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Its very annoying that phone models are locked into specific carriers (hope this changes in the future) but im currently on AT&T, which in my area has the best overall signal coverage. Can this phone be put on the ATT network?
Is this phone a good one? My roommate just got the Incredible 2, and im liking the Thunderbolt, but thinking i need to jump on the Dual core market. I currently have a Touch pro 2, which is ok, but SLOW.
Also, what features does this phone have? HTC's own site seems selective on what they post on their specs (they tend to leave out common features on some phones)
Things I like on the thunderbolt spec sheet are..
Dual mics with noise cancellation, Compass sensor, G-Sensor, Proximity sensor (not sure what this is used for), Light sensor, 3.5mm audio jack, MicroUSB, FM radio. (i also like the kick stand)
The G-Sensor i think is pretty standard these days, tho not sure what they mean by the Compass sensor, id be great if it actually had a compass in it.
But this phone doesn't list ANY special features on HTC site.
Thanks in advance.
The Bell model gets At&t bands
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The Bell model gets At&t bands
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the What model?
Lyian said:
the What model?
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Bell is a Canadian phone company (pretty sure) and has the same bands as ATT so their phones are compatible. If you're gonna jump onto the dual-core wagon, check out the SGS2 phones (i'm pretty sure ATT has one coming to them soon if not already...) Then you wont need to unlock or worry about compatibility
The sensation 4g will work on att, but you won't get 3g data.
Of the specs you listed regarding the Thunderbolt, the sensation 4g has all those features, minus a kickstand.
Also, the proximity sensor is used to detect close or far objects. An example of it in use is when you put your ear up to the phone during a call, and the screen automatically turns off, then turns back on when you move away from it.
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Don't try to get the tmobile version. You won't get anything above 2g.
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The Bell (Canadian) model (Z710A) will work on AT&T 3G. The T-Mobile or European versions will work on AT&T, but they will only connect with EDGE data speeds, not 3G.
I'm not overly concerned about data really, unless i'm forced to pay for it. The Touch Pro 2 i have now i bought unlocked so i didn't have to pay for data.
Also, the proximity sensor is used to detect close or far objects. An example of it in use is when you put your ear up to the phone during a call, and the screen automatically turns off, then turns back on when you move away from it.
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I thought the light sensor did that? My TP2 does that, but doesn't mention a prox. sensor.
The Bell model gets 3G bands but is locked at the moment. It should be unlocked next week:
http://negrielectronics.com/htc-z710a-sensation-850-1900-3g.html
the t-Mo and Euro versions work but only allow 2G
You shouldn't have a required data plan if you pay cash for the phone.
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The Bell model gets 3G bands but is locked at the moment. It should be unlocked next week:
http://negrielectronics.com/htc-z710a-sensation-850-1900-3g.html
the t-Mo and Euro versions work but only allow 2G
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Eww.. I paied that much for my TP2, i cant really afford that again... i might be stuck with a contract Which id bet i couldnt get this.. this sucks lol.
Hows the speaker on this phone? My TP2 has dual speaker and has pretty good quality (also has a handy mic mute on the back). It also uses the sensor and switch's it to speaker when i flip the phone over (lying on the screen) Can this phone, or others do that or is that a TP2 specific thing?
Well, nobody around here offers this phone.. Which sucks. Ive been watching reviews on both This and the SGS2. While the SGS2 looks like a nice phone, and seems to be pretty comparable, i like how the Sensation looks alitlte more. The button placement, and the more 'roundness of it is more to my taste than then square 'iphone-iks' looking SGS2. Hell id proly be willing to start using a data plan if i could get this phone on att. (tmobile isnt in my area, if they are their coverage isnt good.)
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Eww.. I paied that much for my TP2, i cant really afford that again... i might be stuck with a contract Which id bet i couldnt get this.. this sucks lol.
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$550CAD straight from Bell Canada, which won't really help you much if you don't live in Canada or near the border. Once they're carrier unlocked and have custom ROMS I'll drive up and pick up a Bell model to use on AT&T, can't wait
ok.. i was wrong.. T-mobile is apparently in my area. I have no personal experiences with them however and none of my friends use them, so not sure how well they work in my area. Its food for thought tho.
Where are you located?
Chances are you aren't in a 3G coverage area which is good news because you can skip out on paying through the nose for a data plan... just opt for the 200MB no overage "unlimited" throttle point data plan and you're good to go. Voice coverage is probably still a concern but if it's just bad at your house T-Mobile has WiFi calling which uses your WiFi network to place and receive calls and texts
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Where are you located?
Chances are you aren't in a 3G coverage area which is good news because you can skip out on paying through the nose for a data plan... just opt for the 200MB no overage "unlimited" throttle point data plan and you're good to go. Voice coverage is probably still a concern but if it's just bad at your house T-Mobile has WiFi calling which uses your WiFi network to place and receive calls and texts
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im around IU campus in Indiana. Their map shows 'average' coverage around town, but i know how exaggerated/inaccurate those maps can be.
As far as the data, from what ive seen, it includes up to 4g
Unlimited high-speed data access (first 200 MB at up to 4G speeds on capable devices)
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You are correct, 3g isn't in this area, let alone 4g (and from what i've told, nobody except Verizon has 'true 4g' anyway)
I dono, i guess im just use to ATT lol. Still, even with a new contract its 200 bucks upfront, which i cant afford atm. Still, im kinda drooling over this phone lol. Im over WinMo
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about time.
If there are wal-marts in your part of the country, I hear they have it for $148.88
lol, yea, otherside of town has one, but blah buying one from wal-mart. Somehow i dont trust them to set things up correctly. Transferring my number and whatnot. It will take a month or two for me to have the money in any event.
i kinda hate that every place has different deals. T-mobile itslef has a higher upfront cost, ($250) but a lower monthly charge (59.99) but Newegg has a lower upfront ($150) but a higher monthly (69.99). The monthly cost seems to differ in the data.. Tmoble charing 10, newegg 20.
Bah!
@ Lyian Keep an eye out on the tmobile website. Just last Wed/Thurs (for lilke 24 hours) they were selling the Sensation for free with new contracts/new lines of service.
Keep an eye out tmo does that all the time.
If anyone wants to know I have a Sensation from T-mobile in Puerto Rico and I noticed that it says in the box that it works on 1700, 1900 and 2100 frequencies for data which means it can work on AT&T.
I'll try to unblock it later and see if it really works.
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Hows the speaker on this phone? My TP2 has dual speaker and has pretty good quality (also has a handy mic mute on the back). It also uses the sensor and switch's it to speaker when i flip the phone over (lying on the screen) Can this phone, or others do that or is that a TP2 specific thing?
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The speaker isn't that good for most apps. But for certain apps (like Google Music) it's really loud. I don't know why. Most people have overcome this problem by using the Equalizer app or Volume+ though. And yes, it can do that.
I'm switching over from At&t to T-Mobile by the end of September and I was wondering if I should get the Sensation 4g. Do you think that HTC will have (or will soon have) fixed all of the issues like Screen unresponsiveness, Not enough RAM, death grip, software issues, etc? Or will they ignore them?
Are there any other issues with the phone that I haven't listed?
Also, how is the Camera and the GPS? (Being a post user of the Vibrant's terrible GPS)
Should I go for a different phone or get the Sensation?
The camera and gps are exceptional on the sensation, like everything else. Ram will stay the same but tocuh screen issue fix (a minor nuisance) and other software performance improvements are either already available in modded roms or will be as soon as "s-off" update is released by HTC.
its an awesome phone and you'll love it for sure.
One thing I would look into more at this point it, AT&T is lookin to buy out T-Mo? I read that in the news a bunch of times, dont know how that will effect everything. Perhaps you could wait and see the carrier dynamics.
Thanks! When is the s-off update supposed to hit? And I know that At&t is buying out T-Mobile but I'm hoping I'll be able to keep the cheaper plan.
If you want a strictly touch screen service on the T-Mobile network then yes I suggest you get this device problems and all you'll still probably love it especially if you compare it to other devices.
If you wan't a physical keyboard, trackpad, and the ability to take advantage of T-Mobile's 42 Mbps speeds you should look into getting the mytouch slide 4g.... Pretty much same specs but suppose to have a better camera.... It's available for sale on the 27th
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Thanks! When is the s-off update supposed to hit? And I know that At&t is buying out T-Mobile but I'm hoping I'll be able to keep the cheaper plan.
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the s-off is officially announced by HTC by no time frame give.. most people assume sometime in august but its just a guess.
This is the best 4G device TMob USA has in my opinion!
I painfully wrote a very long review with videos and pictures of the Galaxy S II Skyrocket. Just thought I'd share it with you guys.
http://briefmobile.com/review-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-skyrocket-att
Overall, I think it's a very solid phone. I'm sure there are plenty of users out there wondering: "Should I buy the Skyrocket?" I'm not sure I answer that unanswerable question in my review, but hopefully it clears things up for anyone who hasn't made up their mind.
One of the main points, that I stress in the conclusion is that AT&T forecasted 170 million covered with LTE by the end of 2012. And, Advanced coming in 2013. If you're committing to two years with a device, don't necessarily go with the SGS2 I777 because LTE doesn't cover your area. I think that's a really valid point. Although the Exynos model is more powerful, LTE is arguably more important to most people.
Thoughts? Everyone happy with the device? Unhappy? Anything you want me to check on?
The website is down! But the Google Cache version is up.
There have been constant reports of network issues. This is on AT&T's side of things, not the device itself. It seems that the towers are not properly recognizing the device (be it on LTE, HSPA+, etc.) and dropping signal. There is a temporary APN fix in the development fourm. Multiple users have called into AT&T to tell them about it--- I would advise others to do the same so that they know this is a widespread issue.
Other than that, this is a great phone.
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The website is down! But the Google Cache version is up.
There have been constant reports of network issues. This is on AT&T's side of things, not the device itself. It seems that the towers are not properly recognizing the device (be it on LTE, HSPA+, etc.) and dropping signal. There is a temporary APN fix in the development fourm. Multiple users have called into AT&T to tell them about it--- I would advise others to do the same so that they know this is a widespread issue.
Other than that, this is a great phone.
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Interesting. I haven't experienced any network issues. Then again, I've been cold swapping SIMs and changing APNs on a daily basis between my review unit SIM and personal SIM.
I wonder why the website was down for you. Looks up now. Hopefully no more downtime.
Haven't had any issues. Have root working and just installed the first (of many) deoxed stock rom...... Needs a touch of Alien though, LOL. Glad to see ya. Thinking about a new phone-task? Hope they don't drop a samsung phone in 29 days that is better but so far this phone seems solid. I think it has a lot of potential. Granted the exynos isn'tin it but the snapdragon3 oc'd a little to 1.7ish....I think this phone will be awesome even moreso when there are more LTE areas.
Not to mention NFC support and ICS confirmed.
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Interesting. I haven't experienced any network issues. Then again, I've been cold swapping SIMs and changing APNs on a daily basis between my review unit SIM and personal SIM.
I wonder why the website was down for you. Looks up now. Hopefully no more downtime.
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Yay, its back up!
Here is the thread with users reporting the issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339122
Great revue, congratulation. I think it's the best revue in I read on this phone, well written, well documented and technically savy enough.
Thank you very much for your hard work
I was going to get a skyrocket until I researched the differences between it and i777. The LTE is only so much of a positive, especially since you should use wifi whenever you can. Some guy on another thread used 6gb over LTE in a week, which is enough to get you throttled. Someone commented that you can use 2gb over LTE in 20 minutes. For the most part, LTE just means things occur a little faster. I compared Pandora's loading time and some other things between the two and there was only a minor (and sometimes non-existent) difference. The LTE is a plus, but a relatively small one (especially if you don't want to get throttled).
On the plus side, the i777 comes out far ahead. The processor difference is more than just a higher-quality processor. The difference is so great that the skyrocket's processor has to be set to 1.5 ghz just to match the speed and performance of the i777's 1.2 ghz. That means you won't be able to overclock the skyrocket as much because you are starting higher. In addition, the GPU on the skyrocket is quite inferior. The result is a choppy experience. I compared the two and saw this time and time again. In addition, the resolution is worse on the skyrocket (same pixels but bigger screen). This is stuff people will notice and use on a daily basis, much more often than LTE. Also, there is not going to be nearly as much dev work on the skyrocket.
Really, there is one small advantage of the skyrocket (LTE) and a lot of big ones for the i777.
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On the plus side, the i777 comes out far ahead. The processor difference is more than just a higher-quality processor. The difference is so great that the skyrocket's processor has to be set to 1.5 ghz just to match the speed and performance of the i777's 1.2 ghz. That means you won't be able to overclock the skyrocket as much because you are starting higher. In addition, the GPU on the skyrocket is quite inferior. The result is a choppy experience. I compared the two and saw this time and time again. In addition, the resolution is worse on the skyrocket (same pixels but bigger screen). This is stuff people will notice and use on a daily basis, much more often than LTE. Also, there is not going to be nearly as much dev work on the skyrocket.
Really, there is one small advantage of the skyrocket (LTE) and a lot of big ones for the i777.
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Have you used (owned) the phone for a day or more? I haven't experienced any lag in day to day use at all. Gaming has not been a problem, although I cannot compare it to the SGS2 since I did not own it. The HSPA+ network is actually a lot better on this phone than my previous Infuse and other phones were. So even if you are not in an LTE area, it could be worth it, especially if you plan on keeping it for two years as LTE becomes more widely available.
If you used the phone in-store that could explain things. After I got rid of the bloatware and cleaned up some routine things (like I do on every phone / computer once purchased) the in-store "lagness" disappeared completely. As far as the "exynos vs snapdragon" debate --- it is still a dual core phone. Most phones can't claim that. While Exynos may be better on sheet, it isn't compatible (yet) with LTE. Given that the day to day experiences are the same (roughly benchmark the same as well), I will put this as a positive for the snapdragon.
Coming from the SGS2 it might not be worth the upgrade (since it just released a month ago). But if anyone is coming from other phones I would recommend this over the SGS2 for the reasons I stated.
Dumb question -- If I go get this from AT&T, am I going to see additional monthly charges due to my "upgrading" to LTE or is my contract the same? If so, say I sell my SGSII and buy the Skyrocket off the secondary market -- Would I get LTE in the areas available with my normal contract?
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Dumb question -- If I go get this from AT&T, am I going to see additional monthly charges due to my "upgrading" to LTE or is my contract the same? If so, say I sell my SGSII and buy the Skyrocket off the secondary market -- Would I get LTE in the areas available with my normal contract?
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No you won't see any additional charges. You do have to upgrade (exchange for 4G) your sim card though.
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I was going to get a skyrocket until I researched the differences between it and i777. The LTE is only so much of a positive, especially since you should use wifi whenever you can. Some guy on another thread used 6gb over LTE in a week, which is enough to get you throttled. Someone commented that you can use 2gb over LTE in 20 minutes. For the most part, LTE just means things occur a little faster. I compared Pandora's loading time and some other things between the two and there was only a minor (and sometimes non-existent) difference. The LTE is a plus, but a relatively small one (especially if you don't want to get throttled).
On the plus side, the i777 comes out far ahead. The processor difference is more than just a higher-quality processor. The difference is so great that the skyrocket's processor has to be set to 1.5 ghz just to match the speed and performance of the i777's 1.2 ghz. That means you won't be able to overclock the skyrocket as much because you are starting higher. In addition, the GPU on the skyrocket is quite inferior. The result is a choppy experience. I compared the two and saw this time and time again. In addition, the resolution is worse on the skyrocket (same pixels but bigger screen). This is stuff people will notice and use on a daily basis, much more often than LTE. Also, there is not going to be nearly as much dev work on the skyrocket.
Really, there is one small advantage of the skyrocket (LTE) and a lot of big ones for the i777.
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I completely disagree. Man I just don't understand the need to make up lies and no valid point as to why osgs2 is better. You like everyone else are just defending your purchase. For all potential owners do your own research. From my personal experience with both phone your not missing anything but gaining LTE, 4.5 screen, higher HSPA+ speed better battery. If you like lots of custom roms and your a gamer go with the osgs2.
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No you won't see any additional charges. You do have to upgrade (exchange for 4G) your sim card though.
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So changing out your 3G for 4G SIM card does that constitute a contract change and then give ATT free reign to change your plan and take away the unlimited grandfathered plans and features that I have had for several years and I am absolutely not willing to change?
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So changing out your 3G for 4G SIM card does that constitute a contract change and then give ATT free reign to change your plan and take away the unlimited grandfathered plans and features that I have had for several years and I am absolutely not willing to change?
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Possibly? You would have to ask a store rep. I still have unlimited and my features from my previous plans. I am not sure if a sim card upgrade constitutes as a plan/contract upgrade.
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Possibly? You would have to ask a store rep. I still have unlimited and my features from my previous plans. I am not sure if a sim card upgrade constitutes as a plan/contract upgrade.
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Just was checking and getting feedback...I always ask the rep to NOT change any instance of my plan or adjust anything that will effect the status of it. Thanks for the input and thoughts.
good review Ken. yeah the only problem i have with this thing so far is the resolution (especially when you go from looking at a vivid/raider screen to it). and changing the density is good but then touchwiz and the dialer need to be resized.
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So changing out your 3G for 4G SIM card does that constitute a contract change and then give ATT free reign to change your plan and take away the unlimited grandfathered plans and features that I have had for several years and I am absolutely not willing to change?
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No we can change your sim card without touching your data plan. No worries.
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good review Ken. yeah the only problem i have with this thing so far is the resolution (especially when you go from looking at a vivid/raider screen to it). and changing the density is good but then touchwiz and the dialer need to be resized.
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I completely agree. That's by far the worst aspect of the device.
Great review Mr. Penn
If you had a previous "4g" device such as infuse,attic,inspire,or the gs2 you dont need to switch your sim just pop the old out and into your New phone
(Going back and forth between the og and skyrocket)
There is always going to be pros and cons on any phone that comes out. Whether its hardware or looks there will always be people who like it or dislike it. Just from what I have read the lte is only major advantage the skyrocket has. Other then that there pretty close as far as day to day use. I don't live in a lte area and I have no idea when it will actually be available here. I hear people say get the skyrocket now cause in a year or two it lte should be available in most major cities. That's my issue though cause in a year or two there will be a lot more phones that are lte capable out there. They will be faster and probably HD screen (seems to be the way the screens are going now) have the latest software etc etc etc. So I will wait. Even though I have a upgrade next month ill wait. Quad core phones are starting to step into the picture. By next year we should have some amazing phones with outrageous specs. I am jealous at those that live in a lte area. The lte speeds you guys are getting are crazy.
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Any thoughts on your next? My wife is due to upgrade her G2 in August and I'm due next August. We are both die-hard QWERTY fans. Thoughts for the future? Dreams/rumors welcome...
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Any thoughts on your next? My wife is due to upgrade her G2 in August and I'm due next August. We are both die-hard QWERTY fans. Thoughts for the future? Dreams/rumors welcome...
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I honestly really like this phone. It's fast, the screen is fine, the stock ROM isn't terrible, and there's hardware buttons. The screen honestly could have been a bit bigger, but it's not unpleasant to use at all. The camera is great as well.
I just wish there'd be a new phone that's 4"+ with a keyboard. A 5-row keyboard would be great.
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I honestly really like this phone. It's fast, the screen is fine, the stock ROM isn't terrible, and there's hardware buttons. The screen honestly could have been a bit bigger, but it's not unpleasant to use at all. The camera is great as well.
I just wish there'd be a new phone that's 4"+ with a keyboard. A 5-row keyboard would be great.
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I honestly really like this phone. It's fast, the screen is fine, the stock ROM isn't terrible, and there's hardware buttons. The screen honestly could have been a bit bigger, but it's not unpleasant to use at all. The camera is great as well.
I just wish there'd be a new phone that's 4"+ with a keyboard. A 5-row keyboard would be great.
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Well yes, but what about in the future?
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ok, here is sort a dream: if Samsung would put the Sidekick 4G keyboard on the Galaxy S III! i would buy that SO fast! otherwise i just gotta wait and see what comes out i guess, there is nothing that i know of yet.
Tmobile did say the Sidekick line would continue, and if they could keep the great keyboard, AND bring up the other specs closer to a high-end device, i would get that.
I'm not a fan of QWERTY's honestly.
I only got this phone because it was a free upgrade from my MyTouch 4g which I got via a free upgrade from my G2
I only accepted the upgrade because its truly an upgrade in power specs. I haven't used the keyboard for more than 100 words in its entirety. So I will be moving to the all hailed GSIII IF it is all it is cracked to be. As I like giant screens with thin bodies. Maybe a HTC One XL because I am loving this premadonna sense right now its frickkng awesome.
Typed by ---- oh wait! I'm schizophrenic!
My hope would be for HTC to reconsider their decision and make another device with a hardware keyboard, something in the quad-core arena.
Keep the tv-out so the form factor can be kept small, and the smaller screen is off-set by plugging into a bigger one mostly anywhere.
I get the impression that hardware keyboard devices are a dying breed, and if they die out completely then so does my participation in the smart-phone arena.
I don't like cell phones, don't use the phone function of this one, and without a hardware keyboard the frustration level of using a pocket coputer like this is off the charts for me.
As convenient as this is for my job, I can be served by a transformer or something similar fine, and I have a bluetooth keyboard but it's not as worthwhile as an attached keyboard.
Samsung is my hope for the future as long as HTC intends to give us the finger...
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Droid 4, when we can start using it on gsm carriers. I think of all the qwerty phones, it's the best, because of its evolution and improvements over the generations.
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Droid 4, when we can start using it on gsm carriers. I think of all the qwerty phones, it's the best, because of its evolution and improvements over the generations.
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The Droid line is marketed by Verizon, so we'll never see any official Droid phones off of CDMA networks.
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The Droid line is marketed by Verizon, so we'll never see any official Droid phones off of CDMA networks.
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I believe they're going to release a radio update that allows it to be used on gsm carriers.
Or I'm sure some xda member will figure out how to make the phone work on other networks.
Whatever the case may be, this will be much further down the road when everyone has moved on from this phone and if no other qwertys have come out since then
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I believe they're going to release a radio update that allows it to be used on gsm carriers.
Or I'm sure some xda member will figure out how to make the phone work on other networks.
Whatever the case may be, this will be much further down the road when everyone has moved on from this phone and if no other qwertys have come out since then
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Lmfao. Ok its time for Some Tech Talk. Tmo and At&t both use GSM towers. Sprint and verizon use CDMA. With GSM you need a SIM Card. With CDMA there is no SIM Card. Long story short it has zero to do with Radio Flashing. I dont care what radio you flash unless verizon moves to GSM which will never happen no verizon droid phone will work with Tmo or At&t. Even if you find an unlocked verizon phone you still cant use it on a GSM Network. The hardware wont allow it. No amount of Software hacking will get you there either. It is beyond impossible.
Half right. There is such a thing as a world phone...both CDMA and GSM.
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Ima keep this phone until a WORTHY succesor is out like quadcore, hd display, good keyboard, etc
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Half right. There is such a thing as a world phone...both CDMA and GSM.
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Isn't the Doubleshot a world phone? I thought it was....
http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-20117521-85/smartphones-for-world-travelers-roundup/
After reading about world phones, this article seems to refer to quad band gsm phones. Our phone doesn't have CDMA... I guess I knew that though.
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Half right. There is such a thing as a world phone...both CDMA and GSM.
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You only need a GSM Phone to be considered a world phone. I think 2 countries including the US use CDMA the rest use GSM. So basically yes the DS is a world phone.
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Lmfao. Ok its time for Some Tech Talk. Tmo and At&t both use GSM towers. Sprint and verizon use CDMA. With GSM you need a SIM Card. With CDMA there is no SIM Card. Long story short it has zero to do with Radio Flashing. I dont care what radio you flash unless verizon moves to GSM which will never happen no verizon droid phone will work with Tmo or At&t. Even if you find an unlocked verizon phone you still cant use it on a GSM Network. The hardware wont allow it. No amount of Software hacking will get you there either. It is beyond impossible.
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'sigh' even though I'm sick to the point of being bed bound, I still researched this for you. Do your home work before posting. Also, I know the difference between gsm and cdma. After over 400 posts on this site, it's remarkable how little credit you give me. But back to the point, there are cdma phones out there that have Sim slots, also known as world phones. It does depend on the hardware however. So a Sim slot =/= unlocked for domestic gsm use. Actually it never means that, because I've never come across a world phone that's already unlocked for domestic gsm. Usually you have to flash a new baseband to enable the radio to work properly (assuming the radio has the capability to run on your bands).
The thread is brewing as we speak. Maybe you guys would like to stir the pot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25127887
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'sigh' even though I'm sick to the point of being bed bound, I still researched this for you. Do your home work before posting. Also, I know the difference between gsm and cdma. After over 400 posts on this site, it's remarkable how little credit you give me. But back to the point, there are cdma phones out there that have Sim slots, also known as world phones. It does depend on the hardware however. So a Sim slot =/= unlocked for domestic gsm use. Actually it never means that, because I've never come across a world phone that's already unlocked for domestic gsm. Usually you have to flash a new baseband to enable the radio to work properly (assuming the radio has the capability to run on your bands).
The thread is brewing as we speak. Maybe you guys would like to stir the pot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25127887
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gtmaster303 said:
'sigh' even though I'm sick to the point of being bed bound, I still researched this for you. Do your home work before posting. Also, I know the difference between gsm and cdma. After over 400 posts on this site, it's remarkable how little credit you give me. But back to the point, there are cdma phones out there that have Sim slots, also known as world phones. It does depend on the hardware however. So a Sim slot =/= unlocked for domestic gsm use. Actually it never means that, because I've never come across a world phone that's already unlocked for domestic gsm. Usually you have to flash a new baseband to enable the radio to work properly (assuming the radio has the capability to run on your bands).
The thread is brewing as we speak. Maybe you guys would like to stir the pot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25127887
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Yes you are correct. It was just the way you said it I assumed you were trying to say you could make a CDMA only device a "World phone" by simply flashing a radio.
Apple saw the value in iPhones with CDMA, and Google owns Motorola Mobility so the push for the Droid team to branch out past Verizon might be just the kick start they need.
rdrrlabs said:
Apple saw the value in iPhones with CDMA, and Google owns Motorola Mobility so the push for the Droid team to branch out past Verizon might be just the kick start they need.
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Motorolla is in limbo - Google has repeatedly said they will not make a 'Google' branded hardware phone, they bought Motorolla for the patents. Most likely they will sell the hardware division of it off to Huwai (or however you spell it).
I wouldn't count on Motorolla making out from being a part of the Google empire, quite the opposite - they will be stripped of anything Google deems to be of value and what's left will be sold to the highest bidder.
Anyone here will jump to Z5/Z5C/Z5P?
Only if it comes to Tmobile..... then again, have to see how the camera is. If it's as good as they say it is, might just have to buy one unlocked.
If you can get an unlocked version that carries all t-mobile bands then I'll probably go with it. Otherwise I'm going nexus.
I think i will.
Finally a fingerprint sensor Xperia which i really wished for. Not sure if i go premium or standard. The standard is a setback on battery life though. But compared to premium im not sure how that will compare. If i can get 2 days on any of those two i will go premium probably. I will wait for review anyways and test it in the store.
Hope they have sorted the SD810 overheat.. It looks like they have done something..
BattsNotIncld said:
If you can get an unlocked version that carries all t-mobile bands then I'll probably go with it. Otherwise I'm going nexus.
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T-Mobile is asking OEM's to disable band 12 support, on non TMO approved phones, which is needed for good indoor reception. This is because VoLTE on 700 has to be certified separately by TMO, and unlocked phones without band 12 VoLTE support can't fall back to 4G when switching from data to cellular leading to no calls but with full signal, this could cause issues in emergencies in areas that only have band 12 (rare issue but could cause legal problems)
I will wait for z6 to buy z5
abhinav.tella said:
T-Mobile is asking OEM's to disable band 12 support, on non TMO approved phones, which is needed for good indoor reception. This is because VoLTE on 700 has to be certified separately by TMO, and unlocked phones without band 12 VoLTE support can't fall back to 4G when switching from data to cellular leading to no calls but with full signal and could cause issues in emergencies in areas that only have band 12 (rare issue but could cause legal problems)
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Thanks for the info. So pretty much any phone t-mobile doesn't officially carry will be unable to get band 12?
I just hope if they do carry it they don't lock down the bootloader. The Z3 is a great phone but I need my AOSP fix. Luckily I still have my old S3 to tinker with.
Here is the link to the article:
http://www.tmonews.com/2015/08/t-mo...n-situation-with-band-12-and-unlocked-phones/