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Should I upgrade my ROM?

I have been thinking about doing a rom upgrade, mainly to free up space currently taken by the AT&T bloatware. However something has recently come to my attention.
People complain about video playback with the Tilt/Kaiser all the time but I have no such issues. I watch video on it all the time with no lag, freezes, poor quality, etc. I watch WMV's and AVI's and I use Windows Media Player as well as TCPMP, both programs work perfectly even with large file sizes. I also stream video from my home PC using ORB with no playback issues, same with youtube mobile.
I am worried if I upgrade my ROM I might be opening myself up to video issues other users seem to have. If I somehow got lucky and have a tilt without video playback issues, I dont want to mess it up. Would I be running that risk by upgrading to a new ROM (I was thinking about Duty's latest release).

No, you wouldn't be opening yourself up to any driver issues by upgrading. You already have the driver issue, you just don't know it. True the kaiser, in some instances can play videos just fine, but there is a huge potential for the device to be a whole lot faster than it currently is while playing videos, 3d rendering, and just overall user interface responsiveness. I'd recommend you jump in and try out a new rom. You will be glad you did. Make sure and do some reading until you are confident that you are doing it right. (install hardspl) After we get these drivers everyone is waiting on, our phones will be the fastest, baddest mofos on the market. I'm perfectly happy with my kaiser being driverless, but just imagine the possibilities when we get our hands on them drivers. Cheers! happy flashing!

I got my tilt the first day it came out and did not flash it until almost the beginning of this year. I'm so happy i did. If i was you i would take the risk. Duttys roms are awesome. and if you have any problems the new CorePlayer works great and you will notice an improvement on the video even though you dont think you have any problems already.

HTC Inspire 4G Bluetooth Audio Skip

Okay so this is a weird issue. When using the stock ROM for my Inpsire 4G (or any variation of sense ROMs) I get this occasional audio skip on my car's bluetooth audio. The phone is connected to both the phone and the media features of my Pioneer AVIC-X930BT the audio sounds absolutely fine then all of a sudden theres a drop in the audio for about half a second and the music has to catch up. Its not really a skip more of a lag. This issue does NOT exist with completely different ROMs such as CM7. In CM7 I have no issues whatsover. What could be causing this and how can I fix it? I absolutely LOVE Sense ROMs and have tried the latest Android Revolution HD (almost fixes it) and RCMixHD 1.5 and all have the same issue. Its not my SD card because as I said it works fine in CM7 however I do not like the look of CM7 and the "sense like" widgets are not to my liking. Thanks so much and I realllly hope there is a fix for it. Perhaps a custom kernel would do it? Or a different radio? Thanks.
P.S. Yes I know it works for some of you with no issue...but sadly I've been having this problem for a while and it's been bothering me a LOT.

GRIM1337 said:
Okay so this is a weird issue. When using the stock ROM for my Inpsire 4G (or any variation of sense ROMs) I get this occasional audio skip on my car's bluetooth audio. The phone is connected to both the phone and the media features of my Pioneer AVIC-X930BT the audio sounds absolutely fine then all of a sudden theres a drop in the audio for about half a second and the music has to catch up. Its not really a skip more of a lag. This issue does NOT exist with completely different ROMs such as CM7. In CM7 I have no issues whatsover. What could be causing this and how can I fix it? I absolutely LOVE Sense ROMs and have tried the latest Android Revolution HD (almost fixes it) and RCMixHD 1.5 and all have the same issue. Its not my SD card because as I said it works fine in CM7 however I do not like the look of CM7 and the "sense like" widgets are not to my liking. Thanks so much and I realllly hope there is a fix for it. Perhaps a custom kernel would do it? Or a different radio? Thanks.
P.S. Yes I know it works for some of you with no issue...but sadly I've been having this problem for a while and it's been bothering me a LOT.
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The main issue is the BT stack that is used with the roms. CM7 uses a different one if I remember right. So not alot you can do unless you want to rebuild the rom yourself

[Q] Why update to GB?? when froyo was so stable?

6 months of using a rock solid stable rom xxkb3 (stock), I had only 1 issue that I needed Gb update that is few new apps only work on GB such as equalizer a great app for music but that too is buggy on GB, it produces tik tak tuk (static sound) on an ideal phone.
I finally updated to xxkpm based custom rom with all those fancy stuff now I observe that the phone is lagging in camera/ phonebook, messeging etc, battery backup is almost same as froyo many version of GB are having problem with following.
high battery drain
WIFI connection drops
In sleep mode, data connection stops working
push mail notification does not work
gtalk/skype video chat does not work
car bluetooth connection drop (phonebook download issue)
I wonder what was this whole GB noise all about, to me version number are just numbers & they don't necessarily mean better stable rom than Froyo.
So I am wondering whats the gain in updating to GB accept that you get a new FW which is still buggy in many areas.
Namaless specifically mentioned that GB is buggy & ditched the development on gb & based his custom rom on xxkb3.
Those who are with GB & prefer GB various version can you tell me what is better in GB that is making you use GB for your daily use? please list features which you think was not available in froyo on i9003

You can see the different here..
http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-android-2-2-froyo-and-android-2-3-gingerbread/

Ya...you are right. But it depends on ur preferanace. I dont need wifi, gmail sync (i do it manually), vdo chat. I just use themes, 2g net, lots of fun apps, latest mods like 10 lockscreens, 14 toggles, kernal related mods. This is our normal user view.
But if u ask any developer especially kernal developers then they will definitely 1st go for gb because source codes are more simpler & gives developer more modification in kernal & whole rom. The problems which u have mentione can be solved in cm7. Regarding vdo calling I have hopes from doomlord. He has kernal & device driver's knowledge.

1. I had problem with WiFi (not as others have), but it was solved with help of copying WiFi settings from Froyo. Now it works well for me
2. Battery drain is the same for me now (Before I was using OsmanFansRom v1.2.1, now CianogenMod7). Look at the image (I used it very small today). As you can see it uses battery with the same speed as on Froyo. Draining depends of usage). When I listen music all time through bluetooth it can work only 12 hours. but it's good for mp3 players, isn't it?
3. Never use this (I don't need email at my phone, I always near PCs), And never checked it
4. I use skype very seldom (and only for chatting). BTW in Froyo Video doesn't work too
5. I'm using stereo bleotooth all day long (listening music, speaking and so on). I never had problem with it. I don't know may be car's bluetooth is different, but I don't think so.
Pluses I received from CM7: It's very customizable, It's very easy to apply themes, it's very good looking for me, and I like to use it even now (when it's beta). I like effects OldTV, showing messages in the top bar, unlock effects, and so on.
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My reason (apart from the stability), is videocalls. I needs videocalls every day, and this I can only get in Froyo. I only can do videocalls using Tango, and only in Froyo. The other aps (Fring, Oovoo and Skype) in Froyo, and all the apps (includind Tango) in ginger doesn't work. The issue is the same, flickering with the front camera, FC doesn't work well.
I would use ginger because it is more customizable and has things like CRT effect, but I need videocalls, and that only I can do it in froyo and with tango ....

froyo's ancient man!
would u buy a samsung galaxy s 3 years from now,or buy a much better phone for the same price even though u now gs1 is rock stable and solid?

I don't understand you, sorry for my english, but I bought this phone, and I want i9003 give me everything i9003 can do (including videocalls)

GB is better!!!!
Ya man u r right froyo was stable....gingerbread is also stable for normal use....
I felt the following changes-
Speed(u have to agree its fast and smooth)..
More customizable...new and better rom's from developers
Its neat...less lag...better quadrant....more games support..etc

sakindia123 said:
froyo's ancient man!
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Sure ancient but at least stable for daily use (XXKB3)
would u buy a samsung galaxy s 3 years from now,or buy a much better phone for the same price even though u now gs1 is rock stable and solid?
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Probably YES since phone to me is a tool to be used for my daily work, life, enjoyment, education etc, The last phone I used was 6 years old moto works like a charm even now, I am not those kinds who are after the latest & greatest & most fashionable phones no matter what the specs may be.
Prime importance for me is, can the phone make me more productive in day to day work/ life, if yes then I will go for it.

ayush95gupta said:
Ya man u r right froyo was stable....gingerbread is also stable for normal use....
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Stable with all those bugs are you serious? Last 6 months I am hearing about GB yet the bugs have not been rooted out.
I felt the following changes-
Speed(u have to agree its fast and smooth)..
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In day to day use I havent found any speed difference may be bcoz I was already using a very good stable rom XXKB3
More customizable...new and better rom's from developers
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Yes sure but thats where the whole lot of mess is happening, just posted a review of a great rom with some great graphics, you may want to read this review.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19371407#post19371407
Its neat...less lag...better quadrant....more games support..etc
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Yes due to many new mods its less laggy, but I experienced the same lag in one of the custom rom I tried, now I have changed to another one & will see if it really is a power horse or lags exactly the same way.

So you are saying, "many GB update released and they all crap". That's against the logic why we need updates? Why softwares need updates? Why updates are needed?
First of all stability isn't everthing for hardwares but for sure it's a very important thing. Updates can provide many abilities to hardwares which previous versions can't do. Updates are for to improve performance, efficiency, stability, ergonomics, friendliness. However this doesn't happen as expected and create new problems. And it continues to the time a better solution is arrived.
As for me. I'm using XXKPN.
I can't even use GPS in froyo - Works perfectly now.
I charged my phone everyday - Charging in 2-3 day period.
Lags, self reboots - No lag, no reboot.
Touch sensivity is not bad - After using KPN I say it's perfect.
It takes hours to load phonebook - Loads very very faster now.

"many GB update released and they all crap"
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No I don't mean that GB is crap, but its still far from being bug free for daily (heavy) usage of various features. Wifi connection dropping is the latest thing which is bugging users. I have faced a bluetooth bug with 2 custom roms they don't work well with car bluetooth & hang at phonebook download but never finishes it thus the music streaming interrupts after 15 sec.
Since I have only used xxkpm whereas xxkpn was released after that may be it sorts out many bugs which I am facing.

The biggest reason for my upgrade is HD playback. This single reason is enough for me.
I think overall Gb is good, I also never have WiFi problem.
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Hd video shot with the camera always played smooth in froyo. Hd encoded with certain codec had problems for which I used mobo player.

sgsI9003 said:
No I don't mean that GB is crap, but its still far from being bug free for daily (heavy) usage of various features. Wifi connection dropping is the latest thing which is bugging users. I have faced a bluetooth bug with 2 custom roms they don't work well with car bluetooth & hang at phonebook download but never finishes it thus the music streaming interrupts after 15 sec.
Since I have only used xxkpm whereas xxkpn was released after that may be it sorts out many bugs which I am facing.
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I updated XXKPN from XXKPE. I heard that many user faced with wifi and 3g issues but I didn't. I don't really know why but small differences on variables can cause various effects on usage. Anyway, it's sensible to use latest software.

sgsI9003 said:
Hd video shot with the camera always played smooth in froyo. Hd encoded with certain codec had problems for which I used mobo player.
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But it will not play smooth or through hardware decoding. Now I just download 720 movie and enjoy directly without thinking for converting.
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Why did i update?
- Froyo crashes every 2-3 days for me. Gingerbread works perfectly.
- Better battery in Gingerbread
- Feels 'smoother' than Froyo
- .flv files actually play

i have the same problem with GB
can someone tell me how copying WiFi settings from the Froyo?
falex007 said:
1. I had problem with WiFi (not as others have), but it was solved with help of copying WiFi settings from Froyo. Now it works well for me
2. Battery drain is the same for me now (Before I was using OsmanFansRom v1.2.1, now CianogenMod7). Look at the image (I used it very small today). As you can see it uses battery with the same speed as on Froyo. Draining depends of usage). When I listen music all time through bluetooth it can work only 12 hours. but it's good for mp3 players, isn't it?
3. Never use this (I don't need email at my phone, I always near PCs), And never checked it
4. I use skype very seldom (and only for chatting). BTW in Froyo Video doesn't work too
5. I'm using stereo bleotooth all day long (listening music, speaking and so on). I never had problem with it. I don't know may be car's bluetooth is different, but I don't think so.
Pluses I received from CM7: It's very customizable, It's very easy to apply themes, it's very good looking for me, and I like to use it even now (when it's beta). I like effects OldTV, showing messages in the top bar, unlock effects, and so on.
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jj20 said:
i have the same problem with GB
can someone tell me how copying WiFi settings from the Froyo?
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Hi.
Are you sure you have the same problem as I had? No one before had this problem on this forum.
in the attach my fix to copy settings files. You have to apply this file in the CWM (before applying be sure you have mounted /system partition).
Edit: here is description of my problem. BTW I don't have this problem with ICS ROMs (CM9 or MIUI4)

falex007 said:
Hi.
Are you sure you have the same problem as I had? No one before had this problem on this forum.
in the attach my fix to copy settings files. You have to apply this file in the CWM (before applying be sure you have mounted /system partition).
Edit: here is description of my problem. BTW I don't have this problem with ICS ROMs (CM9 or MIUI4)
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yes i'm sure
cuz no one else have my problem ! just like u
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I apply it &
it works well
thanks
I must say hello again to the high speed wifi connection through my phone

Having a problem with Youtube Vids.

I'm currently running airfulip's AOSP Style X and previously was running dsexton's ICINB 2.3.7 v2. While running either ROM, I was able browse the web but YouTube videos would not always play. I would only be able to play YouTube videos successfully 2 out of 10 attempts. Now just to be sure, I tried them on my windows Nokia 710 and the same videos had no problem playing each and every time. I did this with the phones side to side. Both phones are on the same network, Wind Mobile. I tried fixing permissions, just because that's something everyone recommends when having weird issues like this, but it did not good. I even tried factory reset and re-installing the ROM and then another factory reset for good measure and it still has problems with playing YouTube. It's really weird it will play on the rare occasion, but for the most part, it's a no go. The screen just sits there, with the loading arrow circling trying to load the video but to no success. BTW, when I am on wifi, I do not have this problem. Any suggestions?

Sounds like a data speed problem. Both those ROMs as far as I know have no video issues. Try running speedtest and see. If it is a data problem try flashing another modem. FB's got CWM flashables in the dev section.

hello,
I'm running airfluips 2.3.7 SOAP style X ROM and you tube is working fine
its known not to play videos. and search criteria wont show everything you see as like on a PC because of the different video formats people use that cell phones cannot handle. Although i have heard if you have adobe flash player installed videos will load better in the browser
Best of luck! =)

Thanks for the suggestions. Tried a few different modems, did no good. Ran a speed test with mobilespeedtest.net on both the nokia 710 and GS4G. The nokia consistently was a bit slower, but it had no problem loading up and playing YouTube vids. I really don't get it. My GS4G will play YouTube but it just plays it on and off. Majority of the time it just sits there trying to load the video. Again, I don't have this problem with wifi. So it seems as if it get's real sticky when running off my 3G service, because wifi has no issues loading and playing YouTube.

Did you by any chance install the the beats audio mod? It happened to me after doing so. Reverted, everything's fine now.
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itzik2sh said:
Did you by any chance install the the beats audio mod? It happened to me after doing so. Reverted, everything's fine now.
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No beats audio mod. The fact that I don't have any issues on wifi and the fact that I don't have any issues on the same network with my nokia 710 loading and playing the same videos has to mean there is an issue with the youtube app hooking up to my 3g data service. I'm gonna give valhalla final a try again. I don't remember every having this issue with valhalla final. So if it happens running valhalla final then I think im done troubleshooting. lol.

So it seems Vlahalla Final has no problems with youtube on my phone. It's very odd. I'm gonna just stick with this until I go full time to windows phone when Apollo is out in the fall.

I simply love Valhalla Final.
On my opinion, best ROM this phone has, combined with Team Acid kernel and Adrenaline Shot it doesn't get any better than this.
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I have the same problem and I'm running dsexton's icbinb rom. I've been told to use gremlin remover.. but when you don't have access to a PC you just can't. I have no other problem with this Rom the YouTube issue is all! I'm gonna flash the new version of the Rom and see if it fixes it. Also, is it OK to flash over the old version with the aroma installer? Or do I have to do a wipe?
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Sorry for the dumb question, but, did you try to reboot ?
I had a problem with YouTube videos 2 days ago and a reboot fixed it.
Apparently some flash or RAM issue.

itzik2sh said:
Sorry for the dumb question, but, did you try to reboot ?
I had a problem with YouTube videos 2 days ago and a reboot fixed it.
Apparently some flash or RAM issue.
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Reboot doesn't help
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Is it on YouTube app only, or also while viewing the vids in the browser?
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Both. Viewing videos I've taken with camera and avi files play fine.
Good day.

Bump... Really wondering the cause of this. If i had a pc i would do a logcat but i dont.
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Maybe you should try the gremlins remover & a new ROM...
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Well i softbricked it doing a restore and i wont have pc access until the weekend so no phone... Using my dads now lol
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I have the similar problem and a new ROM works, thanks so much.

[Q] Terrible sound quality (CM10.1)

I just got my first android phone, the inspire 4G, and after some problems with temproot (which i finally found a fix to) got it perm rooted. Anyway i installed the unofficial CM 10.1 JB rom, and copyed my music to my 8GB msd card using adb push from PC (dont have a card reader yet...) anyway, using apollo, while the low end sounds about normal through my earphones, the louder mid ends and all high ends sound really tinny and harsh...and this is comping from compressed MP3s from itunes on an old iphone. I didnt even expect BETTER sound but i at least expected the same, but its impossible to listen to my music the way it sounds right now.
I found a beats audio installer for root in the play store, but IDK if it works for this rom yet and i dont really have the space to make a backuip of the rom right now. (getting my 16 GB card in a few days).
I was wondering if anyone else had this issue. what can be done to rectify this? its definitely not the music files that sound fine on my PC or my earphones that worked fine with my iPhone (which died spectacularly and i never want another again, especially seeing how open a rooted android is)-and they work fine with my PC too.
So what do you guys think? id post it in the CM thread but you need 10 posts apparently to post in development.
EDIT: just to make sure its clear, this is sound quality through my HEADPHONES, not complaints of the cheap built in speaker.

Non GB sense roms have this issue on the inspire. The best you can do is flash inspiremod 5 but even then it won't sound the best it could. If you are really into listening to music then just stick with sense gingerbread roms. Some may not agree but I can always tell the difference in sound quality.
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Gizmoe said:
Non GB sense roms have this issue on the inspire. The best you can do is flash inspiremod 5 but even then it won't sound the best it could. If you are really into listening to music then just stick with sense gingerbread roms. Some may not agree but I can always tell the difference in sound quality.
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Sounds like what im gonna do. no toys get between me and my music no matter how cool.
Would be nice to hear of some attempts to fix it, but right low looks like im back to gingerbread.

flashed android revolution 7.1, and sound quality is fantastically better. thanks!

I am using the mod and haven't noticed a huge degrade except when listening to really high quality mp3s. I think it is listenable. I have never used quality head phones, are you using regular ones or a nice pair?
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