What purpose do these packages:
Phone.apk
TelephonyProvider.apk
serve on a wifi only device?
I've renamed these on my wife's nook color to supposedly save some battery live.
Does this need to be done on the XOOM too?
or do they just sit there and never actually run?
With the nook color and the roms available for it are phone roms. With the honeycomb rom on the Xoom its a tablet only rom that doesn't have the same files as the froyo and gingerbread roms.
That's not helpful.
Which is why I think its weird that Phone.apk, and TelephonyProvider.apk are on my XOOM with HC 3.1
You might have noticed in the OP that I asked what purpose they served.
SIP Phone support and they are disabled by default
honeycomb is gingerbread
honeycomb is written or was written over gingerbread. it has recently come out that honeycomb was not written from scratch as claimed by google. it was not written to be a tablet specifc system. it was simply a few tweek on gingerbread with UI changes. for proof, there have been several post on the internet where people can simply change the lcd density, by lowering it it will change to gingerbread UI, so basically honeycomb will someday be on phones as honeycomb and not gingerbread. here is a link to pcword article. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2385710,00.asp, or search google for keywords "LCD Density Change Honeycomb to Gingerbread"
lol yea I saw that just a few days ago, either on the XDA blog or the androidcentral one, I forget which.
So are we assuming that when its running in HC mode that the Phone, TelephonyProvider, Mms, and VoiceDialer (etc. if more) services are disabled automatically?
They don't take up that much space, but still kind of waste if they aren't going to be used on whatever device the OS is being installed on. *shrugs*
Google has already stated that as of Ice Cream Sandwich (God these names...) they intend to run a single version of android across all devices -- phones, tablets, mp3 players, toasters, "personal" massagers....you name it. Therefore there may already be some apks that can't be used on all devices. As for the phone.apks, remember that some devices that have/will have honeycomb also have phone capabilities, such as the Galaxy Tab line.
If you want to delete the phone apps go for it, I doubt it will cause a problem...but I am not sure if it would be worth the effort.
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Google has already stated that as of Ice Cream Sandwich (God these names...) they intend to run a single version of android across all devices -- phones, tablets, mp3 players, toasters, "personal" massagers....you name it. Therefore there may already be some apks that can't be used on all devices. As for the phone.apks, remember that some devices that have/will have honeycomb also have phone capabilities, such as the Galaxy Tab line.
If you want to delete the phone apps go for it, I doubt it will cause a problem...but I am not sure if it would be worth the effort.
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I saw thread in BRD's honeycomb 3.1 post where a user deleted the phone and 3g .apk,s. His Xoom started looping and he had to do a nandroid restore.
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I saw thread in BRD's honeycomb 3.1 post where a user deleted the phone and 3g .apk,s. His Xoom started looping and he had to do a nandroid restore.
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....or maybe I am wrong and it WILL mess you up. Not worth the risk.
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rschenck said:
Google has already stated that as of Ice Cream Sandwich (God these names...) they intend to run a single version of android across all devices -- phones, tablets, mp3 players, toasters, "personal" massagers....you name it. Therefore there may already be some apks that can't be used on all devices. As for the phone.apks, remember that some devices that have/will have honeycomb also have phone capabilities, such as the Galaxy Tab line.
If you want to delete the phone apps go for it, I doubt it will cause a problem...but I am not sure if it would be worth the effort.
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I wonder if Ice Cream Sandwich is suppose to unify all android devices....and a toaster...then does that mean that all android versions up to now have been google beta testing stuff piece by piece?
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....or maybe I am wrong and it WILL mess you up. Not worth the risk.
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I agree, not really worth it.
The services aren't running, or seem to be doing anything at the moment.
But if they want 1 install to rule them all it would make sense (to me) that maybe the installer should notice that the device, has or has not, the hardware necessary to use the services before installing them.
No sense in loading the APKs for the camera or cell radio on a device that doesn't have them like a toaster. Likewise, no need for a toastiness level utility on a NOOK or Nexus S.
Its just waste of limited toaster storage space.
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I agree, not really worth it.
The services aren't running, or seem to be doing anything at the moment.
But if they want 1 install to rule them all it would make sense (to me) that maybe the installer should notice that the device, has or has not, the hardware necessary to use the services before installing them.
No sense in loading the APKs for the camera or cell radio on a device that doesn't have them like a toaster. Likewise, no need for a toastiness level utility on a NOOK or Nexus S.
Its just waste of limited toaster storage space.
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In a world of only intelligent, savvy users who are paying attention, I totally agree....but that is not going to happen.
If YOU had to pay the support bill, would you trust mainstream users to choose the right features and modules for their device, or would you just install everything and let some apks just take IP space?
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In a world of only intelligent, savvy users who are paying attention, I totally agree....but that is not going to happen.
If YOU had to pay the support bill, would you trust mainstream users to choose the right features and modules for their device, or would you just install everything and let some apks just take IP space?p
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sadly, you're probably right.
But I would release 2 separate installs, an Auto for the people that shouldn't be messing with it, and a manual install for the rest of us who want the choice, and understand the implications of our actions.
While we're dreaming how about some 512TB microSDXC cards for everyone? lol
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how come there aren't alot of tablet apps? How difficult is it to upscale or modify the app to be tablet native? (not being sarcastic)
kanyewest said:
how come there aren't alot of tablet apps? How difficult is it to upscale or modify the app to be tablet native? (not being sarcastic)
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Not all the devs have xooms yet,
Wait till IO and we will see a bunch of new and existing apps for honeycomb
If you download Spare Parts and disable compatibility mode it will full scale the apps that are fixed to phone dimensions
Most of the time, its not as simple as the developer getting a new SDK and rebuilding with it. New SDK's cause new bugs and new instabilities.
They have to remake all new art work for larger screens and high resolutions so that takes time.
And the Android Tablets aren't exactly "readily available" like Android phones are. Guys who are coding at home on weekends may not have the cash to pick one up right now. (That accounts for a lot of apps) Big companies also want to see how the market reacts to tablets before they invest in development of software for one when the entire market could flop (Doubtful, but not without its risk).
I'm an android developer in my day job and I promise you, if you want apps that really take advantage of honeycomb they have to be rebuilt from the ground up in the interface department at least. There are some exceptions but on the whole...
Be patient and the updates will come.
I'm even working on a couple of apps at home specially for the XOOM.
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Since this is the first tablet that dropped with Honeycomb, it might be a bit for everyone to catch up. The same thing happened when Windows computers went from XP to Win 7 OS. It took a bit for the software developers to remake newer versions.
Its strange that we dont even see support (right now) for big companies like facebook or twitter. or even some other google apps dont have that support yet.
jerses said:
Its strange that we dont even see support (right now) for big companies like facebook or twitter. or even some other google apps dont have that support yet.
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I'm guessing Google hasn't given them the AOSP before the public? Or maybe there wasn't any incentive for them to develop an app for something they didn't think would have the market share.
I remember when I first got my HTC Dream a couple of years ago, that there wasn't even a Facebook app out yet for it (it was still on stock Donut ROM from Rogers).
Sejanus said:
I'm guessing Google hasn't given them the AOSP before the public? Or maybe there wasn't any incentive for them to develop an app for something they didn't think would have the market share.
I remember when I first got my HTC Dream a couple of years ago, that there wasn't even a Facebook app out yet for it (it was still on stock Donut ROM from Rogers).
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10.1 inches of web browser not reason enough not to call this a "mobile"?
I sure wouldn't write an app for something already fully functional.
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alias_neo said:
10.1 inches of web browser not reason enough not to call this a "mobile"?
I sure wouldn't write an app for something already fully functional.
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True, a lot of these sites work just fine with the browser (Stock, Dolphin). One thing that is a little bit off topic is the ability to hide the status bar (or go fullscreen with the browser) so we can really get the 10.1 inches rather then the 8 or so that we get with everything on the screen.
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It worked! Thanks
Last week Vaizard420 got my attention by booting my Honeycomb on the D1. I promised to get a real port going for you guys, and here it is.
http://t3hh4xx0r.com/projects-2/dev-ports/honeycomb/d1
Working
Data (i think)
Touchscreen
Text Messages
Notification and softkey lights
Not Working
Wifi
Gps
Calls (Honeycomb doesn't come with a phone app)
Hardware acceleration
Simple auto rotation
Camera
Downloads
OMHC_sholes.zip
Donate to help me get a D1, I can get one for $50.
Crazy wild stuff.
haha omg cant believe you making this one as well
Pretty pumped your creating this, knowing how well ur doing on the other port for TB
The sense 3.0 stuff? Haven't touched it recently.
I have my hands in everything xD
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is that zip file the one in the video?
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is that zip file the one in the video?
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yes it is.
not sure, just use the top link to get the one in the video
Ya. I haven't watched the video but thats the one the tester sent me.
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Can't wait for wifi and gps to be finished!!!! Simply amazing work guys!
So what all would be required to get calls working on this? Is it just a matter of getting a phone app on there or is it a more complex problem? Id love to see this get to be a full fledged, stable rom.
It won't ever have working phone stuff.
This is honeycomb, not meant for phones
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You could have a duel boot setup to have both in one device, easier than switching backups. I'm gonna give this a run, any kernels work best for this?
Loaded this up, slow I expected. No on board keyboard that I got to work. The physical keyboard did not have functional numbers that I got to work. I could not get the power button to work either.Nice work though, looks good.
So, sent from my mobile. What's new?
sorry to bother, but i've a question.. i've got a samsung i9003 that has chipset mostly identical to droid, the rest of the hardware is different, i know, phone,gps,wifi,etc. it is possible to recompile kernel from milestone to samsung, knowing the differences,and adding the kernel modules to make it work? gingerbread for this phone is arriving next month,but no rom have been spotted, but i hopo... sorry to invade your section, but i wanted to ask to some developers and i hope a good reply... sorry for my english.
True, the original software isnt meant for phones BUT, he just managed to boot it on a phone, opening up the possibilty phone use. I want to know whats required to get it working.
I loaded up the rom and it works but there are missing elements, without them it is pretty much useless. I had no wifi or data so I could not load anything on it. Neat to play with though, needs a 1000 MHz kernel just to tinker with.
kind make me happy i made the choice of buying this phone in july last summer.
How about root access? Flashed another overclock kernel pushed setcpu but no root access
Very impressive although for phone use doesn't do much there. Plus I can't use the power switch to shut device on and off
did this project die? hopefully not just seems no development has happened in a while
Really, its not going to get any better than this. Only reason I ported it to my phone was because I wanted to see what it would look like. Then people started requesting ports. This was never and will never be anything close to a DD. Its just something fun to flash and play with for a minute, then go back to your ctual rom.
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Every one would love so see that . Who will be the illest developer . To do that
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Nobody can do ANYTHING until google releases the source code, which won't be for at least another couple of weeks.
dhkr234 said:
Nobody can do ANYTHING until google releases the source code, which won't be for at least another couple of weeks.
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Yes and no - I agree that porting the OS will be stuck with no dev until Google shows us some love, but someone dumped the ICS apps in android general here at XDA.
We can at least start on the long, slow process of converting the odexed apps into de-odexed version reverse compatible with gingerbread...some very small progress has already been made in this department.
Way off my radar at the moment with all else going on, but there's a start there for anyone who feels like eating some ice cream
Edit for links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18547788
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1309647
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1310900
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311135
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1268003
First thing's first in Doubleshot development: We need working AOSP.
I agree with the need for a working vanilla gingerbread ROM...gotta get back to basics and go up from there.
Something that turned developers off to the idea before was the fact that you will lose the HTC camera app in the process, and it was generally agreed upon that this was undesirable.
Now that we've had some ROMs come out, we have dev rolling in various directions with different flavors of the android experience working on the device, maybe someone or a couple someones will get together and make some progress in his direction.
AOSP android for gingerbread really is the first step to getting ICS ported.
My time is being focused in other directions - I'm willing to lend a hand or do testing for anyone interested in working on this, but the project itself is outside my interests at the moment.
More and more people are becoming interested in this... Sooner or later someone will take a stab at it and get enough going to legitimately make a post about it in the dev section. I know I'll jump on and help support such a project, and i'm not alone - there are others floating around who will be able to give quality feedback and reports on testing that are waiting in the wings for someone to start this project, and once complete ICS isn't far behind.
I was thinking about getting the galaxy nexus when it came out, but honestly, if ICS camera app is halfway decent, I'm probably going to stick with this phone. ICS looks amazing btw!
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dung8604 said:
I was thinking about getting the galaxy nexus when it came out, but honestly, if ICS camera app is halfway decent, I'm probably going to stick with this phone. ICS looks amazing btw!
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Someone will find a way to port the camera's features to an app we can use. Also, the Galaxy Nexus? We have 64GB SD cards coming out soon and that phone has no SD slot!
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blackknightavalon said:
Someone will find a way to port the camera's features to an app we can use. Also, the Galaxy Nexus? We have 64GB SD cards coming out soon and that phone has no SD slot!
Sent from a message in a bottle.
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Shame the doubleshot only supports up to 32 gig...is this a software limitation?
Blue6IX said:
Shame the doubleshot only supports up to 32 gig...is this a software limitation?
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Just like the G1 only supported up to 16GB in spite of 32GB cards working on it?
G3CUA19 said:
Every one would love so see that . Who will be the illest developer . To do that
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there source code release for htcdev.com for 4g slide what about that
AndroidKing said:
there source code release for htcdev.com for 4g slide what about that
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That's the kernel source for the device itself. This is the last piece of the puzzle we needed from HTC - so we're done with them now.
Until Google releases the source code for ICS, it's unknown what will have to be done (if anything...) to reverse engineer it to work on our device.
Assume lots of work and banging your head against the wall to make it happen, but who knows - it might be little to no work at all. We just won't know until Google releases their source code. I haven't been paying attention, so don't know if any release date's been announced.
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Just like the G1 only supported up to 16GB in spite of 32GB cards working on it?
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Didn't know about this - MT4GS is my first smart phone, so I don't have much history about prior developments, i'm learning it as I go.
This is very happy news, however, and if this is a precedent then a 64 gig card will just read in the phone. Until someone tries we won't know, unless someone can definitively say "yes, it's a hardware limitation" or "no, it's a coded limitation".
If it's just a coded limitation, then we can do something about it. If it's a hardware limitation, we're kinda stuck. If someone knows for sure, please speak up.
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That's the kernel source for the device itself. This is the last piece of the puzzle we needed from HTC - so we're done with them now.
Until Google releases the source code for ICS, it's unknown what will have to be done (if anything...) to reverse engineer it to work on our device.
Assume lots of work and banging your head against the wall to make it happen, but who knows - it might be little to no work at all. We just won't know until Google releases their source code. I haven't been paying attention, so don't know if any release date's been announced.
Didn't know about this - MT4GS is my first smart phone, so I don't have much history about prior developments, i'm learning it as I go.
This is very happy news, however, and if this is a precedent then a 64 gig card will just read in the phone. Until someone tries we won't know, unless someone can definitively say "yes, it's a hardware limitation" or "no, it's a coded limitation".
If it's just a coded limitation, then we can do something about it. If it's a hardware limitation, we're kinda stuck. If someone knows for sure, please speak up.
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I've gotta think software. Sd card reading technology hasn't changed that much has it?
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I just hope someone comes up with an A2EXT script for this device.
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Shame the doubleshot only supports up to 32 gig...is this a software limitation?
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Could be. I know some sd as well as hd drive version are limited ie fat32 ntsf etc.
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Actually 64 and above are SDXC not SDHC they use the newer 3.0 spec iirc
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I9000 devices got a new update named "value pack?", do you know if we'll get this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1431523.
thx
looks like fw to me, so no.
antaine said:
I9000 devices got a new update named "value pack?", do you know if we'll get this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1431523.
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Its the lite version of ice cream sandwich.
and about whether 9003 will get it or not, only time will tell.
On www.gsmarena.com just 1 day ago samsung has officially decleared that no value pack update will be given to galaxy s. So forget about ICS
It's sad we aren't getting ICS, but the phone runs much nicer than it did under Froyo, so it's not like they're leaving us with a half-baked product.
It's not ICS, it's a GB update but with some adds.
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I tried ics on my friends nexus s,trust me you wont like it,miui on froyo probably was better,and Samsung if they release ics on the i9003,it will be rubbish as we will still be stuck with touchwiz.so there is no point getting upset about not getting ics.
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yamchirobe said:
I tried ics on my friends nexus s,trust me you wont like it,miui on froyo probably was better,and Samsung if they release ics on the i9003,it will be rubbish as we will still be stuck with touchwiz.so there is no point getting upset about not getting ics.
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ya...! People u dont fascinate about ICS. Its like expecting ur gf to be act or look like sexy angelina jolie
I must admit that ICS is really superb but problem is samsung nexus has that kind of powerful hardware 1.2 ghz with dual core processor, 1gb ram. We even dont have half of it. Already our 2.3.6 firmwares run with little lag then from this u can imagine how device will perform with ICS (Super duper laggy).
Instead of this we must concentrate on cm7 & miui. Really these two roms are superbly awsome. It will really fulfill all our requirements.
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ya...! People u dont fascinate about ICS. Its like expecting ur gf to be act or look like sexy angelina jolie
I must admit that ICS is really superb but problem is samsung nexus has that kind of powerful hardware 1.2 ghz with dual core processor, 1gb ram. We even dont have half of it. Already our 2.3.6 firmwares run with little lag then from this u can imagine how device will perform with ICS (Super duper laggy).
Instead of this we must concentrate on cm7 & miui. Really these two roms are superbly awsome. It will really fulfill all our requirements.
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I agree....but firstly its not about the MHZ,GHZ,THZor what,, even port for 600+mhz can run ICS(I think we can run SE x1 on ICS..doing it)... The Question is WHY I NEED ICS???whats the diff? whats new? cant it save me on bills? can it make my phone undistructable? can i play PS3 games on it???? a dozen of question marrks more to add...
Ics will give us loads Of new features . We could first concentrate on miui then ics through miui like in other phones. we need ics
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Its not the question of power,when the T-Mobile g1(first android phone) and HTC HD2(a Wm phone from 09) can have smooth ics anything is possible with proper devs. I think the best way to approach ics is best to get it via miui or cyanogen mod
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Yes that is what I am saying. Miui is going to be stable soon and then we should request some devs to port pics through miui
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supercrazy8 said:
Ics will give us loads Of new features . We could first concentrate on miui then ics through miui like in other phones. we need ics
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We dont actually need it..we just want it..
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Once apps started requiring 4.0 compatibility, we will NEED ICS. In the upgrade to Honeycomb we didn't feel it that much since it is specifically for tablets. If apps begin to require Fragments (not present in 2.3 and below) and other 3.x and 4.x stuff we will be stuck. Its not just all visual eyecandy folks.
kemistry01 said:
We dont actually need it..we just want it..
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This man speaks the truth
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jan3586 said:
Once apps started requiring 4.0 compatibility, we will NEED ICS.
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And when will that start happening? Apps are still supporting Froyo. By the time this is a necessity for most apps, you'll have a new phone.
jamsori said:
This man speaks the truth
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And when will that start happening? Apps are still supporting Froyo. By the time this is a necessity for most apps, you'll have a new phone.
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Well for most of us, I think its not as easy as it sounds to have a new phone ICS runs on my ZTE blade pretty smoothly without most animations, maybe its just a matter of time before we get ICS.
jan3586 said:
Well for most of us, I think its not as easy as it sounds to have a new phone
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It'll be years away, and chances are you'll start having problems with the hardware, dropped it, ran out of warranty, new contract etc before lack of ICS becomes a major issue.
Why am i making excuses for Samsung? Beats me.
What we NEED is a completely bug free 2.3.7 GB and Samsung source lib files..
If we manage to get 'em , we'll ROCK...
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What we NEED is a completely bug free 2.3.7 GB and Samsung source lib files..
If we manage to get 'em , we'll ROCK...
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you took words from my mouth Still we have some issues like sync issue, lag issue, vdo calling etc. I will not blame people that they are getting attracted to ICS becoz definitely ICS is very attractive. But even if we dont get ICS it will not make much difference. Instead of that I will prefer small ICS value pack update as per capability of mobile. Phone's actual performance can be identified only then & then when u install lots apps & do some multitasking with 3 to 4 apps open. Because whenever u install fresh rom then it has no background loading apps. So thats why it runs smoothly.
Regarding compatibility of app, if u observe carefully then 90% major apps are compatable to 2.1+ onwards versions of android and in future also same thing will continue by app developers.
Is it possible to get my notification draw onto my lock screen??
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????/
For real? Not trying to be a ****, but just pull down from the top of the screen!??!
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For real? Not trying to be a ****, but just pull down from the top of the screen!??!
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He must be on ICS. It only works on jb I think. But I still loled at your response haha
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He must be on ICS. It only works on jb I think. But I still loled at your response haha
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I could do it on ics... You can't do it when you have a pass code or patter lock you can only do it when there's no security
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Lol. Don't you think I've tried pulling down on the screen, dumbass. Lol.
Is there a way to get it to show up on JB with a security code?
This is why I shouldve just stuck with a jailbreak on a iPhone. Haha. Easier to tweak it.
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If you have a passcode you can't pull it down. And that is for obvious reasons, because if you have passcode on your phone you obviously don't want random people getting into it or seeing stuff, so that's why the notification bar can't be pulled down.
As for your iphone comment, if you really wanna use a **** phone, with **** tweaks then go ahead and get it. But the reasoning for it not being pulled down while having a passcode is obvious.
Oh and it works PERFECT on my S3 running AOSP Jellybean incase you were wondering
Jarrid42 said:
Lol. Don't you think I've tried pulling down on the screen, dumbass. Lol.
Is there a way to get it to show up on JB with a security code?
This is why I shouldve just stuck with a jailbreak on a iPhone. Haha. Easier to tweak it.
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Well for future reference if you give more details then this isn't working. You might get an answer that helps. Your op said nothing about security lock codes or even what ROM you are on. So the answer of just pull down was reasonable.
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New to android. didnt think it matter on either rom nor secruity. it didnt on iphone lol.
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Jarrid42 said:
New to android. didnt think it matter on either rom nor secruity. it didnt on iphone lol.
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Its okay, it's just helpful for us when you post more information, it helps us help you better
Jarrid42 said:
New to android. didnt think it matter on either rom nor secruity. it didnt on iphone lol.
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Well then, first welcome. Next though the more details you can give the better. You'll find that the community here wants to help, but can only do that if they understand the problem.
Also, I can promise android is easier to tweak and easier to save if you screw up. It us just a learning curve, but one you get it you'll love it m just remember make sure you read what you are doing, search for answers and if you still don't understand ask.
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kintwofan said:
Well for future reference if you give more details then this isn't working. You might get an answer that helps. Your op said nothing about security lock codes or even what ROM you are on. So the answer of just pull down was reasonable.
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you must have never used a iphone with a jailbreak. easier to mod. 1000s of more tweaks that you can select through a simple app store. Not ones that come with a ROM.
Jarrid42 said:
you must have never used a iphone with a jailbreak. easier to mod. 1000s of more tweaks that you can select through a simple app store. Not ones that come with a ROM.
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You're right. The must I ever did was jail break and unlock to increase resale, but it was a pain. However, that was probably my learning curve. Either way I prefer to tweak by swapping out ROMs radios, etc.
Hey you might want to check out the pimp ROM app. It lets you select a bunch of tweaks from a simple to use app. Kind of like cydia.
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Thanks. Eh. Every tweak seems to be on Google play. Not all work for this phone. And not very many. They ones that come with a ROM are okay. But I got them all on the iPhone too. Even with toogles on a widget.
Let's say if I wanted my lock screen to show up one when I'm not on my home WiFi. I could. Or password anything. Photo albums. Folders. Apps. I mean you can do that on here somewhat. But toggles for it would be nice. I phones are a lot easier to tweak. All tweaks are categorized in a appstore. Cydia is nice. Sorry die hard jailbreak fan.. lol
Hate how the keyboard on here takes the whole screen in landscape mode. Hate that the most. Lol. Its annoying. Also the notifications for apps and such on here are horrible! No badge numbers. Nothing! Lol. Sucks. Android is okay for the average user I guess. But someone who wants to tweak there phone to their liking with themes,boot logos, security, overclocking(think that's what its called in android world) lol, choose iPhone 4s or above.
Just was sitting here bored. Sorry to go off topic. Haha
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Check out miui
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kintwofan said:
Check out miui
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MIUI ROM downloader? Doesn't support galaxy SIII only one and two..
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nvm i see it in ROM manager. ill check it out...
Jarrid42 said:
Thanks. Eh. Every tweak seems to be on Google play. Not all work for this phone. And not very many. They ones that come with a ROM are okay. But I got them all on the iPhone too. Even with toogles on a widget.
Let's say if I wanted my lock screen to show up one when I'm not on my home WiFi. I could. Or password anything. Photo albums. Folders. Apps. I mean you can do that on here somewhat. But toggles for it would be nice. I phones are a lot easier to tweak. All tweaks are categorized in a appstore. Cydia is nice. Sorry die hard jailbreak fan.. lol
Hate how the keyboard on here takes the whole screen in landscape mode. Hate that the most. Lol. Its annoying. Also the notifications for apps and such on here are horrible! No badge numbers. Nothing! Lol. Sucks. Android is okay for the average user I guess. But someone who wants to tweak there phone to their liking with themes,boot logos, security, overclocking(think that's what its called in android world) lol, choose iPhone 4s or above.
Just was sitting here bored. Sorry to go off topic. Haha
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Android phones are for the average user? It's more like iPhones are for the average user. What I'm wondering is why in the world did you get an android phone if you're a die-hard jailbreak fan?
As for being bored, why not flash some roms, kernels, themes, etc.
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MIUI ROM downloader? Doesn't support galaxy SIII only one and two..
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No the official ROM. You'll get more of the iPhone feel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31453543
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Neverendingxsin said:
Android phones are for the average user? It's more like iPhones are for the average user. What I'm wondering is why in the world did you get an android phone if you're a die-hard jailbreak fan?
As for being bored, why not flash some roms, kernels, themes, etc.
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guess you right in that sense, that the iphone is for the average user. but once it is jailbroken. Probably like flashing all this stuff to your phone as you call it. All this is in, Cydia, the modified app store for all of this stuff you mention. You can add and remove tweaks to any iOS without having to "flash" anything. Of course it can get complex.
I have a friend who works for Verizon who convinced me into trying a Android. Plain and simple. iPhone will be my next upgrade. lol.
Maybe im not doing my searching right or my google history needs erased again. But all I want on my phone is apps installed directly to SD card. (read this wasn't possible). Its okay if it's not possible. notification badges. None seem to work on my ROM for some reason. (CM10 latest nightly). Well I take that back, SMS does. Their all enabled to in settings, gMail, phone, SMS.. Also now I have to go to my app drawer to click on a call to answer it. doesnt stay on my screen to accept. More themes. Seeing them on Google play. Their mostly ugly. maybe it's the lack of retina display. But nothing fancy either in the same line. I'll keep searching and asking i guess.
Jarrid42 said:
guess you right in that sense, that the iphone is for the average user. but once it is jailbroken. Probably like flashing all this stuff to your phone as you call it. All this is in, Cydia, the modified app store for all of this stuff you mention. You can add and remove tweaks to any iOS without having to "flash" anything. Of course it can get complex.
I have a friend who works for Verizon who convinced me into trying a Android. Plain and simple. iPhone will be my next upgrade. lol.
Maybe im not doing my searching right or my google history needs erased again. But all I want on my phone is apps installed directly to SD card. (read this wasn't possible). Its okay if it's not possible. notification badges. None seem to work on my ROM for some reason. (CM10 latest nightly). Well I take that back, SMS does. Their all enabled to in settings, gMail, phone, SMS.. Also now I have to go to my app drawer to click on a call to answer it. doesnt stay on my screen to accept. More themes. Seeing them on Google play. Their mostly ugly. maybe it's the lack of retina display. But nothing fancy either in the same line. I'll keep searching and asking i guess.
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I'd recommend trying out different AOSP roms, such as Liquid Smooth, Paranoid Android, King Kong, AOKP, and get a sense of each one. You can also download Nova or Apex launcher and they'll both give you more options for notification badges. Stock AOSP android is pretty plain but that's the point of it though, The customization is up to you
I'll look into them. Im running CM10 ROM now. It's not bad. It'd probably be much greater if I could get my apps to store on external SDCard instead of internal. I'll keep looking them ROMs or whatever you mentioned to see if they have anything i'm looking for..