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[Q] Launcher and home screen smoothness

Ok, maybe this has been discussed, and maybe this is posted in the wrong forum (I was considering apps/themes). If so, I apologize, and please move my thread.
But during my years with android, there is one thing that has annoyed me, and it still does. The animation when flipping through homescreens is really cool, but it is not nearly as smooth as it should be (compare it to the iPhone). With my magic it looked awful, with my galaxy s it was almost comparable to an iphone app drawer, but still not what I would call silky smooth. With the nexus s, it seems I've taken a step back again. I've tried stock launcher, zeam, LP and ADW. I have not tried ADW EX yet because of some credit card issues. Is there something to be done about this? I mean, the phone should be more than capable hardware wise, and everything else is blazing fast (opening various apps, settings, the widget scrolling is smooth, games run perfectly and so on).
I've currently only tried out stock 2.3.1 and CM7 alpha 2 and alpha 2-2 (jan. 6th).
Anyone with any insight in whats causing it? Is there something I can do other than disable live wallpaper and wallpaper scrolling? Disabling those two is a small let down, because I really like the features. Or am I simply imagining it?

Sorry I have no insightful input, but I would like to say, no, you're not imagining it. This has been my experience with Android overall as well.
I am no fan of Apple's tight grips and dated OS, however, I know where credit is due and they deserve respect for what they do get right: namely, the screen and the touch interface. Something about it is just 'perfect' -- almost magical. It truly responds to every command you have, and this spills over not just with scrolling or hitting icons, but with typing, as well. Their keyboard (which I'm sure succeeds thanks to a combination of hardware and software) is second to none. I've been an avid critic of Android's keyboard experience in other threads. Anyone who has typed extensively on both platforms will know the difference. I can type (and use the screen) on an iPhone, even an iPod Touch, with confidence that it'll get what I mean to press. The same cannot be said for Android.
At the end of the day, it's a trade-off. I stick with Android for its customizations, open-ended potential, market, and because I am a user of everything Google -- it just makes sense to stick with Android. I also don't appreciate Apple's philosophy, which essentially comes down to: "the average user is an idiot," which isn't entirely untrue and, needless to say, is a philosophy that works wonders for them. It just isn't for me. However, I am and continue to be critical of Android. I do so out of the desire to see it improve. They close the gap with every iteration, but it would be dishonest to say that they've matched areas in which Apple excels in; one of them being responsive touchscreen and scrolling. You're not imagining it.

dingdonghei said:
Ok, maybe this has been discussed, and maybe this is posted in the wrong forum (I was considering apps/themes). If so, I apologize, and please move my thread.
But during my years with android, there is one thing that has annoyed me, and it still does. The animation when flipping through homescreens is really cool, but it is not nearly as smooth as it should be (compare it to the iPhone). With my magic it looked awful, with my galaxy s it was almost comparable to an iphone app drawer, but still not what I would call silky smooth. With the nexus s, it seems I've taken a step back again. I've tried stock launcher, zeam, LP and ADW. I have not tried ADW EX yet because of some credit card issues. Is there something to be done about this? I mean, the phone should be more than capable hardware wise, and everything else is blazing fast (opening various apps, settings, the widget scrolling is smooth, games run perfectly and so on).
I've currently only tried out stock 2.3.1 and CM7 alpha 2 and alpha 2-2 (jan. 6th).
Anyone with any insight in whats causing it? Is there something I can do other than disable live wallpaper and wallpaper scrolling? Disabling those two is a small let down, because I really like the features. Or am I simply imagining it?
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I've definitely noticed what you have.
Both ADW (I believe) and Launcher Pro have settings that can make it slightly smoother.
I use Launcher Pro on Bionix ROM 1.1 with stock kernel. In launcher pro, I have disabled "Advanced Settings"->"High Quality Scrolling" and it seems to be less laggy with screen scrolling.
The setting in ADW is "System Preferences"->"Scrolling Cache"->Low Quality.
The binoix rom definitely helps too.

Ye, just installed bionix and it's a bit better than cm actually. All the other tweaks, I've already configured. Still not like I would want it to be though. I'm wondering if it's that hard to actually make a smooth launcher. The guys making these launchers are doing an awesome job in all other aspects, so my guess is google isn't making it all that easy for them. The whole thing strikes me as weird, but hey, I haven't got even a small insight in developing for android.
@onthecouchagain I totally share your views on android. But I would never switch to an iPhone, it was just a comparison, because Apple really have that part nailed down.
EDIT: With bionix and OC on demand, I actually think the stock browser is smoother than ADW.
EDIT2: I've been thinking things through a bit, and the comparison with the iphone isn't entirely fair. The flexibility of the home screens by far superseede the iphone. I mean, basically the iphone only has an app drawer, and the app drawer is supersmooth on the NS. The home screens incorporate widgets that can be scrolled and update and all that, so I guess that takes up a lot more resources than an app drawer alone will. But still, the lag takes away from the user experience, and they really should try to improve it.

OP did you not find launcher pro extremely smoother over stock launcher? pretty sure LP is hitting up near 55 FPS for homescreen scrolls, stock launcher is much more choppy. in fact LP (and ADW somewhat, i find LP smoother) is buttery smooth scrolling i find. i believe LP uses more hardware graphics where stock launcher does not, that's why its smoother than stock.
however perhaps the nexus s is not yet configured with LP for its graphics? cause i know on all the other phones like nexus one and droid x, LP is insanely smoother over stock.
around 50-55 fps.

RogerPodacter said:
OP did you not find launcher pro extremely smoother over stock launcher? pretty sure LP is hitting up near 55 FPS for homescreen scrolls, stock launcher is much more choppy. in fact LP (and ADW somewhat, i find LP smoother) is buttery smooth scrolling i find. i believe LP uses more hardware graphics where stock launcher does not, that's why its smoother than stock.
however perhaps the nexus s is not yet configured with LP for its graphics? cause i know on all the other phones like nexus one and droid x, LP is insanely smoother over stock.
around 50-55 fps.
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Yes, I'm aware of that, and was using LP on my galaxy s. However, on the NS it doesn't seem smooth at all. And for some reason it freezes up real bad from time to time as well, and requires a restart. This was on CM7 alpha, so it may be related to that.
Have you tried LP on the NS or other phones?
EDIT: Tried out LP on bionix now, and it's by far the best so far. Still not perfect, but very close. I think I've read that the LP still isn't optimized for GB, if thats true, it should be really good once it is. Now I just have to get my damn pay pal account working, so I can pay for LP.
On thing about LP though. The scrolling seems very smooth once the animation has started, but it always hangs a bit after you have started moving your thumb, if you get what I'm saying. It's like it takes some time before the launcher registers that you're swyping your thumb, and then starts the animation. I haven't found a setting for this. Anyone? I know I'm being very picky here, It's kind of an obsession for me

dingdonghei said:
Yes, I'm aware of that, and was using LP on my galaxy s. However, on the NS it doesn't seem smooth at all. And for some reason it freezes up real bad from time to time as well, and requires a restart. This was on CM7 alpha, so it may be related to that.
Have you tried LP on the NS or other phones?
EDIT: Tried out LP on bionix now, and it's by far the best so far. Still not perfect, but very close. I think I've read that the LP still isn't optimized for GB, if thats true, it should be really good once it is. Now I just have to get my damn pay pal account working, so I can pay for LP.
On thing about LP though. The scrolling seems very smooth once the animation has started, but it always hangs a bit after you have started moving your thumb, if you get what I'm saying. It's like it takes some time before the launcher registers that you're swyping your thumb, and then starts the animation. I haven't found a setting for this. Anyone? I know I'm being very picky here, It's kind of an obsession for me
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I got ya. What I'm thinking is that just like the nexus s is not optimized its video graphics in the browser for hummingbird, launcher pro also is hit by this bug and will need to wait for the driver fix from Google and Samsung. Currently its optimized for snapdragon so I'm thinking that's the problem.

For me on nexus s it works really smooth as long as I disable wallpaper scrolling... You can also check in advanced settings, clear cache on exit and play with other configs there, but disabling the wallpaper scrolling improves a lot...
Btw, on the Jobs phone, there is no wallpaper scrolling, widgets, and any other cool stuff we have in android, which also requires some work from CPU, something to think about...
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guys234 said:
Btw, on the Jobs phone, there is no wallpaper scrolling, widgets, and any other cool stuff we have in android, which also requires some work from CPU, something to think about...
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Yeah, that's what I was pointing out in my last edit. But I still think it takes away from the overall user experience, and the avg user doesn't even think about what takes up CPU power, they just want fluidity and everything to work out of the box without having to be tweaked. And even though all the tweaking and options is what makes android so great, that shouldn't compromise user experience.
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Hello people !
I'm also a bit disappointed by the overall user experience provided by the Nexus S.
That laggy behavior is very disappointing.
My girlfriend's iPhone 3G is even smoother at switching from one homescreen to another.
I've been owning Android handsets for the past year and the half and I thought I would get rid of that laggy behavior with the Nexus S and Gingerbread.
Well, too bad for me... same ****, different day

Allright, so just a small update. In my neverending quest for smooth home screen scrolling I discovered a new launcher galled Go Launcher. And wouldnt you know, it's a lot better than anything else I've ever tried when it comes to home screen. Can't get much smoother than this. Not a big fan of the app drawer on that launcher though, but the launcher is a clear first choice for now.

guys234 said:
For me on nexus s it works really smooth as long as I disable wallpaper scrolling... You can also check in advanced settings, clear cache on exit and play with other configs there, but disabling the wallpaper scrolling improves a lot...
Btw, on the Jobs phone, there is no wallpaper scrolling, widgets, and any other cool stuff we have in android, which also requires some work from CPU, something to think about...
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Yeah except other android phones like my nexus one are smooth as butter with launcher pro. So it must be some issue with nexus s drivers.
We know there is a graphics problem with the nexus s browser, so its not a far stretch to have similar issues with other areas not being smooth.

dingdonghei said:
Allright, so just a small update. In my neverending quest for smooth home screen scrolling I discovered a new launcher galled Go Launcher. And wouldnt you know, it's a lot better than anything else I've ever tried when it comes to home screen. Can't get much smoother than this. Not a big fan of the app drawer on that launcher though, but the launcher is a clear first choice for now.
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Problem is : with Go launcher switching between homescreens is smoother, but switching between pages within the app drawer is insanely laggy.
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theophane said:
Problem is : with Go launcher switching between homescreens is smoother, but switching between pages within the app drawer is insanely laggy.
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Yep, I know. It's kinda annoying

guys234 said:
Btw, on the Jobs phone, there is no wallpaper scrolling, widgets, and any other cool stuff we have in android, which also requires some work from CPU, something to think about...
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Here is a fun test : remove everything you have on your homescreens and just leave one app icon. Switch between homescreens, and you'll notice that even with nothing on the desktop, performance is still crappy.
I guess that widgets have nothing to do with those lags.
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Adw on cm is smooth? Try to download eugene373 gingerbread launcher. Its file size is smaller and other benefits
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Yes, there is an occasionally happening swipe lag in the home launcher, browser and other application. It is like it missed a swipe. It is very annoying and I even had it with the ADW launcher EX. Reminds me of the bug on the Nexus One. There I had the same problem that often the first swipe on the home launcher wouldn't do anything. I can't believe that this missed swipe or lag however you wanna call it slipped through the testing. I am a bit disappointed because I haven't had any problems with the Sense UI on my MT4G and missed swipe or laggy swiping.

mine was laggy aswell, but once i rooted, did a full WIPE/CLEAN/DATA wipe and a factory reset it didnt lag anymore???
now its silky smooth, and applying the 1.2Ghz kernel did make the iphone look like a snail

hansmrtn said:
Adw on cm is smooth? Try to download eugene373 gingerbread launcher. Its file size is smaller and other benefits
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ADW on CM isn't smooth at all. Haven't tried out eugene's.

smaberg said:
mine was laggy aswell, but once i rooted, did a full WIPE/CLEAN/DATA wipe and a factory reset it didnt lag anymore???
now its silky smooth, and applying the 1.2Ghz kernel did make the iphone look like a snail
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Interesting. This is stock launcher you're talking about, I presume? I'll try it out.

Problems with droid charge?

Anyone having performance issues with their charge? I had high expectations for this phone but im getting lag in just about everything. . IE this forum scrolling through threads is way laggy compared to fascinate. Im not sure if I have a bunk phone or if the hardware sucks or if its the ROM just sucks. Any hope for this phone?

No I'm noticing some laggy browsing as well. Coming from the Droid Incredible i figured this would be much quicker. At times I think 3g on it was faster than wifi on this. Im sure it'll speed up once the cache builds up for the sites i browse. I also notice my linpack and quadrant scores are pants on this. I would love root and a new kernel but that damn ota seems to be holding us back.

My guess is its the charge's browser. I read reviews where it has bad problems with sites with a lot of flash (such as the ads). just tried this site on both the stock browser and dolphin browser and dolphin browser works fine.
It was nearly unreadable on the stock browser. So try a browser from the market.

ShotgunSam said:
My guess is its the charge's browser. I read reviews where it has bad problems with sites with a lot of flash (such as the ads). just tried this site on both the stock browser and dolphin browser and dolphin browser works fine.
It was nearly unreadable on the stock browser. So try a browser from the market.
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You're right, browsing on Dolphin seems much faster. It does still hang at the end but it isn't nearly as bad.
Also, while I know its a completely different phone from what I had, the keyboard and auto-correct drive me absolutely mental.

Auto correct can be turned off in menu->settings->keyboard
I just noticed that I have two burnt out pixels .. ack. bright red dots, mostly noticeable on boot screens.

I think it's the ROM. Everything seems sluggish / lags randomly on my charge. So far it really feels like touchwiz is to blame, but I imagine the filesystem is partially to blame.
It really sucks that my year old Incredible seems faster than a brand new "flagship" phone.

I removed alot of bloatware installed launcher pro and Opera mini, then I also removed Touch wiz and the phone is alot faster. Installing launcher pro and then removing/renaming the touch wiz apk made a big difference performance wise. I have no lag when using the interface now. And yes the stock browser is crap, I thought it was the phone as well, but after installing Opera I notice a big difference.

what exactly does the TouchWiz app do? What do you lose by freezing it?

ShotgunSam said:
what exactly does the TouchWiz app do? What do you lose by freezing it?
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TouchWiz is Samsung's launcher. Do NOT freeze or remove it before downloading an alternative (such as LauncherPro) and rebooting to activate it. Otherwise ODIN will be in your immediate future.
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NotATreoFan said:
TouchWiz is Samsung's launcher. Do NOT freeze or remove it before downloading an alternative (such as LauncherPro) and rebooting to activate it. Otherwise ODIN will be in your immediate future.
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Oh Okay, well, I have to ODIN anyways if I decide to root, I had not read the forums yet before accepting ED2 the day I got the phone. I use LauncherPro anyways, but that's good to know.

NotATreoFan said:
TouchWiz is Samsung's launcher. Do NOT freeze or remove it before downloading an alternative (such as LauncherPro) and rebooting to activate it. Otherwise ODIN will be in your immediate future.
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yes, that happened to me earlier today! hahaha.

Just picked up the Charge on Saturday..coming from a rooted eris. .did notice a little lag. Immediately installed launcher pro and noticed quite a difference.
One thing i notice is the menu keys do not light up..making it a little difficult to use in the dark. Any one else experience this and find a solution.
Thanks
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gemro311 said:
Just picked up the Charge on Saturday..coming from a rooted eris. .did notice a little lag. Immediately installed launcher pro and noticed quite a difference.
One thing i notice is the menu keys do not light up..making it a little difficult to use in the dark. Any one else experience this and find a solution.
Thanks
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I believe the keys not lighting up was also the default behavior for the Fascinate, and that was resolved with a custom kernel. This may be inaccurate, as I came from the Droid X, but luckily the key layout is identical so I didn't need any time to relearn.

NotATreoFan said:
I believe the keys not lighting up was also the default behavior for the Fascinate, and that was resolved with a custom kernel. This may be inaccurate, as I came from the Droid X, but luckily the key layout is identical so I didn't need any time to relearn.
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Contacted Samsung support and they walked me thru a couple of troubleshooting tips . And now my lights are working.
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for the lights. go to the market and get keep the lights on app. and put the widget on the screen. solved my light problem.

Is this cause for concern?

So I have had my Sensation for a week now and while it's been running almost flawless I have noticed something odd. On two occasions I have been several screens deep in an application. The most recent was while I was in the Google Market. After hitting the back (arrow) button several times, I noticed that the screen went white and HTC letters appeared. It's almost like it reset itself without the full reboot.
Has anyone else experienced this issue. Is it cause for concern? I have a week left to exchange it at Walmart, but would prefer not to go that route unless I have to do so.
Thanks for any and all replies.

It sounds like Rosie (Sense launcher) gets pushed out of the memory and has to re-start itself. Got this phone today and I've seen it more then once already. I think it's ridiculous that a phone with 700+ Mb or Ram is exhibiting that kind of behavior. Just shows how bloated Sense is.
Don't get me wrong, I like Sense, I just wish it would not take over the phone and would let us disable/uninstall/replace parts of it. Can't wait for CM on this device.

I just picked up my sensation and its done that several times already seems like its doing a soft reboot.
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I've had this same issue occasionally as well. Can't recreate it, but it definitely happens.

Thanks for the info. On the one hand it's reassuring that it's happening to others, however, it doesn't mean that it's acceptable. One more reason to hope HTC unlocks the boot loader soon.

The 3D launcher is nice but I'm probably going to replace it with some thing like Go EX or ADW EX. If the launcher is that much of a ram hog it's not worth the eye candy.

I have had two units and they both have don it

borodin1 said:
It sounds like Rosie (Sense launcher) gets pushed out of the memory and has to re-start itself.
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Yep, that's exactly what it is. It's not a reboot, or a reset, or anything like that.
I got it quite a lot in the day or so that I used Sense, haven't seen it happen with ADW.Launcher.EX yet. ADW restarts occasionally on my HTC Desire (running CM7.1 nightlies) if I've been doing something memory intensive like playing a 3D game or browsing the internet with lots of windows.

CM7 is going to be brilliant on here. It'll be Sensational

jschu22 said:
I've had this same issue occasionally as well. Can't recreate it, but it definitely happens.
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Happens on mine each and every time I launch Firefox Beta... also happens almost randomly, even the tasks don't seem to use a lot of resources...

I find this a non issue. It does that to mine too but quickly fixes itself
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I've seen it a total of two times the past week. I've been using Sense launcher the whole time and using the phone itself WAAAAAAAAAAY too much this past week. So for me it's been a very rare glitch.
Sense out of the box is always under-optimized.
Give me root! Or give me death!

The same thing happens on my wifes Thunderbolt so I'd say it may be a Sense optimization issue.
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Speed problems with my Sensation!?!

The only real problem I have with the sensation, is it's speed. It's taking forever to get here. Sense 3.0 lagged my delivery time. Dual core my ass!
Anybody else having this problem? Figured I'd ask as all others seem to be having a problem in some way or another with the Sensation.

The_Biz said:
The only real problem I have with the sensation, is it's speed. It's taking forever to get here. Sense 3.0 lagged my delivery time. Dual core my ass!
Anybody else having this problem? Figured I'd ask as all others seem to be having a problem in some way or another with the Sensation.
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+1 Agreed.

Mine is flying. I think you're confuse about speed and smoothness. If you think you don't, exchange.

Honestly the Sensation doesn't seem any smoother with Sense 3.0 than my G2 running Virtuous Unity 1.24 @ 1.2ghz. But I bought it for the 4.3" screen and thin form factor.

Oh dear. I think you misread the original post.
Figure_desire said:
Mine is flying. I think you're confuse about speed and smoothness. If you think you don't, exchange.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed0OyzN0KNg
Just wondering, do you consider this guy's Sensation fast and smooth?

Ok, want some quicktips to get a sensation out of your smartphone ?
-root it
-get some good system apps
-remove all unnecessary apps/systemapps
-secure it
-optimize it
-replace sense with zeam launcher/ something else.
-Overlock it if possible
-clean the autostarts
and voila, you got your sensation.
ps: for more information check out my sig.

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Ok, want some quicktips to get a sensation out of your smartphone ?
-root it
-get some good system apps
-remove all unnecessary apps/systemapps
-secure it
-optimize it
-replace sense with zeam launcher/ something else.
-Overlock it if possible
and voila, you got your sensation.
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I got a Sidekick 4G ( Sensation ) lolol .
about to get a OC'ed Lagfix kernal hehe . w/ a nice ROM w/ TouchWiz 4.0

I have used 4 brand new Sensations with nothing loaded on them and all of them have performed differently. I'm trying to make sense (pun intended) of it. The first one I got was fast and smooth, the second one was laggy as hell, the third was a little laggy and the forth one was fast and smooth. Does anyone know why the same device would act differently when it comes to performance?
Here is a little video I made. Let me know if yours is this fast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcSynH_LG4I

jrwingate6 said:
I have used 4 brand new Sensations with nothing loaded on them and all of them have performed differently. I'm trying to make sense (pun intended) of it. The first one I got was fast and smooth, the second one was laggy as hell, the third was a little laggy and the forth one was fast and smooth. Does anyone know why the same device would act differently when it comes to performance?
Here is a little video I made. Let me know if yours is this fast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcSynH_LG4I
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Mine was in the beginning now its starting to lag pretty bad, especially since I have the g2x to compare it against. Have had the carousel effect in a few days now. My try a factory reset but I dread the thought of having to reinstall a billion apps

jrwingate6 said:
I have used 4 brand new Sensations with nothing loaded on them and all of them have performed differently. I'm trying to make sense (pun intended) of it. The first one I got was fast and smooth, the second one was laggy as hell, the third was a little laggy and the forth one was fast and smooth. Does anyone know why the same device would act differently when it comes to performance?
Here is a little video I made. Let me know if yours is this fast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcSynH_LG4I
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That looks just like mine. I consider it fast and smooth. But then I'm coming from a Vibrant, a picture of which is in the dictionary under "laggy".
I tried a demo unit at a TMO store and it was not as smooth. A bit jerky or stuttery when flipping between home screens. I disabled animation, but it made no diff. So, it does seem there's an odd variation between phones.

jlevy73 said:
Mine was in the beginning now its starting to lag pretty bad, especially since I have the g2x to compare it against. Have had the carousel effect in a few days now. My try a factory reset but I dread the thought of having to reinstall a billion apps
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Yea, I wouldn't keep the auto install option on. For some reason I think it makes the phone slower. What is the carousel effect? I know what the carousel is but what is it doing? Engaging every time you go to scroll side to side? Both mine and my wife's Sensations are pretty damn fast. Not quite as fast as the G2X since it's running vanilla but I have no doubt in my mind that the Sensation will be just as fast once we get the bloatware and Sense off of it. I have not restarted my phone for 3 days now and have never gone that long with any other Android device. Usually when day two rolls around, my devices start to bog out but not my Sensation. Might be the added RAM or something. Once we get everything off of it though. We are going to have over 400mb of free memory sitting on the phone.

jrwingate6 said:
Yea, I wouldn't keep the auto install option on. For some reason I think it makes the phone slower. What is the carousel effect? I know what the carousel is but what is it doing? Engaging every time you go to scroll side to side? Both mine and my wife's Sensations are pretty damn fast. Not quite as fast as the G2X since it's running vanilla but I have no doubt in my mind that the Sensation will be just as fast once we get the bloatware and Sense off of it. I have not restarted my phone for 3 days now and have never gone that long with any other Android device. Usually when day two rolls around, my devices start to bog out but not my Sensation. Might be the added RAM or something. Once we get everything off of it though. We are going to have over 400mb of free memory sitting on the phone.
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The carousel effect is when you get the homescreens to whirl around by swiping the screens fast. What do you mean by auto install option on?

jlevy73 said:
The carousel effect is when you get the homescreens to whirl around by swiping the screens fast. What do you mean by auto install option on?
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If you go into privacy settings there is a option called "Back up my Settings" and "Automatic Restore". If you enable both of them, all of your settings and apps will be backed up on Googles servers so when ever you get a new phone or reset your phone, all of your apps will be installed automatically and all of your phone settings will stay the way you had them. I have done this about 6 times with the same phones and every time I do it, the phone performs slower for some reason. I know it sounds weird but it does. Try it out though. See what happens.

Wow @ the responses to my op. Most of you didn't even read the op and still replied with a response that had nothing to do with the op. I just wanted to get some lulz from this thread, well, I guess I did.

The_Biz said:
Wow @ the responses to my op. Most of you didn't even read the op and still replied with a response that had nothing to do with the op. I just wanted to get some lulz from this thread, well, I guess I did.
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Well done my friend, I told you it would work
Nobody is reading the OP, or anything for that matter........just post away !

The_Biz said:
Wow @ the responses to my op. Most of you didn't even read the op and still replied with a response that had nothing to do with the op. I just wanted to get some lulz from this thread, well, I guess I did.
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You didn't get a response because I don't speak gibberish. How about translating that into English next time and perhaps you might gets some feedback

I guess you were talking about how long it took to get in the Sensation forums through the XDA app. Were you being vague on purpose? You made it seem like a general statement. Next time, try to specify what exactly is lagging.
The dual core processor had nothing to do with getting here. The second core will not kick in unless it needs to and lets be honest, the XDA app doesn't need two cores to run it. There have been plenty of times I have seen the dual core CPU do its thing. I blew through, what my Nexus S and Nexus 1 would have lagged through.
Lastly, to respond with an answer for your post. Sometimes these forums get a ton if traffic in a short period ff of time which causes them to lag. There are also plenty of people working on these forums all day long to keep them running so people like me and you can agrue over dumb **** the other person probably knows both about.
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Please excuse the previous post. I'm not sure its going to make since ei just took my Ambien.
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jrwingate6 said:
I guess you were talking about how long it took to get in the Sensation forums through the XDA app. Were you being vague on purpose? You made it seem like a general statement. Next time, try to specify what exactly is lagging.
The dual core processor had nothing to do with getting here. The second core will not kick in unless it needs to and lets be honest, the XDA app doesn't need two cores to run it. There have been plenty of times I have seen the dual core CPU do its thing. I blew through, what my Nexus S and Nexus 1 would have lagged through.
Lastly, to respond with an answer for your post. Sometimes these forums get a ton if traffic in a short period ff of time which causes them to lag. There are also plenty of people working on these forums all day long to keep them running so people like me and you can agrue over dumb **** the other person probably knows both about.
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LOL...he was talking about how long it took for him to actually get the phone.

Does Sense still crash all the time on CleanRom?

Sense crashes on me constantly. I tried the fix suggested where you go unclick the activities setting in the development area, to no avail. Can any Cleanrom users tell me if this is problem for you (AT&T) after you rooted and installed CR on your phone?

What do you mean by crashing? Is it force closing or just reloading (get the loading circle)
If its reloading its because of HTC setting aggressive memory management.
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I could have worded that better - I mean to say that HTC sense, on my vanilla AT&T rom, goes down a lot, and when you press the home button, it says "loading" for upwards of 20 seconds.
I followed the instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1599214, however while this seems to fix it for some folks, it does not fix it for others. It's still happening to me, sadly.
I am considering returning this for a SGIII, but I got to wondering if I root it and install CleanRom, maybe that fixes the issue to, in addition to removing the AT&T bloat.

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I could have worded that better - I mean to say that HTC sense, on my vanilla AT&T rom, goes down a lot, and when you press the home button, it says "loading" for upwards of 20 seconds.
I followed the instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1599214, however while this seems to fix it for some folks, it does not fix it for others. It's still happening to me, sadly.
I am considering returning this for a SGIII, but I got to wondering if I root it and install CleanRom, maybe that fixes the issue to, in addition to removing the AT&T bloat.
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That would be the aggressive management that HTC put into the phone same reason that the browser reloads the page after you close it.
If you find a ROM that locks sense into the memory then it should solve that.
I only have the t3 hox so I can't recommend any for at&t
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bumping, in case some Cleanrom users can reply. I got really frustrated yesterday - set up my screens and launcher and folders all nice, just the way I like them, nad Sense reloaded - all of a sudden, the screens I had removed were back, my icons were all over the place, and my folders were not on the home screen. Super frustrating!

Hold on, it actually goes back to default layout after reloading as well?
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lawrence750 said:
Hold on, it actually goes back to default layout after reloading as well?
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Almost - I had five screens again, my folders were all bumped to the last screen (so I had to move them back to the home screen before I could delete the extra screens), and a bunch of icons appeared out of nowhere, all over the place. So, it didn't go back to default but it did jack everything up.
It may be something that never comes up because most people do not remove all the extra screens.

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bumping, in case some Cleanrom users can reply. I got really frustrated yesterday - set up my screens and launcher and folders all nice, just the way I like them, nad Sense reloaded - all of a sudden, the screens I had removed were back, my icons were all over the place, and my folders were not on the home screen. Super frustrating!
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I doubt you're going to get many replies from CleanROM users over here, since you've posted this in the international (Tegra 3) subforums and CleanROM is for S4 devices so no-one here will be using it. You'd probably get a better response asking here (or you could maybe ask a mod to shift the thread for you).

hopscotchjunkie said:
I doubt you're going to get many replies from CleanROM users over here, since you've posted this in the international (Tegra 3) subforums and CleanROM is for S4 devices so no-one here will be using it. You'd probably get a better response asking here (or you could maybe ask a mod to shift the thread for you).
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WHOOPS! Thank you for pointing it out to me!

Well hello Welcome to the correct forums xD
CleanROM has many multitasking improvements, from what I've read, so it should help quite a bit.
And if you still don't like the multitasking, AOSP based ROMs such as CM9 or AOKP have perfect multitasking (I've been able to get up to 7 apps running with AOKP)

CleanROM 4.1
Using the latest version of CleanROM on the AT&T One X, I have none of the issues that you speak of. Multitasking is night-and-day (granted that you flashed the multitasking mod in the AROMA installer), battery life is stellar, and everything is rock-solid stable.

I've never seen sense reload on me but I don't play games much. Are you a big gamer? I've been using clean rom since it was introduced.

I haven't had Sense reload on me once since flashing CleanROM a month and a half ago. I play a ton of RAM heavy games too like NOVA 3 and as I said, not once has it happened.

I mostly use the web on mine, Google Music, and a couple minor games like Words By Post and Temple Run. Thank you all for the replies, this makes me feel a bit more hopeful. I'm a bit anti-Samsung at the moment, so I am glad to hear that maybe flashing a ROM will fix my problems. I was pretty close to just returning it.

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I mostly use the web on mine, Google Music, and a couple minor games like Words By Post and Temple Run. Thank you all for the replies, this makes me feel a bit more hopeful. I'm a bit anti-Samsung at the moment, so I am glad to hear that maybe flashing a ROM will fix my problems. I was pretty close to just returning it.
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Trust me man, flash CleanROM and you will fall in love with your HOX. The ROM is amazing and the dev is awesome. It is the way HTC should have shipped these things.
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