They just turned on LTE in my area of Hawaii (though I don't think officially.) But it constantly switches back from 4G to 3G and vice versa. Sometimes it gets stuck with no data and I have to toggle airplane mode. My buddies phone in same spot could show 4G and mines 3G and vice versa. This significantly drains the battery and not a very good experience. My question is I noticed in the app that we used to turn off 4G there is an option for LTE Only, does anyone know of there would be any negative reprocussions on leaving it on 4G only? Like could it harm the phone, would any certain features/apps not work properly, etc?
I ran it like that today. Data connection seemed better and constant. When I looked at my phone throughout the day I did not notice a time where there was no data. My calls/texts/emails came through like normal. Battery seemed better. Left work with more battery than my LG Revolution which is normally the other way around. I did not run into any negative impact with setting it to LTE Only. Can anyone think of any warnings?
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All it does is set your radio to only use 4G. If you get to an areabthat has no 4g or wifi you would have to switch back to 3g or 3g/4g auto in order to get data.
No harm, just won't switch out of 4g unless you do it. Probably why the data lock is better and battery life as well.
If you get solid 4G just use LTE only and switch it if you loose 4G.
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They just turned on LTE in my area of Hawaii (though I don't think officially.) But it constantly switches back from 4G to 3G and vice versa. Sometimes it gets stuck with no data and I have to toggle airplane mode. My buddies phone in same spot could show 4G and mines 3G and vice versa. This significantly drains the battery and not a very good experience. My question is I noticed in the app that we used to turn off 4G there is an option for LTE Only, does anyone know of there would be any negative reprocussions on leaving it on 4G only? Like could it harm the phone, would any certain features/apps not work properly, etc?
I ran it like that today. Data connection seemed better and constant. When I looked at my phone throughout the day I did not notice a time where there was no data. My calls/texts/emails came through like normal. Battery seemed better. Left work with more battery than my LG Revolution which is normally the other way around. I did not run into any negative impact with setting it to LTE Only. Can anyone think of any warnings?
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You are fine running LTE only. All you will get with that is 4G & 1x, so either extremely fast data, or slow as a turtle. I use that setting almost all the time here in Jersey, I live right outside of NYC so I get constant 4G coverage. It does help with the battery life too.
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I got the phone on day one. The first thing I noticed as I looked at the phone as I walked out the door to my car was the 4g icon. Yay, I am on 4g! Wait, where did the icon go? It's pretty much been that way since I have had it. I keep it on Wifi at home. To put it on 4g, pretty much kills having a MOBILE smartphone. Data is the lifeblood of a smartphone and if it is not there, what's the point.
I have tried every single fix read here (and other forums). Including:
Rev A fix
Hard Reset
Pulling Battery and Sim card and placing back in
I have tried everything but take the phone back and complaining (rooted it).
Per the Verizon coverage map, I am (my house) in a 4g area. On the map, they ask for your address and it say's "I am covered" for 4g. I will note there are a few pockets on the map near my home that is 4g extended. I had been thinking it's just my area. As I would drive around, it would seem to lock onto 4g. But lately, no matter where I go, 4g goes in and out.
When the 4g goes in and out, it is killing all data. It's not like it quickly finds the 3g and resumes data transfer, it just stops. Goes to 1x after a while mostley.
So where I am at right now is that I have forced 3g (using Phone Info app) and now can get reliable mobile data.
Should I be patience with the network and wait it out or should I take this back and ***** (possibly being the device itself)? When does one suppose a possible software fix will be put out for the Thunderbolt?
Hey Man,
I read your post and I am a little confused. In summary is your issue that you dont have great 4G coverage by your house and 3G isnt picking up when 4g drops off?
If thats the case I know you said you tried the Rev A fix but just to double check did you:
Use the ##778# menu (hit call after ##778#)-->password is 000000-->modem settings-->Rev A-->choose enable-->hit the menu button on the tbolt and commit changes
Also have you had verizon try to swap out your sim card and/or called them up and made sure your current sim card is provisioned correctly? If both of these are the case and you tried all the other standard stuff I would go get the phone swapped out for another new device before your time runs out. I had the same problem and the Rev A fix did it for me.
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What city are you in?
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What city are you in?
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Cincinnati area. Northern suburb. Close to towers and major highways.
Maybe return it and get a new TB?
I didn't have 4G in my home although Verizon's little "insert address" said I would. When I called, however, they said that I was on the border and it's a tough call for now.
When I started driving around to different areas, however, it picked up 4G signal just fine. When driving back into a 3G area it switched with no issue.
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What city are you in?
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And thats the right question to ask.
My 4G, in Los Angeles, is amazing. But Verizon is just starting to get 4G up and running in many cities right now, cant expect to have great coverage for many more months.
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Hey Man,
I read your post and I am a little confused. In summary is your issue that you dont have great 4G coverage by your house and 3G isnt picking up when 4g drops off?
jvward
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When the 4g drops, data stops. No icon. Sometimes 3g shows up. Mostly 1x. Lately, nothing. No icon, no data.
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Cincinnati area. Northern suburb. Close to towers and major highways.
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I'm in northern Cincinnati too. Contact me before you do anything.
Hey, I have had problems too. I work in the Tri-county area and have GREAT 4G coverage. If you look at the 4G map I am right on the cusp (Maineville) of coverage. In my house, it will rotate between 4g/3g/1x constantly. I downloaded the "LTE OnOFF" app from TeamAndIRC and will toggle 3G only when I'm at home. For some reason I STILL HAVE TO DO THIS even though I'm using wi-fi 100%. When I get to work I toggle to 4G. Doing this, my battery life is exceptional. Before I figured it out I was draining my battery overnight every night. I don't know why the wi-fi requires that 3G only be on but it works.
Almost, but hanging on by a thread....
I am new to Verizon and I picked this up the day after launch. My two weeks are up. I am not in the 4G area (home), but spend most of my waking moment in a 4G area (work). While the phone itself doesn't have a hard time switching between networks on the handheld (I've watched it go from 3 to 4G while driving, I can almost pinpoint the switching area), it does have a hard time when in WiFi Hotspot Mode.
Here's what I mean. I'll be on wireless tether in a 4G zone and then without notice, the phone reports (via Hotspot App) that there is no mobile network ready and there is no data connection icon on the top menu bar. My Xoom is much more reliable on maintaining a connection (3G of course).
This is my only complaint about the 4G network, but it's a small one. The handheld itself is wonderful. I'm keeping both for now.
Check out my speed test on WiFi tether.
Verizon confirmed on the phone with me that there is in fact a bug in HTCs software switching from 4G to 3G when coverage drops. It should be fixed... In the mean time make sure you are using an app from the market to switch to 3G only unless you need 4G.
Other than that, just return it and wait for something else.
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I'm in northern Cincinnati too. Contact me before you do anything.
Hey, I have had problems too. I work in the Tri-county area and have GREAT 4G coverage. If you look at the 4G map I am right on the cusp (Maineville) of coverage. In my house, it will rotate between 4g/3g/1x constantly. I downloaded the "LTE OnOFF" app from TeamAndIRC and will toggle 3G only when I'm at home. For some reason I STILL HAVE TO DO THIS even though I'm using wi-fi 100%. When I get to work I toggle to 4G. Doing this, my battery life is exceptional. Before I figured it out I was draining my battery overnight every night. I don't know why the wi-fi requires that 3G only be on but it works.
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LOL. I live straight down 747 in Liberty Twp. (few miles up from Beckett Ridge). Driving around would get me a better connection (4g) at first but lately, as I drive around, it's all over the board. Most the time there is no data icon. I have another app (Phone Info) that has a toggle.
It gets frustrating in that I don't know if the issue is the phone, network or both. Hard to troubleshoot. I suppose I should mosey on down to the mall for anything and see what kind of 4g I get.
I am in almost the same situation as the OP, I have 4G everywhere but my home which I have confirmed with VZW is in a 4G coverage area, not an extended coverage area either. I have narrowed it down to my street exactly. Right after I turn down imy street I lose 4G.
I then once I am home and no I don't mean indoors just at my house I frequently go between nothing, 1x, and 3G(Very Weak) with sporadic data. Will not get 4G back unless I drive around. This is my second device, and second trouble ticket with VZW this time giving more detailed information.
I have also tried every possible solution but unfortunately switching to Rev. A is not a "solution" for me as I am in a 4G area and if I wanted 3G I probably would have just kept my Droid X.
I sure hope this bug if it is one in the software will be fixed with an update or VZW can sort it out if it is my network.
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I'm in northern Cincinnati too. Contact me before you do anything.
Hey, I have had problems too. I work in the Tri-county area and have GREAT 4G coverage. If you look at the 4G map I am right on the cusp (Maineville) of coverage. In my house, it will rotate between 4g/3g/1x constantly. I downloaded the "LTE OnOFF" app from TeamAndIRC and will toggle 3G only when I'm at home. For some reason I STILL HAVE TO DO THIS even though I'm using wi-fi 100%. When I get to work I toggle to 4G. Doing this, my battery life is exceptional. Before I figured it out I was draining my battery overnight every night. I don't know why the wi-fi requires that 3G only be on but it works.
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Per my experience yesterday, if you are within the 275 loop, you are golden. Once I hit West Chester/Beckett Ridge, LTE started dropping. At my house, it is almost non-existent.
I am in a "4g extended area" where it constantly drops to 3g and constantly goes in and out. My battery is draining by increments of like 10% per hour while I am not using my phone. I am currently using the tesla 1.5 rom. Is there a possibility there is an issue with my sim card for this issue or just straight up a problem in verizons network? When I leave wifi on the battery doesnt constantly drain on standby any tips would be appreciated thanks
Try the LTE OnOff app on the market. Setting it to CDMA auto (prl) might help in spotty 4G coverage.
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If you're not in a good 4G area your battery will die very fast because the radio's are constantly searching and switching back and forth between 3G and 4G, you should either use LTE mode to try and lock on LTE only or turn LTE off completely and use CDMA Auto.
Same problem here as you. stuck in the grey area at home.
I would rather be in s grey area like you than nothing where I am.
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I am in a "4g extended area" where it constantly drops to 3g and constantly goes in and out. My battery is draining by increments of like 10% per hour while I am not using my phone. I am currently using the tesla 1.5 rom. Is there a possibility there is an issue with my sim card for this issue or just straight up a problem in verizons network? When I leave wifi on the battery doesnt constantly drain on standby any tips would be appreciated thanks
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I know your pain... I'm exactly 1/2 a mile from the 4G coverage area... im in the "Extended 4G area" and i'll be lucky if I get 3G on this phone let alone 4G... I have to use wifi to get data out there. Which is kinda annoying beacuse if I go to the local grocery store ( 1/2 a mile away ) I get blazing 4G ...
This NEVER happened with my DX or Fascinate... they were both on perfect 3G data.
Hopefully Big Red will "Turn up the volume" and get better signal to those of us on the outskirts of the Main 4G areas.
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I know your pain... I'm exactly 1/2 a mile from the 4G coverage area... im in the "Extended 4G area" and i'll be lucky if I get 3G on this phone let alone 4G... I have to use wifi to get data out there. Which is kinda annoying beacuse if I go to the local grocery store ( 1/2 a mile away ) I get blazing 4G ...
This NEVER happened with my DX or Fascinate... they were both on perfect 3G data.
Hopefully Big Red will "Turn up the volume" and get better signal to those of us on the outskirts of the Main 4G areas.
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I'm in the same situation as you, its annoying
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So after the now infamous 4G outage I did notice one important thing on my TB. That day I had the best battery life ever. First time I made it through the day without charging. Hopefully sometime soon we will have an official 4G on/off toggle. I know there is one that takes you to the service menu so you can change the settings but it would be nice to have one that you can just toggle 4G off to 3G then toggle back on without the extra steps.
I'm pretty sure we all knew this was the cause.. look at when the evo came out it had horrible battery life when wimax was still young
And when 3G came out it was killing batteries also... And the circle of life continues...
I'm not sure if I am lucky or what. I am rooted and running BAMF rom. I use my TB just how i used my OG droid and I still get 15 hours on a single charge. I also have full 4G coverage in my area. That might be the cause. I dont see the connection switching around between 3G and 4G. Stays at 4G
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So after the now infamous 4G outage I did notice one important thing on my TB. That day I had the best battery life ever. First time I made it through the day without charging. Hopefully sometime soon we will have an official 4G on/off toggle. I know there is one that takes you to the service menu so you can change the settings but it would be nice to have one that you can just toggle 4G off to 3G then toggle back on without the extra steps.
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Power 2 antennas will definitely use some juice. That's why individuals in non-4G markets (like myself), disable the feature to keep from constant searching.
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That's why individuals in non-4G markets (like myself), disable the feature to keep from constant searching.
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Agreed. I live in a 3G area, but work in a 4G area, and honestly didn't see much of a difference in normal usage except that my battery would die about 3/4 into the day with 4G enabled. Ever since I disabled 4G my battery lasts the whole day.
I am in a 3g area. Even before the outage my TB was always going from 3g to 1x. I called for help but it only continued. During the outage a fix was posted for a temp. fix to bring 3g back for those in a 3g area. The fix was to apply Rev. A. once I did this not only did I get 3g back but it remained stable and it was loading w a y faster then it ever has before. When I heard the 4g3g problem was fixed I followed the instructions to revert to the original setting. When I did the pages loaded slower like it always did. So I turned it back to Rev A. for good until I find myself in a real 4g environment. Oh and another big plus is that the battery has dramatically improved. So I am very happy leaving it like it is. Sweeet.
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I am in a 3g area. Even before the outage my TB was always going from 3g to 1x. I called for help but it only continued. During the outage a fix was posted for a temp. fix to bring 3g back for those in a 3g area. The fix was to apply Rev. A. once I did this not only did I get 3g back but it remained stable and it was loading w a y faster then it ever has before. When I heard the 4g3g problem was fixed I followed the instructions to revert to the original setting. When I did the pages loaded slower like it always did. So I turned it back to Rev A. for good until I find myself in a real 4g environment. Oh and another big plus is that the battery has dramatically improved. So I am very happy leaving it like it is. Sweeet.
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Are you still able to do voice/data at the same time running like that?
I did not notice any degradation in terms of battery life after the outage. I'm in 4G area and use LTE Only Mode, so everything is the same as before about 18hrs from a charge.
I did use voice and data at the same time . I was surprised that it actually worked.
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My wife just upgraded from the MyTouch Slide 3G to the Slide 4G. The 4G is constantly dropping to 2G so obviously the data speeds are terrible. Her Slide 3G usually always stayed in 3G in the same areas the 4G is now dropping. Anyone else experiencing this?
Did experience something like this at a friend's house.
Sounds like the problem that the one of the reviewers of the Sidekick 4G was having (ping-ponging between 4G and 2G). Not everyone was having that problem in the wild, though. Could be a coincidence that two recent physical keyboard-based 4G phones are having trouble holding their T-Mobile HSPA+ connections and skipping the 3G alternative, though it could be a bug with T-Mobile's HSPA+ at the tower or phone level. I don't know know the protocol rules on the handoff between 3G and HSPA+. Some reviewers have reported lower data rates than expected with the Slide. The Sensation supposedly has a death grip issue, so maybe there's a variation of that with the Slide (due to a different landscape hand position using the physical keyboard) resulting in 2G connections. Could be temporary capacity issues with your wife's local 3G/4G towers. Is this a constant problem or worse at different times of the day? I remember a few years back reading a report on 3G mobile streaming usage experiments in Europe that it only took like 8 people streaming on the same tower to saturate the tower's 3G capacity. Of course, the number should be higher with HSPA+, but just wanted to point out it is possible for a tower to get overloaded. Keep us posted. This is the kind of stuff that will determine whether I get the Slide and stay with T-Mobile.
I'm in MD and I'm constantly having this issue in my apartment. One minute I have 4g and the next I have 2g and it wont switch back until I restart the phone. I wont even be holding it and i see the issue. Dunno, at least I have 14 days to bring it back.
Had same issue with my sensation. Try going into settings and switching to just wcdma as opposed to it picking between gsm/wcdma. It is under wireless and mobile settings. That is assuming you are in a good 4g area. It will not show 3g
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Well i saw this happening on the 1st floor of my house. But it was in a hallway away from the windows. but when i moved it came back to 4g and stays there. I think it has do more with the tower and whats available in your area.
Should I ever see 3G on the phone? Currently it is only ever in 4G or 2G. I notice the manual mentions 3G also though. I was assuming it always said 4G even if it was really 3G, but now I'm not sure. Has anyone seen 3G at all for their signal? I'm wondering if there is a setting wrong on the phone.
For those of you that don't have the network settings, go to the market and download an app called Network, it's free. Scroll down to set preferred network type and chose WCDMA only.
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I'm in MD and I'm constantly having this issue in my apartment. One minute I have 4g and the next I have 2g and it wont switch back until I restart the phone. I wont even be holding it and i see the issue. Dunno, at least I have 14 days to bring it back.
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This issue is the phone itself. This is a verry buggy phone. Coming from a family g1 plan and were very excited but these phones have issues. Cant wait for root. Neways i know the 2g issue is that it gets stuck and u have to reboot. For ex. I tested in cordelane ID in near costco. Full 4g bars. Had 2 mt4gs's. One phone was in 4g and the other was stuck. I tried the old g1 trick they had in the beginning switching in and out of airplane mode. Did not work. Rebooted and it worked fine. Many other issues like all the time on both phones the widgets get stuck. U must slide to next screen than go back and widget works. Like i said i have 2 phones so i can troubleshoot and feel confident its not a glitch with a particular phone, etc. These phones suck.
am I the only one experiencing a weaker radio in this phone? I've had a bunch and with this phone in my basement I only get 3G (4G with every other phone) I'm also getting alot of dropped calls in my area. I know it's not just the phone as I've tried 3 and they all do the same thing. Is there a new Radio to flash for better service?
Also is there a way to remove the cover? The camera seems to have a haze behind the cover, it's never been dropped/spilled/etc.
I wouldn't say the radio is the worst reception wise but IT SUCKS with the 3g/1x/4g sometimes when I'm traveling I'll enter a 3g or even 1x area and when I get to a 4g area it's still stuck in 3g or 1x until I cycle airplane mode off then on again, drives me nuts sometimes. As far as signal strength it's on par with my galaxy s4 but not good as my old Droid or note 2 I'd say the radio is average but the 3g handoff thing is very annoying
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We're working on that all over the nation. Cdma or 1x will be totally phased out over the next year but how many of us are going to have m8's in a year? Every Ericsson and Verizon approved contractor is out there killing it right now trying to fine tune the network.
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When I first got the M8 on stock..I thought the radio was quite good. Once I rooted/S-Off and went to Viper ROM...still was quite good. THe last few eeks to a month..I've noticed the radio acting very oddly. In normaly strong 4G areas...it will just drop data and wont reconnect until I switch the mode (I use the old T Bolt LTE On/Off app) from CDMA + LTE/EvDO Auto to LTE, CDMA or just LTE ONLY to force a reconnect...but even then it will get stuck on 1xx in a strong 4g signal area. At that point only a radio off/on gets the 4G back.
Radio seems to be very "sticky" and stubborn once it gets off the 4G LTE these days. (I am in NJ....so the whole state is bathed in LTE)
Not sure what to do...it isn't per se terrible...but it is getting annoying.
Not as good as my iPhone 5 but much much better then my galaxy nexus.
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Before the M8, I had the thunderbolt, rezound and M7. The M8 is on par with all of those phones. I haven't noticed any signal difference. I'm in a pretty good 4g coverage area though. So I'm sure that helps.
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When I first got the M8 on stock..I thought the radio was quite good. Once I rooted/S-Off and went to Viper ROM...still was quite good. THe last few eeks to a month..I've noticed the radio acting very oddly. In normaly strong 4G areas...it will just drop data and wont reconnect until I switch the mode (I use the old T Bolt LTE On/Off app) from CDMA + LTE/EvDO Auto to LTE, CDMA or just LTE ONLY to force a reconnect...but even then it will get stuck on 1xx in a strong 4g signal area. At that point only a radio off/on gets the 4G back.
Radio seems to be very "sticky" and stubborn once it gets off the 4G LTE these days. (I am in NJ....so the whole state is bathed in LTE)
Not sure what to do...it isn't per se terrible...but it is getting annoying.
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I am having very similar issues but I am in California and very slow 4g speeds at times in areas that have always been pretty good (10-30mbps+). Now I'm lucky if I get 5 and sometimes it's so slow, speedtest fails with communication issues. Xlte areas don't seem to be having issues though as I consistently pull well over 70 down sometimes passing 100+. Seems like only the band 13 lte is the problem in my area. It is quite annoying and if they don't fix it soon, they better plan on crediting some of my bill because I can't even use my phone at work anymore.
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I am having very similar issues but I am in California and very slow 4g speeds at times in areas that have always been pretty good (10-30mbps+). Now I'm lucky if I get 5 and sometimes it's so slow, speedtest fails with communication issues. Xlte areas don't seem to be having issues though as I consistently pull well over 70 down sometimes passing 100+. Seems like only the band 13 lte is the problem in my area. It is quite annoying and if they don't fix it soon, they better plan on crediting some of my bill because I can't even use my phone at work anymore.
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Yup..exactly what I'm experiencing. Maybe with the XLTE implementation they're having handoff/communication issues with the older 3G/4G network.