Hey guys I am currently on a Samsung Captivate and have had the phone for a year now and it has been incredible.
I have got really into the Captivate development, and have flashed almost every ROM there has been made, and help currently work on the Darky i9000 port-->Captivate.
But I am do for an upgrade in June, thus my questions leads me as to what YOU think of the Samsung Infuse compared to another phone yet to come out (i.e. The SGS II <---probably to pricey., the HTC Lead, ect.)
My question is what is the development going to be like for the Infuse in the future and also what do y'all think of the phone just out of the box. How does it feel, look, stock performance.
Finally my last question will there be an Odin flash back to stock method in the future, the thing I love most about my Captivate is that I've soft bricked it at least 1,000 times, but Odin and a Jig are always there.
please be honest, old Captivate users especially, tell me what you have thought of this transition.
Thanks so much,
From a possible future Infuse contributor : D.
if you like the infuse and most people do, unless they are haters who think it's a year late. you would also like the attain! it's a sgs2 and is assumed to come out this july.
Dani897 said:
if you like the infuse and most people do, unless they are haters who think it's a year late. you would also like the attain! it's a sgs2 and is assumed to come out this july.
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July??? Do you have a source? Nobody at AT&T has an eta. Last I.heard was possibly late Q3 2011 at the absolute earliest
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July??? Do you have a source? Nobody at AT&T has an eta. Last I.heard was possibly late Q3 2011 at the absolute earliest
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it's just an assumption. samsung booked the same reservation for a conference last year for the same date that they did thist year. last year the sgs line was announced andthe captivate came out in july. it's not a relaible method but if i had to guess, well i think they want to keep that pattern going.
The day I ordered mine I noticed the leaked ROM for the HTC Holiday. I was having second thoughts as the specs on the Holiday are pretty impressive. But since I got the Infuse I haven't thought twice about it.
Like the SGS2, there is no release date for the Holiday. So who knows how long the wait will be. The next best thing is always right around the corner. If it's something I want bad enough and it's after my 30 day return window, then I'll just sell the Infuse and buy it outright. Until then, I'm going to enjoy the Infuse because it really is a very nice device.
to the op. to completely answer your questions. this phone is BIG! but it is also thin. i hate the glossy plastics and as much as the back cover looks great it is very cheap. that's not to say it is not durable. the back cover may be flimsy but you wont damage it if it is on the phone. now as much as it looks like an sgs2 the sgs2 looks better, it just proportions out better. other than that it is loaded with 2.2.1 and is butter smooth. there is a noticable differnce from the captivate, not in snappyness but you never get those moments of it getting choppy when it is really busy. also the camera works while making phone calls and so does the gps. the camera app could be better but the flash is super bright. i spent a lot of money on this phone as an impulse buy but i have no buyers remorse like i did with my past android phones. there are devs but nothing is tested as of yet. the devs on here are either just learking or dont have a second phone for testing purposes.
the mhl doesnt work with media hub for licence reasons. i wonder if it will work if we use media hub for an international sgs2? the licence laws are different over sees. but the hdmi output is very sharp. i just need to put some better movies on it to test it better. the trailers on the phone have a crappy compression on them. time to download some ripped movies!
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the mhl doesnt work with media hub for licence reasons. i wonder if it will work if we use media hub for an international sgs2? the licence laws are different over sees. but the hdmi output is very sharp. i just need to put some better movies on it to test it better. the trailers on the phone have a crappy compression on them. time to download some ripped movies!
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How did you get the mhl to work? I tried it on two TV's and both wouldn't detect my phone as an HDMI device. Is there a setting to get it to work?
Ya thanks so much for the feedback.
Since I loved my Captivate so much I thought I would get its next generation version and get the front facing camera, better display, faster processor.
But then as stated above all the questions regarding thet SGS II **Possibly** coming out in July. I love what the reviews say of the SGS II, plus the development of that will be incredible.
I dont wanna play the waiting game because obviously we all know what the waiting game is, its waiting for the next best thing just to be out down the next two weeks. The Captivate was my first top of the line phone I got, and I loved it, I love hacking into it, I loved soft bricking it, I loved having CM7, to JVH, to all the ROM's.
That being said if the Infuse was getting the development support as that of an Atrix for example I may just jump in, but it will be hard because I dont for see the development for this taking off really any time soon, that being said I could be completely ROM, wait till Jully have no SGS II, and the Infuse having CM7 and Ill be with my Captivate. Oh well : D.
Finally, the one thing I do like about the Infuse is as ALL of you have said, and other reviews is out of the box the Captivate is ****, lets be honest, its choppy, is on 2.1, its GPS is horrendous, and TW3 on that is horrible, but with the development it has been turned into quite an incredible little phone .
If I were to get the Infuse I could be satisfied for a little bit because as everyone says there are some nice stock perks, and is much smoother out of the box. That being said I'll probably wait after the summer till I purchase a phone to just see if there is a possible Odin flash back to stock method in place for this, and how the development proceeds.
Any other word y'all here or things in why the Infuse>> Captivate?
Thanks so much!
I think the Infuse is selling like hotcakes (at least near me). This suggests (although not guarantees) good development for the device.
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I think the Infuse is selling like hotcakes (at least near me). This suggests (although not guarantees) good development for the device.
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Ya I know the Infuse is selling well where I live as well but then again I dont know if any of the main SGS Dev's are coming to the Infuse. And that is very important to me.
But I did just think of something, if someone could take the Stock Infuse ROM, and .tar it couldnt we just use Odin to flash back to stock by just putting the stock infuse ROM in a .tar file, putting it into the PDA file slot, .512 Pit, Repartition, and then flash back to stock.
Thats assuming that the Infuse still has Download mode ect. ect.? Just a thought, obviously I dont have an Infuse but would be a nice little test.
THe reason im so intrigued by the Infuse though is, it looks and sounds like the much better Captivate out of the box which makes me think, that it will be nice for a while, while we wait for development, and then someone could whip up some nice ROMs for the Infuse.
That being said if the SGS II does sell like the SGS first generation, and be branded my individual carriers, I think I'd have to go with that, as it comes with 2.3.4, TW4, same processor, Dev support, ect. But in the Infuse defense they do look like very similar phones... They are both probably amazing, but honestly I dont wanna leave my Captivate (with JVH Darky 10.1 Beta) for something stock for too long : P
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How did you get the mhl to work? I tried it on two TV's and both wouldn't detect my phone as an HDMI device. Is there a setting to get it to work?
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im using it on a compute rmonitor with hdmi. unfortunately hdmi standards keep changing and hdmi devices do handshakes. not all hdmi devices are compatable. how old are your tv's? are they hdmi 1.3 complient?
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The day I ordered mine I noticed the leaked ROM for the HTC Holiday. I was having second thoughts as the specs on the Holiday are pretty impressive. But since I got the Infuse I haven't thought twice about it.
Like the SGS2, there is no release date for the Holiday. So who knows how long the wait will be. The next best thing is always right around the corner. If it's something I want bad enough and it's after my 30 day return window, then I'll just sell the Infuse and buy it outright. Until then, I'm going to enjoy the Infuse because it really is a very nice device.
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I totally agree. The HTC Holiday will definitely be sweet. I was a little bummed when I read an article a day after the Infuse release "Infuse buyers: wait for the Holiday!" But I'd been waiting for the Infuse since January. Eventually in this fast-paced Market, you have to buy a phone and enjoy it for a while, even though something better might be coming out soon.
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I totally agree. The HTC Holiday will definitely be sweet. I was a little bummed when I read an article a day after the Infuse release "Infuse buyers: wait for the Holiday!" But I'd been waiting for the Infuse since January. Eventually in this fast-paced Market, you have to buy a phone and enjoy it for a while, even though something better might be coming out soon.
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Agree completely, you cannot play the waiting game ever, although if I am going to use my upgrade it will have to be on the SGS II for AT&T, or the Infuse.
Tough choice, I think it will ultimately come down to how the development is for both, and pricing.
ive never been a huge HTC fan, my best friend owns the Inspire.
I was going to get the Infuse but after hearing about the HTC Holiday I'm going to wait.
My upgrade is going to the galaxy s 2 or the holiday whichever comes first.
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Hi,
Just wanted to get some feedback from knowledgeable peeps around
My contract is up and was wondering if its a wise decision to switch from my utterly delightful Nexus One to more powerful Samsung Captivate
I like the flexibility and freedom to play around on my Nexus One, but the Super AMOLED and Faster GPU has been calling me to Samsung Captivate.
All the 2 cents are welcome.
Cheers
android.activate said:
Hi,
Just wanted to get some feedback from knowledgeable peeps around
My contract is up and was wondering if its a wise decision to switch from my utterly delightful Nexus One to more powerful Samsung Captivate
I like the flexibility and freedom to play around on my Nexus One, but the Super AMOLED and Faster GPU has been calling me to Samsung Captivate.
All the 2 cents are welcome.
Cheers
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I believe the CPU and RAM are similar in both devices (1GHz and 512 MB respectively). Considering that the Nexus One seems to be Google's "official" Android development device, I would stick to that until something substantially superior comes out.
On a side note, I think you're going to miss the notification light on the Nexus One.
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I believe the CPU and RAM are similar in both devices (1GHz and 512 MB respectively). Considering that the Nexus One seems to be Google's "official" Android development device, I would stick to that until something substantially superior comes out.
On a side note, I think you're going to miss the notification light on the Nexus One.
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Thanks for the response, Yes, Notification lights are awesome..
There is an app floating around here that uses a red dot on the screen as an LED indicator.
if you do decide to take that step, get one from amazon. Theyre selling for 49.99 with a 2 year.
im not too sure if it will work with an upgrade, but it never hurts to find out.
If I was to go back a couple of week in time, I'd wait until the GPS issue was fixed and the Froyo build was out from Samsung before taking the plunge on the Captivate. I am still thinking of returning my Captivate and going back to my sucky Blackberry until I can get a phone that I am not apologizing about by saying things like "it's better than the iPhone, but the GPS does not work and no, it isn't have the latest software but it definitely can make phone calls!". I'd wait on the Captivate.
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If I was to go back a couple of week in time, I'd wait until the GPS issue was fixed and the Froyo build was out from Samsung before taking the plunge on the Captivate. I am still thinking of returning my Captivate and going back to my sucky Blackberry until I can get a phone that I am not apologizing about by saying things like "it's better than the iPhone, but the GPS does not work and no, it isn't have the latest software but it definitely can make phone calls!". I'd wait on the Captivate.
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Do not go back to your blackberry man! They are sooo boring. I could not wait to jump ship. I am kind of sad I am selling my bb 9700 though (GPS actually worked lol). Good times suing bbm. oh well I got android now and it the business.
If you really feel like going back to blackberry would you really be happy with their stale os?
Not yet man. Not til we get 2.2 IMO. I'd stick with the N1 for now. Don't get me wrong a few months from now galaxy s phones will be the new hot ****. But I don't think enough people have gotten their hands on them yet. No where near as many roms out there. GPS sucks a ****. Ahh hell, just get one.
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Do not go back to your blackberry man! They are sooo boring. I could not wait to jump ship. I am kind of sad I am selling my bb 9700 though (GPS actually worked lol). Good times suing bbm. oh well I got android now and it the business.
If you really feel like going back to blackberry would you really be happy with their stale os?
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Oh, it would be my old BB that I was using before I got my Captivate so I'll just be waiting very impatiently for the GPS fix and Froyo so I can come back! I'm a developer and have been mucking with the Android code to see if I could find/fix the GPS issues and port to Froyo myself but no luck yet. I am never going back to anything but Android - just need my first Android phone to actually work. I never actually use GPS except in a pinch when I am walking in the city but I need it to work at those times!
But for someone new, and who is not a developer - waiting on the Captivate is a good idea. Hopefully the fixes will come soon - I am just a little afraid that the GPS might be a hardware issue since the Galaxy S has been out for months and it has the same problems.
-Atin
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Oh, it would be my old BB that I was using before I got my Captivate so I'll just be waiting very impatiently for the GPS fix and Froyo so I can come back! I'm a developer and have been mucking with the Android code to see if I could find/fix the GPS issues and port to Froyo myself but no luck yet. I am never going back to anything but Android - just need my first Android phone to actually work. I never actually use GPS except in a pinch when I am walking in the city but I need it to work at those times!
But for someone new, and who is not a developer - waiting on the Captivate is a good idea. Hopefully the fixes will come soon - I am just a little afraid that the GPS might be a hardware issue since the Galaxy S has been out for months and it has the same problems.
-Atin
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Yeah I am in the same boat with the gps issues. I do not really use it but I would love for it to work as flawlessly as it did on my Bold 9700. I am trying to get into the developer scene but I find it kind of hard. I have used linux before and know some basic coding in C,C++, and python but I just do not know how to start.
Anyways off topic. If you're on the boat about this phone get and if you do not like it return it before the 30 days are up. Blame it on the ****ty gps if it has not been fixed by then and you might get the restocking fee waived.
JUST DO IT.
I got it. What else are you going to upgrade to? I have a n1 but wanted a new toy. The captivate is awesome. Sure gps may suck if you really need one. I have gps in all my cars so don't care for it. But having new technology is cool. At&t has nothing better. What u gonna get the iphone? Lol. I bought two of them on my upgrade for my parents line and sold that ***** for 600 each. So for 50 dollars i get it. BUT don't get rid of n1. I still use it everyday. Its my main phone. Captivate is a play phone. I flashed it bricked it returned it mod it and brick it again and exchanged it. I exchanged it about five times already. Lol one store told me they will charge me resgocking charge on next return so i just went to another store down the street. Lol. I spent 100 bucks but literally got it free when i sold the icrap. Also saved the money for the htc desire hd/ace. It will come around. But not sure if it will be better then captivate. Once froyo or maybe gingerbread cones to captivate, i prob be selling my n1. MAYBE? I don't know if i ever will. Its only six month old. I say it will be good til android 4.0 comes out. Til then i prob keep the n1. So get it. Play with it, but keep the n1.
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captivate is the best phone ive used to date!
stick to n1 till we get froyo
Captivate kills the n1.. I've go both... gps isnt broke completely . I use it daily ... not too shabby, but could be a little better...
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Captivate kills the n1.. I've go both... gps isnt broke completely . I use it daily ... not too shabby, but could be a little better...
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GPS would be nice if it worked for everybody , it seems so random sometimes it works sometimes not so much
You will def miss the trackball notifications. That's one big gripe of mine. I also miss the rock solid GPS, pix with geotagging that works (w/ out having to have gps turned on), the cm mods, some of the stock apps (especially the stock calendar app), and how much it frickin flies in general when compared to the captivate. I still have my N1 and will probably be returning the captivate unless they get the gps shizz fixed. I do quite like the captivate's potential tho. Just needs some attention from the (very awesome) devs. I may buy it again sometime down the road.
If you don't mind paying the $35 restocking fee for returning it before the 30 days, it's worth playing around with it.
You'll be in for a shocker when you switch.. there isn't much ROM development going on (yet) That's why I still have my N1
OK, I've had my Captivate for 3 weeks now and while I really like it, I have a major decision to make before my window to return it closes. Coming from a WinMo Tilt 2 I was somewhat put off by it not being as easy to mod, but I can live with that. I bought it mainly because of Samsung's promise to upgrade it to Froyo. Looks like that was a mistake. I'm willing to root it to remove the bloat and allow sideloading, but I haven't yet felt comfortable to think about a custom ROM. Not sure I ever will as it is much different from doing the same on a WinMo phone. The biggest gripe I have, though, is the GPS performance. I've had both ends of the spectrum as far as getting locks with different programs, insode and outside, and lost lock several times while navigating in the car, both here in Cali and in Florida. I mountain bike and use my phone to track my rides, so GPS is important to me. My Tilt worked excellently in that regard.
So, do I keep it and just learn to live with it, even though it looks like AT$T will have some really nice Android offerings in the near future, or do I cut my losses (about $100 worth of Cappy accessories I already purchased) and return it before my 30 days are up? I like the form factor, the performance, the way it plays my converted movies and all the apps available for it, but the crappy GPS and dismal battery life are really starting to bug me. What say you, XDA community?
Honestly I'd just bite the bullet & return it. Using Phoenix rom you could have great GPS but there's really gonna be some better **** coming out. That's what ID do.
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Return it, and stick to old phone. There are couple of good phones lined up to be released within the end of first quarter '11.
sure would miss an active member who knows what he's talking about in the captivate sub
I just seen in yahoos homepage about att new phones announced at the CES show, check it out, the one that has my interest is the"samsung infuse 4g" search to see photos if it, looks like captivate but bigger, I know why samsung or att hasn't released 2.2 because looks like they just moved on. Features include: 4.5 inch super omled screen, 8mp camera with 1.3mp front having camera, 1.2 ghz hummingbird processor, 2.2 froyo upgradeable to 2.3 "so they say unless they just move on again with a new phone" up to a 48gb sd card. And running hspda or 3g+, but att is calling this 4g. I have this on my cappy now with doc v7 rom now and it is faster than 3g.
I would just wait, they also announced others, check the site.
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Thanks for the input, guys. Well, I decided to keep the Cappy. Here's why: I only paid $49 for it on upgrade. The newer batch of Android phones will not see that kind of pricing for at least 6 months, likely longer. I spoke to an AT$T rep and she assured me that they are committed to providing the promised Froyo update ASAP. No time frame, but it will happen. My biggest complaint is with the GPS and I have done some things to improve it, at least outdoors, so I think I can live with it for my mountain bike excursions. I rarely use it for in-car navigation. Was more of a novelty while I was visiting Florida over the holidays.
So, thanks again to all that responded and XDA in general. I'm going to root my Cappy and remove the bloat in the next few days. Oh, and my 1800mah battery came yesterday and I'm currently conditioning it to see if it has any benefit over stock. Will post in that thread.
Return it. I wish i had... They promised me the Froyo update asap back in august when i bought the phone. i made a HUGE mistake buying this phone. i HATE AT&T
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So, thanks again to all that responded and XDA in general. I'm going to root my Cappy and remove the bloat in the next few days.
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Flash a Froyo ROM and apply Da_G's GPS fix (if it's not built in to the ROM). You won't regret it.
Actually, if you wait a day or so, you'll be able to flash a bone-stock Captivate Froyo ROM from Rogers.
I just can't go back to my Tilt 2. I loved that phone, but it feels like a dinosaur, now. What if I do wipe the Cappy and return it? When I get another Android phone would I be able to download all my paid apps from Market without having to repurchase them? Is Market activity phone or user specific?
Don't quote me but I think its linked to your google acc. That you sign into to pay for apps
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Don't quote me but I think its linked to your google acc. That you sign into to pay for apps
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When I lost my Captivate on the Haul road and was sent a new one, all my paid apps popped up in the Market ready for installation as soon as I'd set up my Google account. So I think you're right.
It astonishes me how many people bought this phone based on the promise of Froyo. It's not like Froyo is so much better than Eclair, and it's not like the phone is a worthless POS without Froyo.
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It astonishes me how many people bought this phone based on the promise of Froyo. It's not like Froyo is so much better than Eclair, and it's not like the phone is a worthless POS without Froyo.
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You're right.
It's a worthless POS WITH Froyo.
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It astonishes me how many people bought this phone based on the promise of Froyo. It's not like Froyo is so much better than Eclair, and it's not like the phone is a worthless POS without Froyo.
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Which is why I'm willing to keep it. I am always amazed at the people who get so bummed when a new phone comes out as if it rendered their current phone inoperative. You're right that Froyo isn't a big deal, but a better working GPS and Flash support are desirable features. Samsung and AT$T just need to follow through on their promise of the update. If they don't, I'll still be happy with the phone, but it will definitely be the last Samsung product I'll buy. I stopped buying their HDTVs when the last one took a dump and I couldn't get warranty service.
You could also exchange it for a new one based on the poor GPS performance. I mean if it doesn't work right, they should exchange it with no questios asked right? Since it seems that the GPS issue is hit and miss with these phone, you may get one that works good right out of the box.
I went to the warranty center this past weekend and exchanged my Captivate for another one because of the GPS and a couple of shutdowns over the last 2 1/2 mos and the replacement I got has much improved GPS.
I've actually got my GPS dialed in and working pretty well right now.
Should have returned it. At&t has been bs'ing us on the froyo update since Google announced it. I'm enjoying my Phoenix rom but I wish I had the real deal. I'll be buying the motorolla with that duel core when it drops
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I've actually got my GPS dialed in and working pretty well right now.
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Glad to hear that.
I would keep it considering how much you got it for. I mean, $49 is a good deal for this phone even with its issues. When I got mine, I paid the same for a refurb.
Hope I can sell my captivate for a decent price and upgrade to the new motorola or htc phone relatively cheaply. I love this phone, but I hate it at the same time. Will be nice to not have to worry about lagfixes, scetchy gps, and updates that take damn near forever. Main thing I will miss is of course the samoled screen.
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Yea good luck with trying to sell it... at least here on XDA.
Might be luckier if you eBay/Craigs List it and hope some poor sap is willing to pay for it.
The whole Galaxy S line has a horrible reputation now - even the Nexus S!
I was hoping to trade for an AT&T Nexus... but A) they wouldn't take it as a trade and B) they wanted cash to go along with it.
Meh - I'll be keeping this phone till it pukes and then upgrade when the year comes up. At this point I don't care if AT&T ever releases a true Froyo update.
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I'm getting a straight trade +100~
Would out be worth it? Sounds nice......but.....its locked down and still only on froyo :/
Swyped from my gingerfied captivate
What its a straight trade +100~?
If you are getting atrix plus $100 then there is your answer, but if you are throwing in $100 with your captivate then no its not worth it.
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What its a straight trade +100~?
If you are getting atrix plus $100 then there is your answer, but if you are throwing in $100 with your captivate then no its not worth it.
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throwing in 100 with my captivate
can I ask why is it not worth it to you?
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throwing in 100 with my captivate
can I ask why is it not worth it to you?
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I hava an Atrix and a Captivate. I love both phones. He is right though, its not worth it. I would say that you should wait, hold off a few months and wait for the SGS II. AT&T has a variant coming sometime this year, and with the rollout of their LTE network starting this summer, you have to imagine that the SGS II would be a great canidate to be one of their 1st LTE enabled phones (that's personal opinion, not based on any verified info). Aside from that, the performance differences between the two phones is noticable, but not DRASTIC. Having actual, working GPS is nice, and some of the other features are cool, but honestly I would say wait.
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I hava an Atrix and a Captivate. I love both phones. He is right though, its not worth it. I would say that you should wait, hold off a few months and wait for the SGS II. AT&T has a variant coming sometime this year, and with the rollout of their LTE network starting this summer, you have to imagine that the SGS II would be a great canidate to be one of their 1st LTE enabled phones (that's personal opinion, not based on any verified info). Aside from that, the performance differences between the two phones is noticable, but not DRASTIC. Having actual, working GPS is nice, and some of the other features are cool, but honestly I would say wait.
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well TBH, I don't really mind about the SoC other than the fact that its a dual and it would be significantly better than the single core that my captivate has.
and I don't live in the states, so I"m not really affected about LTE and such since we don't have LTE or anything where I live.
what I am worried about is the locked bootloader and such cause I can safetly run gingerbread on my captivate, but I won't be able to be on gingerbread once I'm on the atrix and my ROM choices and tweakign and such will be very limited until we can get the bootloader unlocked since motorola is such an ass to lock it.
I'm still debating this....with half of me saying "no" and half of me saying "yes"
does your atrix "feel faster or smoother" compared to the captivate?
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well TBH, I don't really mind about the SoC other than the fact that its a dual and it would be significantly better than the single core that my captivate has.
and I don't live in the states, so I"m not really affected about LTE and such since we don't have LTE or anything where I live.
what I am worried about is the locked bootloader and such cause I can safetly run gingerbread on my captivate, but I won't be able to be on gingerbread once I'm on the atrix and my ROM choices and tweakign and such will be very limited until we can get the bootloader unlocked since motorola is such an ass to lock it.
I'm still debating this....with half of me saying "no" and half of me saying "yes"
does your atrix "feel faster or smoother" compared to the captivate?
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Ahh, then yea all the AT&T stuff is kinda irrelevant, lol. The rom choices out there are minimal due to the bootloader encryption, obviously, but there is a HELL of a lot of working going on to fix that. Don't want to speak too soon but we may be close. Khoulk, tenfar, TBH, and a bunch of others are working on it. The Atrix is faster and smoother, yes, but we still don't even have an ETA for Gingerbread.
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Ahh, then yea all the AT&T stuff is kinda irrelevant, lol. The rom choices out there are minimal due to the bootloader encryption, obviously, but there is a HELL of a lot of working going on to fix that. Don't want to speak too soon but we may be close. Khoulk, tenfar, TBH, and a bunch of others are working on it. The Atrix is faster and smoother, yes, but we still don't even have an ETA for Gingerbread.
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so do you"feel" that my captivate+100 would be a decent deal for a nice more "up to date" phone?
cheers
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so do you"feel" that my captivate+100 would be a decent deal for a nice more "up to date" phone?
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I have an atrix and since i have bought it i love my cappy more. The only thing better in atrix is GPS from end user perspective. Somebody was right when he mentioned that maybe its a better idea to wait for galaxy S II
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I have an atrix and since i have bought it i love my cappy more. The only thing better in atrix is GPS from end user perspective. Somebody was right when he mentioned that maybe its a better idea to wait for galaxy S II
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If you don't mind....can I ask you why do you like your captivate more?
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Swyped from my gingerfied captivate
droid_does said:
If you don't mind....can I ask you why do you like your captivate more?
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Swyped from my gingerfied captivate
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I would check online to see what the going rate for a used captivate is before offering it up + 100 for the Atrix. Compare that to the price for an off-contract atrix and you'll have your answer as to whether or not its a "fair" trade, value wise. Comparing the two phones to each other depends on how much you value aftermarket development. I'm a hardcore themer and that's why I kept my cappy. I haven't released anything for the Atrix yet, and I've had it almost since launch. I was able to get the Atrix through work at no cost, so it was win-win for me. Hardware wise, it is superior (except for the screen. Super Am. beats out the qhd 960x540 IMO). Development wise, there's no contest. Cappy is on Gingerbread. End of discussion. Its a trade-off either way. That's why I said wait for the SGS II to become available whereever you're at: dev friendly + hardware that is equal to or bettan than the atrix is almost every way. They're both great phones, IMO... but the SGS II is gonna be even better. And some phone that no one knows about that will be announced 2 months from now will be even better than the SGS II, lol.
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I would check online to see what the going rate for a used captivate is before offering it up + 100 for the Atrix. Compare that to the price for an off-contract atrix and you'll have your answer as to whether or not its a "fair" trade, value wise. Comparing the two phones to each other depends on how much you value aftermarket development. I'm a hardcore themer and that's why I kept my cappy. I haven't released anything for the Atrix yet, and I've had it almost since launch. I was able to get the Atrix through work at no cost, so it was win-win for me. Hardware wise, it is superior (except for the screen. Super Am. beats out the qhd 960x540 IMO). Development wise, there's no contest. Cappy is on Gingerbread. End of discussion. Its a trade-off either way. That's why I said wait for the SGS II to become available whereever you're at: dev friendly + hardware that is equal to or bettan than the atrix is almost every way. They're both great phones, IMO... but the SGS II is gonna be even better. And some phone that no one knows about that will be announced 2 months from now will be even better than the SGS II, lol.
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going rate for the captivate is around 300~ but then the atrix goes for alot more as well........
Maybe I should just wait longer for more dual core phones.....?
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I definitely wouldn't do it - the Captivate just has so much more to offer with a thriving developer community. The Atrix is supposedly on the verge of being rooted, but it will likely take awhile for things to really boom (and there's no telling when the root will even be successful). I have a few friends with the Atrix, and while it looks to be a decent phone, most complain about battery life and call quality.
I'm no fanboy - I'd jump ship from the Captivate tomorrow if the price was right and hardware/software looked to be legit, but right now the Captivate feels like one of the best possible phones a regular user and geek can have.
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I definitely wouldn't do it - the Captivate just has so much more to offer with a thriving developer community. The Atrix is supposedly on the verge of being rooted, but it will likely take awhile for things to really boom (and there's no telling when the root will even be successful). I have a few friends with the Atrix, and while it looks to be a decent phone, most complain about battery life and call quality.
I'm no fanboy - I'd jump ship from the Captivate tomorrow if the price was right and hardware/software looked to be legit, but right now the Captivate feels like one of the best possible phones a regular user and geek can have.
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The devs have already rooted the phone I think. They are trying to unlock the bootloader.
Don't do it OP. After messing around on an Atrix for awhile, it is a good phone but feels a little finnicky.
A captivate on GB feels a lot smoother than a stock Froyo Atrix IMO.
My opinion you would be paying for a downgrade
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Syntax3600 said:
I definitely wouldn't do it - the Captivate just has so much more to offer with a thriving developer community. The Atrix is supposedly on the verge of being rooted, but it will likely take awhile for things to really boom (and there's no telling when the root will even be successful). I have a few friends with the Atrix, and while it looks to be a decent phone, most complain about battery life and call quality.
I'm no fanboy - I'd jump ship from the Captivate tomorrow if the price was right and hardware/software looked to be legit, but right now the Captivate feels like one of the best possible phones a regular user and geek can have.
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its already rooted....only thign missing is the bootloader's still locked
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The devs have already rooted the phone I think. They are trying to unlock the bootloader.
Don't do it OP. After messing around on an Atrix for awhile, it is a good phone but feels a little finnicky.
A captivate on GB feels a lot smoother than a stock Froyo Atrix IMO.
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"finnicky"? don't get me wrong
I'm running CM7 and have tried other gingerbread ROM's on my captivate
but I kill the battery so fast and it slows to a halt once I try to multi task with browsing and stuff
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why would I be paying for a downgrade?
can you describe in more detail please if you don't mind
I'm digging the front facing camera, the working GPS, and the resolution bump.
The atrix doesn't run as hot when playing games (my backplate used to burn me) or when running GPS and the battery last considerably longer.
What do you do on your phone? If you read more news and the like, the screen is great. If you watch more movies on your phone, then you might like the sammy screen better.
The fingerprint reader is nifty as well.
I am weary of samsung's gps on the infuse and the SGS II so I will steer clear..
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I'm digging the front facing camera, the working GPS, and the resolution bump.
The atrix doesn't run as hot when playing games (my backplate used to burn me) or when running GPS and the battery last considerably longer.
What do you do on your phone? If you read more news and the like, the screen is great. If you watch more movies on your phone, then you might like the sammy screen better.
The fingerprint reader is nifty as well.
I am weary of samsung's gps on the infuse and the SGS II so I will steer clear..
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I do a mix of both.....
I think i've decided....atrix it is.....now just to wait for the other party to finalize the deal
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I do a mix of both.....
I think i've decided....atrix it is.....now just to wait for the other party to finalize the deal
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In the end it's your decision. The only way you can really go wrong is if you went to the extremely locked down iphone. Enjoy your new atrix my friend.
don't do it! I have a captivate and I just bought an atrix for $300 and was planning on selling my captivate. But after using the atrix for a couple of days I decided to sell the atrix instead. It is just a bad user experience. Mainly because of the screen and the lack of response. Whenever I would use the slider to slide through contacts, it would lose track of my finger and call someone on accident. Also it is an eyesore to look at when you are scrolling.
The wife signed up with AT&T and got herself a nice little WP7 phone today. I was thinking about adding a line and buying the Samsung Infuse for $100 from them and rolling with it.
Thing is... I've had my HTC Evo for over a year and I run MIUI. I have for a long time now. I want the faster phone, bigger screen... cheaper bill than my Sprint!
Ideas? Thoughts? Anyone done this switch? Evo to Infuse?
It looks like a bad ass phone.. I do love my Evo though... The Evo is pretty bad ass in itself IMO.
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The wife signed up with AT&T and got herself a nice little WP7 phone today. I was thinking about adding a line and buying the Samsung Infuse for $100 from them and rolling with it.
Thing is... I've had my HTC Evo for over a year and I run MIUI. I have for a long time now. I want the faster phone, bigger screen... cheaper bill than my Sprint!
Ideas? Thoughts? Anyone done this switch? Evo to Infuse?
It looks like a bad ass phone.. I do love my Evo though... The Evo is pretty bad ass in itself IMO.
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I rarely switch. I usually just add...lol
However, the Evo is a nice phone and is similar to the Inspire, which I have. But the Infuse is a much nicer phone with the SAMOLED+, larger screen, better audio chip and stronger CPU. The only thing it needs right now is Gingerbread. It's still on FroYo. But rumor have the GB update coming out by the end of this month.
The Infuse is much lighter and the battery life is much better than my Inspire. It's also elegantly styled. It has 16GB internal storage. I love mine and am glad to have it.
It's still on Froyo? Wow. I didn't think any device like this was still using Froyo.
That just stopped me dead in my tracks.
im on 2.3.5 myself ... CM7 FTW
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It's still on Froyo? Wow. I didn't think any device like this was still using Froyo.
That just stopped me dead in my tracks.
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It's Samsung, expect this.
Anyways, we've got GB ROM's already, and 3 leaks, so it's bound to be released any day now (also, the GB leak is a build from like a week ago, so it's VERY recent).
Don't worry about the "It doesn't have GB" things, we do have it, just not released by AT&T.
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It's still on Froyo? Wow. I didn't think any device like this was still using Froyo.
That just stopped me dead in my tracks.
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You gotta rememver its still a relitively new phone. Official GB is on its way and should be here soon. Honestly the infuse is what i picked to hold me over til the nexus prime or the new samsung, i forget the name, note? W/e. Seriously this is an awesome phone and you wont be disappointed.
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im on 2.3.5 myself ... CM7 FTW
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Hell, if they have CM for it then I think I can live with it. I'd miss MIUI though..
I will keep on pondering. Her phone should be here tomorrow and then I can sign up online with AT&T and add a line and all that over the computer. Then maybe I'll add myself a nice line with an Infuse.
I just posted by Evo on Craigslist. Doubt I'll get what I want for it.. http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/mob/2614360614.html
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You gotta rememver its still a relitively new phone. Official GB is on its way and should be here soon. Honestly the infuse is what i picked to hold me over til the nexus prime or the new samsung, i forget the name, note? W/e. Seriously this is an awesome phone and you wont be disappointed.
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Well it's a relatively new phone, but Gingerbread was already old news when it came out, so what's really sad is that AT&T released it without Gingerbread to begin with. Then again, it's probably better that they didn't take the half-assed approach that Rogers did. :/
That said, depending on what features you depend on and how good AT&T's HSPA+ network is in your area, you can run one of the Rogers-based GB ROMs without any significant problems. And of course, as has already been said, official AT&T GB shouldn't be very far off.
Honestly though, I'd wait if I were you. While the Infuse certainly is better in a few areas, the EVO's a perfectly good phone. And not to knock our devs at all--they do a great job--but CM7 isn't really ready for primetime over here. If you want to run MIUI on an Infuse, expect a fair amount of inconvenience compared to what you probably have come to expect on your EVO. If you want to switch to AT&T, the Galaxy S II will be out in a week and a half, or if you extend your timeline to a few months, you can see what LTE phones get released.
Its tough man...both great phones...i would stick with the evo...it has more roms and stuff no reason to jump to the infuse when in 6 months it will be way out dated...
Galaxy note perhaps? Unless its too big for you -
S7 Infuse 1.6 Ghz
if you are in a city with frys electronics you can get the infuse for $20, or add it online! maybe that makes it easier to switch
A few good phones coming out soon, I'd wait.
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here is the add, have till thursday at 9 to decide
I switched from my Evo to the infuse. I miss my Evo a lot (mostly development) but the infuse is all around better.
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Thanks
I think I'll wait a couple of months. Let's see what else AT&T comes out with soon. Since the wife will have AT&T for a long time I think I'll just hold off and strike at the perfect time.
Thanks everyone for the advice. XDA is truly a great place to be a member of.
We actually do have MIUI, although it's the 8.19 one it's great!
The only big problem is the SD card can't be accessed from MIUI, but we have 16GB internal storage which is great! If you happen to get one, just PM me and I'll send you a link.
Will do.
10vhar
fredexcav said:
if you are in a city with frys electronics you can get the infuse for $20, or add it online! maybe that makes it easier to switch
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here is the add, have till thursday at 9 to decide
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You sir, are AWESOME!
Thanks for the heads up, this is the best deal I've seen for the Infuse (even better than the $50 TargetMobile deal awhile ago).
Been waiting for the iPhone 5 to show its face but I just might go ahead and get the Infuse at this price.
Wonder if Fry's can waive the upgrade fee?...
I can't believe I'm not in a hurry to jump ship to the Galaxy S2. The Cappy has been such a good experience as a phone and it's still able to do whatever I need it to do. When the Fuze came out I couldn't help but be there the first day to pick one up. I was compelled to have the latest and greatest, and the abilities a new smartphone would allow. The same happened the release day of the Captivate.
Sure, it's had its issues (GPS and capped data speeds come to mind) but between the performance of hardware and the constant ROM updates from the dev community, I just don't feel that compulsion to move on from the Captivate. For me it's been a great phone and it's made me a big fan of Samsung's products. Oh I'll get a Galaxy S2 here in a month or two when the price comes down a bit. But I'm still happy with my Captivate and I'll keep it around as a backup.
ditto
i will likely wait until december unless the deal is too good to pass up.
Want to see what develops with the nexus prime.
Some info claims it will be a Verizon Exclusive but i am skeptical. I think that it is more likely we will see it launch exclusively on verizon with a 30-60 window before other carriers get it....so i am not giving up on the prime....the solid metal body construction alone will be worth the wait...just hope ATT gets it.
ill replace my cappy with Glalaxy Note .
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ill replace my cappy with Glalaxy Note .
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That is what has my attention as well...Galaxy Note.
I don't feel the need to upgrade from my Captivate either. Its a weird feeling, I use to be such a phone whore, now I look at new phones and feel they can't do a whole lot for me (personally, I know the phones are actually huge upgrades) that my Captivate can't do.
I HATE how ALL of the new phones being announced are so huge! 4.3" isn't TOO bad, but I do prefer my 4" screen. They're just getting bigger too, I want the Nexus Prime so badly, but there's no way I'm getting it with a 4.65" screen. My upgrade isn't until May 2012 and I'm questioning if there will even be a phone out there I like by then.
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first look at the nexus prime has a 4.6" 720p display
The captivate is a great phone. And always will be. But I jumped ship over to the inspire.
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ill replace my cappy with Glalaxy Note .
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I'm with you guys. Once the GS II finally came out, I am not as excited. The last ROM I put on is great and until that note comes out, paying 200 for the GS2 isn't so alluring.
Especially with LTE on horizon and the Note, which will be awesome.
It's like an old friend, even knowing something is better out there, I'm not ready to trade in my old worn in shoes
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first look at the nexus prime has a 4.3" 720p display
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The article says 4.6". It may not be so bad since that probably includes the buttons at the bottom, I'll just have to see it in person, but I still think it will be a very large device.
I'm a captivate owner and I really love it. I will not change it in a while..
The only two things that I don't really like in Captivate are very bad sensitive buttons (well, I replaced screen after it was broken, and than buttons were like that) and very bad battery life, especially with MIUI
But speed and functionality are just grear. And still love the screen with maximum brightness. I think I will buy Galaxy Note or Nexus Prime, will see...
I'm with you guys, but not by choice. I have a contract to fulfil.
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I'll also be waiting for the Note.
I just looked up the Galaxy Note. Wow...! That thing looks amazing. It might be just a bit too big but I'm really considering jumping on that.
I'm with you guys. There is no real reason to upgrade just yet. With a good custom ROM (Cog5), it does everything I ask of it, and does it quickly. The screen is just amazing, and only the SAMOLED Plus beats it, if you ask me. Since I'm not on contract, I can switch when I want, but I see nothing out there I just gotta have. The Prime may change that, but if it is CDMA, then I'm out. Big Red is too expensive for my blood.
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Can someone please link me some info on the Note? I'd never heard of it until now.
Oz. said:
Can someone please link me some info on the Note? I'd never heard of it until now.
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http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxynote/
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Great idea for a thread. My Captivate was my first Android phone. When I got it, I immediately started hacking it. Right now it's semi retired. My Galaxy S 2 is now my main phone.
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Great idea for a thread. My Captivate was my first Android phone. When I got it, I immediately started hacking it.
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I was in the same scenario.
sold my captivate and got a free iphone 4 from my company. I dont miss the phone bills but i can honestly say the Cappy ****s on the Iphone. ****ing hate this thing