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New update next week? A little rant also

I had random shutdowns and went through all the troubleahooting over the phone and when I went to turn it at their warranty center per the phone support, the tech at the warranty center did a master reset and said the randon shutdowns are a software glitch with an app i downloaded. (it was looping the boot sequence over and over untill i pulled the battery on stock jh7.) I also mentioned my gps hasent worked since day one (august) and he said an update is coming this week to fix that i said that the last update was supposed to be the fix he says this is the fix. So maybe this week? By the way he said i have a 1 year warranty and if its not right they will replace it. At what point are they going to be replacing our phones?
Sorry but had rant a little its getting a little annoying now

We hear updates are coming almost every week. I will be glad to see it when it comes but I will not get my hopes up. I will believe it when I see it or in this case download it.

Agreed, they will tell you what you want to hear to get you out of their face. It's customer service 101 (I was a golf pro for 16 years so I know).
Bottom line is if you are unhappy with the phone he told you your have a year to replace. If you are insinuating they are going to replace all our phones because of the GPS fault, you got another thing coming. Right now they are more concerned with selling new phones for the holidays. When that rush is over then maybe they worry about making anything right.
My two cents.

has samsung all together abandoned this phone in favor of the newer nexus s? I sure do hope not.

we are waiting on the carriers to release the Froyo update... they have had them for awhile now... more than likely expect the release in Q1 of 2011

i doubt we will get an update

seriously, i'll be a miracle if samsung does end up fixing these issues. they have been present since day one.

Samsung has released Froyo to the carriers for the entire SGS line. We are waiting on AT&T, not Samsung.
As far as the GPS goes, the Rogers Wireless Captivate has a GPS that is flawless by all reports. Samsung claims they released a fix for the GPS. Based on these two pieces of information, I think we are at AT&T's mercy on this too...
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jonjonk said:
has samsung all together abandoned this phone in favor of the newer nexus s? I sure do hope not.
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IIUC, Samsung has released the update. We're waiting on AT&T not Samsung...that is if I've got it right.
Mike

I think I'll hang out til about a week after 1/1 for an "official" 2.2..then I'll spend some time reading up on these forums on what/how to flash 2.2 and see what happens. I'm not a tinkerer, and IMO the stock Captivate is great-GPS works fine, I don't have any major needs for anything more, but it is tempting

We don't really know if AT&T has the final build or not. But the Samsung Twitter account still says 2.2 by the end of the year

cappysw10 said:
Agreed, they will tell you what you want to hear to get you out of their face. It's customer service 101 (I was a golf pro for 16 years so I know).
Bottom line is if you are unhappy with the phone he told you your have a year to replace. If you are insinuating they are going to replace all our phones because of the GPS fault, you got another thing coming. Right now they are more concerned with selling new phones for the holidays. When that rush is over then maybe they worry about making anything right.
My two cents.
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Yeah, the holidays will have them hoppin' to sell and that means customer service can easily go by the way side.
BTW, since it costs the gov't 1.67¢ to produce a penny..your two cents worth is actually 3.34¢ worth.
Mike

MicroBeta said:
Yeah, the holidays will have them hoppin' to sell and that means customer service can easily go by the way side.
BTW, since it costs the gov't 1.67¢ to produce a penny..your two cents worth is actually 3.34¢ worth.
Mike
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Holy hell.....I'm rich. I hope that doesn't put me in a higher tax bracket come Jan.

mattbeau said:
I had random shutdowns and went through all the troubleahooting over the phone and when I went to turn it at their warranty center per the phone support, the tech at the warranty center did a master reset and said the randon shutdowns are a software glitch with an app i downloaded. (it was looping the boot sequence over and over untill i pulled the battery on stock jh7.) I also mentioned my gps hasent worked since day one (august) and he said an update is coming this week to fix that i said that the last update was supposed to be the fix he says this is the fix. So maybe this week? By the way he said i have a 1 year warranty and if its not right they will replace it. At what point are they going to be replacing our phones?
Sorry but had rant a little its getting a little annoying now
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Out of curiosity what app did you download that was causing random shutdowns. I'm having random shutdowns now, when my battery is around 45-46%. But I noticed that it doesn't happen when data connections are turned off.

vikdmon said:
Out of curiosity what app did you download that was causing random shutdowns. I'm having random shutdowns now, when my battery is around 45-46%. But I noticed that it doesn't happen when data connections are turned off.
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Nothing in particular; facebook, memento pro, xda, astro, slacker radio.... Ect ect. I have been running stock for a while now and i have no idea why it started. I just noticed my pocket kept "launching rockets" repetedly and found my gone looping a boot. Thats the main reason i was going to return it. But alas it hasent had any reboot problems since. So maybe this might work for you. If it starts again, However, ill probably try to return it again.
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LG Claiming COnstant Reboots "Not a Known Issue" with the G2X....REALLY LG????

LG Claiming COnstant Reboots "Not a Known Issue" with the G2X....REALLY LG????
I literally just called LG Electronics and the Rep told me that this is not a "known issue" with this device. OMG really??? I asked the Rep to Google it herself, and she will see 1000's of complaints from consumers, she told me LG doesn't pay attention to blogs???? So how is a patch coming if they are denying there is even an issue? Call for yourself 800-243-0000. They kept telling me that I must have dropped it or submersed it in liquid. TERRIBLE customer service!!! I most likely will be returning this thing today. I am a man with a sour taste in my mouth now.

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I literally just called LG Electronics and the Rep told me that this is not a "known issue" with this device. OMG really??? I asked the Rep to Google it herself, and she will see 1000's of complaints from consumers, she told me LG doesn't pay attention to blogs???? So how is a patch coming if they are denying there is even an issue? Call for yourself 800-243-0000. They kept telling me that I must have dropped it or submersed it in liquid. TERRIBLE customer service!!! I most likely will be returning this thing today. I am a man with a sour taste in my mouth now.
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Good choice.

You know venting and saying you're returning the device is only going to get you flamed right?

the rep that told you that is stupid. lg is making a fix for the g2x and o2x.

Did you contact the mobile phone department? The number for LG mobile phone customer service is different thatn what's posted, it should be 800-793-8896.

"Sour taste in my mouth" that's what she said....
G2X

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"Sour taste in my mouth" that's what she said....
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Bwahahahah!

Mine DEFINITELY rebooted for no reason earlier today. it was just sitting there.... i wasn't even using it for anything and it rebooted. *shrug*

Really? I'm on my 4th replacement and when it rebooted yesterday EVERYTHING was erased including gmail and the marketplace. The phone wouldn't lock, camera wouldn't work or the home and back buttons. They vibrated when you touched them but they wouldn't function, at all.
i guess its really just time to start complaining so they will push a OTA update out for us, its getting ridiculous!

"i guess its really just time to start complaining so they will push a OTA update out for us, its getting ridiculous!"
100% agree, yes it is time, and I don't care if people "flame" me for wanting the device I paid my hard earned cash to work properly. And FYI I called LG again, and a different Rep said he had never heard of the issue. AMAZING!!!

I say this all the time and I guess I'll say it again. Flash CM7.
What is so hard about it? Why are you guys torturing yourselves?
We all know the kernel is wonky because it is a BRAND NEW PHONE. If you don't want wonky, then stick with your 2 year old phone and wait until the G2x is 2 years old and then buy it.
If everyone knows the stock roms cause reboots and the solution is to use a different kernel and rom, then why sit there and flame and get mad? Obviously you are on XDA for a reason.
I don't know anyone using CM7 that is complaining about reboots. So the answer is obvious. Flash CM7 or return the phone and wait 2 years.

SoFaKiNgStOkeD said:
"i guess its really just time to start complaining so they will push a OTA update out for us, its getting ridiculous!"
100% agree, yes it is time, and I don't care if people "flame" me for wanting the device I paid my hard earned cash to work properly. And FYI I called LG again, and a different Rep said he had never heard of the issue. AMAZING!!!
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agreed!! I sold my dam books for this phone...

Speak of the Devil!
Reboot Fix
Just flash through Recovery and your problems will be solved!

Tried again with your #, got the same song and dance, was told it was not a known issue???

The reps on the phone don't know what they are talking about.
LG knows about this issue.
http://www.lgforum.com/forum/boards/general/lg/topics/g2x-freezing-and-rebooting-issues-same-as-optimus-2x
I suggest going to their site over calling. They seem more helpful there.

player911 said:
I say this all the time and I guess I'll say it again. Flash CM7.
What is so hard about it? Why are you guys torturing yourselves?
We all know the kernel is wonky because it is a BRAND NEW PHONE. If you don't want wonky, then stick with your 2 year old phone and wait until the G2x is 2 years old and then buy it.
If everyone knows the stock roms cause reboots and the solution is to use a different kernel and rom, then why sit there and flame and get mad? Obviously you are on XDA for a reason.
I don't know anyone using CM7 that is complaining about reboots. So the answer is obvious. Flash CM7 or return the phone and wait 2 years.
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You're missing the point entirely, and I feel so sorry for you.
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Speak of the Devil!
Reboot Fix
Just flash through Recovery and your problems will be solved!
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File is down, but did anyone try the update with success?

Could the reboots be the NSA using our cellphones as a bug to listen in on our conversations? Because you know a couple years ago when the patriot act was being implemented they spoke of using cell phones to spy on citizens. And the fast battery drain makes it even more suspect since it's a symptom of cell phone spyware or virus. Could it be that all the new smartphones are a tool for "Big Brother"? Hmm. You decide...

You know that big brother thing makes sense when you consider the front facing camera and all. I wonder where I can find a tinfoil case for this phone...
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All these problems are because of how new the phone is, like others have said. The phone has bad drivers, LG messed up when writing them...it is the first tegra 2 device after all... give it some time... btw since I've installed CM 7 I haven't really had any problems other then the usual nightly/beta problems. I haven't had any random reboots or anything like that.
LG will bring out an update to fix the problems... hopefully soon
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LG confirms update is coming for G2X, stops reboots/freezes - also Gingerbread...

Probably the single most informative thread I've read about this phone ever.
http://www.lgforum.com/forum/boards...-issues-where-is-our-update-in-the-us-for-g2x
Look at the responses from the LG Pro guy and the Moderator. They outright confirm there's an update that fixes the issue - one guy already has it on his phone and it's stable. Then the other guy says Gingerbread build is almost done so they were going to wait to release update and bundle with Gingerbread. All in all, it's a total clusterf*ck BUT...BUT at least they are giving information. Most companies wouldn't have said anything.
Now that I know this, I am more willing to deal with any reboots/issues - let's hope we don't wait long. The post says maybe 2 weeks.

My local T-Mobile reps say the software update is supposed to come out end of summer...
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I wouldnt fully trust what they say on those forums. If they do roll out a fix soon, it probably wont include gingerbread. Gingerbread will probably be rolled out closer to mid summer according to my sources. I guess that LGs and Tmobiles meaning of soon doesnt mean anything. I just try to keep my mind off of this issue but but its difficult to do that when the phone freezes and reboots. LCD bleed I can handle.
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Let's be frank, the T-Mobile reps are unknowledgeable at best and flat out misleading at worst. I want to preface this by saying I've had absolutely no problems with my G2X and it's from early March. This includes no battery-drain issues (battery lasts around 20 hours with moderate use, which is fine with me), no GPS issues, no random freezes or reboots, and only minor light bleeding that doesn't bother me. I love this phone.
That being said, at least half of the people that bought this phone are having issues. If it's really going to be the end of Summer, T-Mobile really screwed the pooch here—and it is T-Mobile's fault, not LG's. Let me state this again, if you're pissed off at the G2X, complain to T-Mobile. The above thread outlines very clearly that LG knows there's an issue, has fixed the issue, and is being held from releasing said fix by T-Mobile trying to strategize a release date.
It's really obnoxious that people complain about LG being to blame for everything, when very likely T-Mobile rushed them into releasing a phone before they could iron all of the software bugs out just so they could claim to be the first carrier with a dual-core phone and is now holding up the release of very critical fixes.
That being said, if you're having issues with your G2X, instead of coming to xda-developers and complaining about it, hop on Twitter and let T-Mobile know you're pissed. Don't just threaten to bring the phone back: link to the LG thread and demand to know why they're preventing LG from releasing the patch. Even if you hate the phone and intend on returning it, there is clearly an issue with T-Mobile delaying the release of updates the phone manufacturers have ready and it's something they need to be told is unacceptable.

I've posted on T-mobile's Twitter about how the fix is available, but T-mobile refuses to release the patch. Lets spread the word and Hammer their twitter page with that information.

zenstrom said:
Let's be frank, the T-Mobile reps are unknowledgeable at best and flat out misleading at worst. I want to preface this by saying I've had absolutely no problems with my G2X and it's from early March. This includes no battery-drain issues (battery lasts around 20 hours with moderate use, which is fine with me), no GPS issues, no random freezes or reboots, and only minor light bleeding that doesn't bother me. I love this phone.
That being said, at least half of the people that bought this phone are having issues. If it's really going to be the end of Summer, T-Mobile really screwed the pooch here—and it is T-Mobile's fault, not LG's. Let me state this again, if you're pissed off at the G2X, complain to T-Mobile. The above thread outlines very clearly that LG knows there's an issue, has fixed the issue, and is being held from releasing said fix by T-Mobile trying to strategize a release date.
It's really obnoxious that people complain about LG being to blame for everything, when very likely T-Mobile rushed them into releasing a phone before they could iron all of the software bugs out just so they could claim to be the first carrier with a dual-core phone and is now holding up the release of very critical fixes.
That being said, if you're having issues with your G2X, instead of coming to xda-developers and complaining about it, hop on Twitter and let T-Mobile know you're pissed. Don't just threaten to bring the phone back: link to the LG thread and demand to know why they're preventing LG from releasing the patch. Even if you hate the phone and intend on returning it, there is clearly an issue with T-Mobile delaying the release of updates the phone manufacturers have ready and it's something they need to be told is unacceptable.
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T-mobile rep here
you have a great point, it was most likely T-Mobile (NOT the reps) that rushed the release of it but does not mean LG isnt completely innocent either. So please if you do want to vent/complain about the phone do so by contacting "T-mobile" directly and not taking it out on the reps. As far as labeling the reps "unknowledgeable at best and flat out misleading at worst" does not go for ALL reps. I know im not the typical rep but i started out with smartphones a few years back with the Cingular 8525, flashing roms for a couple years now, I follow all the tech blogs and majoring in Electronics Engineering, currently in my senior year. In other words, I know my stuff. t-mobile tries their best to train us on most subjects but of course we are not Cellular phone engineers at the end of the day. Last time i checked my tittle was RETAIL SALES associates. so if you need help with buying the phone and some info/differences about the phone, that is why we are here. We dont have a direct communication line with the manufactures, so i dont know why people expect us to have all the answers. not trying to bash anyone just thought the reps should have a small voice in the matter
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Would you believe it.... I turned my Nexus One on to get it ready to sell it...and I just got and installed the ota for Gingerbread 2.3.4 LOL now if only for my G2x.....

I think both Tmobile and LG are at fault for releasing a really buggy phone; hardware and software. Also, the only phones you can count on for getting updated are the Nexus phones. However, im happy with my G2x and coming from the more stable G2, i still enjoy using my G2x more. I have faith that several of the software issues will get fixed eventually. If not, give the cyanogen folks some time and im sure they will cook up a stable rom before the official gingerbread arrives.

You all say blame tmo for pushing lg, but lg released the O2x and it also has the same basic issues right and that was released prior to the G2x.
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If they don't push the update out soon, I'm returning and getting myself a blackberry pearl flip phone. I'm jk. I heard the next google phone is going to be manufactured by LG? Will it be called the Nexus 2x?

Nexus 3 will be amazing. It comes out this December and will have Ice Cream Sandwhich
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The biggest problem no one has pointed out....
This is basically confirmed to be a hardware/software issue, and it does basically affect all G2X phones one way or another. So how on earth are these issues never brought up in "professional" reviews. So this brings two disturbing facts. Tmo/LG cherry picked working phones for the reviewers and packed the failing phones in boxes for customers, or the reviewers were shills or they were lazy turned on the phone, saw it was basically a super-powered Nexus-ish phone, ran a couple Tegra games and just went by the specs for the review and never actually tested the phone. No matter what the case, it's disturbing. I'm on my 3rd g2x, and miss the stability of my Nexus One (I still have it, but really want the G2X to run at LEAST as well as my Nexus One.
Hell when I got this I was hoping to have a smooth experience with Live Wallpapers, but it was just slightly less "jerky" then on the Nexus One...I was sad...

This is the most stable phone I've had and I've had many...
No reboot issues here, and I've had 3 different ones.. Phone never freezes, slows, reboots, lags etc....
Sorry you all are having bad experiences, but every phone forum has complaints and people claiming the phone is plagued with bugs..
Well, not me and I have had it since release....
I'm calling user error lol j/k but damn if yall just had my 3 different ones you would be in love..
Back to topic.. I hope yall get a update (i dont need it) so people can stop harping on this awesome phone...

smashpunks said:
This is the most stable phone I've had and I've had many...
No reboot issues here, and I've had 3 different ones.. Phone never freezes, slows, reboots, lags etc....
Sorry you all are having bad experiences, but every phone forum has complaints and people claiming the phone is plagued with bugs..
Well, not me and I have had it since release....
I'm calling user error lol j/k but damn if yall just had my 3 different ones you would be in love..
Back to topic.. I hope yall get a update (i dont need it) so people can stop harping on this awesome phone...
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This post is begging for an answer....................................why did you have 3 devices and its so damn great?
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I'm not holding my breath for the update anytime soon but does anyone know if this will fix the screen of death/battery pull issue? Are they related?

On stock 2.2.2 or the leaked gb problem's
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tackleberry said:
This post is begging for an answer....................................why did you have 3 devices and its so damn great?
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Lol.. Dont cry.... Scratched one, dust in other, new one.great.. all three great in the non freezing and rebooting department...

I didn't have a single lock-up until I went to a 2.3.3 ROM. And now I'm getting them... Sooo, I could just go back to stock and fix it.. but I don't want to to. I'd rather post another post about how my phone locks up.

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I didn't have a single lock-up until I went to a 2.3.3 ROM. And now I'm getting them... Sooo, I could just go back to stock and fix it.. but I don't want to to. I'd rather post another post about how my phone locks up.
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I had reboots and was forced to do a factory reset 5 times until I started to flash nightlies. Now I get no reboots at all, though the battery issue is still unresolved...and I can't use wifi.
Robbing Peter to pay Paul, it appears.

I would have to say that my unit has been amazing. I traded my nexus s for this current unit and I have flashed TW B2 rom before then and after no freezing, reboots, and it has light LDC bleed. The LCD thing dose not bother me and I can only expect the best for this device!

Why is the G2x still out of stock on T-Mobile.com?

It's time for T-Mobile and LG to come clean on why the G2x is still “temporarily” out of stock on T-Mobile’s website.
We first heard from readers on May 20th that the G2x was pulled from T-Mobile.com, though existing customers were still able to upgrade to the device. We ran our original story on May 25th with a rumor that the G2x may have been pulled for quality control issues, issues several of you reported experiencing, lending some plausibility to the rumor.
T-Mobile quickly caught wind of our and other stories on the G2x, and quickly attempted, via Twitter, to squash those rumors with an official statement, which was confirmed to Android and Me by a T-Mobile insider.
The T-Mobile G2x with Google has been a highly popular device with both customers and employees since its launch last month, and high demand has resulted in inventory constraints, which we are working with LG to address.
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It’s been nearly a full month since the G2x was initially taken down from Tmobile.com, leading us to believe our initial reports that the G2x was pulled for reasons other than a stock shortage. Could it really take LG this long to manufacture enough devices to replenish T-Mobile’s supply?
The Rumors
We’ve reached out to numerous T-Mobile and LG insiders for comment, and have received three different potential reasons for why the G2x is still unavailable:
The reason the G2x is out of stock is simply a supply issue.
T-Mobile is unwilling to put the G2x back on the market until LG is able to push out an update to resolve the various quality issues that have plagued the G2x since launch.
T-Mobile is unwilling to put the G2x back on the market until LG has completed the expected Gingerbread update.
One Android Insider’s Take on the Rumors
At this point, it’s been almost a month since the G2x was taken off the market, leaving it highly unlikely that it is truly out of stock. I don’t think we’ve ever seen a supply shortage take this long to be resolved.
Similarly, if the G2x was pulled because T-Mobile is waiting for LG to put the finishing touches on the Gingerbread update, this would be the first time a carrier has pulled a phone off the market until it received an Android OS version update.
This leaves us with the most plausible of the rumors; that the G2x was pulled for quality control issues, which we suggested back at the end of May. In our book, this is the most likely of the given rumors, though without official word from T-Mo or LG, it’s anybody’s guess at this point.
Final Word
T-Mobile and LG have been way too quiet on this issue for our liking, and Android and Me feels it’s time for them to come clean as to why this device was pulled in the first place. I think the community will be much more willing to accept the move if they would just come clean rather than continue to harp on about supply shortages.
What say you, readers? Why do you think the G2x was pulled? Should LG and T-Mobile come clean on this?
http://androidandme.com/2011/06/car...s-the-g2x-still-out-of-stock-on-t-mobile-com/
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I agree ..
And another. This update people are waiting on will never be here this month...
If anyone is waiting, listen to me.. July 15th is earliest.

smashpunks said:
I agree ..
And another. This update people are waiting on will never be here this month...
If anyone is waiting, listen to me.. July 15th is earliest.
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yea i agree bro, but bad effin move on their part for real......and the g2x might be gone from tmobiles website but its in every store i seen tmobile corp stores, there kiosks in the mall , walmart,....maybe they didnt run out yet??? idk

Something else to think about, there's been no supply constraints with the O2X and its the same phone with different software.

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yea i agree bro, but bad effin move on their part for real......and the g2x might be gone from tmobiles website but its in every store i seen tmobile corp stores, there kiosks in the mall , walmart,....maybe they didnt run out yet??? idk
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Yep, everywhere around me has plenty in stock......
There fixing issues and releasing gingerbread. Still gonna be a while though....
Just need cm7 to fix their battery and I'm noteven thinking about stock gb.

sarni84 said:
yea i agree bro, but bad effin move on their part for real......and the g2x might be gone from tmobiles website but its in every store i seen tmobile corp stores, there kiosks in the mall , walmart,....maybe they didnt run out yet??? idk
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I went to a big TMO store here in Los Angeles today and they had no G2x's in stock and said they didn't have an ETA on new ones.

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Something else to think about, there's been no supply constraints with the O2X and its the same phone with different software.
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LG should have just offered one universal software version. It's tough enough troubleshooting one let alone two different setups.

An official ICS release. \\This is not news, tips or how-to's.\\

I better get an ice cream sandwich after having to deal with your crap HTC. This device was full of flaws when I bought it. That was inexcusable after paying top dollar for it. Verizon (Ripoff Mobile, Inc.) was too uptight to do anything about it. I would not be surprised if all the official talk was nothing more than hot air in the end. At least developers are working on a version. I am so glad I finally had some time to get root permissions on this phone. Did you feel betrayed after buying your TBolt? To be honest, I would have bought a marked down model if I had of know ahead of time what was going to happen.
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I would have deleted this if the option were available.

why so pissy. My phone was perfect out of teh box, it is faster than any of my friends dual core phones, and I have true unlimited 4g, and why do you care if we get official ics, you will just use a rom anyway, not an ota

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I better get an ice cream sandwich after having to deal with your crap HTC. This device was full of flaws when I bought it. That was inexcusable after paying top dollar for it. Verizon (Ripoff Mobile, Inc.) was too uptight to do anything about it. I would not be surprised if all the official talk was nothing more than hot air in the end. At least developers are working on a version. I am so glad I finally had some time to get root permissions on this phone. Did you feel betrayed after buying your TBolt? To be honest, I would have bought a marked down model if I had of know ahead of time what was going to happen.
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Easy killer. My phone has worked mostly fine since day one. Sure there were some software issues (random reboots due to the LTE radio, GPS, the most annoying), but that is to be expected when you buy bleeding edge technology. This was the first Verizon LTE smartphone, EVER.
That being said, the device is still on par with other top devices today. I haven't upgraded, because I haven't found another device I like that much better than this. The Nexus is nice, but I'm not big on the light flimsy build of those phones, plus samsung is notorious for poor reliability. Motorola screen's have been awful so far, or I would have considered the Razr Maxx.
Bottom line...why don't you cry about it...
BTW, there is nothing special about ICS. Sure it's nice to have the newest thing, but there really isn't that much to get excited about. I still don't understand why honey comb and ICS got rid of the search button. I use that thing constantly.

I have to say I've been 99% happy with this phone since release.
The 1% was the odd rebooting issue I had for 4 weeks in aprilish.
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Honestly I've liked this phone since I first got it, battery life sucked but that was nothing rooting and loading a rom couldn't fix. Other than that I'm still happy with my purchase.
I especially like it cause me and my girlfriend got phones from a good batch, handles low voltages and overclocking even up to 1.8 (not needed though) perfectly.
Thanks to all the developers who have been developing for the thunderbolt since day one, and all that are continuing to do so!
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Bigandrewgold said:
why so pissy. My phone was perfect out of teh box, it is faster than any of my friends dual core phones, and I have true unlimited 4g, and why do you care if we get official ics, you will just use a rom anyway, not an ota
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Let's see.
1. The phone was the Flagship phone for LTE and was released with Froyo.
2. The phone was buggy at release and still shows some issues.
3. Not everyone's phone was "perfect out of teh box". Some of us had to get replacements multiple times to get a *good one*.
4. ICS does have improvements over Froyo and GB.
5. Official OTA release of ICS will allow devs to create much better ROMs for this phone, rather approaching it by piecemealing parts from other Official ROMs.
6. Lastly, this phone was sold at a premium price and VZW's/HTC's support has been lackluster to be kind about it.
Note: I don't know the OP from Adam, but your experience, like mine, is anecdotal and not indicative of all others. VZW screwed the pooch on the roll-out and
HTC screwed the pooch on the releases of updates, support and finally, by rushing the damn thing out the door before it was ready.

sonicanatidae said:
3. Not everyone's phone was "perfect out of teh box". Some of us had to get replacements multiple times to get a *good one*.
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That's with any phone these days. I haven't had a single smartphone I haven't had to replace for one reason or another.
On a side note, the Tbolt isn't the only flagship phone with problems. The Galaxy Nexus has really bad call connectivity problems from what I hear, and that's supposed to be the MAIN function of a PHONE. lolz

All i will buy is htc. I know updates are slow to come. I also dont care. The newest isnt always the best, there are usually a fresh set of bugs to work out. That being said, the devs here and other sites give me enough variety to satisfy me. If you dont like the process, learn to code.
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Mr._Takahashi said:
I better get an ice cream sandwich after having to deal with your crap HTC. This device was full of flaws when I bought it. That was inexcusable after paying top dollar for it. Verizon (Ripoff Mobile, Inc.) was too uptight to do anything about it. I would not be surprised if all the official talk was nothing more than hot air in the end. At least developers are working on a version. I am so glad I finally had some time to get root permissions on this phone. Did you feel betrayed after buying your TBolt? To be honest, I would have bought a marked down model if I had of know ahead of time what was going to happen.
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I'm sure HTC is reading your post right now
If you care, go call them and say what you said directly as it will do far more good for you and for the community.
I moved onto a Nexus, but I still use my Thunderbolt for development testing apps I make. Not even the Nexus is perfect though as the internal antennas are not as powerful at picking up data. My db is usually 10-15db worse than the thunderbolt. However, I would not trade my Nexus for any other phone as I got tired of having to wait on HTC and Verizon for updates on the Thunderbolt.

i just lol at this thread.

Im an HTC fan. I got my tbolt on launch day and have never had an issue (not saying some havent) but I couldn't be happier.
Still have yet to find one phone on the market that has everything the tbolt has (not including dual core, which has not really impressed me) and still think it is a top 4g phone.
I would buy it all over again. We have received everything promised so far & it would be a nightmare for HTC to not give us ICS after they confirmed it...
I also have to say that Verizon did not screw up or delay the launch. There was never an official launch date given from them or HTC until the week before release, as is the norm with their releases. All other dates were made up by the internet and people.
HTC released about 6 updates to the phone between march and September, I think that is pretty good at keeping on top of it..

Jrocker23 said:
Im an HTC fan. I got my tbolt on launch day and have never had an issue (not saying some havent) but I couldn't be happier.
Still have yet to find one phone on the market that has everything the tbolt has (not including dual core, which has not really impressed me) and still think it is a top 4g phone.
I would buy it all over again. We have received everything promised so far & it would be a nightmare for HTC to not give us ICS after they confirmed it...
I also have to say that Verizon did not screw up or delay the launch. There was never an official launch date given from them or HTC until the week before release, as is the norm with their releases. All other dates were made up by the internet and people.
HTC released about 6 updates to the phone between march and September, I think that is pretty good at keeping on top of it..
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Well said. People are never satisfied. I guess they think HTC should put out updates as often as some ROMs get updated...
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I got the TB for $49 bucks new when I dropped T-Mobile. Rooted it the day I got it home and have never had a single problem with it that I cannot blame on bugs in the ROM or me OCing the crap out of it.
Everyones phone is gonna be better or worse than the next guy. Did we get screwed by Verizon??? Show me where in writing the promise a full ICS upgrade and you will see thousands of TB owners lining up to sue the piss off Verizon and HTC.
If you are gonna stay up on the newest devices, Hopefully you are not paying retail for the devices, Shop around and you will be amazed at what you can find.

I have a galaxy nexus just sitting on stand-by cause i've had no problems with my tbolt, besides the dev slowing down i really have no problems with my tbolt and has been my favorite phone. while it would be nice to get ICS soon im not tripping about it, my contract for the thunderbolt ends in december much wait and see what comes out by then.

why is anyone bothering to respond to this guy? He doesn't like his phone, he needs to quit whining about it and get rid of it. No amount of "I love my phone!" posts are going to change his mind. They just bump this useless thread back to the top. Yes, I know I also just bumped this thread.

l7777 said:
why is anyone bothering to respond to this guy? He doesn't like his phone, he needs to quit whining about it and get rid of it. No amount of "I love my phone!" posts are going to change his mind. They just bump this useless thread back to the top. Yes, I know I also just bumped this thread.
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Lol, you did.
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The two people I know with a nexus have had quite a few issues with their phones.. biggest problems being being signal and when leaving WiFi they don't get data until turning their data off and back on... Point is what ever phone you go to there will be something that bugs you about it and the update that fixes your problem will never come out fast enough.. be happy for what you have..
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i never get tired of forum drama, except that it makes me crave ham.

I haven't had a problem since day 1. I got home, rooted it and put liquid smooth on. I've always been one to have a new rom every week but this one's been so good with battery life and everything that I haven't even tried another one. I love this phone. On another note, my brother got the same phone and has had problems. Just like any other electronic item, you might get a dud.