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Ok, maybe this has been discussed, and maybe this is posted in the wrong forum (I was considering apps/themes). If so, I apologize, and please move my thread.
But during my years with android, there is one thing that has annoyed me, and it still does. The animation when flipping through homescreens is really cool, but it is not nearly as smooth as it should be (compare it to the iPhone). With my magic it looked awful, with my galaxy s it was almost comparable to an iphone app drawer, but still not what I would call silky smooth. With the nexus s, it seems I've taken a step back again. I've tried stock launcher, zeam, LP and ADW. I have not tried ADW EX yet because of some credit card issues. Is there something to be done about this? I mean, the phone should be more than capable hardware wise, and everything else is blazing fast (opening various apps, settings, the widget scrolling is smooth, games run perfectly and so on).
I've currently only tried out stock 2.3.1 and CM7 alpha 2 and alpha 2-2 (jan. 6th).
Anyone with any insight in whats causing it? Is there something I can do other than disable live wallpaper and wallpaper scrolling? Disabling those two is a small let down, because I really like the features. Or am I simply imagining it?
Sorry I have no insightful input, but I would like to say, no, you're not imagining it. This has been my experience with Android overall as well.
I am no fan of Apple's tight grips and dated OS, however, I know where credit is due and they deserve respect for what they do get right: namely, the screen and the touch interface. Something about it is just 'perfect' -- almost magical. It truly responds to every command you have, and this spills over not just with scrolling or hitting icons, but with typing, as well. Their keyboard (which I'm sure succeeds thanks to a combination of hardware and software) is second to none. I've been an avid critic of Android's keyboard experience in other threads. Anyone who has typed extensively on both platforms will know the difference. I can type (and use the screen) on an iPhone, even an iPod Touch, with confidence that it'll get what I mean to press. The same cannot be said for Android.
At the end of the day, it's a trade-off. I stick with Android for its customizations, open-ended potential, market, and because I am a user of everything Google -- it just makes sense to stick with Android. I also don't appreciate Apple's philosophy, which essentially comes down to: "the average user is an idiot," which isn't entirely untrue and, needless to say, is a philosophy that works wonders for them. It just isn't for me. However, I am and continue to be critical of Android. I do so out of the desire to see it improve. They close the gap with every iteration, but it would be dishonest to say that they've matched areas in which Apple excels in; one of them being responsive touchscreen and scrolling. You're not imagining it.
dingdonghei said:
Ok, maybe this has been discussed, and maybe this is posted in the wrong forum (I was considering apps/themes). If so, I apologize, and please move my thread.
But during my years with android, there is one thing that has annoyed me, and it still does. The animation when flipping through homescreens is really cool, but it is not nearly as smooth as it should be (compare it to the iPhone). With my magic it looked awful, with my galaxy s it was almost comparable to an iphone app drawer, but still not what I would call silky smooth. With the nexus s, it seems I've taken a step back again. I've tried stock launcher, zeam, LP and ADW. I have not tried ADW EX yet because of some credit card issues. Is there something to be done about this? I mean, the phone should be more than capable hardware wise, and everything else is blazing fast (opening various apps, settings, the widget scrolling is smooth, games run perfectly and so on).
I've currently only tried out stock 2.3.1 and CM7 alpha 2 and alpha 2-2 (jan. 6th).
Anyone with any insight in whats causing it? Is there something I can do other than disable live wallpaper and wallpaper scrolling? Disabling those two is a small let down, because I really like the features. Or am I simply imagining it?
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I've definitely noticed what you have.
Both ADW (I believe) and Launcher Pro have settings that can make it slightly smoother.
I use Launcher Pro on Bionix ROM 1.1 with stock kernel. In launcher pro, I have disabled "Advanced Settings"->"High Quality Scrolling" and it seems to be less laggy with screen scrolling.
The setting in ADW is "System Preferences"->"Scrolling Cache"->Low Quality.
The binoix rom definitely helps too.
Ye, just installed bionix and it's a bit better than cm actually. All the other tweaks, I've already configured. Still not like I would want it to be though. I'm wondering if it's that hard to actually make a smooth launcher. The guys making these launchers are doing an awesome job in all other aspects, so my guess is google isn't making it all that easy for them. The whole thing strikes me as weird, but hey, I haven't got even a small insight in developing for android.
@onthecouchagain I totally share your views on android. But I would never switch to an iPhone, it was just a comparison, because Apple really have that part nailed down.
EDIT: With bionix and OC on demand, I actually think the stock browser is smoother than ADW.
EDIT2: I've been thinking things through a bit, and the comparison with the iphone isn't entirely fair. The flexibility of the home screens by far superseede the iphone. I mean, basically the iphone only has an app drawer, and the app drawer is supersmooth on the NS. The home screens incorporate widgets that can be scrolled and update and all that, so I guess that takes up a lot more resources than an app drawer alone will. But still, the lag takes away from the user experience, and they really should try to improve it.
OP did you not find launcher pro extremely smoother over stock launcher? pretty sure LP is hitting up near 55 FPS for homescreen scrolls, stock launcher is much more choppy. in fact LP (and ADW somewhat, i find LP smoother) is buttery smooth scrolling i find. i believe LP uses more hardware graphics where stock launcher does not, that's why its smoother than stock.
however perhaps the nexus s is not yet configured with LP for its graphics? cause i know on all the other phones like nexus one and droid x, LP is insanely smoother over stock.
around 50-55 fps.
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OP did you not find launcher pro extremely smoother over stock launcher? pretty sure LP is hitting up near 55 FPS for homescreen scrolls, stock launcher is much more choppy. in fact LP (and ADW somewhat, i find LP smoother) is buttery smooth scrolling i find. i believe LP uses more hardware graphics where stock launcher does not, that's why its smoother than stock.
however perhaps the nexus s is not yet configured with LP for its graphics? cause i know on all the other phones like nexus one and droid x, LP is insanely smoother over stock.
around 50-55 fps.
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Yes, I'm aware of that, and was using LP on my galaxy s. However, on the NS it doesn't seem smooth at all. And for some reason it freezes up real bad from time to time as well, and requires a restart. This was on CM7 alpha, so it may be related to that.
Have you tried LP on the NS or other phones?
EDIT: Tried out LP on bionix now, and it's by far the best so far. Still not perfect, but very close. I think I've read that the LP still isn't optimized for GB, if thats true, it should be really good once it is. Now I just have to get my damn pay pal account working, so I can pay for LP.
On thing about LP though. The scrolling seems very smooth once the animation has started, but it always hangs a bit after you have started moving your thumb, if you get what I'm saying. It's like it takes some time before the launcher registers that you're swyping your thumb, and then starts the animation. I haven't found a setting for this. Anyone? I know I'm being very picky here, It's kind of an obsession for me
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Yes, I'm aware of that, and was using LP on my galaxy s. However, on the NS it doesn't seem smooth at all. And for some reason it freezes up real bad from time to time as well, and requires a restart. This was on CM7 alpha, so it may be related to that.
Have you tried LP on the NS or other phones?
EDIT: Tried out LP on bionix now, and it's by far the best so far. Still not perfect, but very close. I think I've read that the LP still isn't optimized for GB, if thats true, it should be really good once it is. Now I just have to get my damn pay pal account working, so I can pay for LP.
On thing about LP though. The scrolling seems very smooth once the animation has started, but it always hangs a bit after you have started moving your thumb, if you get what I'm saying. It's like it takes some time before the launcher registers that you're swyping your thumb, and then starts the animation. I haven't found a setting for this. Anyone? I know I'm being very picky here, It's kind of an obsession for me
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I got ya. What I'm thinking is that just like the nexus s is not optimized its video graphics in the browser for hummingbird, launcher pro also is hit by this bug and will need to wait for the driver fix from Google and Samsung. Currently its optimized for snapdragon so I'm thinking that's the problem.
For me on nexus s it works really smooth as long as I disable wallpaper scrolling... You can also check in advanced settings, clear cache on exit and play with other configs there, but disabling the wallpaper scrolling improves a lot...
Btw, on the Jobs phone, there is no wallpaper scrolling, widgets, and any other cool stuff we have in android, which also requires some work from CPU, something to think about...
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Btw, on the Jobs phone, there is no wallpaper scrolling, widgets, and any other cool stuff we have in android, which also requires some work from CPU, something to think about...
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Yeah, that's what I was pointing out in my last edit. But I still think it takes away from the overall user experience, and the avg user doesn't even think about what takes up CPU power, they just want fluidity and everything to work out of the box without having to be tweaked. And even though all the tweaking and options is what makes android so great, that shouldn't compromise user experience.
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Hello people !
I'm also a bit disappointed by the overall user experience provided by the Nexus S.
That laggy behavior is very disappointing.
My girlfriend's iPhone 3G is even smoother at switching from one homescreen to another.
I've been owning Android handsets for the past year and the half and I thought I would get rid of that laggy behavior with the Nexus S and Gingerbread.
Well, too bad for me... same ****, different day
Allright, so just a small update. In my neverending quest for smooth home screen scrolling I discovered a new launcher galled Go Launcher. And wouldnt you know, it's a lot better than anything else I've ever tried when it comes to home screen. Can't get much smoother than this. Not a big fan of the app drawer on that launcher though, but the launcher is a clear first choice for now.
guys234 said:
For me on nexus s it works really smooth as long as I disable wallpaper scrolling... You can also check in advanced settings, clear cache on exit and play with other configs there, but disabling the wallpaper scrolling improves a lot...
Btw, on the Jobs phone, there is no wallpaper scrolling, widgets, and any other cool stuff we have in android, which also requires some work from CPU, something to think about...
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Yeah except other android phones like my nexus one are smooth as butter with launcher pro. So it must be some issue with nexus s drivers.
We know there is a graphics problem with the nexus s browser, so its not a far stretch to have similar issues with other areas not being smooth.
dingdonghei said:
Allright, so just a small update. In my neverending quest for smooth home screen scrolling I discovered a new launcher galled Go Launcher. And wouldnt you know, it's a lot better than anything else I've ever tried when it comes to home screen. Can't get much smoother than this. Not a big fan of the app drawer on that launcher though, but the launcher is a clear first choice for now.
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Problem is : with Go launcher switching between homescreens is smoother, but switching between pages within the app drawer is insanely laggy.
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theophane said:
Problem is : with Go launcher switching between homescreens is smoother, but switching between pages within the app drawer is insanely laggy.
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Yep, I know. It's kinda annoying
guys234 said:
Btw, on the Jobs phone, there is no wallpaper scrolling, widgets, and any other cool stuff we have in android, which also requires some work from CPU, something to think about...
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Here is a fun test : remove everything you have on your homescreens and just leave one app icon. Switch between homescreens, and you'll notice that even with nothing on the desktop, performance is still crappy.
I guess that widgets have nothing to do with those lags.
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Adw on cm is smooth? Try to download eugene373 gingerbread launcher. Its file size is smaller and other benefits
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Yes, there is an occasionally happening swipe lag in the home launcher, browser and other application. It is like it missed a swipe. It is very annoying and I even had it with the ADW launcher EX. Reminds me of the bug on the Nexus One. There I had the same problem that often the first swipe on the home launcher wouldn't do anything. I can't believe that this missed swipe or lag however you wanna call it slipped through the testing. I am a bit disappointed because I haven't had any problems with the Sense UI on my MT4G and missed swipe or laggy swiping.
mine was laggy aswell, but once i rooted, did a full WIPE/CLEAN/DATA wipe and a factory reset it didnt lag anymore???
now its silky smooth, and applying the 1.2Ghz kernel did make the iphone look like a snail
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Adw on cm is smooth? Try to download eugene373 gingerbread launcher. Its file size is smaller and other benefits
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ADW on CM isn't smooth at all. Haven't tried out eugene's.
smaberg said:
mine was laggy aswell, but once i rooted, did a full WIPE/CLEAN/DATA wipe and a factory reset it didnt lag anymore???
now its silky smooth, and applying the 1.2Ghz kernel did make the iphone look like a snail
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Interesting. This is stock launcher you're talking about, I presume? I'll try it out.
Does any on suffer with the same thing when scrolling on xda forums? Its like the browser can't keep up and all squares appear for a second or so till it finally settles down. Most other websites are the OK although I have noticed it on other ones too. I've tried dolphin browser too but the same thing happens.
Seems like it happens sometimes, but I use XDA Premium
I get this too- parts of the screen will be blank for a second or two, especially when scrolling from quickly from one end to the other. I have the default set to display 50 posts per page- maybe it might be more responsive with less posts.
Thanks for the reply guys. It does seem better on a post like this which only has a couple of reply. I just wondered why it happens on this site and others are OK
it's not only the amounts of posts, but the ads that are everywhere. so far there is no adblocker for the stock browser and adfree is only for rooted devices. lagfree are xda or tapatalk apps.
Ive found a fix... kind of. Switching the theme to classic in user profiles makes the forums much more usable
Browsers defo need a fix. Ive tried miren - fc if you leave the page, dolphin mini not powerfull enough and jumpy, stock is ok but can just close randomly. Im using dolphin hd which is an improvement but even oc and the custom roms dont remedy it completely but definately much much better.
Can only put it down to a bug. My sgs 2 does the same, my gtab done it until the devs sorted it out.
Classic view certainly is better - cheers for that
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Browsers defo need a fix. Ive tried miren - fc if you leave the page, dolphin mini not powerfull enough and jumpy, stock is ok but can just close randomly. Im using dolphin hd which is an improvement but even oc and the custom roms dont remedy it completely but definately much much better.
Can only put it down to a bug. My sgs 2 does the same, my gtab done it until the devs sorted it out.
Classic view certainly is better - cheers for that
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I agree it could do with a fix. Tonight I tried my cousins Ipad 1 and although it wasn't perfect it handled this forum better than our dual core tegra machines do. What was even more annoying was Google maps in street map mode was smoother at looking around than ours. Come on Google sort it out!
rob77 said:
Ive found a fix... kind of. Switching the theme to classic in user profiles makes the forums much more usable
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Yeah, changing the style to "XDA Classic" (bottom left) helps a lot.
rob77 said:
Ive found a fix... kind of. Switching the theme to classic in user profiles makes the forums much more usable
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Yeah, changing the style to "XDA Classic" (bottom left) helps a lot.
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nice find, will give it a try!
scottyf79 said:
Browsers defo need a fix. Ive tried miren - fc if you leave the page, dolphin mini not powerfull enough and jumpy, stock is ok but can just close randomly. Im using dolphin hd which is an improvement but even oc and the custom roms dont remedy it completely but definately much much better.
Can only put it down to a bug. My sgs 2 does the same, my gtab done it until the devs sorted it out.
Classic view certainly is better - cheers for that
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have you tried Dolphin for Pad or whatever it's called? There seems to be a tablet version of Dolphin Browser but if I remember correctly it was still beta. should be on the market though.
I prefer to browse xda using Tapatalk, but if you must use a browser for everything I suggest using Opera Mobile. The scrolling in Opera is a little choppy at times, but I almost never get blank areas on the pages while scrolling.
Bear in mind that much of these issues are due to the fact that most webpages these days have way more content and ads than mobile devices are designed to handle. Web developers need to learn to exercise some restraint and simplify their pages. I say stop visiting websites that are bogging down or crashing your device.
Sense crashes on me constantly. I tried the fix suggested where you go unclick the activities setting in the development area, to no avail. Can any Cleanrom users tell me if this is problem for you (AT&T) after you rooted and installed CR on your phone?
What do you mean by crashing? Is it force closing or just reloading (get the loading circle)
If its reloading its because of HTC setting aggressive memory management.
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I could have worded that better - I mean to say that HTC sense, on my vanilla AT&T rom, goes down a lot, and when you press the home button, it says "loading" for upwards of 20 seconds.
I followed the instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1599214, however while this seems to fix it for some folks, it does not fix it for others. It's still happening to me, sadly.
I am considering returning this for a SGIII, but I got to wondering if I root it and install CleanRom, maybe that fixes the issue to, in addition to removing the AT&T bloat.
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I could have worded that better - I mean to say that HTC sense, on my vanilla AT&T rom, goes down a lot, and when you press the home button, it says "loading" for upwards of 20 seconds.
I followed the instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1599214, however while this seems to fix it for some folks, it does not fix it for others. It's still happening to me, sadly.
I am considering returning this for a SGIII, but I got to wondering if I root it and install CleanRom, maybe that fixes the issue to, in addition to removing the AT&T bloat.
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That would be the aggressive management that HTC put into the phone same reason that the browser reloads the page after you close it.
If you find a ROM that locks sense into the memory then it should solve that.
I only have the t3 hox so I can't recommend any for at&t
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bumping, in case some Cleanrom users can reply. I got really frustrated yesterday - set up my screens and launcher and folders all nice, just the way I like them, nad Sense reloaded - all of a sudden, the screens I had removed were back, my icons were all over the place, and my folders were not on the home screen. Super frustrating!
Hold on, it actually goes back to default layout after reloading as well?
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lawrence750 said:
Hold on, it actually goes back to default layout after reloading as well?
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Almost - I had five screens again, my folders were all bumped to the last screen (so I had to move them back to the home screen before I could delete the extra screens), and a bunch of icons appeared out of nowhere, all over the place. So, it didn't go back to default but it did jack everything up.
It may be something that never comes up because most people do not remove all the extra screens.
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bumping, in case some Cleanrom users can reply. I got really frustrated yesterday - set up my screens and launcher and folders all nice, just the way I like them, nad Sense reloaded - all of a sudden, the screens I had removed were back, my icons were all over the place, and my folders were not on the home screen. Super frustrating!
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I doubt you're going to get many replies from CleanROM users over here, since you've posted this in the international (Tegra 3) subforums and CleanROM is for S4 devices so no-one here will be using it. You'd probably get a better response asking here (or you could maybe ask a mod to shift the thread for you).
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I doubt you're going to get many replies from CleanROM users over here, since you've posted this in the international (Tegra 3) subforums and CleanROM is for S4 devices so no-one here will be using it. You'd probably get a better response asking here (or you could maybe ask a mod to shift the thread for you).
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WHOOPS! Thank you for pointing it out to me!
Well hello Welcome to the correct forums xD
CleanROM has many multitasking improvements, from what I've read, so it should help quite a bit.
And if you still don't like the multitasking, AOSP based ROMs such as CM9 or AOKP have perfect multitasking (I've been able to get up to 7 apps running with AOKP)
CleanROM 4.1
Using the latest version of CleanROM on the AT&T One X, I have none of the issues that you speak of. Multitasking is night-and-day (granted that you flashed the multitasking mod in the AROMA installer), battery life is stellar, and everything is rock-solid stable.
I've never seen sense reload on me but I don't play games much. Are you a big gamer? I've been using clean rom since it was introduced.
I haven't had Sense reload on me once since flashing CleanROM a month and a half ago. I play a ton of RAM heavy games too like NOVA 3 and as I said, not once has it happened.
I mostly use the web on mine, Google Music, and a couple minor games like Words By Post and Temple Run. Thank you all for the replies, this makes me feel a bit more hopeful. I'm a bit anti-Samsung at the moment, so I am glad to hear that maybe flashing a ROM will fix my problems. I was pretty close to just returning it.
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I mostly use the web on mine, Google Music, and a couple minor games like Words By Post and Temple Run. Thank you all for the replies, this makes me feel a bit more hopeful. I'm a bit anti-Samsung at the moment, so I am glad to hear that maybe flashing a ROM will fix my problems. I was pretty close to just returning it.
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Trust me man, flash CleanROM and you will fall in love with your HOX. The ROM is amazing and the dev is awesome. It is the way HTC should have shipped these things.
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What do you think, what is enhanced, what is ruined?
For begining, I want to say that i love new Sense Keyboard.
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This should be put in sticky jb thread this is gonna be locked
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This should be put in sticky jb thread this is gonna be locked
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Sticky JB thread done its job...
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It's still doing its job and as the mods have stated over and over..any jb conversations go there don't start a New thread
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Caller photo quality is OK how but photo is still small. Have the same size as before...
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Has someone got VILLE C2 Jelly Bean Update????
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Has someone got VILLE C2 Jelly Bean Update????
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Thanks, dude, I couldn't see the other posts, they are so tiny, you are literally my savior
On topic: No, S3 users will probably get it 2-3 weeks later, maybe more.
I saw, that some users reported having a brick with SuperCID, is this true?
Because I don't want to change my CID back and stuff
Busybox
Hi
Just updated via OTA, reinstalled CWM_Recovery and installed superSU 0.99.
Phone is rooted once again but it seems like busybox is unable to install, tried a few different versions and none seem to stick, a few even causes a crash/reboot of the phone.
Have a few programs that are reliant on Busybox to function.
Am i the only one with this problem ?
I think the update is rubbish. If anything its not as smooth as the Ics update, project butter must be a vanilla only experience because there is no way it's buttery smooth
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I'm really annoyed about the new keyboard layout which was an utterly unnecessary change. Not to mention that the keyboard is somewhat laggy. Apart from that it's fine and I could live with it if I would get back full root functionality.
By the way, has anyone solved their root issues (SuperSU, Busybox, and a couple other apps and tools not working) yet?
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Hi
Just updated via OTA, reinstalled CWM_Recovery and installed superSU 0.99.
Phone is rooted once again but it seems like busybox is unable to install, tried a few different versions and none seem to stick, a few even causes a crash/reboot of the phone.
Have a few programs that are reliant on Busybox to function.
Am i the only one with this problem ?
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Nope I'm also having the same issues. After reading over the superSU thread it seems like HTC have done something to prevent system changes so it's basically a case of waiting until some devs find a work around
Is there an app to reorder the notifications in the notificationbar? I have 2 apps as trigger and new notifications are in the middle of these apps. I want new notifications at bottom.
Haven't got the update yet, but I'd like to know if they solved the touchbutton issue? And does USB OTG work now without extra cables? The only 2 things I'm missing.
Touch button issue is better so far but cannot say for sure that it is fixed, since now we have the Google now issue but not as frequently as before.
The new issue for me after the update is that the hands-free control is not customisable through apps after update, only single click function works for me, no track skipping or volume control
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The worst update I've made on any phone....ever!
I need to downgrade ASAP, however, because I'm a relative noob and I'm unrooted I need some assistance. Any advice will be appreciated.
Just installed and had 10 minutes with it. To me my phone definitely seems a little quicker and more responsive, might just be me being excited about new stuff though! I use Swiftkey so never touch the Sense keyboard, I just gave the new one a quick go and switched back to Swiftkey, I can type on it almost as quick as a real keyboard so it would take something amazing to shift me from it. I like what I see of Google Now so far, we'll see how it pans out though. The camera changes seem good, fairly subtle differences but I think it's quicker too. I like the power saver mode, think that will be a useful one. Switching off data when the screen is off is a great feature.
So far, so good.
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Just installed and had 10 minutes with it. To me my phone definitely seems a little quicker and more responsive, might just be me being excited about new stuff though! I use Swiftkey so never touch the Sense keyboard, I just gave the new one a quick go and switched back to Swiftkey, I can type on it almost as quick as a real keyboard so it would take something amazing to shift me from it. I like what I see of Google Now so far, we'll see how it pans out though. The camera changes seem good, fairly subtle differences but I think it's quicker too. I like the power saver mode, think that will be a useful one. Switching off data when the screen is off is a great feature.
So far, so good.
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Which processor do you have? S3 or S4? And have you played any games on it? Subway Surfer was quite quick and smooth on ICS, with Jellybean it's like a buffering movie on one of them crappy Chinese servers....
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Which processor do you have? S3 or S4? And have you played any games on it? Subway Surfer was quite quick and smooth on ICS, with Jellybean it's like a buffering movie on one of them crappy Chinese servers....
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I noticed that! Subway surfer was laggy on the JB update. Restored my ICS rom and it's smooth as butter. WTF! And it's bound to be s4 because the s3 doesn't have it yet
I am pretty fond of the new No-Lockscreen option. Something I have missed from the AOSP versions, probably the only reason I will stick with sense on JB.
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Just installed and had 10 minutes with it. To me my phone definitely seems a little quicker and more responsive, might just be me being excited about new stuff though! I use Swiftkey so never touch the Sense keyboard, I just gave the new one a quick go and switched back to Swiftkey, I can type on it almost as quick as a real keyboard so it would take something amazing to shift me from it. I like what I see of Google Now so far, we'll see how it pans out though. The camera changes seem good, fairly subtle differences but I think it's quicker too. I like the power saver mode, think that will be a useful one. Switching off data when the screen is off is a great feature.
So far, so good.
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Not sure, but since data is off while screen off, how come I receive my whatsapp messages, emails n stuff? I am just curious, since I read about power saver a while ago in One X forum, but forgot that and you reminded it to me.
P.s: I have power saver on since the update
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I went from the HTC One to this, and I am a little disappointed here. The HTC One was beautiful, great, etc, but I went with this phone for a a more future proof reason. The thing I am confused about is how is this phone lagging? The One did not lag, and I am not by any means trying to start up a debate between the two, but why does this phone lag? Anybody experiencing odd lag? (opening closing apps have a hiccup, widgets, scrolling)
The screen seems to have a good amount of ghosting, but I assume that is because this is a PenTile super saturated screen, so it won't be as smooth movement as an LCD screen. (I freakin' love this screen, by the way)
Also, Samsung, I know if I raise the volume it could possible damage my ears, quit popping a message up every time I do this.
Also...
For the stock browser and Chrome, the screen slightly dims itself upon opening, doesn't do it with Firefox though.
Small things, small gripes. These small grips bothering anyone else?
It seems odd, this is my first Samsung device, but it seems like it's not a consistent experience. It just launched, I know, but I did not think one of the big brands would have these issues.
SkriblZz said:
I went from the HTC One to this, and I am a little disappointed here. The HTC One was beautiful, great, etc, but I went with this phone for a a more future proof reason. The thing I am confused about is how is this phone lagging? The One did not lag, and I am not by any means trying to start up a debate between the two, but why does this phone lag? Anybody experiencing odd lag? (opening closing apps have a hiccup, widgets, scrolling)
The screen seems to have a good amount of ghosting, but I assume that is because this is a PenTile super saturated screen, so it won't be as smooth movement as an LCD screen. (I freakin' love this screen, by the way)
Also, Samsung, I know if I raise the volume it could possible damage my ears, quit popping a message up every time I do this.
Also...
For the stock browser and Chrome, the screen slightly dims itself upon opening, doesn't do it with Firefox though.
Small things, small gripes. These small grips bothering anyone else?
It seems odd, this is my first Samsung device, but it seems like it's not a consistent experience. It just launched, I know, but I did not think one of the big brands would have these issues.
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unfortunately, yes
result of all the heavy touchwiz & bloat, i would assume.
SkriblZz said:
I went from the HTC One to this, and I am a little disappointed here. The HTC One was beautiful, great, etc, but I went with this phone for a a more future proof reason. The thing I am confused about is how is this phone lagging? The One did not lag, and I am not by any means trying to start up a debate between the two, but why does this phone lag? Anybody experiencing odd lag? (opening closing apps have a hiccup, widgets, scrolling)
The screen seems to have a good amount of ghosting, but I assume that is because this is a PenTile super saturated screen, so it won't be as smooth movement as an LCD screen. (I freakin' love this screen, by the way)
Also, Samsung, I know if I raise the volume it could possible damage my ears, quit popping a message up every time I do this.
Also...
For the stock browser and Chrome, the screen slightly dims itself upon opening, doesn't do it with Firefox though.
Small things, small gripes. These small grips bothering anyone else?
It seems odd, this is my first Samsung device, but it seems like it's not a consistent experience. It just launched, I know, but I did not think one of the big brands would have these issues.
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Bah, I'm in the wrong section, could a mod please move?
SkriblZz said:
Bah, I'm in the wrong section, could a mod please move?
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Also, there are several threads with this subject in them already. Please use the search function to help learn more about the problem you are experiencing.
Yup, bloatware. My Galaxy S3 running CM 10.1 was FAST. Patiently waiting.
well htc one is in android 2.1 now it may have the same problem when you upgrade to 4.2 I guess .
To solve the lag, you may turn on Force Gpu option in developer setting, but it causes battery.
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uclaxiwen said:
well htc one is in android 2.1 now it may have the same problem when you upgrade to 4.2 I guess .
To solve the lag, you may turn on Force Gpu option in developer setting, but it causes battery.
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That did nothing, but I changed the animations to 0.5x and they go so quick, I don't notice it anymore. I sincerely hope that Samsung/AT&T push out something to fix this, I don't feel like a phone with an overclocked Snapdragon 600 should be going through this.
Set animations to zero and the phone will be even quicker. You won't miss a thing. Good luck.
The lag is very bad. It really makes me wanna throw this device against the wall. Coming from an S3 and Note 2 this feels like a huge downgrade, seriously.
I do know though that now that the boot loader has been unlocked, developers can start making custom roms. That and I know there will be many updates. The lag will not last forever.
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martinezma99 said:
Set animations to zero and the phone will be even quicker. You won't miss a thing. Good luck.
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That doesn't do anything. The browser, messaging app, and gallery all lag within. Samsung needs to properly optimize their software for the Snapdragon 600.
If your using Nova launcher, go to Nova Settings - Look and Feel - App Animations. Change it to ICS or slide. This has removed any stutter for me with the opening and closing app transitions.
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americasteam said:
If your using Nova launcher, go to Nova Settings - Look and Feel - App Animations. Change it to ICS or slide. This has removed any stutter for me with the opening and closing app transitions.
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You guys aren't addressing his main problem. He's upset about lag within the apps themselves.
To Op, just be patient and either Samsung or devs here will address it. It's clearly software related.
Also, the screen darkening happens if you have certain battery saving things turned on. Is your energy saver on?
theraker007 said:
You guys aren't addressing his main problem. He's upset about lag within the apps themselves.
To Op, just be patient and either Samsung or devs here will address it. It's clearly software related.
Also, the screen darkening happens if you have certain battery saving things turned on. Is your energy saver on?
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I think he's concerned about a few things. Stuttering as I mentioned before. He mentions opening and closing apps have a hiccup. See below.
SkriblZz said:
I went from the HTC One to this, and I am a little disappointed here. The HTC One was beautiful, great, etc, but I went with this phone for a a more future proof reason. The thing I am confused about is how is this phone lagging? The One did not lag, and I am not by any means trying to start up a debate between the two, but why does this phone lag? Anybody experiencing odd lag? (opening closing apps have a hiccup, widgets, scrolling)
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theraker007 said:
You guys aren't addressing his main problem. He's upset about lag within the apps themselves.
To Op, just be patient and either Samsung or devs here will address it. It's clearly software related.
Also, the screen darkening happens if you have certain battery saving things turned on. Is your energy saver on?
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I've completely disabled any energy saving, even auto adjust screen tone. This happens only with Chrome and stock browsers. It's a light dimming from brightness being full, seemed odd.
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I think he's concerned about a few things. Stuttering as I mentioned before. He mentions opening and closing apps have a hiccup. See below.
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Yes, you're right. They have an odd stutter. The sad thing is, we shouldn't have to do anything to stop this from happening. lol
Also, the stutters happen even when opening/closing/navigating the settings, and I saw it stutter a few times closing the app drawer, that one surprised me.
How do you guys feel about the ghosting/tracers on text or objects when moving quickly?
Oh wow, Force GPU actually did it for me. Thanks! Lol
americasteam said:
I think he's concerned about a few things. Stuttering as I mentioned before. He mentions opening and closing apps have a hiccup. See below.
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The whole thing stutters pretty bad. Can't wait for the bootloader unlock an roms.
Pretty rare to see a guy from BG KY on the boards.
Yeah turned on force gpu, unchecksd all power saver options just incase and it helps
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A couple of quick suggestions:
-Hard Reset when you get the phone. A few people have commented that after a re-flash the phone runs smoother
-disable animations and the screen unlock ripples/light BS. The ripple caused issues with the GS3, so this is just an assumption on my part.
-Force GPU helps
-Freeze and apps especially bloat you don't use.
-Since this seems to be a common issue for everyone, I would hope that Samsung/Att will have a small update in the coming months. I will not hold my breathe though.
iceman4357 said:
A couple of quick suggestions:
-Hard Reset when you get the phone. A few people have commented that after a re-flash the phone runs smoother
-disable animations and the screen unlock ripples/light BS. The ripple caused issues with the GS3, so this is just an assumption on my part.
-Force GPU helps
-Freeze and apps especially bloat you don't use.
-Since this seems to be a common issue for everyone, I would hope that Samsung/Att will have a small update in the coming months. I will not hold my breathe though.
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This actually does help a lot to reduce the lag.. Did this a few days ago and it has def helped!
I felt the same way about my S3 for a long time until I finally flashed tasks AOKP with ktoonz kernel.
For reference, I think the size of the stock rom on the s4 is somewhere around two gigs as opposed to tasks AOKP which was around 500 or 600 MB's.
I haven't even activated my S4 yet because of the frustration I know I would endure when switching between apps, or texting, or pretty much doing anything.
My S3 is RIDICULOUSLY fast now so I have the utmost confidence that once the Verizon phone is out and the ROMs start rolling in, all the lag will be gone once you get away from TouchWiz.
[edit] Task I see you lurking around the S4 boards. I don't know what it all means, but I LIKE it!!!
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This poster on a Rogers S4 claims he received a factory update that help the performance of his phone...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40960338&postcount=72
Maybe AT&T will push a similar update to help with performance issues.