atm. Please help I'm torn between the two lol.
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There are lots of NS owners and they say the screen is brighter and more detailed.... and much much faster.
Coming from the Nexus line, it flashes and everything the same way. No using special software to flash or anything. Just root, download Rom Manager, and flash.
The Sensation has an encrypted locked bootloader so chances of it having custom roms is slim-to-none.
Plus Tegra 2 dual-core is faster. HDMI out is fun. You'll like it.

Yep.
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I come from the Galaxy S 4G and I really like this phone.
Nexus S and Galaxy S 4G were similar phones so my answer is no, you will not be dissapointed with the G2x.
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I was about to pick up a G2X recently. I talked to a person in the store returning their G2X which had horrid back light bleeding. I'm learning that this issue is inherent to this models screen to varying degrees depending on your luck. The screenshots I've seen being sent to LG support don't look good either. Whats the consensus here?

Castle5665 said:
I was about to pick up a G2X recently. I talked to a person in the store returning their G2X which had horrid back light bleeding. I'm learning that this issue is inherent to this models screen to varying degrees depending on your luck. The screenshots I've seen being sent to LG support don't look good either. Whats the consensus here?
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A bunch of nit picken cry babies. It is never noticeable. I watch movies in the dark. Still not bad.
But whatever.
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mr.orange303 said:
A bunch of nit picken cry babies. It is never noticeable. I watch movies in the dark. Still not bad.
But whatever.
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this is more how i feel as well...
while it is an issue, some phones are worse than others for sure... My phone has what I would consider average bleeding for an LCD screen, i have a bit of bleed in the upper left corner and a smaller bit on the lower left... at 100% brightness on total black they are both noticeable but not like rays of sun protruding out the sides... on 50% you can see them if you are looking for them and lowest brightness they are totally unnoticeable...
now, i watch movies at night all the time and i keep my brightness settings on automatic so when i watch my movies that have dark edges and such the brightness is typically very low thus the bleeding goes unnoticed... never have i needed to watch a movie with max brightness in the dark, the only time i would noticeably see the bleeding... if i do max brightness during the day while watching something then i still dont notice the bleeding cuz the natural daylight blends it out...
point being, there are very few scenarios where you will even come in contact with the bleeding if its not so bad that your whole screen is turning yellow, which i have seen lol
its all a matter of what you can tolerate in the end...

Yes. It's a great phone, even with the old software, and when the tasty gingerbread update drops it will be better.
mr.orange303 said:
A bunch of nit picken cry babies. It is never noticeable. I watch movies in the dark. Still not bad.
But whatever.
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Agreed, though I am on my 2nd G2x. No issues at all. Minimal bleed in the top left and right corners, but not really noticeable except on the splash screen, boot animation, and power-off animation. I had an EVO for almost a year, and it had the same issue. Never noticed it with normal usage, even rockin' a gingerbread rom w/ the black status bar.
My first looked like the screens in this thread: http://www.lgforum.com/forum/boards/carriers/t-mobile/topics/g2x-screen-separating-from-body
Clearly defective, so I sent it back and got a new one. Very satisfied now.

Thanks for the opinions of the backlight bleed guys. I'm just worried coming from a SAMOLED screen on the Vibrant, that I would be very disappointed. I'll give it more consideration.

Castle5665 said:
Thanks for the opinions of the backlight bleed guys. I'm just worried coming from a SAMOLED screen on the Vibrant, that I would be very disappointed. I'll give it more consideration.
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I came from an AMOLED on a Nexus 1 and while it was not a SAMOLED i still think i prefer the LCD over LED given the current tech... the pentile matrix of LED drove me nuts, everything looked grainy to me regardless of the vibrant colors and deep blacks... LCD looks sharper and more natural... I have great eyesight so I am nitpicky about quality and clarity on my screen

I came from the vibrant also and I wonder what everyone was on about. While I like the colors of the vibrant, the g2x still looks bea-utiful! Lcd screen bleed isnt so bad. specially with the lights on.
Unlike a ugly chick you dont have to turn out the lights to use it!

What exactly does screen bleeding effect

I just bought a g2x today. Didn't notice the screen bleed until I read about it. Just wondering what this does or the negative effect it has on my phone.
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Yeah. It makes people complain... Other than that I think it's just cosmetic...
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It just might be that my phone doesn't have screen bleeding as severe as other phones, but if I didn't read about it I probably wouldn't have noticed.

Yea that's what I'm thinking. I didn't hear about a single problem with the phone until I got it lol. Idk how bad mine is in relation to others but I don't want to exchange it and get one that's worse
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And is this something that can get progressively worse?
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Mine hasn't got any worse. I didn't notice til I read it on xda. I've had mine since release date and I love mine.
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No it does not affect usability at all. Some have posited that when Gingerbread gets released it will be more noticable on its dark notification bar. Some have also complained that their screen bleed has progressed to "bars" but I've only seen that a few times. I think virtually everyone will tell you it's a non issue.
That said, IMO, it is the lack of a real response that is indicative of the biggest issue of all.That being the lack of real support. People are getting them replaced, but that's it. I just want a phone that works. I have had a lot of issues. Getting a new one every two weeks is no fun. I'm in limbo now. I'm sick of re-entering everything....I really am. I just want a phone that works all the time with full functionality.Just get a new one is fine....but this is stupid.

ickster said:
No it does not affect usability at all. Some have posited that when Gingerbread gets released it will be more noticable on its dark notification bar. Some have also complained that their screen bleed has progressed to "bars" but I've only seen that a few times. I think virtually everyone will tell you it's a non issue.
That said, IMO, it is the lack of a real response that is indicative of the biggest issue of all.That being the lack of real support. People are getting them replaced, but that's it. I just want a phone that works. I have had a lot of issues. Getting a new one every two weeks is no fun. I'm in limbo now. I'm sick of re-entering everything....I really am. I just want a phone that works all the time with full functionality.Just get a new one is fine....but this is stupid.
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So am I lol. Not with G2x but other phones. I am just looking for one that works. I need an international phone. I want one with a ffc to video chat to home. I want to future proof my device and I am doing that with a ffc, 4g, and a dual core processor. Its not an issue for me but I dont want it to become one.

not a thing, just crazy people having to have something to complain about. it really isn't serious at all.

ickster said:
No it does not affect usability at all. Some have posited that when Gingerbread gets released it will be more noticable on its dark notification bar. Some have also complained that their screen bleed has progressed to "bars" but I've only seen that a few times. I think virtually everyone will tell you it's a non issue.
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Im using Cm7 right now and it has a black bar on top and I notice that the side with light bleed looks a little washed out compared to the rest of the bar. You notice it even if its not dark but probably not if the lights are really bright
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the colors on this thing look beautiful and I'm wondering if when gb comes with its black status bar will things start to look a little off.
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The effect is purely cosmetic and is a result of the sort of screen the G2x uses. Most phones use a LED screen, particularly AMOLED and Super AMOLED. The G2x uses an LCD screen, which is what most TVs use.
LCD screens are much, much brighter (my old AMOLED screen's optimum brightness in daylight was 100%, this one is 25%) and displays colors with much more vibrance, but it doesn't handle black very well. Turn on your television in a dark room to an empty channel (like DVD when the dvd player isn't on) and you'll see the same effect.
Personally, I don't mind. In fact, I prefer the LCD: the brightness and color is more than good enough to offset the bleed.
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I'm wondering if when gb comes with its black status bar will things start to look a little off.
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After using the leaked 2.3.3 update, I can tell you that it definitely does look odd, but only when you're in a pitch-black room.

That's what I was worried about. Are you going to keep it? I'm trying to debate if I will or not. I do not really want the sensation
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[Q] Screen Quality

I just got a G2X yesterday and it has backlight arterial flow. It's not obvious looking head on but it doesn't take much of an angle to see light peeking around the edges. I've heard this is a "known issue" but would anyone else return their phone for a replacement? How likely is it that I'll have the same problem with the next one? I've had the vibrant since release and I've gotten used to the contrast and color of the amoled screen but I don't think I'm just being spoiled. For $500 I feel light bleed should not be an issue. Black uniformity? Ehhhh not quite as much but still... Anyone care to comment?

wu_wei_lion said:
I just got a G2X yesterday and it has backlight arterial flow. It's not obvious looking head on but it doesn't take much of an angle to see light peeking around the edges. I've heard this is a "known issue" but would anyone else return their phone for a replacement? How likely is it that I'll have the same problem with the next one? I've had the vibrant since release and I've gotten used to the contrast and color of the amoled screen but I don't think I'm just being spoiled. For $500 I feel light bleed should not be an issue. Black uniformity? Ehhhh not quite as much but still... Anyone care to comment?
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It is very likely you would get another phone with same issue.
LG uses a screen texhnology that has that bleed.
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wu_wei_lion said:
I just got a G2X yesterday and it has backlight arterial flow. It's not obvious looking head on but it doesn't take much of an angle to see light peeking around the edges. I've heard this is a "known issue" but would anyone else return their phone for a replacement? How likely is it that I'll have the same problem with the next one? I've had the vibrant since release and I've gotten used to the contrast and color of the amoled screen but I don't think I'm just being spoiled. For $500 I feel light bleed should not be an issue. Black uniformity? Ehhhh not quite as much but still... Anyone care to comment?
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Youre new around these parts aren't ya? Lol
Its a very well know issue. Look around this forum and you'll find countless references to it. It comes down to what is acceptable for you? Some people have returned and exchanged multiple times to correct it. For me, its barely noticeable and only on a black screen in a dark room so it doesn't bother me.
Look around the forum and then judge for yourself if you can live with the problem.

I'll probably try a return and if it happens again, I'll just deal and think about an upgrade later on. Like I said I'm used to the samsung screens so this problem is all new to me. Overall the build of the phone feels sturdier than the vibrant. I also like that web browsing is much smoother.

I can deal with that. I don't want reboots and a over heating phone. The screen problems are minimal on my phone.
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KRAZYADROIDMASTER said:
I can deal with that. I don't want reboots and a over heating phone. The screen problems are minimal on my phone.
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Have you done a complete hard reset/restore of the phone? Factory data reset?
It significantly cooled down my phone after doing it. Never had a reboot on the phone afterwards, but prior to that I only had one reboot, so I don't think I had a problem
I had installed a bunch of task killer/ battery saver apps on the phone, and the combo screwed things up software wise.....have not touched any task killers since.

I try that when I get a my new memory card.
Thanks.
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If mininmal light bleed is your only problem just keep it. Most likely the replacement will also have it. Even with light bleed the screen looked better than the sensations...
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ATT first vs second shipment

After reading many build and quality issues with the 1.73 original shipment handsets, I was wondering if people with the factory 1.85 second shipment handsets are seeing the same issues.
Personally I have a second shipment 1.85 handset and it is very well built, great on battery, no dead pixels on any color, rarely gets hotter than warm, very minimal light bleed on lower right corner on all black screen, no corners lifting up and running like a superstar with clean Rom 3.0(ran outstanding on factory 1.85 also).
Only issue I am having is the phone seems to take longer to charge than my inspire or vivid with real HTC charger. I have tried more than one. Not so long that I think there is an issue, just longer than I have experienced in the past.
Please post your experiences with 1.73 vs 1.85 handsets and maybe we can figure out what has been fixed on the production line so far.
Personally I think they definitely tweaked it and fixed some early build issues.
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I had an original 1.73 and dropped it so I replaced it and got a 1.85 device. For me, they are both EXACTLY the same. Never had any issues on the first one.

I got a 1.85 One X about a week ago. Strangely, the box it arrived in was somewhat warm (for whatever reason), and the device was warm when I first took it out of the box, but I don't believe that's affected anything on the phone. Everything seems in good shape with this model; my only question is the light bleed you're referring to on the bottom right corner of the display. I think I have that too. When it's an all black display, or at least all black in the bottom right corner, it seems to be a little bit "brighter" in that area, so to speak. I also notice that the "stage light" arrangement for the backlit display on the bottom of the display (above the capacitive buttons) seems a little brighter in that bottom right corner. Sorry for the rambling, but is that what you're referring to?
On a side note, that "stage light" appearance of the backlights on the bottom of the display are supposed to be like that, according to an HTC Customer Representative. In case any of you were wondering lol.

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On a side note, that "stage light" appearance of the backlights on the bottom of the display are supposed to be like that, according to an HTC Customer Representative. In case any of you were wondering lol.
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4 of my HOXs had those "stage lights" as you call them, one didn't have them at all. The one that didn't have them had a really crappy screen that was all washed out and had yellowish whites. All the ones that did have them had vivid colors and bright white whites. Be happy your display is the one with the visible backlights, the other one sucks.

Anyone having the corners of the glass lifting away from the phone issue on the new batch? Mine are all perfect on the 1.85. Any dead pixels or dust issues?
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Anyone having the corners of the glass lifting away from the phone issue on the new batch? Mine are all perfect on the 1.85. Any dead pixels or dust issues?
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This one that I just got today *seems* perfect. I say seems because as history has taught me 4 times over, only time will tell.

I have a 1.73 and have had zero issues with build, the only issue I had was software (clock not updating time when on wifi and coming out of deep sleep)...which has not returned since the 1.85 update. I have rooted and unlocked bootloader and currently running cleanrom 3.0, standard...and DEV editions! It has never run hot, screen is flawless, and I am happy
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I dont think having 1.85 on the phone qualify the device as second shipment. Maybe one of the many numbers on the box would indicate to this. My first was 1.73 but had a dead pixel, then my second was 1.85 and was about the same minus the dead pixel.
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_MetalHead_ said:
This one that I just got today *seems* perfect. I say seems because as history has taught me 4 times over, only time will tell.
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I could give you an electron and you would probably find something wrong with it compared to all the other electrons.

He would complain that he could predict where it is but never find it!
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I could give you an electron and you would probably find something wrong with it compared to all the other electrons.
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As long as the electron had a separating screen, faulty sim reader, terrible battery life and dust under the screen, or a bad vibration motor and overheating problems, then yeah, you're probably right.

c5satellite2 said:
Anyone having the corners of the glass lifting away from the phone issue on the new batch? Mine are all perfect on the 1.85. Any dead pixels or dust issues?
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i had my first one replaced at bestbuy for dead pixels. He took out a new one x and had dust under the screen. So he set that one aside and gave me another which over all is good. However when I push down on the screen I can see an ink looking blotch show up for a second. Kind of annoying.

Agreed -Does take longer to charge
But I love the battery life on the HOX running 1.85.

I've had mine a couple days before it released on AT&T officially and my co worker has a white One X from the second shipment and our battery life is identical. Give or take an hour or so but build is exactly the same. We do this for a living and are very particular about our devices. I actually swapped mine out twice until I got the perfect one -_-
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So glad I DOA'd my phone. Battery life is much better. Haven't had any wifi issues anymore. And the vibrate motor doesn't rattle.

I can't tell the difference between the two build quality wise. I know that I battery life changes drastically from phone to phone. The grey one I had the battery was perfect. I thought it was getting too hot so I exchanged it. Boy do I wish I didn't. These replacements aren't coming close to that battery life. I'm doing all I can to get one that does and hey if AT&T wants to keep sending me replacements then I'll take em.
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Omg after reading this and inspecting my phone I feel like I am going crazy