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[Q] Sears refurb/reconditioned GTab?

I'm considering buying a reconditioned/refurbished Viewsonic G Tablet from the Sears Outlet. I'm intending to install Vegan 5.2 beta, Titanium Backup, etc. as soon as I receive it. Before I pull the trigger, I have a couple of questions:
1. Do I need to be concerned about what version of the hardware I receive? I went to a local retailer (not Sears), and discovered that the hardware model # on their display model was UPC 300-2.2. I've seen messages in this forum about some GTabs in circulation being UPC 320-2.2. If I get a refurb, might it be an earlier, undesirable hardware model? Is this a concern?
2. For HDMI connection, is there a patch cord available that will connect directly from the GTab to my TV, or will I have to buy a dock to make the HDMI connection? Where can I get the patch cord or the dock?
3. Is anyone experiencing low screen touch sensitivity on their GTab? When I was fooling with a demo model in a local store yesterday, it seemed quite unresponsive, almost as if it were a bad resistive screen. Today when I went back to play with it some more, it was better.
4. How sensitive is the wifi reception on the GTab? I.e., compared to your other wifi devices in the same setting, do you get strong or weak reception on your GTab?
5. I'm aware that, when shut down, the GTab loses track of the time. So, I would probably just turn off the wifi and put the GTab to sleep when I'm done using it. How long does a full battery charge last with the tablet asleep and wifi off?
6. Is there any capability that the GTab loses with Vegan installed? Do widgets work okay under Vegan? How about under Vegan with ADW Launcher?
Thanks!

It doesn't lose time when shut down. Get Gojimi's screen recal app. As far as I am concerned you gain functionality when you root and add a ROM. I use Vegan tab 5.1 and am very happy. You need a dock for HDMI

There are several threads in the accessories section that tell you how to get a dock and as far as I know there isn't a patch cord hdmi cable that you can use instead of the dock.
The wifi seems pretty strong. I'm using vegan rom beta 5.1 and I love it.
I do feel the gTab's touch sensitivity isn't as sensitive even after gojimi's screen calibration app when compared to my iPad. Though I love my gTab and like my iPad if that tells you anything.

sjmoreno said:
There are several threads in the accessories section that tell you how to get a dock and as far as I know there isn't a patch cord hdmi cable that you can use instead of the dock.
The wifi seems pretty strong. I'm using vegan rom beta 5.1 and I love it.
I do feel the gTab's touch sensitivity isn't as sensitive even after gojimi's screen calibration app when compared to my iPad. Though I love my gTab and like my iPad if that tells you anything.
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I second this!
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Galaxy Tab 7.0 plus running HOT - anyone else?

Love this tablet but this last few days it has started to get really warm on occasion.
On the left side, about an inch in from the SD card slot, the temperature really builds up quickly starting first on the back of the device and eventually getting so hot on the glass it becomes uncomfortable to hold and to swipe. I've seen 48 degrees!
I have noticed this happening when using Dolphin HD browser and particularly if Skype is running in the background.
I wiped the tab, didn't reinstall from market and just loaded Dolphin and it didn't make any difference.
I'm guessing faulty device since there are only a few isolated reports of this online.

FloridaPhil said:
Love this tablet but this last few days it has started to get really warm on occasion.
On the left side, about an inch in from the SD card slot, the temperature really builds up quickly starting first on the back of the device and eventually getting so hot on the glass it becomes uncomfortable to hold and to swipe. I've seen 48 degrees!
I have noticed this happening when using Dolphin HD browser and particularly if Skype is running in the background.
I wiped the tab, didn't reinstall from market and just loaded Dolphin and it didn't make any difference.
I'm guessing faulty device since there are only a few isolated reports of this online.
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Really strange, Phil. Based on your recommendation in "other" forums I turned in my Nook Tab and got a GTab7Plus and I'm just lovin it. Does everything I'd hoped it would do and more I haven't even figured out. So far, (knock on wood) I haven't gotten the Screen of Death nor has the unit gotten hot for any reason and I'm using dolphin browser exclusively. So......you may have a defective unit. Good luck.

Yeah, I think it was faulty. I took it back to Best Buy and they had not had any other returns for this issue.
Unfortunately they are also out of stock so I don't currently have a tablet at all! Seeing what is coming down the pike in the way of tablets I might just wait and see what transpires in the next 3 months. If I get antsy then I'll just pick up another GT7+ (or back to a Nook Tablet if the CM9 project advances quickly).
Also, do you see a color cast on yours at all? I noticed that when there was a white background, for instance reading a book on Kindle or Nook apps, the right lower side of the page had a warm tinge - pink/peach colored. It was quite irritating.

Having issues with Nook app opening my Nook ebooks.
FloridaPhil said:
Yeah, I think it was faulty. I took it back to Best Buy and they had not had any other returns for this issue.
Unfortunately they are also out of stock so I don't currently have a tablet at all! Seeing what is coming down the pike in the way of tablets I might just wait and see what transpires in the next 3 months. If I get antsy then I'll just pick up another GT7+ (or back to a Nook Tablet if the CM9 project advances quickly).
Also, do you see a color cast on yours at all? I noticed that when there was a white background, for instance reading a book on Kindle or Nook apps, the right lower side of the page had a warm tinge - pink/peach colored. It was quite irritating.
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FloridaPhil:
I have received my 7+ and downloaded and installed the Nook and Kindle apps without a hitch. The Kindle books are fine but I seem to be having a problem opening my Nook books. Darn, I am in the midst of a great book and hate reading on my phone.
Any tips on how best to install and manage my Nook ebooks? And, I have a 32gb sd card which I haven't installed but plan to tonight. Will that make a difference? Should I "format" the card before installing on the 7+? How does that work?
Thanks a bunch!

I noticed on the nook software that I needed to open the software and then reopen it before the book would load. Second time is a charm I guess.
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Mine as well, in the same location as you specified too. Gets damn hot in that location with I'm using it in the car for navigating with Google Maps and it's plugged into the charger. Also in the same scenario the charge level is still going down and not up

I' ve been using VTL Launcher and had some previous issues with my home wifi (couldn't reconnect so my tab was always trying to find it again and again). After resetting router and mainly uninstalling VTL Launcher my tab stopped to be hot and battery life increased rapidly. So I was almost decided tonreturn it due to this problems but since then everything is finally ok and start to enjoy this tab (previously had GT7 original and Note).
Regarding navigation with google maps- consider that there is also huge use of data amount so warmness is probable. I'm using Sygis Aura and has no problems with hottness and also not original car charger has enough power to charge on the roads.

So far haven't noticed the tab getting hot. Just trying to figure out how to use Kies. What a friggin nightmare! Why have they not simplified the Kies interface? It is so convoluted!

aeon101 said:
I' ve been using VTL Launcher and had some previous issues with my home wifi (couldn't reconnect so my tab was always trying to find it again and again). After resetting router and mainly uninstalling VTL Launcher my tab stopped to be hot and battery life increased rapidly. So I was almost decided tonreturn it due to this problems but since then everything is finally ok and start to enjoy this tab (previously had GT7 original and Note).
Regarding navigation with google maps- consider that there is also huge use of data amount so warmness is probable. I'm using Sygis Aura and has no problems with hottness and also not original car charger has enough power to charge on the roads.
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Interesting - but mine was totally stock. Yeah, I had added a ton of apps but it was running regular TouchWizz. My little Nook Color running CM7 has exactly the same apps and doesn't even get warm.

what are you using kies for? my computer (win 7) didn't recognize my tab until
i installed kies, it also installed drivers so i can now transfer files

To FloridaPhil: And how long is your battery life? Is wifi ok? Well I' ve noticed then, that our tab doesn't have still very apropriate task managing and this can be causeb exactly by this. Take a look in settings, applications and battery use...I couldn't believa my eyes but even I'm using good task manager with automatic shutndowns of slected apps, there are still huge amount of running apps that drain battery and may cause getting hot. Next thing as well was a fact, that even when wifi connection held perfectly, there was still word 'searching' each couple of seconds (take a look in wifinsettings...)- so next possible reason for getting warm...

aeon101 said:
Next thing as well was a fact, that even when wifi connection held perfectly, there was still word 'searching' each couple of seconds (take a look in wifinsettings...)- so next possible reason for getting warm...
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It's only searching because your at the wifi settings screen. If you are at the screen where different wifi networks can be selected, android (logically) thinks you might want to select a different network, so scans. If you STAY on that screen, it assumes you want to keep scanning (why else would you stay on that screen?)
This is something that all wifi enabled android devices do. It's NOT scanning every few seconds if you aren't on that specific settings screen...
Gary

Thanks Gary for reasonable explanation, yes this is logical. I was just confused from this, cause not Galaxy Note, nor previous Tab or Streak was behaving like this. But is true that this is my first honeycomb machine and I may not realise this before or it had been different in settings.

aeon101 said:
I was just confused from this, cause not Galaxy Note, nor previous Tab or Streak was behaving like this
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My Galaxy SII (gingerbread, AT&T, SGH-I777) does this as well. Even my iPhone does it.

I'm using Kies Air to wirelessly transfer and synch my contacts, calendar, etc....... Experimented and have transferred photos and some other files. Also worked using the USB cable and my Windows 7 recognized and installed drivers. It recognized the SD card as my E drive.
Regarding the heating up issue, so far I have not experienced this. The battery use is under control when I turn off all wireless when I leave my home.
Getting used to the Touchwiz interface but I also installed Go Launcher EX and use that sometimes.
Video playback is awesome on this little tab; last night I was watching movie trailers and was surprised with the sound as well. The Nook's sound was always a bit weak.
I installed an anti-glare screen film and it is awesome for reading. Doesn't detract from the beautiful display and the fonts are crisp.
Regarding opening my Nook books I realized that it worked as soon as I installed my SD card and I downloaded my books so I wouldn't have to deal with having a wireless connection to read my books.
Playing around with the wallpapers and customizing the Samsung screens and installed a super cool "steam punk skull" live wallpaper and it is amazing! Found it free via the Amazon app store....it is fantastic! I also found other beautiful live wallpapers via the Amazon app store including snow scenes.
The tab connected flawlessly to my Samsung Galaxy 4G T-Mobile phone's access point and used that to stream Pandora and download some Kindle books. It was done in my office which doesn't have the best T-Mobile network access and it was surprisingly fast and smooth. No stuttering of the music and emails and Facebook worked great.
I ordered the 6' long usb cable for the tab via Amazon and it has shipped; hopefully it is well matched and charges up the tab just as well as the stock 3' shortie cable. I noted other comments regarding the slow charging of the tab and found that turning off the wifi or simply shutting it down speeds up the charging dramatically.
So that is my report so far and let me say I am enjoying the 7+ tab immensely.

It got to 40C (104F) today while I was playing GTA. The device it's naked (no covers or anything). I'm going to take it to service centre next week :-(

rendler said:
It got to 40C (104F) today while I was playing GTA. The device it's naked (no covers or anything). I'm going to take it to service centre next week :-(
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Well i guess thats pretty normal, mine goes up to 42C sometimes.. I guess it depends on your surrounding and climate.

You sure it's a normal thing (this temperature range)? I'm here in Thailand so the ambient temperature is hot to begin with, but the thing is; with prolonged used my hands get uncomfortable.

rendler said:
You sure it's a normal thing (this temperature range)? I'm here in Thailand so the ambient temperature is hot to begin with, but the thing is; with prolonged used my hands get uncomfortable.
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So far im still comfortable with it and its not much of a problem to me, im using a case together with it so i cant really feel the heat.. You could try taking it in to where you bought it and see what they have to say ;D

DevilBeyond said:
So far im still comfortable with it nd its not much of a problem to me, im using a case together with it so i cant really feel the heat.. You could try taking it in to where you bought it and see what they have to say ;D
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Just told my wife, she said her galaxy s2 gets hot as well, so I asked her to touch mine ;-)
She says it's about the same. So i really don't know what to think any more, but I'll take it in anyways just for peace of mind.

Crazy Screen Lag when docked, perfect without...

I was ready to return my Transformer. The lag was unbearable (for a brand new device), it would stutter, even some videos of mine would flicker. I use the dock a lot, and was ready to give up. I undocked it - and all is right with the world again. Same videos (off micro-sd card) that were previously stuttering are now playing beautifully.
I was scared that it might be a hardware error, but I know now that this is something someone can fix! Does anyone else have the same issues? I love the dock, and bought it for increased functionality, and would LIKE to use it as a mini-laptop a lot.
Just curious.
Thanks.
DTB

I've noticed this on the desktop screen and in the apps and widgets list, but in my case it was connected to either using touchpad or USB mouse. In this case changing the launcher from stock to custom (like Apex) helps, but I'm not sure this is your case (hope it is, but I haven't noticed any lag when docked and playing videos)

d14b0ll0s said:
I've noticed this on the desktop screen and in the apps and widgets list, but in my case it was connected to either using touchpad or USB mouse. In this case changing the launcher from stock to custom (like Apex) helps, but I'm not sure this is your case (hope it is, but I haven't noticed any lag when docked and playing videos)
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Lucky. What "mode" are you in when docked? And you running full IPS? (Or 'auto'?) I have no idea what it could be. It's not soo terrible that it's unusable, but it's definitely noticeable and annoying even for simple operations. I keep the system clean, not much running in the background. I'm confused - but hoping that future ROM's will optimize the I/O (if that's the cause) when docked.
Thanks.
DTB

I barely use IPS+, normally I use it indoors at about 30% (regular IPS mode), but I doubt it's the real issue. Try a different dock maybe (as I suppose you're on .26 firmware already). Not much else we can do remotely, try different dock, try different tablet, update firmware when possible, factory wipe if nothing else helps, or simply send it back. You should be able to watch the movies the same way when docked and when not, so if there is a significant disproportion between these two, I'd consider returning this unit (bundle).

d14b0ll0s said:
I barely use IPS+, normally I use it indoors at about 30% (regular IPS mode), but I doubt it's the real issue. Try a different dock maybe (as I suppose you're on .26 firmware already). Not much else we can do remotely, try different dock, try different tablet, update firmware when possible, factory wipe if nothing else helps, or simply send it back. You should be able to watch the movies the same way when docked and when not, so if there is a significant disproportion between these two, I'd consider returning this unit (bundle).
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Well...damn. Looks like I might RMA the unit then, and get a new one. Sucks. Been waiting for this device for months! I even did a reset last night, and started from scratch - and still the same result. I was hoping it was a 'common' problem.
DTB

OP are you experiencing this problem on your Infinity after operating it after a cold boot up with the keyboard dock attached, or is your tablet already on and you attach it the dock keyboard and experience this issue?
I think I've seen this issue sparringly in my case, attaching it to the dock while on, but not often because I always keep my tablet docked. In most cases this did not occur when I would re-docked with minimum programs running on the Infinity.

the_game_master said:
OP are you experiencing this problem on your Infinity after operating it after a cold boot up with the keyboard dock attached, or is your tablet already on and you attach it the dock keyboard and experience this issue?
I think I've seen this issue sparringly in my case, attaching it to the dock while on, but not often because I always keep my tablet docked. In most cases this did not occur when I would re-docked with minimum programs running on the Infinity.
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I actually haven't tried starting it up without the dock attached (as I just realized what was going on last night) - will try that and report back in a few hours. Thanks for the suggestion!
DTB

So, I tried a cold boot and plugged the dock in, seemed fine at first, then started getting laggy again. So, I noticed that whenever I put the dock in, you get the message about using the standard keyboard that matches the ASUS hardware keyboard. (I had Swype enabled.) So, that got me thinking Swype could be a problem. I never knew if it was optimized for tablets, or whatever. So, I disabled Swype, and two other software keyboards just for the purpose of troubleshooting (SlideIT Keyboard and SwiftKey) and am just using the stock keyboards pre-installed.
After disabling those keyboards - for now, the lag seems to have been considerably less noticeable. Of course this is all anecdotal and I don't have any true measurements or stats run to determine anything concrete.
Thanks for the suggestions!
DTB

DonToolBag said:
So, I tried a cold boot and plugged the dock in, seemed fine at first, then started getting laggy again. So, I noticed that whenever I put the dock in, you get the message about using the standard keyboard that matches the ASUS hardware keyboard. (I had Swype enabled.) So, that got me thinking Swype could be a problem. I never knew if it was optimized for tablets, or whatever. So, I disabled Swype, and two other software keyboards just for the purpose of troubleshooting (SlideIT Keyboard and SwiftKey) and am just using the stock keyboards pre-installed.
After disabling those keyboards - for now, the lag seems to have been considerably less noticeable. Of course this is all anecdotal and I don't have any true measurements or stats run to determine anything concrete.
Thanks for the suggestions!
DTB
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I noticed the same issue when I docked mine. I don't dock mine that often though. This was not an issue with the prime. Wonder if part of it is the resolution.

Asus Infinity Vs. Laptop

I first got interested in touch screen technology about 4 or 5 years ago when I started college. I faced with the option of getting a powerful laptop, which I was going to need being a computer major, or get a convertible laptop. I studied the problem for a long time and decided that the technology had not progressed far enough to warrant spending so much money on something that had so little real power under the hood. Fast forward a few years and not only has the technology progressed, but is pervasive to say the least. The Infinity is the first tablet I have owned. I know, I might of kinda tried to kill a mosquito with a cannon, but your sure to hit your mark.
I often find myself in conversation with other people trying to justify the money I spent on the tablet with the inevitable question, "Well, what does it do?" I must admit I find myself at a loss of words. I have so many things run though my mind that it can do, i'm just flabbergasted with all the possibilities. I concluded it would be easier to focus on the things that it can not do. The question I pose to you is this, "What can you do on a laptop that you can not do on an android tablet?" We can just go ahead and assume that we are talking about a rooted and unlocked device, because lets be honest, if you find yourself reading forums on a developers website you are probably not your average consumer of electronic devices. I would like to start a running list on this question as I find it is a question I hear a lot from people looking to buy a tablet. At this point, I would say that the caveats of owning a tablet are as follows:
>The obvious answer is less powerful hardware.
>Lots of software is not compatible with Android, but not necessarily a problem, bc there are a host of other android apps that preform almost on par to their desktop counter parts.
> there are limitations on the peripherals due to lack of drivers. (I bring this up, bc, well, I really want to shoot a nerf canon at my dog wirelessly with my tablet.)
>Android does not support writing to external dvd/cd drives, but they can read.
>I pretty sure you can not boot from USB, limiting your ability to run live versions of various os'. I do network security, so I really want Linux Backtrack, and no the virtualized version just does not seem to cut it for me yet, but they are getting closer.
>No room for hardware upgrade
>Weight, I bring this up as a negative, because where there footprint of my device has diminished, I find myself carrying an onslaught of accessories. Stop me if you heard this one:
-Stylus
-USB adapter
-Micro sd card sleeve
-mini USB Hub
-Bluetooth Keyboard, just had one on hand so did not buy dock.
-Headphones
-Charger
-sometimes the micro hdmi cable.
-Small speaker
-screen cloth ( as another member put it, 10" of OCD glory)
-Grid-it Case to orginize all of it
-oh, and a portable surge protector. Overkill you say. I direct you to previous statement about canon.
>No true multitasking, such as split-screen window with to programs, and yes i know you can do it it with some, but your choices are limited in that respect.
>I will need someone to chime in on the next one, but I think you can not use two bt devices at the same time. Someone verify that pls.
>I for some reason can not get this tablet to communicate with my french press no matter how many times it with my Infinity.
I am intentionally omitting the topic of games because that would require a whole different thread. Let's try to stick to utilities and tools. Feel free to point out any mistakes as the goal is to learn.
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lowki said:
>I will need someone to chime in on the next one, but I think you can not use two bt devices at the same time. Someone verify that pls.
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Actually, you can - for example, I can use my bluetooth mouse while at the same time play music through my Belkin Bluetooth Music receiver.
Also, if you have a keyboard dock, a lot of those accessories aren't needed (USB hub, BT keyboard, Card Reader, charger, etc).
But, most of your points are true. One thing that I've found tough to do on a tablet is use MS-Project files. I do have an app to read them, but it isn't the best (plus, it can't edit them)...
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jtrosky said:
Actually, you can - for example, I can use my bluetooth mouse while at the same time play music through my Belkin Bluetooth Music receiver.
Also, if you have a keyboard dock, a lot of those accessories aren't needed (USB hub, BT keyboard, Card Reader, charger, etc).
But, most of your points are true. One thing that I've found tough to do on a tablet is use MS-Project files. I do have an app to read them, but it isn't the best (plus, it can't edit them)...
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try quick office (hd, makes slideshows great)
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Midnitte said:
try quick office (hd, makes slideshows great)
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Quick Office doesn't support MS-Project files...
I think you are thinking of a different Microsoft product...
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Terminal IDE and linux in a chroot

On my laptop I can do serious processing of camera RAW files using Adobe Lightroom (or other processing engines). I have yet to find a true tablet-based equivalent capability.
Dave

No way in recent times can a tablet run like a laptop period.
This is a no brainer...
The latest notebooks are very powerful even in the simplest form.
When it comes to things like; Poser Pro, DAZ Studio, Adobe CS, MS office, Maya, Acrobat, Lightwave, Bryce or whatever you're going to need to lean on a PC or Mac.
Perhaps some day, but not today.
This is all moot

laptop beats it clean.
Heck I was trying to do a simple Google search from the address bar in the Chrome browser on my Infinity tablet. It stalled for a good minute.
In that minute I went over to my PC, launched Chrome, did the exact same action. Boom, it pulled up the results instantly.
I've been wondering how come Chrome works so solid on Windows and lackluster on Google's Android OS until I realized it's likely hardware.
The x86/x64 Intel based CPUs that make of the heart of Windows, Linux, and even MacOS have been in this game for more than a 2 decades and they've been constantly optimizing the CPU for the internet for half of it.
nVidia hasn't, they've making video cards for the majority. I'm starting to think now that had I thought with my old hardware geek mind, I would have never gone with a Android tablet, I should have bought a Windows tablet PC.

Sure, a laptop may be more powerful, but let's see your laptop get over 12 hours of battery life!
For *most* daily tasks, even MS-Office viewing and editing, a tablet can do just fine (at least with a keyboard dock). That's one reason why I bought the Transformer and really won't even consider a tablet without a true keyboard dock option anymore - without the keyboard dock, the device is just too limited for anything other than media consumption.
Add a nice keyboard dock and the tablet can instantly do *so* much more, while still being a great tablet when needed. I just wish there were more options when it came to a tablet with a keyboard dock! It kinda sucks being forced to go with Asus for this type of hybrid device.... But, I think that is slowly changing - it seems more devices with true keyboard docks are on the way. Asus better step up their game in the quality department, that's for sure!
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the_game_master said:
laptop beats it clean.
Heck I was trying to do a simple Google search from the address bar in the Chrome browser on my Infinity tablet. It stalled for a good minute.
In that minute I went over to my PC, launched Chrome, did the exact same action. Boom, it pulled up the results instantly.
I've been wondering how come Chrome works so solid on Windows and lackluster on Google's Android OS until I realized it's likely hardware.
The x86/x64 Intel based CPUs that make of the heart of Windows, Linux, and even MacOS have been in this game for more than a 2 decades and they've been constantly optimizing the CPU for the internet for half of it.
nVidia hasn't, they've making video cards for the majority. I'm starting to think now that had I thought with my old hardware geek mind, I would have never gone with a Android tablet, I should have bought a Windows tablet PC.
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Its only bad optimization on the infinity tablet. As the same SoC, only a slower version, it is extremly speedy on the nexus 7 tablet. We just have to hope for the best with the JB update.
And for Windows tablet PCs, the batterylife is nowhere compareable to ultrabooks and the infinity. So you have that downside.

I think this is at the root of many of the complaints from people. It looks like a laptop so why doesn't it perform like one. For basic tasks this is a really fantastic device but lets face it, your are running an OS based for something meant to be on and in your pocket 24/7. Its getting better but will it have the physical ability to do the things that a device with 20+ years of development? Not any time soon.
For me the always on feature is really awsome, touchscreen, small size and low power consumption help too. It replaces my laptop on travel and has opened the doors to media that I rarely used on my Viao. But the Viao still sits in its dock on my desk and splashtop manages to cover the shortcommings.
I think there would be less complaints if people did more research prior to purchase, not just about the device but also about the OS.

Of course the tablet won't take over the laptop in demanding tasks. The hardware for the laptop is a lot better. But the weight, battery life, portability, etc on a tablet is much better. Different devices for different purposes. But the dock is precisely why I like this device so much. It's still not a laptop, but at least for certain tasks I can make it as fast as one (for input). I definitely won't have to buy a laptop any time soon, since I already have a PC to do powerful tasks.
To each his own, I guess.
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[Q] Would you buy Asus Transformer TF700 today or something else with the same money?

Hi,
I want to buy my first tablet and I am looking for something with 9-10 inches screen and sure android based. So far I decided that the Asus Transformer TF700 is the answer for me (the 32 GB version) I am wondering whether there are other potential good tablets with the same price tag or this is the best one can get in this price range.
Thanks.

Right now I would wait if I could reconsider. See if nexus coming with a bigger tablet.
This isn't a horrible tablet yet there are serious issues and Asus seems like neglected us
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legolas.w said:
Hi,
I want to buy my first tablet and I am looking for something with 9-10 inches screen and sure android based. So far I decided that the Asus Transformer TF700 is the answer for me (the 32 GB version) I am wondering whether there are other potential good tablets with the same price tag or this is the best one can get in this price range.
Thanks.
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I would buy it again. We've got some great ICS and Jelly Bean custom roms (some are a work in process, but almost there--good enough to be my daily driver) and the official JB update is coming soon. I guess ASUS quality assurance leaves something to be desired, but my tablet and dock are great and I'm very happy with the Infinity.

2 weeks in to owning it and i would buy it again. I have not noticed any physical problems with my device.
I kinda wish i would have tried a 7" so that it was easier to carry around at times. I still think that I would want to have this device in the end. I love the I/O connections(kinda slow) but very helpful when I am shooting video with a bunch of GoPros outdoors. Now i don't have a carry a full sized laptop just to manage the files.

Sadly, I returned my third TF700 back to Amazon yesterday. Between the loosely mounted screen, the poor wifi reception (despite being a few feet from the router) and the multiple-times-per-day reboots due to icon disappearances and crashes, I couldn't justify keeping it.
With that said, I have every intention of buying it again once JB is officially released for it. The tablet display is gorgeous and I love the overall weight and form factor. I could have lived with the slight display mounting issue but I couldn't get around how laggy and crash-prone it was.
I have JB on my Galaxy Nexus and the performance is stellar and given what I've read from TF700 owners who have added a custom JB ROM to their tablets, I am confident that once an official ASUS build is released, most/all of the software problems will be resolved. Right?

Ehhh...
I'd buy again.
Probably try to get a champagne one and 64gb...of course the money would be more.
I really want to get another Acer A700 because the price tag on that tab is steadily dropping.

brianmatiash said:
Sadly, I returned my third TF700 back to Amazon yesterday. Between the loosely mounted screen, the poor wifi reception (despite being a few feet from the router) and the multiple-times-per-day reboots due to icon disappearances and crashes, I couldn't justify keeping it.
With that said, I have every intention of buying it again once JB is officially released for it. The tablet display is gorgeous and I love the overall weight and form factor. I could have lived with the slight display mounting issue but I couldn't get around how laggy and crash-prone it was.
I have JB on my Galaxy Nexus and the performance is stellar and given what I've read from TF700 owners who have added a custom JB ROM to their tablets, I am confident that once an official ASUS build is released, most/all of the software problems will be resolved. Right?
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It's looking good. We're just at the beginning of that road, but there's a lot that can be done. Better luck next time!

As it stands right now, I suggest you should hold on to your money, Asus tf700 is a big disappointment for me. I was so excited about this table, and now NO ONE in my family wants to use it. The only thing good about this table is the high resolution screen, but maybe this's the issue, the O/S is not optimized for this kind of resolution? who knows? Anyway If you really like this table, wait until they released Jelly Been and check back to this forum to see it indeed Jelly Bean will addressed all the issues. Don't listen to the people that claimed they love their tables, maybe a few out there claimed that have a perfect one? but the odds will go against you. Not worth 600$ the way it works right now.

I'd buy again -- love the connectivity, love the screen -- lots of storage space. Furthermore, I have few issues with mine, and the keyboard dock is the absolute hammer for me -- typing and an extra battery. Seals the deal!

I love it, and would still buy it

I would still buy it also.
There are only four things that annoy me so far:
- It takes a few seconds for the keyboard to initialize, so you have to wait a few seconds with enter the code
- Tegra 3 seems to have a little strugle with handling 1920x1200, especially compared with CM10 (JB) on my Galaxy S2
- Android interface, especially in 3rd party apps is not yet tailored to use with a keyboard
- USB and SD going in to sleep together with the system, so I cannot charge my phone via micro-USB and it has to re-initialize SD every time (I like to have a setting for this)
Judging on what an improvement going from ICS to JB (CM9 --> CM10) made for my SGS2 I expect most of these issues to be resolved in the future with updated software, so I'm not woried.
What I absolutely love:
- The size as a small laptop and the detachable 'screen', and using the touchscreen (it draws attention when commuting in the train ), the aways-on just like a phone
- That it doesn't get hot - at all (unlike my Galaxy S2)
- Brightness of the screen, and it's resolution
- The good battery life when used in conjuction with the dock (which is how I use it 95% of the time)

I really don't like saying this because I have had very good results with Asus products I have purchased over the years. I would, buy a Samsung or a Toshiba. I am thinking about returning it again and just doing this and having it over with once and for all. I know they aren't as nice as the Asus but I sit here everyday and watch my wife do everything SHE wants to do on her Toshiba AT105-T1032 while she simultaneously laughs at me plodding along on my quad core super tablet. Opps, gotta go now she wants to see who's will boot up first from power off. I loose everytime, man I'm getting tired of doing the dishes every night

rikc said:
There are only four things that annoy me so far:
- It takes a few seconds for the keyboard to initialize, so you have to wait a few seconds with enter the code
- Tegra 3 seems to have a little strugle with handling 1920x1200, especially compared with CM10 (JB) on my Galaxy S2
- Android interface, especially in 3rd party apps is not yet tailored to use with a keyboard
- USB and SD going in to sleep together with the system, so I cannot charge my phone via micro-USB and it has to re-initialize SD every time (I like to have a setting for this)
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FYI - there is a "solution" to problems 1 & 4: If you want to be able to use the keyboard instantly after turning in on and keep your USB port on the dock active when the TF700 is in standby, you can do that by disabling the "Mobile Dock Battery Saving" mode in Settings->Asus customized settings. Just make sure you back out of the settings screen in order to make the setting "take effect". This will also allow you to wake your TF700 with the keyboard dock (instead of using the power button).
The downside is that your TF700 will never enter "deep sleep", so your battery will drain faster in standby mode...
I just tested this and was able to charge my Nexus 7 from from TF700, even in standby mode.
So, there already is a setting for this....
Regarding the keyboard, I've yet to have any issues with the keyboard in third party apps - could you please elaborate?
Hope this helps.
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I love my infinity, the keyboard dock is just what i wanted
The IO issues of tegra3, poor Asus customer support, Bad warrenty coverage (everything is CID), and high fail rate make me sad tho...
Would i buy another one? Not likely. I'd prolly stick with the galaxy tab 2, Samsung may not update as quickly howeverits very easy to flash custom kernels and roms and loooots of options there.
If only we could get the Asus tablet with Samsung level QA and workmanship. Lots of people bash how "plastic" Sammy devices feel but i have yet to have one fall apart on me

Yeah, I think that Asus was more concerned with form over function with the TF700 - they were so worried about being the thinnest and lightest tablet (along with being nice looking) that they were just too hard to actually build!
We'll see how things go in the future, especially with Jelly Bean, but I just get the feeling that the TF700 isn't going to stand the test of time. Hopefully, I'm wrong.
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Had my TF700 64gb 5 weeks and yes would buy again, very good screen as I use outdoors mostly in very bright light 7inch would just not be big enough for me. Had the occassional reboot but so much better with a cold reboot once a week thanks to the advice on this forum.
No loose screen or noticable light bleed, wifi connection in comparison with my Samsung Gio is just as good if not a little better.
I did not buy the model with the keyboard dock as it was not available at the time of purchase and still a little nervouse about getting one due to the screen crack issue but have invested in the Anker Archos3 battery which is great if you are out for a full day and need that extra bit of battery power.
This is my first tablet but have used an android phone before, did not want to go down the Apple route seems to be more of a fashionable item to buy going back to the ipod days and that sort of thing always puts me off.
There are always going to be problems with an early adoption of any device so far I am a happy user.

jtrosky said:
FYI - there is a "solution" to problems 1 & 4: If you want to be able to use the keyboard instantly after turning in on and keep your USB port on the dock active when the TF700 is in standby, you can do that by disabling the "Mobile Dock Battery Saving" mode in Settings->Asus customized settings. Just make sure you back out of the settings screen in order to make the setting "take effect". This will also allow you to wake your TF700 with the keyboard dock (instead of using the power button).
The downside is that your TF700 will never enter "deep sleep", so your battery will drain faster in standby mode...
I just tested this and was able to charge my Nexus 7 from from TF700, even in standby mode.
So, there already is a setting for this....
Regarding the keyboard, I've yet to have any issues with the keyboard in third party apps - could you please elaborate?
Hope this helps.
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Actually that was one of the first things I did Because I use my tranformer as a PC replacement. I didn't want to push the unlock button every time. The SD-card still powers off in this mode when the screen is of and there is the delay when typing in in a password or code from the keyboard.
I've btw done a lot of optimizing by now on the stock rom -for which you need root access - Disabled a great bunch of programs, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1897099. Also I now disabled some more programs, replaced the stock launcher with a lightweight alternative (Holo launcher HD), and replaced all media related programs (Gallery, Google Play Music, Videoplayer) with lightweight alternatives (Quickgallery, Clean player, BSplayer which serves as a youtube substitute as well). This allows you to disable the media storage process alltogether. This appears to take a great load of the Infinity's shoulders and it now is starting the feel and behave like a state-of-the-art PC system in terms of speed and input response BTW Office Suite let's you use the cursor keys and shift keys in it's spreadsheet editor and is not laggy unlike it's competitors when using this input method (Quickoffice, for which I still had a licence and Polaris which is preinstalled). Also Dolphin Browser beta is not laggy when typing from the keyboard like Firefox Beta, next to that it allows you to use the scroll wheel on a external mouse and seems to perform better on a optimized system than FF beta (which was my prefered solution when I still had my system less optimized).

rikc said:
Actually that was one of the first things I did Because I use my tranformer as a PC replacement. I didn't want to push the unlock button every time. The SD-card still powers off in this mode when the screen is of and there is the delay when typing in in a password or code from the keyboard.
I've btw done a lot of optimizing by now on the stock rom -for which you need root access - Disabled a great bunch of programs, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1897099. Also I now disabled some more programs, replaced the stock launcher with a lightweight alternative (Holo launcher HD), and replaced all media related programs (Gallery, Google Play Music, Videoplayer) with lightweight alternatives (Quickgallery, Clean player, BSplayer which serves as a youtube substitute as well). This allows you to disable the media storage process alltogether. This appears to take a great load of the Infinity's shoulders and it now is starting the feel and behave like a state-of-the-art PC system in terms of speed and input response BTW Office Suite let's you use the cursor keys and shift keys in it's spreadsheet editor and is not laggy unlike it's competitors when using this input method (Quickoffice, for which I still had a licence and Polaris which is preinstalled). Also Dolphin Browser beta is not laggy when typing from the keyboard like Firefox Beta, next to that it allows you to use the scroll wheel on a external mouse and seems to perform better on a optimized system than FF beta (which was my prefered solution when I still had my system less optimized).
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Hmm, I'm a little confused now - the OP stated that your USB port won't charge your phone, yet you say that you have already disabled the "Mobile Dock Power Save Mode"? Or are you saying that you disabled that *after* posting the original post? Like I said, even in standby, I can still charge USB devices with that mode disabled...
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Hmm, I'm a little confused now - the OP stated that your USB port won't charge your phone, yet you say that you have already disabled the "Mobile Dock Power Save Mode"? Or are you saying that you disabled that *after* posting the original post? Like I said, even in standby, I can still charge USB devices with that mode disabled...
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In my situation:
- Screen on: It charges my phone over microusb
- Screen of: nope
Also a sd-card in the docking station is remounted every time the screen goes on.
Mobile battery switching mode is de-selected.
When it's enabled the keyboard can also not wake the tablet, have to use the power button on the tablet itself then.

rikc said:
In my situation:
- Screen on: It charges my phone over microusb
- Screen of: nope
Also a sd-card in the docking station is remounted every time the screen goes on.
Mobile battery switching mode is de-selected.
When it's enabled the keyboard can also not wake the tablet, have to use the power button on the tablet itself then.
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Strange - that's how mine acted before disabling the mobile dock battery saving mode, but after disabling it,my tablet will continue to change my devices even when screen is off and I can wake my table my simply touching the trackpad (even if it's disabled). You may want to try enabling and re-disabling the battery saving mode, making sure to exit setting after each change....
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