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Fully utilizing internet connecting mode for bittorrent

[Win7]
When using the internet connection mode does the phone have a built in firewall or port blocker? My laptop was already connected to the internet through my home's WiFI internet and I was downloading off bittorrent using µTorrent. I was getting decent download speeds on my torrents, but almost nothing on upload. Knowing that the LTE network is more balanced and generally faster than my home network I connected my phone to my laptop via usb and selected internet connection mode.
At this time I noticed no difference and opened task manager to check network utilization. Task manager showed that my home network connection was being used and LTE was not being utilized at all. So I disconnected from my home network and waited for µTorrent to adjust to my phone's connection. After tinkering with some settings in µTorrent it showed the "!" at the bottom right notifying me that either the port I've selected is blocked or some other setting is stopping my connection from being used to it's full potential. I again check task manager and as far as network utilization goes it was around ~1% and my download speeds are far from what they should be, and far worse than when I was just on WiFi.
So I connect back to the WiFi and µTorrent starts behaving how it did before I tried to use my phone. Task manager shows more activity on the WiFi connection and still around 1% for the phone's connection.
My concern is how can I maximize LTE's potential when for bittorrent. Is there some kind of built in port blocker or firewall element? Or is it some kind of protection set up by Verizon and they know I'm using their network for bittorrent? I was getting consistent 5MBps Down and Up when I tested my laptop using internet connection mode, so network stability shouldn't be the issue. Any thoughts?

I haven't tested it, but I'd be willing to bet that the built-in internet sharing mode on the phone blocks certain ports. You could try using a tethering app like EasyTether or PDAnet.
Are you rooted? You could try Wireless Tether for Root Users, and see if you get any different results with that, too. I had some issues using VPN from my OG Droid because there were some blocked ports when using USB tethering, but once I rooted and started using Wireless Tether, all my problems went away. It'd be worth checking out. If you're not rooted, I would imagine that the wifi hotspot would act the same way (although it's only free for another week or so).

Sweet! Another person who's going to get us capped.

Ya, runniNg bittorents off your phone is RETARDED
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EEdaesung said:
[Win7]
When using the internet connection mode does the phone have a built in firewall or port blocker? My laptop was already connected to the internet through my home's WiFI internet and I was downloading off bittorrent using µTorrent. I was getting decent download speeds on my torrents, but almost nothing on upload. Knowing that the LTE network is more balanced and generally faster than my home network I connected my phone to my laptop via usb and selected internet connection mode.
At this time I noticed no difference and opened task manager to check network utilization. Task manager showed that my home network connection was being used and LTE was not being utilized at all. So I disconnected from my home network and waited for µTorrent to adjust to my phone's connection. After tinkering with some settings in µTorrent it showed the "!" at the bottom right notifying me that either the port I've selected is blocked or some other setting is stopping my connection from being used to it's full potential. I again check task manager and as far as network utilization goes it was around ~1% and my download speeds are far from what they should be, and far worse than when I was just on WiFi.
So I connect back to the WiFi and µTorrent starts behaving how it did before I tried to use my phone. Task manager shows more activity on the WiFi connection and still around 1% for the phone's connection.
My concern is how can I maximize LTE's potential when for bittorrent. Is there some kind of built in port blocker or firewall element? Or is it some kind of protection set up by Verizon and they know I'm using their network for bittorrent? I was getting consistent 5MBps Down and Up when I tested my laptop using internet connection mode, so network stability shouldn't be the issue. Any thoughts?
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I'm sure they block ports, and to be honest, I sincerely hope they block torrenting on a cell phone. Why not use your wifi?

As others have already stated use your home internet connection as I like having unlimited data.
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eallan said:
I'm sure they block ports, and to be honest, I sincerely hope they block torrenting on a cell phone. Why not use your wifi?
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It's because LTE's upload speeds are superior to my home connection. And for people worried about getting capped, there is no way I could get within the 10% of users who are throttled.
^_^_^

It's people like you that are going to ruin it for the legitimate rest of us. There is absolutely zero reason you should be torrenting on your phone, thats what your home connection is for. As mentioned earlier I hope that they do block the ports as I love my unlimited data plan knowing that I don't have to check my usage every 3 minutes like I would with att and their 2gb limit.
So in short, stop doing what your doing and ruining it for the rest of the U.S.

EEdaesung said:
It's because LTE's upload speeds are superior to my home connection. And for people worried about getting capped, there is no way I could get within the 10% of users who are throttled.
^_^_^
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Neither matters soon Verizon will take away the unlimited tethering plan and you will be sol. Even if you use a rooted wireless hotspot Verizon will know when you start racking up the gbs.
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I didn't realize it was such a big deal. Especially since it's a service I pay for, and I wasn't planning on torrenting the entire internet.
Since there are so many concerns of losing unlimited data, I'll think twice before using my phone's network to do any heavy downloading or uploading.
^_^_^

EEdaesung said:
I didn't realize it was such a big deal. Especially since it's a service I pay for, and I wasn't planning on torrenting the entire internet.
Since there are so many concerns of losing unlimited data, I'll think twice before using my phone's network to do any heavy downloading or uploading.
^_^_^
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First off you are not paying for the Mobile Hotspot service it is free until May 15th.
Second as of right now there is no real threat of losing the unlimited plan. Verizon has not said anything about taking it away and as of right now you could up and download 100gb of data and Verizon may say nothing. The problem is that we just don't know. We could wake up tomorrow and all have capped plans (As it is in the contract we all signed when we bought our phones Verizon can change the details of the data plans basically at any time they want) Yes there is like a 1% chance of this happening at the PR Verizon would get from this would most likely run them into the ground but the thought is still out there. And for most of us who only use ~5gb of data per month or less just don't want to worry about that odd month when maybe some new series comes out and they use 50gb.
TLDR: As of right now its more of just a fear of losing it than anything else and not really something to be too worried about ATM.

EEdaesung said:
I didn't realize it was such a big deal. Especially since it's a service I pay for, and I wasn't planning on torrenting the entire internet.
Since there are so many concerns of losing unlimited data, I'll think twice before using my phone's network to do any heavy downloading or uploading.
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Or at least posting here about doing so.

EEdaesung said:
It's because LTE's upload speeds are superior to my home connection. And for people worried about getting capped, there is no way I could get within the 10% of users who are throttled.
^_^_^
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There is a difference in using a phone to web browse, or to watch a movie or whatever, and maxing it out 24/7 and saturating the connection to torrent.
One is a bad idea IMO.

Got it guys. I agree with all previous posts. I don't want to get capped either and I won't be a factor towards it.
^_^_^

That's bull...you pay for it you use it how you want...I dare Verizon to come at me already and I told them I'm rooted...I ruin my OG Droid and they still replaced it...they make hundreds of millions of dollars and I pay an already high phone bill...too bad there is already an Frostwire app

currensy said:
That's bull...you pay for it you use it how you want...I dare Verizon to come at me already and I told them I'm rooted...I ruin my OG Droid and they still replaced it...they make hundreds of millions of dollars and I pay an already high phone bill...too bad there is already an Frostwire app
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LOL. Another reprobate weighs in.
"you pay for it you use it how you want"
So, exactly how much are you "paying" for tethering (not that which is currently offered as a freebie, but the theft of services your comment implies)? Your comment might be better phrased "you pay for it, I use it," since it's going to be paid for by someone, and if not by those who rationalize stealing it, then by the rest of us.
"they make hundreds of millions of dollars"
I'm guessing (assuming you're not still in Jr. High, as your attitude suggests), that you make thousands of dollars. So, I'd be justified in stealing from you, by your logic.
"I pay an already high phone bill"
If it's too high, it's very easy to cancel the service. Obviously, since you're posting in the TB forum, you have one, which means you've recently renewed your service. Which is it - you agreed that the value per dollar was acceptable, or you're just stupid?

You have to disable other connections after enabling internet sharing mode. Windows doesnt magically switch to a better connection on its own.
People should also remember that torrent does not mean illegal. He never mentioned what he was downloading. Apparently no one else in this thread has ever downloaded a linux distro, since bittorent is a primary way to do it. Certain games and game content are distributed legally through bittorent as well along with other software (generally opensource stuff).
The other day I didn't want to wait 30 minutes for aptitude to update my system on my 630KB/s average DSL, so I plugged in my phone to internet sharing on LTE and it was done in < 5minutes @ 2500KB/s average.
Verizon's network does not block ports as far as I know, but you are behind NAT, so you aren't going to be running any sort of server either on the public internet or easily connecting to your phone from a remote location.

Why do people take threads like this off the rails so quickly? The OP asked a simple question that didn't really warrant a philosophical decision. Imposing your will on the miniscule number of TB users who visit XDA won't make any appreciable impact on Verizon's attitude towards sanctioned network use.
OP, please report back if following "yareally"'s suggestion of disabling other connections works once ICS is enabled. Also, are you able to bridge your connection to the TB's in Windows? It'd be sweet to be able to merge WiFi (for speed) with LTE (for reliability).

currensy said:
That's bull...you pay for it you use it how you want...I dare Verizon to come at me already and I told them I'm rooted...I ruin my OG Droid and they still replaced it...they make hundreds of millions of dollars and I pay an already high phone bill...too bad there is already an Frostwire app
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If you use frostwire... you probably still have a myspace...
Lol at your made-up story, VZW is here on XDA also... they just might come at you bro...
In regards to the OP, lol at anyone who thinks this one single guy is going to be the downfall of unlimited data...

Nooter said:
OP, please report back if following "yareally"'s suggestion of disabling other connections works once ICS is enabled. Also, are you able to bridge your connection to the TB's in Windows? It'd be sweet to be able to merge WiFi (for speed) with LTE (for reliability).
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Nope, cant bridge them in windows and use both (that is, it's not as simple as selecting both connections and clicking bridge). There's some ways to distribute their use over *nix and/or using a router and using them as separate connections, but it's not worth the time/effort. If you're really interested in doing it, there's some discussions about it on the xda forums already and elsewhere if you google around.

[Q] HSDPA

I recently flashed Firefly3 which enables HSDPA. Does hsdpa use up more data than the traditional 3g. I know they're the "same", but I only have a 200mb plan with att and I've already used about a 100mb in the first week of my billing cycle. I've had this phone for about 6 months and the most data I've ever used to this point is about 60mb for the entire month. I'm almost always on wifi. Does flashing rom use data? Is there a way to find what is using my data? wifi never sleeps, just trying to figure out what is doing this. Is it the ROM?

Flashing a rom won't use data. Apps running like email could be using data. What kinds of apps are you using everyday? I believe the 3g and h only differ in how fast data travels and does not effect how much data is used.
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Forgot to mention you can see what programs are running under apps from your home screen. I believe there are apps that will tell you what is using data.
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Almost all the apps I use are the same I've been using for awhile. Like i said i'm on wifi about 95% of the time. Something is chompin away at my data, just not sure what is. Does att have the ability to tell me what is doing this. For all I know it could be just one app.

3G watchdog might help you, it's on the market.
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Guess I'll try watchdog. thanks. glad it's not the rom, cuz i'm really liking this one so far.

Cdub3 said:
I recently flashed Firefly3 which enables HSDPA. Does hsdpa use up more data than the traditional 3g. I know they're the "same", but I only have a 200mb plan with att and I've already used about a 100mb in the first week of my billing cycle. I've had this phone for about 6 months and the most data I've ever used to this point is about 60mb for the entire month. I'm almost always on wifi. Does flashing rom use data? Is there a way to find what is using my data? wifi never sleeps, just trying to figure out what is doing this. Is it the ROM?
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Do you use speed test alot? It eats up slot of data every time you use it (about 6mb every time, if I remember correctly). Did you leave background on, our auto sync? They all take up data.

funny you mention it cuz i just thought about speedtest, i ran it about 4-5 times this weekend. prob the culprit. already uninstalled. didnt like the results anyway. they were making me feel inferior. thanks for the help both of u. much appreciated

Don't worry about using that stuff anyway, just numbers. What actually matters is how long web pages take to load and apps take to start, etc. Real life tests!
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HSDAP is enabled already in stock ROM. It is HSUPA that requires custom ROM (and most importantly non-AT&T modem).
Simply display a H icon (as a lot of custom ROM choose to) instead of 3G icon (as AT&T mandates all its phones to) doesn't mean you're downloading any faster.
The speed has little to do with how much data you will use per month. Of course, faster pipe will let you consume data faster but ultimately it is what you do determines how much data you use. a 1kB emails will only uses up 1KB of data regardless you're downloading it at 100kbps or 1mbps.
Emails and moderate web usage should leave you plenty of legroom on 200MB plan. Just don't do any kind of video or audio streaming or speed test (which they download and upload a large chunk of data to measure your speed).

dont use speed test the servers get busy and i think the carriers may be restricting some bandwith to them because it is used soo much. use the browser to go on speakeasy.com i get way faster connections to that.
to answer the original question, the captivate has hsdpa by default. any modem for a i9000 i9010 i9088 t959 or basically anything that is not a i897 or i896 will enable hsupa and hsdpa also known as hspa.
the difference being that rogers and att restrict the upload bandwidth except for the iphone by disabling hsupa on the phone. this is probably because they are afraid the since android is so flexible and hard to regulate that people will use there phones to do things that use huge amounts of data. if you limit the upload it makes things like video chatting jittery and it makes hosting multiple devices slow but most important it makes hosting anything basically useless while only having a small effect on browsing. hsupa shouldn't increase usage but it does increase speed.
turn off network based location, reject googles collecting annonomous location data when you flash a new rom and turn off any sync option that doesnt need to be on. you will also notice good battery life. then you might also want to find a rom with good add blocking. with all that you should see good battery life and less data useage.

Wind Users and Personal hotspot?

Anyone using personal hotspot with this phone on winds unlimited data?? i have the super smart plan just wondering if they would charge us for tethering? i know this may not be teh correct forum, but highly more people from wind are here so jsut want to know i might be switching internet at home so i want to know if i can use my phone till they reconnect it thanks

from everything i've read about WIND and a plan that has unlimited data, but does not specify tethering... you CAN do it and will NOT be charged. i have the holiday miracle plan so i dont care, but from what ive read you should be okay. maybe wait for another response but im pretty certain...

I'm on WIND, they have a "tethering add-on", all it does is up your data from 5GB to 10GB, but either way you can do tethering (without the tethering add-on), assuming you have a ROM that supports it (I dunno if the stock ROM has that option).
I do tethering on WIND without the tethering add-on, no extra charges. Just know that it says "unlimited", but your data speeds will be throttled once you hit 5GB

Hey i use it all the time. I've had multiple devices connected at the same time and never had any issues from Wind.

thats sick! what speed do they throttle it at? - i usually get 2mb internet speed in my area, its nice for light gaming ;3 and if anything my sister has teh exact same plan so could just do when my 5GB are up

ed116 said:
thats sick! what speed do they throttle it at? - i usually get 2mb internet speed in my area, its nice for light gaming ;3 and if anything my sister has teh exact same plan so could just do when my 5GB are up
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If I remember correctly, the customer service rep said they cut the speed by half if you go over the 5GB, but this is from a while ago so I could be wrong. Either way, I doubt their speed is good enough for online gaming, it's terrible in my area but it works, so can't really complain

haha thats true, its 2mbs though and when iw as at eglinton stn i got around 6mbs/ so im thinking even if they cut it in half ill still browse normally which isnt bad and might be able to handle CSS? xD

How are you gonna play css with 200+ ping? Sometimes 400
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How are you gonna play css with 200+ ping? Sometimes 400
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Aio wireless?

Has anyone heard of it? I know they are a sister company to att and they use their towers. But I have a sprint Nexus 5 if I switch and put their sim in my phone will it work?
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AIO is AT&T's prepaid subsidiary and yes it will work. All Nexus 5's are the same no matter where you purchased them from. There is no carrier branding or carrier locking on the N5. From what I hear, AT&T severly throttles date for AIO customers, so if data speed is important, you might want to consider T-Mobile prepaid or StraightTalk.

I use it now. As you probably know, they have a $40, $55, and a $70 plan, with data amounts of 250MB, 2GB, and 7GB, respectively. You get throttled to 2G after you hit your soft cap. Unlimited texts and minutes are included in all plans.
I've had it for 4 months now and can't complain. Their service in my area is good, and the speeds are up to snuff what what I need at least. The most data-intensive thing I do is stream "High quality" music from Pandora One, and it does that without a hitch. Can't comment on streaming video because I never do. One thing to keep in mind though, they cap your data speeds even before hitting you soft-cap. From their website:
If you run out of high speed data access in a given month, your access speeds will be reduced for the remainder of your month of service. But once your next month of service begins, you will once again have access to download speeds up to 4 Mbps on our 4G HSPA+ service or up to 8 Mbps with our LTE service.
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So no matter what, the fastest download speeds you can get is up to 4Mbps on HSPA+ and 8Mbps on LTE. Again, if that affects you then that's something to consider. It is good enough for me though.

I've used their $70 plan now for 2 months on the N5. It works fine except for at work. It's known at my work that att frequency is blocked by the buildings structure (metal walls, ceiling and metallic tinted windows) so I literally have 2 bars outside and zero signal inside. I will be switching to T-Mobile because of this. If it weren't for that I'd definitely stay.

Cool thanks for all the help. I might be getting a job at an Aio store and they have an employee plan $55 for 5gb so I was thinking if I get the job I might switch cuz sprint sucks haha
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vwgti18 said:
Cool thanks for all the help. I might be getting a job at an Aio store and they have an employee plan $55 for 5gb so I was thinking if I get the job I might switch cuz sprint sucks haha
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Heh I didn't know they even had brick and mortar Aio stores...

I switched from Verizon (had unlimited data) to AIO and have been enjoying it for 3 months now with no issues. Speeds are fast and I love it. I'm on the $55 a month plan.
I should tell you though that ATT is about to roll AIO into the Cricket brand. ATT owns Cricket now and it will be nationwide LTE just like AIO (if it's not already).

I have the $55 plan and service has been great, LTE at home, work and the commute. Streaming music and tethering works fine. Customer service has also been great as they helped me with the APN settings, which should be posted on their website, but are not. Some negatives are the slow ping on speed tests, a few second delay for the connection on phone calls and the Cricket factor.
Sprint and T-mobile signals are non-existent at work, so my options were limited.

what's the speed of the throttle
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I just got off phone and online chat with AIO customer service... It is the worst, they couldn't get mms to work on my Note 2 and made me power cycle thinking it would work. I am done and want to warn everyone I can.
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I considered the $55 AIO plan when I got my nexus 5, but ultimately went with the $60 AT&T GoPhone plan instead. Same amount of data, essentially the same price, same AT&T network, and no throttling of speeds.
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I too have AIO, after finding out they don't allow VPN on cellular data I'm probably going to switch to AT&T Go Phone after I get my free month unless one of the other "unlimited" prepaid carriers that uses AT&T towers supports VPN usage. I don't often go over the 2GB amount, but I did about 1/3 of the time on VZW with unlimited, part of that was tethering due to slow hotel internet and stupidly fast LTE and unlimited data. So guess I'll put in chat sessions with tech support to find out if VPN is supported over cellular data before I commit.
Also, going to chime in and mention that it took me about 10 minutes of back and forth with tech support on the phone to get them to understand what my problem was. Also, setting up SMS was slightly annoying as they didn't tell me the exact correct thing to put into the phone. However, I simply had to click "Refresh" then "Update" for the SMSC(?) number to self populate and then work fine. Prior to that I had MMS working fine both ways (after inputting the APN settings from around the web and now their site).
I'd consider T-mo but I go to many rural areas where they simply don't have coverage for work and would like to be able to stay in touch.

METDeath said:
I too have AIO, after finding out they don't allow VPN on cellular data I'm probably going to switch to AT&T Go Phone after I get my free month unless one of the other "unlimited" prepaid carriers that uses AT&T towers supports VPN usage. I don't often go over the 2GB amount, but I did about 1/3 of the time on VZW with unlimited, part of that was tethering due to slow hotel internet and stupidly fast LTE and unlimited data. So guess I'll put in chat sessions with tech support to find out if VPN is supported over cellular data before I commit.
Also, going to chime in and mention that it took me about 10 minutes of back and forth with tech support on the phone to get them to understand what my problem was. Also, setting up SMS was slightly annoying as they didn't tell me the exact correct thing to put into the phone. However, I simply had to click "Refresh" then "Update" for the SMSC(?) number to self populate and then work fine. Prior to that I had MMS working fine both ways (after inputting the APN settings from around the web and now their site).
I'd consider T-mo but I go to many rural areas where they simply don't have coverage for work and would like to be able to stay in touch.
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Have you found any that will allow VPN? I'm on Straight talk ATT currently and it does not allow VPN either.

I cannot speak to what AIO's actual policy is on VPN traffic but I can say that I've been on their network for almost 2 months now and have had no issues using VPNs. Perhaps they just have not caught it yet but so far so good. YMMV.
Edit: So I've been looking through their terms and can't find anything specifically mentioning VPNs or tunnels but they do have some pretty standard clauses about only using your data connection for approved activities. This certainly gives them the right to block types of traffic they don't approve of but it doesn't mean they are actively policing it either. Would love to find a more solid answer on this.
Data Services  Permitted Uses
Aio provides wireless data and messaging Services, including, but not limited to, features that may be used with Data Services and wireless content and applications (Data Services). Our Data Services are intended to be used for the following permitted activities: (a) web browsing; (b) email; (c) intranet access; (d) uploading and downloading applications and content to and from the Internet; and (e) using applications and content without excessively contributing to network congestion. You agree that Aio may engage in any reasonable network management practice and that you will use Aios Data Services only for these permitted activities.
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Well, the one rep I spoke to on the phone said they didn't allow it. I will try talking to a chat tech when I'm home again and can test it. I know I have the VPN working because I can connect over Wi-Fi (not at home) and it works perfectly. I've tried to connect over cellular at home, and on the road, never worked. I've got all the APN settings correct and SMS working, so I don't believe it to be a configuration issue.

Verizon 4g Lte as my Broadband at home, need some insight

So Ive done some searching and since Verizons new unlimited plan is only about 5 days old Im stuck sifting through 100s of grandfathered unlimited plan posts searching for hotspot hacks. That being said heres my scenario.
My house is rural, I wouldnt consider it rural but apparently Im rural enough for the utility companies to find it rural. Never thought 2 miles off a major highway would constitute that but anyways. This means Im in a situation a lot of people are in. I like my privacy, IE owning property and not being on top of my neighbors, but I also grew up tech savvy and playing games. Im heavily dependent on the internet and like my MMORPGs... Im never expecting to replace my satellite TV with streaming for the record.
Im trying to find my best internet option. Ive been through the gambit here... Hughes net, Excede, and now on to a local fixed wireless provider. Im semi satisfied with my fixed internet provider and its been the best of the 3 but Im still stuck at 4g speeds although no data cap. My biggest issue is varying speed with them and Ive taken this concern up with them a couple times but Ive never been provided with a real solution. I was fed a BS answer of "maybe try having less things wifi'd". Im signed up for 5-7mbps with no data cap at the moment for $75 a month. If I received a steady signal I would be very happy with that. Sure its not great for heavy internet browsing but playing an MMO it would be great. But then it happens, I get .5mbs down randomly and a 400ms ping...
Ok so sorry for the long back story. My biggest concerns here are hitting a consistent connection with a moderate data cap. What Im looking into doing is adding a hotspot and upgrading my verizon plan to the new unlimited with an exterior 4g lte cell amplifier. 1 mile away as the crow flys I get 50mbps down and 70 ping on the highway on my phone...
So Im curious if there's any hack or mod to beat out these stupid 10 gig 4g lte speed caps they've placed on the hotspots? Or maybe theres a better combination of hardware I could use here that would be blind to verizon?
If theres a better section or even a forum out there more oriented towards what Im trying to do?
Thanks

stomis said:
So Ive done some searching and since Verizons new unlimited plan is only about 5 days old Im stuck sifting through 100s of grandfathered unlimited plan posts searching for hotspot hacks. That being said heres my scenario.
My house is rural, I wouldnt consider it rural but apparently Im rural enough for the utility companies to find it rural. Never thought 2 miles off a major highway would constitute that but anyways. This means Im in a situation a lot of people are in. I like my privacy, IE owning property and not being on top of my neighbors, but I also grew up tech savvy and playing games. Im heavily dependent on the internet and like my MMORPGs... Im never expecting to replace my satellite TV with streaming for the record.
Im trying to find my best internet option. Ive been through the gambit here... Hughes net, Excede, and now on to a local fixed wireless provider. Im semi satisfied with my fixed internet provider and its been the best of the 3 but Im still stuck at 4g speeds although no data cap. My biggest issue is varying speed with them and Ive taken this concern up with them a couple times but Ive never been provided with a real solution. I was fed a BS answer of "maybe try having less things wifi'd". Im signed up for 5-7mbps with no data cap at the moment for $75 a month. If I received a steady signal I would be very happy with that. Sure its not great for heavy internet browsing but playing an MMO it would be great. But then it happens, I get .5mbs down randomly and a 400ms ping...
Ok so sorry for the long back story. My biggest concerns here are hitting a consistent connection with a moderate data cap. What Im looking into doing is adding a hotspot and upgrading my verizon plan to the new unlimited with an exterior 4g lte cell amplifier. 1 mile away as the crow flys I get 50mbps down and 70 ping on the highway on my phone...
So Im curious if there's any hack or mod to beat out these stupid 10 gig 4g lte speed caps they've placed on the hotspots? Or maybe theres a better combination of hardware I could use here that would be blind to verizon?
If theres a better section or even a forum out there more oriented towards what Im trying to do?
Thanks
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There is no way to hack your data limit or data speed, that's all controlled on the network, not on the device.
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Droidriven said:
There is no way to hack your data limit or data speed, that's all controlled on the network, not on the device.
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I kind of figured that. Maybe I worded this poorly. What I'm curious is if there's some sort of way to mask the tethering. Like if I purchase my own 4G LTE modem and then transfer a sum card from an existing unlimited device into the modem, is verizon going to know to cap my data at a 10gb tether or are they simply going to think it's still a tablet and give me 22gb full speed? And I guess the second question would be is there something I can manipulate on my end to "fool" what type of device is connected kind of like how people used to tether the grandfathered phones by swapping the SIM cards and editing some network configuration in the phone?

stomis said:
I kind of figured that. Maybe I worded this poorly. What I'm curious is if there's some sort of way to mask the tethering. Like if I purchase my own 4G LTE modem and then transfer a sum card from an existing unlimited device into the modem, is verizon going to know to cap my data at a 10gb tether or are they simply going to think it's still a tablet and give me 22gb full speed? And I guess the second question would be is there something I can manipulate on my end to "fool" what type of device is connected kind of like how people used to tether the grandfathered phones by swapping the SIM cards and editing some network configuration in the phone?
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Well, with those questions, it isn't whether or not it can or can't be done. It's a matter of XDA not allowing this kind of discussion. We can discuss "how" to tether, but we can't discuss cheating the system, your limit is your limit, and your plan is your plan on the device you get the plan on, that's it.
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There is no way to hack your data limit or data speed, that's all controlled on the network, not on the device.
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Droidriven said:
Well, with those questions, it isn't whether or not it can or can't be done. It's a matter of XDA not allowing this kind of discussion. We can discuss "how" to tether, but we can't discuss cheating the system, your limit is your limit, and your plan is your plan on the device you get the plan on, that's it.
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Although I don't understand how this is any different than bypassing the tethering ban back in the day I'll leave it at that and say ok, thanks for your help.

stomis said:
Although I don't understand how this is any different than bypassing the tethering ban back in the day I'll leave it at that and say ok, thanks for your help.
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Because it's a subject of splitting hairs.
It breaks down like this.
While enabling tethering on devices/plans that aren't supposed to have the option is frowned upon by the carriers, it is not illegal, nor does it exceed any preset data limits. Yes, you can tether when you aren't "supposed" to but it doesn't allow you to exceed your data limit, meaning, they lose no money. You're only using data that you've already paid for, you're just doing something they don't like by using that data in a different way.
On the other hand, when you get into hiding data to get more than the prescribed limit or faking which device they think it is, then they are losing money because you're cheating them by using more data than was paid for or by using a device that isn't approved for the plan.
On devices with unlimited plans, there is effectively no money "lost", you're just using more data than they expect for the average user, which can lead to them seeing it and throttling your data or even cutting you off completely.
It's all subjective, in other words, do what you want with the device itself but don't screw the network.
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Droidriven said:
Because it's a subject of splitting hairs.
It breaks down like this.
While enabling tethering on devices/plans that aren't supposed to have the option is frowned upon by the carriers, it is not illegal, nor does it exceed any preset data limits. Yes, you can tether when you aren't "supposed" to but it doesn't allow you to exceed your data limit, meaning, they lose no money. You're only using data that you've already paid for, you're just doing something they don't like by using that data in a different way.
On the other hand, when you get into hiding data to get more than the prescribed limit or faking which device they think it is, then they are losing money because you're cheating them by using more data than was paid for or by using a device that isn't approved for the plan.
On devices with unlimited plans, there is effectively no money "lost", you're just using more data than they expect for the average user, which can lead to them seeing it and throttling your data or even cutting you off completely.
It's all subjective, in other words, do what you want with the device itself but don't screw the network.
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Right. I'm really not trying to screw them. I just want my 22gb as they see fit on a device on my hotspot... I don't understand why devices are subject to better rules that the hotspot. If they have the bandwidth to bump me back to 4G LTE after I hit the cap then they shouls, not lock me down to 3g, over pribicple...