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XBMC on Android

I think the time is near.
Linux Specific:
* Added support for ARM processor architecture (with TI OMAP3 and NVIDIA Tegra 2 as reference)
* Added OpenMAX Video Acceleration support (requires OpenMax IL compatible hardware, like Tegra2
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The above was stated on changelog for the new stable XBMC release.
I am not expert on these things but is it really time for XBMC on Android tablets and phones?

This would be a great app for android,can anyone express their opinions in regard? Can it be done?

I would love to see this for my Xperia X10a.

How would xbmc bring anything worthwhile to a mobile platform? Don't get me wrong, I love xbmc... On my tv.
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hawkxcore said:
How would xbmc bring anything worthwhile to a mobile platform? Don't get me wrong, I love xbmc... On my tv.
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In light of the upcoming Atrix 4G with their media hub, this would be perfect for a portable xbmc which you can take anywhere with you (especially when you have to travel).

Open the doors and bring forth XBMC........ please?
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Those are two very specif SOC reference designs with limited availability in todays market. The Nexus One for example runs the MSM SOC, and Tegra2 phones were just announced this week.

It chapped my hide to find out that there are nearly full blown XBMC installs available now for iOS devices like the iPad and iPhone 4. How can there not be one in development for the Tegra 2 with existing tablets using that processor already available for purchase for less than $400...?

Yeah, with the elocity a7 @ $299 boasting a tegra 2 and 512 mb of RAM someone should jump on it.

*bump*
Do want.

Are there any news?

the majority of the libraries aren't a problem in a distribution sense, the NDK has support for that. the problem is the core ones, libc etc. Those which means a custom compiler. This won't do for market inclusion I bet. You can surely do a custom rom and just use the standard arm compiler but it would never be acceptible on market.
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http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?t=84194&page=7

just a thought what if it is coded for android live?

Ios version works really we on my iPhone 4. I was completely gob smacked to find out there wasn't a version that could run on my android tablet. Make no sense at all that to open source system dosen't have It while the Analy retentive ios has a fully fledged functional version.

I wouldn't mind some news on this either. I had an Ubuntu 10.04 box, built from spare computer parts, serving as my XBMC hub. I wouldn't mind a smaller more portable version.

I'd love an update too.

It won't work until someone compiles all the libraries XBMC depends on (it's a lot) for Android.
Someone had said they were going to do that, but that was about a month ago and no one has chimed in since then.
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wonder if they re doing it.....

i use xbmc on my apple tv 2 (the thing is USELESS without it...) and would really love to have this on either my phone or an android tablet if/when I decide to buy one.
Consider me confused as well at how ios has xbmc yet android doesnt? really???

I have been waiting for this for a long time
I have been waiting for this since before they released it for ios devices. I would pay good money for the ability to run xbmc on my android devices! If I knew how I would have given it a try but maybe someone who is talented at these things could do there magic. If there is anyone out there working on this it would be fantastic for all of us Android/XBMC users. I just think it suits the android devices better anyways bigger screens faster processors more freedom. Thanks and Please!!

Dual Core Question

I am just wondering. I am a huge fan of android and am using Desire HD now. But I was wondering if a dual core tablet can be installed with Windows 7? I only need the W7 just to sync with my android phone. Maybe I can install RUU or any other ROMS in the future using my tablet.

Not quite sure what your asking here... Dual Core x86 processor tablets would probably run windows 7, Dual Core Arm Processor can not as windows is x86 processor specification and Android is Arm. All android devices are compatible to the best of my knowledge with windows 7 so if your worried about getting an android tablet and not having support for it then don't worry. Other than that i hope i answered your question.

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Windows 7 can only be installed on x86 systems. Older versions of Windows NT could be installed on other CPUs like Alpha and Power PC and Windows server has a version that can run on Itanium/IA-64 but they are dropping it.
Microsoft has claimed Windows 8 will run on ARM systems so when it comes out you may be able to use it but most programs won't run it.

The Old One said:
Windows 7 can only be installed on x86 systems. Older versions of Windows NT could be installed on other CPUs like Alpha and Power PC and Windows server has a version that can run on Itanium/IA-64 but they are dropping it.
Microsoft has claimed Windows 8 will run on ARM systems so when it comes out you may be able to use it but most programs won't run it.
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Does the dual boot Viewpad 10 use (x)86 processors? Is Android 1.6 the last or latest Android OS that can run on the (x)86 platform?
I'm just curious as to how Viewsonic gets both OS's to run on viewpad 10 platform, so this looks like a good place to ask about that.

Yes, Atom x86 CPU and Android 1.6 (last version to support x86).
Does the dual boot Viewpad 10 use (x)86 processors? Is Android 1.6 the last or latest Android OS that can run on the (x)86 platform?
I'm just curious as to how Viewsonic gets both OS's to run on viewpad 10 platform, so this looks like a good place to ask about that.
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GaryHypnosis said:
Does the dual boot Viewpad 10 use (x)86 processors? Is Android 1.6 the last or latest Android OS that can run on the (x)86 platform?
I'm just curious as to how Viewsonic gets both OS's to run on viewpad 10 platform, so this looks like a good place to ask about that.
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Viewsonic's Viewpad 10 uses the intel atom cpu to my knowledge. I don't know the details behind it but have read that Android 1.6 is the last version of Android that can run on x86 architecture. Maybe a dev. will be able to explain that part.
It would have made lots of sense for Google to make 2.x and up compatible with x86/x64 but I suppose there may be politics involved (imho, it can't be much else, since Linux runs on everything and Android is based almost entirely on Linux)....or maybe it would be more work or too much code needed. Since 2.2 is meant primarily for phones first, maybe they didn't see a need to bloat it up.
I wouldn't mind if Android needed a 650MB-1GB install as long as it works well.
Here's a snippet, you will be able to find more if you google it....though I can't find a reason as to why myself.

Hi,
I don't know if VS did their own work or may have used stuff from the Android X86 project:
http://www.android-x86.org/
or something similar (I think that there are other efforts like this)...
As you can see, the project is currently on 1.6, but:
http://www.android-x86.org/#What_we_are_working_on_now
says their working on Froyo:
What we are working on now
Port Froyo to x86 (froyo-x86 branch)
OpenGL hardware accelerator to froyo-x86 (olv, cwhuang)
New x86 toolchain (cwhuang)
Ethernet update (Yi)
Automount for new vold (cwhuang)
New target sparta (Doug)
New target viewpad10 (Al Sutton)
New target viliv s5 (okwon)
Mplayer porting (okwon
BTW, if you have a Windows PC, you can actually run that Android (1.6) on it. I had done that earlier, before getting my Gtab.
Jim

As one of the members pointed out, and if you check out the hands ons that have been done recently, ViewPad10 does indeed use Androidx86 project. GREAT News is, they just released Froyo-x86 (http://www.android-x86.org/releases/release_2_2) and there is a specific ISO for the ViewPad10. I actually just ordered 5 from one of my vendors (1 to keep and 4 to sell) so I am definitely going to pop that Froyo-x86 in mine and see how it whirls! I'm very excited by the prospects of a dual boot Froyo7 tablet!

Did you load the 2.2 iso onto one, and if so how well did it work? I just want to use a copy of android so I can use the apps I already bought for my phone.

Some of the latest so called 'dual-boot' tablets are actually going to be using an android virtual machine which will run within windows.
If anyone's comfortable compiling their own kernel and drivers then they stand a chance of 'rolling their own' VM otherwise unless someone with the knowhow takes up the banner for a particular device, I would consider this option out of reach.

Which tablet devices have you seen running an Android VM? I ran the 2.2 live USB on my VPad10 but it was missing wifi. Everything else seems to run great. Its fast and functional! Except the wifi. :-(
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the v10 specific iso didn't support wifi?!?!?!?

VPad and Froyo
I've picked up a VPad10 and have tried upgrading Android to 2.2 and have found that the interface buttons seemed out of place . I had a hard time moving backwards through the various pages - I had to tap the upper right corner on the bar and tap a second time in order to move back to the previous screen.
I found the interface too different from the standard to make it useful. I've since reverted back to 1.6
I had difficulty loading the Froyo (.img.gz) version. I've tried opening the gz on my Linux machine (vcersus my Windows box) and still get the same problem. Can the Froyo beta be loaded as iso image like the others, it would make my life easier?

I placed an order for the 10" gtablet the other day. This thread saved me from some dissapointment by trying to save a couple bucks.
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Don't worry - Android 4.0 soon release and Honeycomb soon widely available

Google I/O: Developers Want Android 4.0 'Ice Cream
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2385113,00.asp
Alright - patient, patient - soon HoneyComb will be publicly available for every Android tablet (strongly advised by Google - 3.0 needs DUAL CORE!)
Okkk - My next tablet will be Asus Transformer and will be probably cheaper than $399 maybe $299 !

I appreciate your optimism, but I think Ice Cream is a while away. Honeycomb isn't even ready for the mainstream. I doubt Google is going to double down on unfinished operating systems but who knows. With their whole "Beta" idea we could have four or five operating systems running around in the wild. Oh, wait... And don't forget about the role our device manufacturers play. Don't mistake my pessimism as a dismissal. I think we'll have our dessert, and eat it too. Just maybe a little farther down the road.

Or, if you watched the fireside presentation you would see that we are never getting HC released. ICS is scheduled for Q4, which could be Dec 30th, and that just means launched on a device, does not mean AOSP.
This is a dark year for tablets. nVidia and the l4t work is probably going to be our most exciting project in the next 2-3 weeks.

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Or, if you watched the fireside presentation you would see that we are never getting HC released. ICS is scheduled for Q4, which could be Dec 30th, and that just means launched on a device, does not mean AOSP.
This is a dark year for tablets. nVidia and the l4t work is probably going to be our most exciting project in the next 2-3 weeks.
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Whats L4T?

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Whats L4T?
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Linux For Tegra

Uhmm isn't Android 2.2 being already Linux? So Android OS is not Linux? someone corrects me please!

rcjpth said:
Uhmm isn't Android 2.2 being already Linux? So Android OS is not Linux? someone corrects me please!
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Correct me if i am wrong, but i think there is a confusion here.
Android OS as linux OS are both based on Unix code(which sometimes is also called Linux).
So when they say that there will be Linux for Tegra they are saying: Will pass from AndroidOS(unix/linux)Code to LinuxOS(Unix/Linux) Code.
Again, i am not an expert, but this is what i understood from various posts.

Gtablet has Tegra CPU and runs Android 2.2 (which is Linux) - so what is it being told here L4T "Linux 4 Tegra"?
Yeah kinda confuse but the Tegra is already being used by Linux - what's up with this - LOL - good time waster though !!

rcjpth said:
Uhmm isn't Android 2.2 being already Linux? So Android OS is not Linux? someone corrects me please!
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To be more precise, Android is a software stack comprised of an OS, middleware (not much in Android since that stuff is part of OS) and applications. The OS in Android's case has a kernel aimed at mobile phone use based on Linux.
Android is not Linux, just like Linux is not UNIX, but it is derived from it.
Don't know offhand WHICH Linux was the base for Android, but I would lean towards Slackware, Debian, SUSE or Red Hat since they were the big dawgs in 2003.

Ubuntu Linux (vs. Android) for phones and tablets?

Many would prefer a real Linux running on their phones or tablets, and that might not be too far away: http://blogs.wsj.com/tech-europe/2011/11/01/ubuntu-versus-android-for-phones-and-tablets/
Now how about a Gnome or KDE desktop environment to go with it?
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Plasma is already being developed for mobile devices. Looks very promising.
Shoot me if I'm wrong, but MeeGo looks great as well.
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I support all open-source variants whether it is android, ubuntu, webos or meego
by the way, someone has tried to port ubuntu 11.04 to touchpad
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1304475

Why limit it to just one distro? What I'd like to have is the ability to run any chosen distro. This would require a bootloader that can load an arbitrary kernel, and all hardware drivers in a form that allows them to be compiled for any arbitrary kernel. This means keeping up with new releases of the kernel and new X versions. Like Nvidia does it for their Geforce graphic cards. Even better would be open-source drivers, but if the vendor keeps up, I don't mind a closed driver for a few hardware pieces.
But that's utopian thinking. And that's why (plus a few other reasons) I'll always prefer a netbook over a tablet. As for phones, with Nokia dropping Meego, I don't see any "true" Linux taking off.

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Windows RT

Will we ever get a Windows RT Port? Is the transformer drivers as easy and clear to the developers here so that something like this can one day be possible?
http://wmpoweruser.com/htc-hd2-wp8-port-leads-to-windows-rt-on-the-htc-hd2/

Asus provide the kernel source so it's probably doable. Will someone have big enough balls to start development? That's another question...

Microsoft themselves has said that Windows RT wont be supported on Tegra 2 devices.
Not saying it can't be done, but it wont be something which will be done easily.
And given how little the TF101 dev-community is these days, coupled with the absolute lacking enthusiasm for Windows RT, I doubt it'll ever happen.
But feel free to prove me wrong

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Microsoft themselves has said that Windows RT wont be supported on Tegra 2 devices.
Not saying it can't be done, but it wont be something which will be done easily.
And given how little the TF101 dev-community is these days, coupled with the absolute lacking enthusiasm for Windows RT, I doubt it'll ever happen.
But feel free to prove me wrong
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Wikipedia says it works on Tegra2.
"Microsoft officially announced support for ARM chipsets in the next version of Windows at the 2011 Consumer Electronics Show. An early port of Windows on ARM running on devices with Qualcomm Snapdragon, Texas Instruments OMAP, and Nvidia Tegra 2 chipsets were demonstrated by Steven Sinofsky; showcasing working ports of Internet Explorer 9 (with DirectX support via the Tegra 2's GPU)"
But I guess that's old and could be outdated.

Seems the internets disagree with what was the consensus last time I checked.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Wind...an-NVIDIA-Tegra-2-chipset-Intel-sighs_id18133
So who knows. Might be possible if you find someone who'll bother to do it.
Personally I run Windows 8 on my laptop and I'm not very eager on getting on my transformer. I much prefer Android for most things.