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HTC just lost a big one to apple's patents of basic functions.
http://m.gizmodo.com/5869507/htc-android-phones-are-being-banned-from-the-us-next-year
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According to the link its affects HTC Android phones that runs 1.6 to 2.2
^ what he said. Also, phones aren't banned yet, only if HTC doesn't fix the infringement before April 29, 2012. Get your facts straight and adjust your thread title, please.
I like htc. didn't read the article, page won't load on my slow net connect. It would be a shame to fall into the temptation of a nexus on my verizon account, I don't really want to upgrade it to a data plan.
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Basically just saying that apple is claiming the patent rights to be able to click a phone number, internet address, or maps address from a text message, and the software on the phone automatically opening their respective apps. Smooth move.
ekoee said:
Basically just saying that apple is claiming the patent rights to be able to click a phone number, internet address, or maps address from a text message, and the software on the phone automatically opening their respective apps. Smooth move.
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trash. Just like there patent for "slide to unlock" when other phones had this before Apple :/
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Please adjust the title to reflect the facts.
Unless you have some alterior motive by lying.
This patent is fascinating, isn't it? In fact, what this patent actually AMOUNTS to, is a TEXT PARSER, that identifies patterns and generates clickable buttons applicable to the text by context, and *does something* when clicked.
Funny, isn't that what a web browser does? It reads a text file (html), parses it, identifies patterns (<a> tag), generates a clickable button, and launches the target when clicked. Seems to me that web browsers were around LONG before this patent was applied for (1996). Prior art = the patent is invalid.
Unless, of course, it is by association with the server/client model of parsing the text data, which is also specified within the patent. If this is the case, then the simple solution would be to move the "server" component into the application itself (in this case, the "messaging" application). Patent bypassed, no difference to end user, apple gets slapped with 10 million patent infringement suits.
I hope that a lot of apple users can see how PETTY this nonsense is, and choose to spend their money more intelligently in the future.
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I hope that a lot of apple users can see how PETTY this nonsense is, and choose to spend their money more intelligently in the future.
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They won't. They'll be too upset that their Dear Leader died that they'll continue to buy the substandard garbage crApple produces and not even look into how other competitors perform (they need to release Cat Physics for Android and I can sell my jailbroken iPod Touch).
^^yeah, gizmodo is retarded. pretty much EVERY news outlet is retarded.
HTC will not be banned from the US, I can guarantee that... not because of a patent war at least.
CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
trash. Just like there patent for "slide to unlock" when other phones had this before Apple :/
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Just like there patent to get a notification bar just like android had, in IOS 5 lol
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As long as they went through the right legal channels, yeah.
Apple seems like they're trying so hard to get rid of competition, when competition is what breeds innovation.
Companies like that need to grow balls and figure out something else to bring more customers to their product.
Anyone remember when apple dropped the ipod and started patenting things like multitouch, and firefox was chipping away at microflop? The situation was the other way around. They had to fight to get to market, and innovate. They owned very little of the pc market. Now, they seem to have lost their way, and Android is casting a light on just how slow to keep up they are. These small victories will not win the war. While I can understand apple's frustration, they'd better spend the time and effort on being innovative, else join pacman in the halls of museums...
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This patent is fascinating, isn't it? In fact, what this patent actually AMOUNTS to, is a TEXT PARSER, that identifies patterns and generates clickable buttons applicable to the text by context, and *does something* when clicked.
Funny, isn't that what a web browser does? It reads a text file (html), parses it, identifies patterns (<a> tag), generates a clickable button, and launches the target when clicked. Seems to me that web browsers were around LONG before this patent was applied for (1996). Prior art = the patent is invalid.
Unless, of course, it is by association with the server/client model of parsing the text data, which is also specified within the patent. If this is the case, then the simple solution would be to move the "server" component into the application itself (in this case, the "messaging" application). Patent bypassed, no difference to end user, apple gets slapped with 10 million patent infringement suits.
I hope that a lot of apple users can see how PETTY this nonsense is, and choose to spend their money more intelligently in the future.
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The patent is more about heuristically detect phone numbers. Sms messages doesnt specify protocols for phone numbers. Html is a markup language, heuristics not needed to identify links.
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ekoee said:
As long as they went through the right legal channels, yeah.
Apple seems like they're trying so hard to get rid of competition, when competition is what breeds innovation.
Companies like that need to grow balls and figure out something else to bring more customers to their product.
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Now I think android should do the same to them. With the new notification bar IOS has android would win this one and apple will be force to remove it from the OS. They're being an ass I suggest android do the same.
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Now I think android should do the same to them. With the new notification bar IOS has android would win this one and apple will be force to remove it from the OS. They're being an ass I suggest android do the same.
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I'm with you on that. It was a **** move. Then again, I've found myself to be a little too vengeful at times.
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I'm with you on that. It was a **** move. Then again, I've found myself to be a little too vengeful at times.
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Yea htc android should sue apple for copying the notification bar.
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That would truely be awesome
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Yea htc android should sue apple for copying the notification bar.
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They cant as the android notification bar was never patented.
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This case went before the US International Trade Commission, and not Federal court. It'll be a while before we see anything happen. The ITC is appealed directly to President Obama, who will have to rule first. The ruling on the appeal is largely based on weighing the patent holder's rights versus the harm done to the consumer. This could go either way, I think.
Next, the ITC only has one course of jurisdiction, they can prevent the import of the infringing items into the US. For that to happen, HTC must still be infringing. What will likely happen is one of three things:
1) HTC will implement a non-infringing alternative based on the specifics of the the claim construction.
2) The patent will be rendered moot because the claim construction does not cover current versions of Android. Apple would need to re-file with the ITC, which they could do.
3) HTC will license the technology from Apple based on a reasonable royalty calculation.
This is how virtually all of the ITC cases end up. In reality, all of you will have new phones by the time this gets settled upon.
Been thinking about this for a while. It's understandable with phones. companies don't want you to tether and not pay them that extra $40 fee per month. But why does a company like asus want to break our root? What possible advantage could bring to them for not allowing us root? I just don't get it.
The only reason I can think of, people modifying their tablet then sending it in for ASUS to replace when they brick it.
It's people like these that don't take the time to ask questions and Google for answers. It's a user's responsibility to know exactly what they are getting in to when they decide to modify their device.
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The question is why did Asus decide to unlock the Transformer Prime (after all the web initiatives) very soon, and is not doing it for the Transformer (TF101)?
The main reason for wanting consumers to not root their tablets is for things like watching movies from the Android market which will not work on a rooted tablet. I still don't agree with it, as long as we the consumer understand and still want our devices rooted, then companies like Asus should allow this and stop making it hard. The average person not on XDA doesn't even know what rooting is, so why make it difficult for people who like to tinker with hardware that we paid good money for.
I think HTC has it right, if you want to unlock your bootloader they let you do it on their website. Let Asus know that we want this too. Personally I won't buy a phone or tablet without being able to root it. I don't buy phones on contract and want to do what I please with them. I have been using HTC phones for many years because they have always been XDA friendly
As long as we have the ability to have nvflashable ROMs then we don't have to worry about bricking our devices so Asus shouldn't have to worry about things like that either. Cheers.
ckuke4 said:
The main reason for wanting consumers to not root their tablets is for things like watching movies from the Android market which will not work on a rooted tablet.
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I completely forgot about this.
In which case, we can now thank the Media MAFIAA for it.
raduque said:
I completely forgot about this.
In which case, we can now thank the Media MAFIAA for it.
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Guess I should mention that there is a way around this but I haven't tried it as I watch market movies on my HTPC. Cheers.
Another issue has also been raised by the Win8 boot locking crapola. Namely maliciousness.
If only one entity can screw with the firmware, it is harder for e.g. a virus to screw with it, hopefully becomes almost as hard as loading home brew firmware. Imagine Moron20X installing Hot Naked Chix off PirateMarket, and it flashes hacked firmware with a keylogger onto their tablet - then have your "Support" people sweet talk Moron20X into a factory reset, and steal all his logins. Wouldn't work for a lot of people but hell, just look at how many people must fall for Nigerian e-mail scams and Western Union Screw Overs per capita if Wikipedia has such a thick article on 419 scams.
My word...I don't want to think about how many times my mother has brought me something and asked if it was 'legit', with an American address and a Canadian cheque. \o/.
Truth is though, unless these things are really owned by someone else (like say your company), users should have the choice. IMHO it's good for business to lock this stuff, as long as you can like input your SN and get an unlock for a nominal fee.
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The main reason for wanting consumers to not root their tablets is for things like watching movies from the Android market which will not work on a rooted tablet.
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This is a false statement, atleast in my recourse it's bogus. I've watched "The Christmas Story" on my ROOTED TF101 and I've let my daughter watch a couple Disney Movies.
I will say that it breaks HDMI mirroring when i try to watch something via the market on my TV, but i can watch the movie on my tablet.
Spidey01 said:
Another issue has also been raised by the Win8 boot locking crapola. Namely maliciousness.
If only one entity can screw with the firmware, it is harder for e.g. a virus to screw with it, hopefully becomes almost as hard as loading home brew firmware. Imagine Moron20X installing Hot Naked Chix off PirateMarket, and it flashes hacked firmware with a keylogger onto their tablet - then have your "Support" people sweet talk Moron20X into a factory reset, and steal all his logins. Wouldn't work for a lot of people but hell, just look at how many people must fall for Nigerian e-mail scams and Western Union Screw Overs per capita if Wikipedia has such a thick article on 419 scams.
My word...I don't want to think about how many times my mother has brought me something and asked if it was 'legit', with an American address and a Canadian cheque. \o/.
Truth is though, unless these things are really owned by someone else (like say your company), users should have the choice. IMHO it's good for business to lock this stuff, as long as you can like input your SN and get an unlock for a nominal fee.
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This is pretty much it, as far as I can tell. As the original post said, carriers have obvious interests (whether or not I agree with them) in maintaining control of your phone. But we want our tablets, which aren't bound to a contract with a service provider in order to function, to be more like our Windows PCs - largely under our complete control.
Which is understandable. And I feel the same way. But then, you know full well how secure Windows is[n't]. Android has a great track record so far with preventing malware and viruses from getting out into the wild in a big way, and the manufacturers probably feel that locked bootloaders and root restriction is the reason. I'm not certain I agree - Android has some good safeguards that go way beyond root - but whatever.
Ultimately, it's about user behavior. My Windows computer doesn't get viruses, because I know how to prevent that. But your average user doesn't, and when you connect a compromised computer (or tablet, or whatever) to the Internet, it endangers everyone, responsible and irresponsible alike.
Ultimately I don't agree with the top-down control imposed by Asus and the rest of the manufacturers, but from that perspective I guess it makes sense.
It's MAFIAA mostly. Asus even admitted it - saying it's because of DRM. If they can push ACTA in my country with such force our Prime Minister ignores massive demonstrations (something very uncommon in Poland) in -20 Celsius why wouldn't they push for closing up devices so they can "protect" their movies. It's because of Netflix and such - which doesn't even work outside US.
Just wanna share guys. If this is not the appropriate section then mods can either move or close this thread. I hope apple won't bribe patenet officials
http://phandroid.com/2012/02/17/goo...tion-pull-down-bar-yeah-back-in-09-fun-facts/
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Awesome. I face-palmed the first time I saw Apple's "Notification Center". XD
Patent will be disallowed, apple will patent it later and sue google. Pretty sure with apples money and "luck" that's what will happen.
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People don't seem to understand a lot of the phone company litigation (despite Apple being the clear market leader on spurious litigation) is tit for tat, and it was that way in mobile phone manufacture before Apple came along.
In many cases both (or even more ) companies all use patent infringement against each other as nothing more than a leverage tool. Bit like a wild west card game where everyone has sawed off gauge under the table.
What often happens is ........ essentially nothing, the lawyers get rich and the marketing depts screech about stolen tech (often tech that was developed by other companies ages ago), but behind the scenes everyone agrees to allow use of their stolen tech.
Sounds bonkers but it happens a lot, think companies litigate to see if any competitor will blink, But its like a card game .... everyone has a hand and the result is often a classic Mexican stand-off.
This seems like one of the main reasons Google acquired Motorola (in case you where wondering) Google with Motorola's old patents is a PROPER mobile phone contender (Google has its own gun under the table now mofos), without the patents they would have been very vulnerable to the court room battle tactic, now they can just play the same game.
As litigate and counter litigation can actually stop phone manufacture and sales for everyone involved as manufactures can be legally forced to halt sales or production .... if everyone involved fires a suite at the others ........ everyone gets shut down ...... so you see there is a perverse self interest in everyone eventually agreeing to carry on as before the litigation.
I know it sounds nuts, yes they do spent millions on these cases, often to achieve nothing but the same equilibrium that existed before the court case.
Can Google really do anything against apple since android is open source? I'd love to see apple get a taste of their own medicine.
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Let's see how Apple responds.
Slide to Unlock now belongs to them.
but not by ICS, which is too different.
We have been lucky again
even better....
http://phandroid.com/2012/02/16/goo...finds-work-around-for-apples-slide-to-unlock/
to be honest this whole patent fight b/w the two is getting a little redic. The Apple v. Samsung dispute that includes apples slide unlock is absolutely absurd to begin with. Apple filed for that patent AFTER another phone manufacturer had already had a device out using it. Which was the basis for one judge dismissing the patent all together. Fact that its gotten through others is comical to me...
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Can Google really do anything against apple since android is open source? I'd love to see apple get a taste of their own medicine.
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Yes they can. Their ideas are their intellectual property. Open source has nothing to do with it.
damn you suing android for nonsense you are prob the 2nd most richest company in the world and your suing android for gestures come apple be real all pc's and other tablets have your gestures are you gonna sue them too geez apple stop being greedy and share and care....
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damn you suing android for nonsense you are prob the 2nd most richest company in the world and your suing android for gestures come apple be real all pc's and other tablets have your gestures are you gonna sue them too geez apple stop being greedy and share and care....
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As much as I dislike the ruling, it's a legit reason. Depending on what your talking about (The Sammy vs. Apple case). Samsung CLEARLY copied a lot from Apple, just take a look at the 1st Galaxy S. It looks like a modded iPhone. There's no getting around that point. I'm not the biggest fan of Apple, but me wanting to make it big as a business man. I need to see things from an unbiased point of view. That's why I have little, to no problem with the ruling. It's just business. You can also make the counter argument that none of the current Galaxy Devices look like an iPhone, but they didn't get in trouble for those. It was just the OG Galaxies. About the gestures things, there's certain ways you implement gestures. Samsung was using a patented way to implement gestures. But as I was saying earlier, it's just bossiness. Now Motorola is suing Apple for many Wifi, and Data patent infringements. That pretty much covers all there devices with a Wifi Radio on it. Now you don't see people complaining about how bad a company is. There happy that Apple is getting sued, so am I. But is it fair to Apple, and there products (Not just iPhones, but Macs, etc) not really. But it's all business. Apple sues Samsung, now Motorola pulls an Apple on Apple. What a magical world we live in. We should see the positive in this whole thing. The phone world should stop being flooded with ****ty phones, and company will create better devices. Apple put the fear of Steve into every OEM.
I'm also inclined to agree with the victory for Apple for the Samsung v Apple case as well...
I like Android. I consider it (vastly) superior to iOS. That does not mean I will always back up other companies that produce Android devices simply because they use Android on their phones. In my opinion, the older versions of TouchWiz did have some striking similarities with iOS. This does not mean I think Android is a copy of iOS, it just means I think an early stage of a company's skin looked very similar to Apple's.
Also that corporate email stuff and that mention of Google warning them could not have helped their case.
I see what you guys are saying and since I've never even picked up a Samsung Galaxy I probably shouldn't say anything at all. But hasn't tapping icons on a touchscreen, the color white & rectangles been around for quite a while now? The DS being my first and only smartphone this is my only experience but it does make me wonder where it will stop. Only tinkering a bit with an iPhone & an iPad.....I was absolutely astonished as to how similar the versions of MIUI were to iOS when I have run them. The theory and the code (although probably different programming languages) have to have huge similarites. Do suits like this open up the door for Apple to begin suing individual developers for "copying" their OS? If so....they don't stand a chance against Apple's vast legal resources .....or am I just pulling one outta my big ole butt?
Quoting weekendsR2short, "Do suits like this open up the door for Apple to begin suing individual developers for "copying" their OS? If so....they don't stand a chance against Apple's vast legal resources .....or am I just pulling one outta my big ole butt?"
I think that because the Android os is open source, the individual people developing are going to be exempt. They are just going off what was put out there. With everything being open, Apple should have been able to see from day one and been in court then, maybe they just wanted us all to love the os and take us users by storm into the Apple world.
Just my two cents
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I don't see this as Apple vs. Android at all; it's more Samsung vs. Apple.
I'm loyal to Google and Google warned Samsung of the similarities. This makes taking the verdict a lot easier pill to swallow.
The true problem is the patent office. Stop allowing people to patent basic **** like rectangles with rounded corners.
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Interesting Patent...
rorytmeadows said:
The true problem is the patent office. Stop allowing people to patent basic **** like rectangles with rounded corners.
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That's exactly the problem! If you can patent, as Samsung claimed "rectangles with rounded edges", where is it going to end? Should all devices with one button below the screen be considered as patent infringement? The point of a patent is not to protect a brand, it's to allow a revolutionary new idea to have its chance at the market...
That said, I haven't actually read the verdict in any detail. Did the jury claim patent infringement, or trademark infringement?
Apple copied a lot from microsoft, they had made a pc that is completly portable and a couple years later apple made a more polished version called the ipad, but microsoft didn't sue.
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Apple copied a lot from microsoft, they had made a pc that is completly portable and a couple years later apple made a more polished version called the ipad, but microsoft didn't sue.
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What PC are you talking about? AFAIK (which is not very far), Microsoft has never done hardware except for the Surface tablet.
Apple also stole the original GUI from Xerox
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Apple copied a lot from microsoft, they had made a pc that is completly portable and a couple years later apple made a more polished version called the ipad, but microsoft didn't sue.
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EXACTLY my point.....its like amd copied intel processors......intel didnt sue.....intel desided to make better more energy saving durable processors
Point blank, Apple is upset because they can't do any better than android, so they have to sue to help themselves feel better. I swear corporate bullies is all they are LoL They're latest upgrades/updates are just catching up (still haven't) to what android has been offering for years, so they sue in efforts to slow down progress IMO anyway. Which will never happen. They want to be a monopoly in a world of freedom...impossible!!!
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Comments about this or that company didn't sue Apple when they did this or that are probably under-informed. Many companies have contractual agreements to not litigate over vast areas of intellectual property. For the present discussion, perhaps the most well known is the agreement between Microsoft and Apple. Those guys were in court pretty much non-stop for years. Perhaps some of you youngsters in the audience didn't know that Apple sued MS, claiming that the Windows UI was derivative of the Mac UI. Anyhow, at a certain point, I guess they both realized it was mutually-assured-destruction (or some other line of reasoning), and the two companies signed a far-reaching non-aggression pact. Other companies have similar arrangements. It's quite common.
As someone said earlier, it's just business. These companies are not refraining from going to court because it's the morally correct thing to do.
Assuming the verdict and penalty were arrived at justly (I wouldn't know one way or the other), the only place that fairness comes into it is that Apple seems uninterested in getting licensing revenue. They want to stop their competitors from using their patented stuff, which I think is a bummer for us consumers all around. Contrast with Microsoft, which has a tidy business of getting royalties from almost all Android phone makers. You could call that a rip-off, but those other companies agreed to it, and the cost is probably insignificant compared to your overall price for a current smart phone.
The way I see it, competition breeds innovation. Money makes people play dirty, but it's how they deal with it that'll eventually make us better phones.
Android is a collaboration of multiple companies creating their own flavors, with Google at the tip of the spear. Apple is a closed door who makes app developers pay to create programs that make their company money. The only thing apple has an advantage of is grabbing celebrity endorsements for their one size fits all equipment.
I honestly think apple is running out of ideas. They need a breakthrough, and they thought Siri was it. As much fun as it would be to act like Tony Stark talking to Jarvis, I don't think it's any more useful than our Genius button. Software just isn't there yet.
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Perhaps some of you youngsters in the audience didn't know that Apple sued MS, claiming that the Windows UI was derivative of the Mac UI. Anyhow, at a certain point, I guess they both realized it was mutually-assured-destruction (or some other line of reasoning), and the two companies signed a far-reaching non-aggression pact.
As someone said earlier, it's just business. These companies are not refraining from going to court because it's the morally correct thing to do.
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Actually the suit was thrown out because Apple built Mac os from the open source Xerox GUI. In those days patent suits were more realistic. Logical thinking of you can't patent something that is a copy. Now the patent law has become very unrealistic and out of control.
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I don't see this as Apple vs. Android at all; it's more Samsung vs. Apple.
I'm loyal to Google and Google warned Samsung of the similarities. This makes taking the verdict a lot easier pill to swallow.
The true problem is the patent office. Stop allowing people to patent basic **** like rectangles with rounded corners.
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Agreed at the patent office being the real problem. Did Henry Ford get a patent on 4 wheels and engine in front? Does Gibson sue everyone who makes a "Les Paul style" guitar or one with Humbucking pickups? No. The root problem here is that Steve Jobs, and in his absence Apple in general, is too lazy to out innovate anyone so they want the market returned to the days when they WERE the innovators. I personally prefer devices like the DS and the original G1 because nobody is ever going to mistake them for an iTurd. And yes... I would drop my SIM card in my G1 again before it would touch an i device.
Xiaomi better be careful with releasing a phone with MIUI as stock os though... If the new one looks as much like iOS as the one I tried for DS... That could be a problem. It just makes me sad because most of the GUI patents Apple was awarded they didn't even come up with.
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What PC are you talking about? AFAIK (which is not very far), Microsoft has never done hardware except for the Surface tablet.
Apple also stole the original GUI from Xerox
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The Tablet PC was out long before the iPad. Go watch some episodes of 24 and you'll see CTU use one. XP Tablet edition was out before Vista.
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Ohgami_Ichiro said:
The Tablet PC was out long before the iPad. Go watch some episodes of 24 and you'll see CTU use one. XP Tablet edition was out before Vista.
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But we all know Tablets as we use them now would have never have been with out Apple. Apple sparks the idea, then company's try to battle it out. Take the iPhone, touch screens where not a huge thing. iPhone comes out and BAM! Market floods with Touch Screen phones.
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The Tablet PC was out long before the iPad. Go watch some episodes of 24 and you'll see CTU use one. XP Tablet edition was out before Vista.
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Or 2001, yes? I actually watched that after all this Apple/Samsung/Other garbage started... Most exciting.
What I was actually saying is that *Microsoft* does not make hardware, HP, Dell, ect. make hardware and Microsoft licences them hardware. Nitpicky, I know. That's how I am. Sorry!
That said, I just looked up tablet PCs before and after the iPad, there is a marked shift... From huge, bulky stuff (with resistive touchscreens and/or styluses) to sleek, thin, multitouch devices.
But then, I only know what I've picked up, I've never researched anything about this.
I hope you guys realize this is all just a publicity stunt for Apple. Rather than spending $$$$ on advertising, they would spend it on getting into legal fights with Samsung. And in the process they can prove to the uninformed consumer (a surprising majority of the population) that they were the first to come up with the ideas, and they are the innovators.
And they actually came away with some money from their main competitor as well. It's a win win win for them any way you look at it.
I can't even remember the last time I saw an ad for the iPhone, or any Apple product for that matter.
A VERY good point gtmaster303! It goes back to the saying, "There's no such thing as bad publicity".
Haha!
Have you guys seen Apple?
They are shifting their focus from creating great products to patenting everything they can see now that Jobs died.
Check their latest patent...
I don't even know what to tell them.
Asus will probably sue.. like Apple did for the rounded Galaxy corners.
That is just stupid. Why the hell they think they can keep doing this?
It's not like they can own every single idea and try to make money out of this.
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Apple have been doing that for a long time honestly. The iPhone touchscreen patent was forgotten and expired, so Apple got it. The name iPhone is owned by Cisco (I owned a Cisco one - IP phone), but they allowed Apple to use it through some deal.
In the past 10 or so years, all Apple has done is buy and polish like hell. Make it look spotless and perfect. I only use 1 product from them and it's their Macbook, since it's so damn convenient for my job but yeah, I totally agree with you. When you stop competing, you buy patents and you sue (iPhone is losing major market to Android). It seems to be par for the course these days... just look at Yahoo, etc. Just hope they don't turn into patent trolls... :\
How can they get away with that blatant disrespect not to mention copying? I hope Asus sues the hell out of them & win!!!
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