Okay so cm7 has an option for using only 2g data... so I was wondering if using 2g data uses less data than regular data
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Ferrari353 said:
Okay so cm7 has an option for using only 2g data... so I was wondering if using 2g data uses less data than regular data
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You would be using the same amount of data download and upload as with 3g, it would just be slower.
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i've personally found pictures downloaded via G or 2G to be of much lower quality than when using 3G (even for the same picture) so I'd say it does use less data.
Ferrari353 said:
Okay so cm7 has an option for using only 2g data... so I was wondering if using 2g data uses less data than regular data
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I would say that, in some cases it would, but for the most part it just takes longer. The data savings is negligible. The real savings would be that you're less likely to do things that use data because it takes longer...
The real reason for have the option to switch between 2G/3G is to conserve battery in low 3G areas. Also, in areas of sparse coverage (or over-burdened with too many users) you wont be able to connect to the internet via 3G, yet your phone will continue to try instead of auto switching to 2G. Manually switching to 2G will allow you to connect. I had this problem at a convention last year (PAX).
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I would say that, in some cases it would, but for the most part it just takes longer. The data savings is negligible. The real savings would be that you're less likely to do things that use data because it takes longer...
The real reason for have the option to switch between 2G/3G is to conserve battery in low 3G areas. Also, in areas of sparse coverage (or over-burdened with too many users) you wont be able to connect to the internet via 3G, yet your phone will continue to try instead of auto switching to 2G. Manually switching to 2G will allow you to connect. I had this problem at a convention last year (PAX).
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im trying to find ways to make my phone use as little data bundles as possible...its using so much now even at sleep mode some app/s is chowing my data. im on 2.1 so 3G Watchdog app cannot tell me which app specifically is doing so, i switched to 2G, will that lessen my data usage? what other ways can i do it ? cant wait for 2.3 then i can know which app is chowing so mu ch data in sleep mode
Theoretically, data consumption will be the same, except it will take longer time to do a task (loading email or downloading picture) on 2G.
2G uses less Data if your Provider or Browser Proxy (Opera does something like this) uses a higher Compression Rate for Images...
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2G uses less Data if your Provider or Browser Proxy (Opera does something like this) uses a higher Compression Rate for Images...
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i cant wait for 2.3 to come out because then i will know what app is eating up my data even though im not using the phone...by the time i wake up in the morning my phone has already eaten btw 5-9 MB. on 2.1 there isnt an app to detect which specific app is eating the data.
Does 2.3 count this ? Sounds like a nice feature.. doeas somebody know a mod which ported thes feature already ?
By 2G i assume you mean GPRS or EDGE?
In which case, data transfer rates are lower but transfer amounts are the same.
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I recently flashed Firefly3 which enables HSDPA. Does hsdpa use up more data than the traditional 3g. I know they're the "same", but I only have a 200mb plan with att and I've already used about a 100mb in the first week of my billing cycle. I've had this phone for about 6 months and the most data I've ever used to this point is about 60mb for the entire month. I'm almost always on wifi. Does flashing rom use data? Is there a way to find what is using my data? wifi never sleeps, just trying to figure out what is doing this. Is it the ROM?
Flashing a rom won't use data. Apps running like email could be using data. What kinds of apps are you using everyday? I believe the 3g and h only differ in how fast data travels and does not effect how much data is used.
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Forgot to mention you can see what programs are running under apps from your home screen. I believe there are apps that will tell you what is using data.
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Almost all the apps I use are the same I've been using for awhile. Like i said i'm on wifi about 95% of the time. Something is chompin away at my data, just not sure what is. Does att have the ability to tell me what is doing this. For all I know it could be just one app.
3G watchdog might help you, it's on the market.
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Guess I'll try watchdog. thanks. glad it's not the rom, cuz i'm really liking this one so far.
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I recently flashed Firefly3 which enables HSDPA. Does hsdpa use up more data than the traditional 3g. I know they're the "same", but I only have a 200mb plan with att and I've already used about a 100mb in the first week of my billing cycle. I've had this phone for about 6 months and the most data I've ever used to this point is about 60mb for the entire month. I'm almost always on wifi. Does flashing rom use data? Is there a way to find what is using my data? wifi never sleeps, just trying to figure out what is doing this. Is it the ROM?
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Do you use speed test alot? It eats up slot of data every time you use it (about 6mb every time, if I remember correctly). Did you leave background on, our auto sync? They all take up data.
funny you mention it cuz i just thought about speedtest, i ran it about 4-5 times this weekend. prob the culprit. already uninstalled. didnt like the results anyway. they were making me feel inferior. thanks for the help both of u. much appreciated
Don't worry about using that stuff anyway, just numbers. What actually matters is how long web pages take to load and apps take to start, etc. Real life tests!
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HSDAP is enabled already in stock ROM. It is HSUPA that requires custom ROM (and most importantly non-AT&T modem).
Simply display a H icon (as a lot of custom ROM choose to) instead of 3G icon (as AT&T mandates all its phones to) doesn't mean you're downloading any faster.
The speed has little to do with how much data you will use per month. Of course, faster pipe will let you consume data faster but ultimately it is what you do determines how much data you use. a 1kB emails will only uses up 1KB of data regardless you're downloading it at 100kbps or 1mbps.
Emails and moderate web usage should leave you plenty of legroom on 200MB plan. Just don't do any kind of video or audio streaming or speed test (which they download and upload a large chunk of data to measure your speed).
dont use speed test the servers get busy and i think the carriers may be restricting some bandwith to them because it is used soo much. use the browser to go on speakeasy.com i get way faster connections to that.
to answer the original question, the captivate has hsdpa by default. any modem for a i9000 i9010 i9088 t959 or basically anything that is not a i897 or i896 will enable hsupa and hsdpa also known as hspa.
the difference being that rogers and att restrict the upload bandwidth except for the iphone by disabling hsupa on the phone. this is probably because they are afraid the since android is so flexible and hard to regulate that people will use there phones to do things that use huge amounts of data. if you limit the upload it makes things like video chatting jittery and it makes hosting multiple devices slow but most important it makes hosting anything basically useless while only having a small effect on browsing. hsupa shouldn't increase usage but it does increase speed.
turn off network based location, reject googles collecting annonomous location data when you flash a new rom and turn off any sync option that doesnt need to be on. you will also notice good battery life. then you might also want to find a rom with good add blocking. with all that you should see good battery life and less data useage.
They just turned on LTE in my area of Hawaii (though I don't think officially.) But it constantly switches back from 4G to 3G and vice versa. Sometimes it gets stuck with no data and I have to toggle airplane mode. My buddies phone in same spot could show 4G and mines 3G and vice versa. This significantly drains the battery and not a very good experience. My question is I noticed in the app that we used to turn off 4G there is an option for LTE Only, does anyone know of there would be any negative reprocussions on leaving it on 4G only? Like could it harm the phone, would any certain features/apps not work properly, etc?
I ran it like that today. Data connection seemed better and constant. When I looked at my phone throughout the day I did not notice a time where there was no data. My calls/texts/emails came through like normal. Battery seemed better. Left work with more battery than my LG Revolution which is normally the other way around. I did not run into any negative impact with setting it to LTE Only. Can anyone think of any warnings?
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All it does is set your radio to only use 4G. If you get to an areabthat has no 4g or wifi you would have to switch back to 3g or 3g/4g auto in order to get data.
No harm, just won't switch out of 4g unless you do it. Probably why the data lock is better and battery life as well.
If you get solid 4G just use LTE only and switch it if you loose 4G.
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They just turned on LTE in my area of Hawaii (though I don't think officially.) But it constantly switches back from 4G to 3G and vice versa. Sometimes it gets stuck with no data and I have to toggle airplane mode. My buddies phone in same spot could show 4G and mines 3G and vice versa. This significantly drains the battery and not a very good experience. My question is I noticed in the app that we used to turn off 4G there is an option for LTE Only, does anyone know of there would be any negative reprocussions on leaving it on 4G only? Like could it harm the phone, would any certain features/apps not work properly, etc?
I ran it like that today. Data connection seemed better and constant. When I looked at my phone throughout the day I did not notice a time where there was no data. My calls/texts/emails came through like normal. Battery seemed better. Left work with more battery than my LG Revolution which is normally the other way around. I did not run into any negative impact with setting it to LTE Only. Can anyone think of any warnings?
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You are fine running LTE only. All you will get with that is 4G & 1x, so either extremely fast data, or slow as a turtle. I use that setting almost all the time here in Jersey, I live right outside of NYC so I get constant 4G coverage. It does help with the battery life too.
Hi, im having a strange problem with my sensation,
It has occured since i bought it.
The problem is that when i dont use the phone for browsing, up/downloading and stuff like that which use data, the signal strengh is 3g with all the bars, but when i then goes on the internet it drops to edge with full bars, which off course makes the internet much slower, and it happens also with YouTube and all the other data app's on the phone.
I Hope somebody can tell me what to do.
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I'm going to guess that you have exceeded the amount of data allotted for your data plan. When you attempt to actively use your data the throttle that your service provider has placed on your account kicks in and leaves you with only edge service.
The only remedy for this is to wait for your next billing cycle to begin or to go and personally kick the CEO of your mobile phone service provider's ass.
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The only remedy for this is to wait for your next billing cycle to begin or to go and personally kick the CEO of your mobile phone service provider's ass.
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Personally, I think you should give the latter a try. Just saying.
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Hi, im having a strange problem with my sensation,
It has occured since i bought it.
The problem is that when i dont use the phone for browsing, up/downloading and stuff like that which use data, the signal strengh is 3g with all the bars, but when i then goes on the internet it drops to edge with full bars, which off course makes the internet much slower, and it happens also with YouTube and all the other data app's on the phone.
I Hope somebody can tell me what to do.
Kildenmaf
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Ok try this...in mobile networks select wcdma as default connection and restart the fone....then try to c if 3g is working fine....if it does then stay on that else u may again choose gsm/wcdma...
If he has indeed hit his cap limit, then you will stuck at 2G speeds. I really have never had to be at 3G in my area. Just 4G and when I hit my cap it's 2G for a while.. But it never shows 2G in the status bar... and that was even on my Tmobile G2
Hi, im sure that i didnt hit the limit. Its a new carrier im using and it allows me to use 5 gb in a month and i have had it for 4 days. Im pretty sure that i havent exceeded the amount limit yet
When Tmo is figuring out if you have used your 2gb's of "full speed" data, are they actually deciphering if you were using 4g or 2g? I would assume they can't and they are just counting all data (besides wifi) until you hit 2gb's and then throttling you.
Anyone have any info on this?
If you're hitting 2GB on 2G alone that'd be pretty amazing!
If you're talking about using 2G when you don't need full speed to save your quota, it'd still count I think, but at least it wouldn't get used up as fast!
I believe that's correct, meaning if you use 1GB of your plan on a 2g connection, it would still count towards that "full speed" quota.
Of course it counts towards your data limit.
Throttled speeds are lower than 2g speeds; therefore, 2g can be called high speed.
"High Speed" is a relative term.
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Thanks guys.
Yeah it goes towards the total.
If you really want to get yourself pissed off try this: setup a proxy server on a machine, then do all your internet traffic on your phone via your proxy. You'll find that t-mobile is off (in their favor of course) by about 18%. I'm working on a paper now that I hope to put online soon that shows all the logs and how t-mobile is RIPPING US OFF on what they SAY we use and what we REALLY use.
How are you taking into account all the data the core and downloaded applications the os pulls.?
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How are you taking into account all the data the core and downloaded applications the os pulls.?
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cause I have everything passing though a proxy.
Hope you know your tests are going to be inaccurate. Not going to go into detail but you are forgetting something. T-Mobile isn't ripping you off and they have no control over this.
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I have a unlocked g2x on cincinnati bell and they throttle at 5gb, which is better but still sucks. I was looking on my account online and my data usage was going up even on days I was at home all day, connected to wifi. I called customer service and found out that even if you are connected to wifi, if you have mobile data turned on in settings it still counts on your mobile usage data. Only way to use wifi and not have it count on your mobile usage is to turn mobile data off when using wifi. A bunch of bs if you ask me! You may want to check with tmobile and make sure this is not the case with them as well.
Also, there is a fix I found that is suppose to work with tmobile to disable the throttling. It has to do with altering the services.jar file on your phone. I tried it on my phone and it didnt work, i figured because cincinnati bell is using a different method to throttle people that tmobile uses. U may wanna look into this so after u get throttled u arent stuck with a unusable phone for the rest of the month. When i was throttled i could barely send email it was so slow! google 'disable data throttling on g2x' to find how to do it.
Is the built in WiFi Hotspot feature free? I don't think a warning comes up when I try to use it.
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Is the built in WiFi Hotspot feature free? I don't think a warning comes up when I try to use it.
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What do you mean "free"?
It is a built-in feature of the Sensation...
You don't have to pay to HTC to use it.
Your provide might charge you additionally when you use your data plan with any other device than your mobile.
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In another thread; comments were it's free as long as you don't "Overuse " the connection. Don't know what the limit is.
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In another thread; comments were it's free as long as you don't "Overuse " the connection. Don't know what the limit is.
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You're getting confused with a data plan. Using the WiFi Hotspot is free, unless you go over your data plan (unless your data plan is unlimited).
Example:
your data plan is 500mb
You use WiFi Hotspot and use 300mb
You use mobile browser and use 100mb - total used 400mb
You use WiFi Hotspot again and use 200mb - total used 600mb - OVER LIMIT.
So basically, using data in the browser or an app like Google Reader is the same as using WiFi Hotspot; you will not get charged unless you go over your data plan limit, which is set by your carrier (Verizon, Vodafone, O2, T-Mobile etc).
I'm with Tmobile and it's unlimited data, but your internet is capped after 2gb of data. I was just unsure if TMo will charge for using teh feature on your phone. I guess it's okay.
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I'm with Tmobile and it's unlimited data, but your internet is capped after 2gb of data. I was just unsure if TMo will charge for using teh feature on your phone. I guess it's okay.
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As redbullcat said, u don't get charged to use the app, just takes away from ur data. I for one use this feature a lot(5gb cap) at work since I don't have WiFi there and my 4G speeds r amazing.
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Note: As per a T-MobileUS rep here near Philadelphia, they are "working towards making it a pay-for feature". It's free for now.
Because hotspot works in infrastructure mode natively, I expect that wifi-tether will behave wonderfully even after TMO tries pushing the "feature".
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As redbullcat said, u don't get charged to use the app, just takes away from ur data. I for one use this feature a lot(5gb cap) at work since I don't have WiFi there and my 4G speeds r amazing.
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Awesome. I'm new to TMobile and I hope to get the Android Preferred Data Plan upgrade. Thanks!
T-Mobile may send you a text notifying you that if you choose to continue tethering, they will apply the $15/month Tethering option.
If you don't blow your data usage out if the water you probably won't receive anything.
I still have yet to figure out where the "abuse" limit has been set.
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