HDMI mirroring blurry? - T-Mobile LG G2x

my tv only supports 1080i not 1080p so should it look slightly blurry? also fpse and all the emulators looks a lil blurry too just kinda wondering if anyone else has had any problems

Psx games were made for 480i TV's so when you scale it up to a 1080i screen it will look blurry... try 720p for improved quality?

thanks i will try that!
JHaste said:
Psx games were made for 480i TV's so when you scale it up to a 1080i screen it will look blurry... try 720p for improved quality?
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Amazing quality video

Hey Guys what's up,
So I just transfered my transformers 1&2 (from the HD2) to my evo, looks awesome, but I was wondering were can I find a converter (dvd to mp4) that has the same great video quality TF 1&2
Thanks
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There's tons of video converters out there, and the quality of the video will all depend on the settings you use to re-encode it.
A popular one is Handbrake, but there's tons of others out there.
The resolution on the Evo is 800x480, so it's just slightly wider than DVD's resolution of 720x480. If you're gonna be converting from DVD you might even wanna just leave it at 720x480 because enlarging video always lowers quality. Best bet would be to convert from either a 720p or 1080p source so that you end up shrinking the video size instead. If you convert from an HD source you could even look at having the video in 720p to take advantage of the HDMI output on the Evo (for TV viewing.)

HDMI Out faster fps/higher res?

When using the MHL cable to output the phone's screen to the TV, The video is not nearly as crisp as it is when I play it back later on the computer. I assume this is because the device is showing the compressed video form on the device which is what is being output?
Is there any way to output a better quality version to the TV? (App, etc) Has anyone else felt the same way?
Dsbtwins said:
When using the MHL cable to output the phone's screen to the TV, The video is not nearly as crisp as it is when I play it back later on the computer. I assume this is because the device is showing the compressed video form on the device which is what is being output?
Is there any way to output a better quality version to the TV? (App, etc) Has anyone else felt the same way?
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I just picked up the MHL dongle last week. Works great! Love it!
I think VIDEOS I've shot on the Sensation look like 1080p/720p on my Plasma HDTV... to my eye at least. I assume that's what you're talking about....videos you've recorded or HD You Tube vids etc?
Are you for sure recording in HD? 1080p/720p?? I think by default, the Sensation is set to qHD res in the camcorder settings.
You may already know this, but for those who don't.....
The UI on the phone isn't going to be true HD on your HDTV, as the Sensations display is only qHD 960x540. 720p is 1280X720 and 1080p is of course 1920x1080....officially. There is NO compromise on the official HD resolution standard. It either is or isn't HD....qHD is a marketing term...it looks like true HD on mobile devices, but it's not truly HD.
As far as I can tell though.... it does indeed output true HD resolutions from media etc....but not the UI itself. Videos I've recorded look stunning on my plasma....the UI of course looks grainy.
Hope that helps somebody. If I misstated anything...please correct me
That's correct you have to manually change camcorder to 1080P mode.
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Hoggles said:
I just picked up the MHL dongle last week. Works great! Love it!
I think VIDEOS I've shot on the Sensation look like 1080p/720p on my Plasma HDTV... to my eye at least. I assume that's what you're talking about....videos you've recorded or HD You Tube vids etc?
Are you for sure recording in HD? 1080p/720p?? I think by default, the Sensation is set to qHD res in the camcorder settings.
You may already know this, but for those who don't.....
The UI on the phone isn't going to be true HD on your HDTV, as the Sensations display is only qHD 960x540. 720p is 1280X720 and 1080p is of course 1920x1080....officially. There is NO compromise on the official HD resolution standard. It either is or isn't HD....qHD is a marketing term...it looks like true HD on mobile devices, but it's not truly HD.
As far as I can tell though.... it does indeed output true HD resolutions from media etc....but not the UI itself. Videos I've recorded look stunning on my plasma....the UI of course looks grainy.
Hope that helps somebody. If I misstated anything...please correct me
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Thanks! Yeah I am up to date on my resolution knowledge , and Yeah I guess it outputting it in HD, it just is a little jittery, and for fast moving objects (I was recording ping pong XD ) it looked much smoother when I pulled the file off and played it on the computer.
Where are you guys getting your MHL cables? Are they the official HTC ones?
Hoggles said:
I just picked up the MHL dongle last week. Works great! Love it!
I think VIDEOS I've shot on the Sensation look like 1080p/720p on my Plasma HDTV... to my eye at least. I assume that's what you're talking about....videos you've recorded or HD You Tube vids etc?
Are you for sure recording in HD? 1080p/720p?? I think by default, the Sensation is set to qHD res in the camcorder settings.
You may already know this, but for those who don't.....
The UI on the phone isn't going to be true HD on your HDTV, as the Sensations display is only qHD 960x540. 720p is 1280X720 and 1080p is of course 1920x1080....officially. There is NO compromise on the official HD resolution standard. It either is or isn't HD....qHD is a marketing term...it looks like true HD on mobile devices, but it's not truly HD.
As far as I can tell though.... it does indeed output true HD resolutions from media etc....but not the UI itself. Videos I've recorded look stunning on my plasma....the UI of course looks grainy.
Hope that helps somebody. If I misstated anything...please correct me
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qHD isn't actually marketed as HD... it's qHD because it's (q)uarter HD, as in 1/4 of the HD resolution. 1920 / 2 = 960, and 1080 / 2 = 540. Divide length and width each by 2, and the overall number of pixels gets divided by 4.
It's not just a marketing term.
gilbar said:
qHD isn't actually marketed as HD... it's qHD because it's (q)uarter HD, as in 1/4 of the HD resolution. 1920 / 2 = 960, and 1080 / 2 = 540. Divide length and width each by 2, and the overall number of pixels gets divided by 4.
It's not just a marketing term.
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Correct...it is actually quarter HD, of course....hence the "q". What I meant by marketing term is that a vast majority of people out there see the "HD" and may think it's actually HD...when of course it's not.
glhturbo said:
Where are you guys getting your MHL cables? Are they the official HTC ones?
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from the tmobileUS website under accessories

[Q] Increase PC Stream Framerate?

Hey guys, I've been enjoying using the Shield for both Android and PC games, but being a spoiled PC gamer has left me with a desire for 60fps when streaming PC games. With my Shield connected to my wireless N router over the 5GHz band at 300mbps and excellent signal strength, would that not be enough bandwidth to stream 720p 60fps video? Is there a way to increase the framerate manually?
According to a lot of reviews I've been reading, you aren't going to get 60 FPS. I've heard 30-45 range is what is expected, depending on your connection. Since you have a great connection don't expect anything higher than 45....
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jadengore said:
According to a lot of reviews I've been reading, you aren't going to get 60 FPS. I've heard 30-45 range is what is expected, depending on your connection. Since you have a great connection don't expect anything higher than 45....
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I think this depends on your graphics card. I tested Tomb Raider with a Titan card and i got 100FPS without vsync... :silly:
sontin said:
I think this depends on your graphics card. I tested Tomb Raider with a Titan card and i got 100FPS without vsync... :silly:
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We're talking about framerate on the Shield when streaming pc games to it. You might be getting that framerate on your PC, but not on the Shield
I'm pretty sure this streams in a constant 24fps h.264 video at all times. Correct me if I'm mistaken.
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You can try setting the game to 720p using the in game settings.
rumsey said:
I'm pretty sure this streams in a constant 24fps h.264 video at all times. Correct me if I'm mistaken.
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that sounds right. If you had 2 different framerates i imagine you would get flashing or stuttering,
like when you adjust the frame rate on monitors it gets weird if its not set the same as GPU
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chevyowner said:
You can try setting the game to 720p using the in game settings.
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But they are at 2 different framerates. If you've got a decent computer, start streaming a game at Shield while looking at the game running on your computer. They are both definitely not at the same framerate
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But they are at 2 different framerates. If you've got a decent computer, start streaming a game at Shield while looking at the game running on your computer. They are both definitely not at the same framerate
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I do have a decent computer
ASUS P9X79 LE
Intel i7-3820
64GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 x2
Don't see the need to list more then that.
As far as streaming goes you can't use the same methods for framerate that you would use on your desktop. I tried setting the resolution to 1280x720 in the game setting, had it at 1920x1080 and I noticed the framerate on the shield go up at 1280x720.
agrabren said:
Yes, for "NVIDIA Supported" games, the resolution change is automatic. But for other games, you'll get a lot better results if you change the resolution to 720p, since that's the native panel resolution (higher res means higher bandwidth)
I've said in another thread, thinking of an idea to get controller support to work better. Stay tuned.
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chevyowner said:
I do have a decent computer
ASUS P9X79 LE
Intel i7-3820
64GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 x2
Don't see the need to list more then that.
As far as streaming goes you can't use the same methods for framerate that you would use on your desktop. I tried setting the resolution to 1280x720 in the game setting, had it at 1920x1080 and I noticed the framerate on the shield go up at 1280x720.
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I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. You measure framerate the same way on any LCD. I'm aware that it is best to stream games at 720p, but I was asking if the stream could be sent to the Shield at 60 frames per second, instead of the ~30 frames per second that it currently does.
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I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. You measure framerate the same way on any LCD.
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Yes that true if the LCD is connected to the computer rendering the video you see.
You can improve FPS and streamed FPS by simply changing the game settings to display at 1280x720.
Here is a simple way to find out try it for your self.
chevyowner said:
Yes that true if the LCD is connected to the computer rendering the video you see.
You can improve FPS and streamed FPS by simply changing the game settings to display at 1280x720.
Here is a simple way to find out try it for your self.
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I already know changing the resolution to 720p will increase the framerate, but it does not increase the framerate that Shield is streaming at above ~30fps. Every game, no matter what framerate I get on the computer that is actually playing the game (for example, Bioshock Infinite. My pc will play that game at over 120fps on medium settings at 720p resolution), the Shield is still streaming at 30fps. What I'm asking is not if I can get better performance from my PC, I'm asking if the streaming video from my pc to Shield can be increased from 30fps to 60fps.
hurrpancakes said:
I already know changing the resolution to 720p will increase the framerate, but it does not increase the framerate that Shield is streaming at above ~30fps. Every game, no matter what framerate I get on the computer that is actually playing the game (for example, Bioshock Infinite. My pc will play that game at over 120fps on medium settings at 720p resolution), the Shield is still streaming at 30fps. What I'm asking is not if I can get better performance from my PC, I'm asking if the streaming video from my pc to Shield can be increased from 30fps to 60fps.
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How do you know what the shield is playing for fps? do you have some fps counter that runs on your shield?
maybe you should look up
Video Scaling
Bandwitdh for HD Streaming
chevyowner said:
How do you know what the shield is playing for fps? do you have some fps counter that runs on your shield?
maybe you should look up
Video Scaling
Bandwitdh for HD Streaming
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I can tell that the Shield is at around 30fps just by looking at it, the same way I can tell the difference between 24fps for movies, and 30, 60, 120fps for video games.
Video scaling has nothing to do with this, since the source is in 720p in the first place, and I guarantee that 720p at 60fps does not use more than 50mb/s
hurrpancakes said:
I can tell that the Shield is at around 30fps just by looking at it, the same way I can tell the difference between 24fps for movies, and 30, 60, 120fps for video games.
Video scaling has nothing to do with this, since the source is in 720p in the first place, and I guarantee that 720p at 60fps does not use more than 50mb/s
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Just to correct you... 1280 * 720 * 60 * 4 = 211MB/s (uncompressed) So the real question becomes what is the compression level.
(Add the breakdown 720p = 1280 x 720 resolution, 4 bytes per pixel (32-bit color), 60fps)
agrabren said:
Just to correct you... 1280 * 720 * 60 * 4 = 211MB/s (uncompressed) So the real question becomes what is the compression level.
(Add the breakdown 720p = 1280 x 720 resolution, 4 bytes per pixel (32-bit color), 60fps)
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Consider me corrected. What are your thoughts on the framerate?
hurrpancakes said:
Consider me corrected. What are your thoughts on the framerate?
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Honestly, got no idea. I don't know if they're throttled on the PC or not. I actually imagine they would be to reduce the traffic... I can't think of a way to detect that you're getting behind on packets until it's too late and you've got game lag. It's better to error on the side of low latency... But that's just my own thoughts on trying to implement a feature like this.
Streaming Dolphin emulator I noticed that i cant run at max resolution (2560x2112) it gets laggy.(too much to stream? or low bandwith router?) when i go to 1280x1056 it streams just fine.
Same with Borderlands 2. max everything is laggy. so it must be limited to how much data it has to convert to be able to stream 720
im using 2 660ti
blinkdragonid said:
Streaming Dolphin emulator I noticed that i cant run at max resolution (2560x2112) it gets laggy.(too much to stream? or low bandwith router?) when i go to 1280x1056 it streams just fine.
Same with Borderlands 2. max everything is laggy. so it must be limited to how much data it has to convert to be able to stream 720
im using 2 660ti
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Assuming only 30fps, a resolution of 2560x2112 would require 618MB/s of transfer rate. I believe the stream is actually done at "native" resolution, so if you're PC is playing at 2560x2112, the data stream is 2560x2112 too. You'd need a wired gigabit to even come *close* to maintaining that type of stream.

Random question on screen resolutions.

I'm just curious and I think I know the answer but I'm watching a "720p" movie on a qHD phone connected to my 1080p TV, which according to it only supports MHL out in 720p. Am I watching the movie in qHD b/c it's on my phone or 720p because it's on the TV as well?
Sorry if that was confusing.
Dr Swag Daddy said:
I'm just curious and I think I know the answer but I'm watching a "720p" movie on a qHD phone connected to my 1080p TV, which according to it only supports MHL out in 720p. Am I watching the movie in qHD b/c it's on my phone or 720p because it's on the TV as well?
Sorry if that was confusing.
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You are watching at 720p as your phone won't upscale the image

Do you prefer 4K 30FPS or 1080p 60FPS video?

I'm personally leaning towards the 1080p 60FPS video from my brief tests. It's SO smooth. I wish we had a 4K 60FPS option...
What does everyone else prefer?
I would record at 4K 30fps over 1080 60fps because 1080 60fps is blurry compared to all other modes. I personally prefer 1080 @30fps because i dont have any 4K compatible tvs or computers.
k.s.deviate said:
I would record at 4K 30fps over 1080 60fps because 1080 60fps is blurry compared to all other modes. I personally prefer 1080 @30fps because i dont have any 4K compatible tvs or computers.
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I dont either but its considerably sharper on my screens and allows for zooming
k.s.deviate said:
I would record at 4K 30fps over 1080 60fps because 1080 60fps is blurry compared to all other modes. I personally prefer 1080 @30fps because i dont have any 4K compatible tvs or computers.
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I've never noticed blur. Did you notice on the phone or when viewed on a larger screen?
PunishedSnake said:
I dont either but its considerably sharper on my screens and allows for zooming
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I didn't know that.. I'll have to test the zoom.
PsiPhiDan said:
I've never noticed blur. Did you notice on the phone or when viewed on a larger screen?
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On the phone for sure, I haven't looked on a larger screen lately as I sent my phone to google on an RMA. I get the new device in a day or so so I'll have to look then.
k.s.deviate said:
I didn't know that.. I'll have to test the zoom.
On the phone for sure, I haven't looked on a larger screen lately as I sent my phone to google on an RMA. I get the new device in a day or so so I'll have to look then.
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I do lol thats why I use 4k cuz i can zoom without messing up the video quality
Either way, 60fps makes me want to barf and looks too fake. Like when people use the 120fps filter on their TV's. I think with free storage, may as well use 4k @ 30. Although, I feel the image stabilization is stronger @ 1080

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