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When using the MHL cable to output the phone's screen to the TV, The video is not nearly as crisp as it is when I play it back later on the computer. I assume this is because the device is showing the compressed video form on the device which is what is being output?
Is there any way to output a better quality version to the TV? (App, etc) Has anyone else felt the same way?
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When using the MHL cable to output the phone's screen to the TV, The video is not nearly as crisp as it is when I play it back later on the computer. I assume this is because the device is showing the compressed video form on the device which is what is being output?
Is there any way to output a better quality version to the TV? (App, etc) Has anyone else felt the same way?
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I just picked up the MHL dongle last week. Works great! Love it!
I think VIDEOS I've shot on the Sensation look like 1080p/720p on my Plasma HDTV... to my eye at least. I assume that's what you're talking about....videos you've recorded or HD You Tube vids etc?
Are you for sure recording in HD? 1080p/720p?? I think by default, the Sensation is set to qHD res in the camcorder settings.
You may already know this, but for those who don't.....
The UI on the phone isn't going to be true HD on your HDTV, as the Sensations display is only qHD 960x540. 720p is 1280X720 and 1080p is of course 1920x1080....officially. There is NO compromise on the official HD resolution standard. It either is or isn't HD....qHD is a marketing term...it looks like true HD on mobile devices, but it's not truly HD.
As far as I can tell though.... it does indeed output true HD resolutions from media etc....but not the UI itself. Videos I've recorded look stunning on my plasma....the UI of course looks grainy.
Hope that helps somebody. If I misstated anything...please correct me
That's correct you have to manually change camcorder to 1080P mode.
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Hoggles said:
I just picked up the MHL dongle last week. Works great! Love it!
I think VIDEOS I've shot on the Sensation look like 1080p/720p on my Plasma HDTV... to my eye at least. I assume that's what you're talking about....videos you've recorded or HD You Tube vids etc?
Are you for sure recording in HD? 1080p/720p?? I think by default, the Sensation is set to qHD res in the camcorder settings.
You may already know this, but for those who don't.....
The UI on the phone isn't going to be true HD on your HDTV, as the Sensations display is only qHD 960x540. 720p is 1280X720 and 1080p is of course 1920x1080....officially. There is NO compromise on the official HD resolution standard. It either is or isn't HD....qHD is a marketing term...it looks like true HD on mobile devices, but it's not truly HD.
As far as I can tell though.... it does indeed output true HD resolutions from media etc....but not the UI itself. Videos I've recorded look stunning on my plasma....the UI of course looks grainy.
Hope that helps somebody. If I misstated anything...please correct me
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Thanks! Yeah I am up to date on my resolution knowledge , and Yeah I guess it outputting it in HD, it just is a little jittery, and for fast moving objects (I was recording ping pong XD ) it looked much smoother when I pulled the file off and played it on the computer.
Where are you guys getting your MHL cables? Are they the official HTC ones?
Hoggles said:
I just picked up the MHL dongle last week. Works great! Love it!
I think VIDEOS I've shot on the Sensation look like 1080p/720p on my Plasma HDTV... to my eye at least. I assume that's what you're talking about....videos you've recorded or HD You Tube vids etc?
Are you for sure recording in HD? 1080p/720p?? I think by default, the Sensation is set to qHD res in the camcorder settings.
You may already know this, but for those who don't.....
The UI on the phone isn't going to be true HD on your HDTV, as the Sensations display is only qHD 960x540. 720p is 1280X720 and 1080p is of course 1920x1080....officially. There is NO compromise on the official HD resolution standard. It either is or isn't HD....qHD is a marketing term...it looks like true HD on mobile devices, but it's not truly HD.
As far as I can tell though.... it does indeed output true HD resolutions from media etc....but not the UI itself. Videos I've recorded look stunning on my plasma....the UI of course looks grainy.
Hope that helps somebody. If I misstated anything...please correct me
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qHD isn't actually marketed as HD... it's qHD because it's (q)uarter HD, as in 1/4 of the HD resolution. 1920 / 2 = 960, and 1080 / 2 = 540. Divide length and width each by 2, and the overall number of pixels gets divided by 4.
It's not just a marketing term.
gilbar said:
qHD isn't actually marketed as HD... it's qHD because it's (q)uarter HD, as in 1/4 of the HD resolution. 1920 / 2 = 960, and 1080 / 2 = 540. Divide length and width each by 2, and the overall number of pixels gets divided by 4.
It's not just a marketing term.
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Correct...it is actually quarter HD, of course....hence the "q". What I meant by marketing term is that a vast majority of people out there see the "HD" and may think it's actually HD...when of course it's not.
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Where are you guys getting your MHL cables? Are they the official HTC ones?
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from the tmobileUS website under accessories
Suppose i turn on the HD feature to watch videos on YouTube. Does my phone use more bandwidth streaming if it has a higher resolution screen? Or is the same video being downloaded and made to fit my lower resolution screen resulting in identical data consumption?
Another example would be YouTube.com offers resolutions of 380p/480p/720p/1080p. Does the EVO(800x480) stream at 480p on HD whereas the EVO 3D(960x540) streams at 720p and crops the picture? Or do both Stream at 720p and crop the picture?
If it is the former it seems the WVGA (800x480) on the GSII might be a better idea than the 720p display on the Nexus Prime. You can hardly stream HD videos over 3g/4g as it is and a lot of people don't have unlimited data plans.
Maybe someone could post results comparing streaming data consumption of the same video on an EVO vs EVO 3D to get an idea...
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The bigger the resolution of the youtube video the more bandwidth it needs. The same video (let's say 720p) needs the same amout of data on 2 different phones. Higher resolutions also have higher quality audio and cropping is a local procedure, after the date has been transferred. So the amount of data watching a 720p video on EVO and EVO 3D should be the same.
or does it send 480p which our phone then spreads over qHD?
If the latter, than maybe no advantage to qHD over wvga when videos are concerned...
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or does it send 480p which our phone then spreads over qHD?
If the latter, than maybe no advantage to qHD over wvga when videos are concerned...
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I'm not sure but enabling HQ via youtube, still brings back crappy video quality.
I know youtube compresses data, and that's why its kinda blocky, but on my iPod touch 4th gen, the same video will look amazing!! It looks like on iOS they are using the 1080p or 720p videos if available whereas on my sensation it looks like they use 360p videos. I hate that.
It does on netflix. it optimize the stream base on your connection but I don't think it is 720p or 1080p. Probably need better software support not really the hardware fault.
Its all based on the ones providing the video. netflix/youtube have poor quality. but then again youe tube is based on other peoples cameras so if they have a good camera the video will be better. but just because you have a device that supports 1080p doesnt me everything you play will be in that quality. just means if you have a 1080p hd video your device will play it. the video itself may be a little better but not substantially .
It really sucks. Like Hgaara, the same video will look pretty awesome on my iPod touch 4th generation compared to my Sensation. Oh well.
agreed.
But if you got to youtube website you can specify 360p - 1080p when available.
But it's obvious youtube HD pumps out some "optimal" resolution to android phones.
I was just curious if it pumps out qHD ( 540 x 960 ) feed to our phones or 480p
Same for netflix
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I've answered my own question with a bit of experimentation
here is my test video if you'd like to try to duplicate my efforts
the video is 720p
This is all on the Sensation of course:
First I watched it using the youtube ap
Then I watched it on youtube's webpage using Dolphin HD in desktop mode.
the video quality is amazingly better. Pretty crisp and smooth in fact.
So the lesson is: for better video quality on youtube,
don't use the ap.
don't browse YouTube in mobile mode
DO use desktop mode (Easily done in Dolphin HD)
DO remember to select a higher resolution. Use 1080p if available because the Sensation does a much smoother job of displaying 1080p on qhd rather than 720p because of the perfect 4 pixel to 1 ratio between 1080p and qHD
You might get a warning from youtube that the video is not optimized for mobile, but trust me, our beast of a phone can handle it.
Hey guys, I'm waiting on my tablet to come in from best buy. In the mean time I'm getting ready to start converting movies to be ready to throw on when it gets in and I get a 64gb card for it (hope it works without too much fighting). So I'm hoping some of you guys can help me out with video settings. I want a balance of size/quality. and to keep size as far under 1gb each as possible for a standard 90 minute movie. I'm also a huge Futurama/American Dad/ Family Guy/ Simpsons/Southpark fan so obviously lower quality can be used, so if you have converted this type of animated stuff, what settings seemed to give the smallest size while retaining quality for the TF700? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Hey guys, I'm waiting on my tablet to come in from best buy. In the mean time I'm getting ready to start converting movies to be ready to throw on when it gets in and I get a 64gb card for it (hope it works without too much fighting). So I'm hoping some of you guys can help me out with video settings. I want a balance of size/quality. and to keep size as far under 1gb each as possible for a standard 90 minute movie. I'm also a huge Futurama/American Dad/ Family Guy/ Simpsons/Southpark fan so obviously lower quality can be used, so if you have converted this type of animated stuff, what settings seemed to give the smallest size while retaining quality for the TF700? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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IMHO even for animation thats way to low a bitrate. I would go with handbrake high profile, shoot for 3-5mbps 720p if they are HD originals. If they are 480p originals then maybe you're ok with that bitrate.
Personally i shoot for 4gb movies.
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IMHO even for animation thats way to low a bitrate. I would go with handbrake high profile, shoot for 3-5mbps 720p if they are HD originals. If they are 480p originals then maybe you're ok with that bitrate.
Personally i shoot for 4gb movies.
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This isnt going to be my sole movie experience device. This is my travel and work companion. 1-1.5 is where I stick for a good action movie. But comedies and such I go lower. Animation I stick around 700mb. When im getting drunk on an airplane, I want to make sure my movies arnt blotchy and pixilated, but they dont have the be blue ray quality. I run a media server at home (plex) and that's where I keep the levels far higher.
I may have to give hand brake a try, I have been using format factory for years because I can make so many adjustments and chose the containers and formats.
get dvdcatalyst to convert your movies. It has a few presets for all devices. they can range from 1 to 4gb, depending on the initial size of the movie and the quality you want. i highly recommend it.
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I appreciate the advice. I don't have an issue converting, I'm just trying to get some feedback as to the actual presets your using as to ratio, bit rate, file type and container types, so on.
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Here's what I personally use, you can set what you like otherwise...
For TV DVD sources, I convert them from anamorphic to square pixel, and then crop widescreen movies as necessary. 640x480 SD videos I use a bitrate of 1mbps. Widescreen stuff I give 1.5mbps. These are the copies I watch on the TV, tablet, phone, whatever and I can't tell any quality difference between the original and the h264 encode. At these levels I can fit all of Home Movies, Futurama S1-5, The Office S1-4 and all of ATHF on one 64gb card.
For movies, since these are just portable copies and not my full versions for home viewing, I use the same standards above for SD sources, and for HD sources I scale it down to 720p, crop if necessary, and use a 2mbps bitrate. (you could insist on a 1080p encode, but on a 10" screen are you really going to notice the difference and need to add in the extra bps?) You get a little more pixelation at times, but nothing unwatchable. This keeps it light enough to stream over my local network and small enough that you can fit a lot on while still being a good watchable version.
All audio I drop to a 96kpbs stereo mix.
This is what works for me. What works for any of you may be different depending on what you use it for.
Exactly what I was looking for.
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what are the appropriate codec (video & audio) settings to get hardware acceleration and native player support?
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what are the appropriate codec (video & audio) settings to get hardware acceleration and native player support?
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For the native player you need h.264(avc) video and stereo aac audio.
i have movies that are h264 and DTS 5.1. I just drop them on my 64gb card (inserted into the doc) and they play fine, nice and crisp. No need to convert. They are about 4gb in size.
timrock said:
i have movies that are h264 and DTS 5.1. I just drop them on my 64gb card (inserted into the doc) and they play fine, nice and crisp. No need to convert. They are about 4gb in size.
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Your playing dts on the native player? Me thinks not. BS player will however,but asked about native
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Your playing dts on the native player? Me thinks not. BS player will however,but asked about native
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yeah, sorry, using BS. native will play the movie, but no sound.
I just can't play movies on my damn Xoom ..I have tried mkv ..avi.. mp4 I tried everything every size but still ridiculously bad the screen is terrible and it is not even near to HD ....Xoom mz604 with supposedley 720p screen ---
The display is 1280 x 800 regardless of what you think it is. Your question being?
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The display is 1280 x 800 regardless of what you think it is. Your question being?
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What I am saying is when I try playing HD movies on it --it is just not HD anymore there is always a weird something like pixels intertwined in the background especially when there is a lot of action --it is just supposed to have a 720p HD screen and one can't enjoy it ..I also tried using stuff like handbrake in order to get it the right stuff but still nothing ..
Can you give us a sample of the video? It could be your video player, try MX player. 720p videos works just fine on my XOOM.
I look movies in Youtube app and the quality is great.
show sample since the display is fine.
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Chaosgod27 said:
Can you give us a sample of the video? It could be your video player, try MX player. 720p videos works just fine on my XOOM.
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mri.project said:
I look movies in Youtube app and the quality is great.
show sample since the display is fine.
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I have tried every MX player be player and a whole different players... and yes videos on YouTube doesn't make any problems
Sounds like your crappy encoding OR video source.
I have never faced this problem... 720p videos play flawlessly some 1080p videos get stuck. Either there is some problem with the ROM you are using or maybe a hardware problem...
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Any thing I've encoded with DVD Catalyst 4 (tools4movies.com), using its XOOM HQXT setting, that were from high quality sources (bluray or dvd), look great on my Xoom's screen.
Playback of movies and TV programs via Netflix streaming on the Xoom also look good.
Playback of those same files or netflix via HDMI out to TV sometimes looks a little blocky. But are still watchable. (Netflix really depends on if its a "HD" playback movie or show to look any decent on a TV).
The Xoom HQXT encoded files look as good as those I've encoded (also using DVD Catalyst) for my MS Surface RT tablet, and Samsung Series 7 Slate PC (XE700T1A) using the Surface HQXT setting.
I hate to say it, but the screen of the iPad3 I have has more vibrant, and HD "TV" like colors, where as my Xoom looks more "washed out" in comparison. The Surface screen looks close to the Xoom.
EDIT: I use Mobo Player to play back on my Xoom.
KidJoe said:
Any thing I've encoded with DVD Catalyst 4 (tools4movies.com), using its XOOM HQXT setting, that were from high quality sources (bluray or dvd), look great on my Xoom's screen.
Playback of movies and TV programs via Netflix streaming on the Xoom also look good.
Playback of those same files or netflix via HDMI out to TV sometimes looks a little blocky. But are still watchable. (Netflix really depends on if its a "HD" playback movie or show to look any decent on a TV).
The Xoom HQXT encoded files look as good as those I've encoded (also using DVD Catalyst) for my MS Surface RT tablet, and Samsung Series 7 Slate PC (XE700T1A) using the Surface HQXT setting.
I hate to say it, but the screen of the iPad3 I have has more vibrant, and HD "TV" like colors, where as my Xoom looks more "washed out" in comparison. The Surface screen looks close to the Xoom.
EDIT: I use Mobo Player to play back on my Xoom.
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I use jelly bean ROM the orginial and I will try mobo player also ...but still
If you use the proper settings, the Xoom can play great-looking 1080p videos.
visit this link on your Xoom using the stock web browser:
http://tools4movies.com/xoom/1080p/pussinboots-tlr1_h1080p.mp4
and use the stock video playback to stream the video.
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If you use the proper settings, the Xoom can play great-looking 1080p videos.
visit this link on your Xoom using the stock web browser:
http://tools4movies.com/xoom/1080p/pussinboots-tlr1_h1080p.mp4
and use the stock video playback to stream the video.
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OK I will try doing it..
Also I tried Mobo player it is better but not totally fixed
Edit: OK I have watched it and it.is Absolutely flawless ..what do usugges I should no now ?? My problem is that I have faced in a lot of movies I was trying to rip .what settings should I choose now?
smallguy6 said:
OK I will try doing it..
Also I tried Mobo player it is better but not totally fixed
Edit: OK I have watched it and it.is Absolutely flawless ..what do usugges I should no now ?? My problem is that I have faced in a lot of movies I was trying to rip .what settings should I choose now?
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What settings to use? Well, when it comes to making Good or even Great looking videos for your Xoom (or other device), it depends on 1. Quality source (crappy source video-in will produce crappy target video-out), 2. the optimum encoder settings for your playback device.
DVD Catalyst 4 has consistently taken care of #2 for me on my Xoom, iPad2, iPad3, BB Playbook, Surface RT and a few of my android phones. It has been the BEST, Easiest, and most reliable way to give me great looking videos to take with me. I've used it to encode DVD's, Blurays, camcorder videos, etc. And they all look great. Ok, so DVD rips don't look as good as Bluray rips, but that is because of the DVD source.
So my Suggestion... Read the following two links...
http://www.tools4movies.com/2012/01/dvd-catalyst-device-profiles-fast-hq-hq2-hqx/ (Note: 99% of the video watching done via my portable devices is done on the device's screen, so I don't use the 1080 profiles for the Xoom and such. Instead I stick with the HQXT for a great balance between output size and playback quality).
http://www.tools4movies.com/2012/04/motorola-xoom-avi-dvd-m2ts-mkv-and-bluray/
One draw back of having multiple play back devices (xoom, ipad2, ipad3, Surface, phone, etc), is that to get the best results, you need to encode the video using the right profile for your playback device. So for me, if I encode a movie for my Xoom today, and decide I want to watch it on my iPad as well, I have to encode the source for the iPad so I have a file encoded the best way for iPad playback. Or if I want to watch it on the Surface RT, I have to then encode using the Surface profile, etc. BUT DVD Catalyst does have profiles for all my devices and more! And they do a great job of adding profiles for newer devices as they come out.
Also keep in mind that I don't know if DVD Catalyst can get around copy protection on DVD's and Blurays as I use AnyDVD HD for this. So if your source DVD or Bluray is copy protected, you might have to deal with that before using DVD Catalyst. I do know that DVD Catalyst can't work with DRM protected video files, like those from iTunes, Ultraviolet, etc.
And NO, I do not work for the company who makes DVD Catalyst, nor am I connected to them in any way. I am just a very satisfied customer who has tried other options (Handbrake, Nero Recode, etc) and haven't been happy with the results until using DVD Catalyst.
KidJoe said:
One draw back of having multiple play back devices (xoom, ipad2, ipad3, Surface, phone, etc), is that to get the best results, you need to encode the video using the right profile for your playback device. So for me, if I encode a movie for my Xoom today, and decide I want to watch it on my iPad as well, I have to encode the source for the iPad so I have a file encoded the best way for iPad playback.
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Thank you KidJoe,
Actually if you use DVDs as a source, the videos you create using one profile will work on just about all your devices.
Only when you are using HD content, you might run into limitations with the iPad2 (max 1280x720) and your phone (depends on the model).
I haven't had any complications with playing HQXT 1080 on the Xoom, iPad3, Surface RT and the Playbook. They even work fine on the new NOOK HD's and Kindle Fire HD's
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Actually if you use DVDs as a source, the videos you create using one profile will work on just about all your devices.
Only when you are using HD content, you might run into limitations with the iPad2 (max 1280x720) and your phone (depends on the model).
I haven't had any complications with playing HQXT 1080 on the Xoom, iPad3, Surface RT and the Playbook. They even work fine on the new NOOK HD's and Kindle Fire HD's
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Thanks. Most of my stuff is encoding from Bluray now a days.
I'm doing it to put movies on my Xoom (using Xoom HQXT profile) for my Son to watch while we travel. When I first got my MS Surface RT, I decided to copy a few of those I had done for the Xoom right onto the Surface and playback was choppy. Run the original through DVD Cat again with the Surface profile picked and they look great on the Surface. And of course, on my wife's iPad2 the ones encoded as Xoom HQXT didn't play right either.
Encoding for each device is a small price to pay for great looking videos on the device that happens to be with us
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Thanks. Most of my stuff is encoding from Bluray now a days.
I'm doing it to put movies on my Xoom (using Xoom HQXT profile) for my Son to watch while we travel. When I first got my MS Surface RT, I decided to copy a few of those I had done for the Xoom right onto the Surface and playback was choppy. Run the original through DVD Cat again with the Surface profile picked and they look great on the Surface. And of course, on my wife's iPad2 the ones encoded as Xoom HQXT didn't play right either.
Encoding for each device is a small price to pay for great looking videos on the device that happens to be with us
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Ah ok,
With Bluray, the resolution comes into play. The iPad1 and iPad2 don't like anything larger that 1280x720. If you change the resolution for the Xoom in "Modify" to 1280x720, the movies you convert for the Xoom will play on the iPad2 as well.
I'm not sure why they would be choppy on the Surface RT though. When my RT came in, I grabbed a bunch of Xoom files I had on a drive, and played them without issues (and the bigger, wider screen did make it look even better )