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So I started with the android system on the tilt and tried many different phones and bashed apple, then I tried a iphone 3g and it was so easy to use and everything worked right, then 3ga, then iphone 4, gps, internet, calls aok worked so well, I don't like there whole world domination attitude so I have come back to android, and not much has change, right out of the box my infuse was garbage, worse signal then the iphone 4 which I didn't think was possible, horrible bat, multiple droped calls, gps won't lock to save my life, and phone will freeze from time to time, this is stock! I just don't see how its acceptable for a company to release a phone that barley works as phone, I downloaded infused 2.0.2 and it works SO much better but still bad bat, horrible gps, but in a matter of days deva can make a phone 100% better then the company?i don't get it, maybe they should stop making so many phones and make one that works right, I'm not a fan boy and won't be going back to apple because I hate them as a company, but when I spend money on a phone I would like it to work somewhat, if xda was not here I would not keep this phone..... Anyone else agree or disagree? Any ideas on how to get my phone to work like a phone should without having to update every 3 days, reset, is it ok that samsung is happy pumping phones out that look awesome and suck as mobile devices? I'm not flamming,i just want these phones to work better then apple so they can't sell phones, tv, computers ect....ok enough out of me.
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So I started with the android system on the tilt and tried many different phones and bashed apple, then I tried a iphone 3tv and it was so easy to use and everything worked right, then 3ga, then iphone 4, gps, internet, calls ask worked so well, I don't like there whole world domination attitude so I have come back to android, and not much has change, right out of the box my infuse was garbage, worse signal then the iphone 4 which I didn't think was possible, multiple droped calls, gps won't lock to save my life, and phone will freeze from time to time, this is stock! I just don't see how its acceptable for a company to release a phone that barley works as phone, I downloaded infused
2.0.2 and it works much better but still bad bat, horrible gps, but in a matter of days deva can make a phone 100% better then the company?i don't get it, maybe they should stop making so many phones and make one that works right, I'm not a fan boy and won't be going back to apple because I hate them as a company, but when I spend money on a phone I would like it to work somewhat, if xda was not here I would not keep this phone..... Anyone else agree or disagree? Any ideas on how to get my phone to work like a phone should without having to update every 3 days, reset, is it ok that samsung is happy pumping phones out that look awesome and suck as nubile devices? I'm not flamming,i just want these phones to work better then apple so they can't sell phones, tv, computers ect....ok enough out of me.
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I.have a GPS fix man
Settongs-apps-manage apps-angry.gps- delete data-close-market -GPS status download-run.until locked
Gps.fixed.
Second yes.the.battery drains quick and if your coming from iPhone 4 u will notice it
I love the development here great people
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I.have a GPS fix man
Settongs-apps-manage apps-angry.gps- delete data-close-market -GPS status download-run.until locked
Gps.fixed.
Second yes.the.battery drains quick and if your coming from iPhone 4 u will notice it
I love the development here great people
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I totally agree about this site, its amazing, I think the mobile companies should hire from here.
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my phone signal is ok, wifi signal sux, and yeah android is slow, it runs a lot of java which sux. apple does things different. I would like to see some bootloader and kernel development to run meego instead. I wish there was more app development for meego.
the gps can be improved with a couple settings but should be set that way stock. to be honest my captivate had better gps reception, even with its notorious gps issues, it could track well if you figured out what works. this gps is much more accurate and tracks better but it still has the Samsung quirks and poor reception under cover.
other than the gps my phone ran good stock, I just have a flashing addiction. but I will say it should be better.
Ha! I thought I was alone in actually wanting a modern meego phone...
I beg to differ with you, respectfully. Before I switched to android, I used an iphone 3g, so I have experience with both os's. Honestly, from my experience, the only advantage my sisters iphone 4 has over my Infuse is battery life. And even then, I still get a full day from my infuse, and I'm a heavy texter and data user, so that advantage is negligible...not to mention I can carry extra batteries if I don't have access to a charger for extended periods of time.
I experience no lag whatsoever, so ios doesn't seem any smoother to me. Also, I have my phone customized for maximum functionality for myself. That being said, no, my phone isn't as ready and easy for just anybody to pick up and use compared to an iphone, but the fact that I have it customized how I want it means that it's actually much more streamlined for me than I could make an iphone. To me, if I want the ios experience, I can open up my app drawer. When I had an iphone 3g, I hated only having a grid of apps as the whole gui. Yes, ios may be "smoother" (i disagree because I see no lag) and more intuitive to everybody, but my phone schools ios when it comes to ease of use for just me...and it's my phone, so why do I care if anybody else needs to use it?
Another huge advantage android had for me is widgets. They provide instant information that I would have top launch an app to see if I were using ios. Also, the notification bar is so great, and much better than those damn pop up notifications on ios.
As for service, everywhere I go has at least hspa, and a strong signal at that, so my infuse beats the iphone in that category. When I'm in an hspa+ area, my infuse blows my sisters iphone 4 out of the water in network speeds. In regards to gps, it's unfortunate that yours sucks, but my gps works great, locking within 5-10 seconds within at most 20m. I don't bother to use wifi much, but when I do I have no problems with signal strength.
Also, I love my 4.5 inch screen, and samoled+ technology. After my iphone 3g, I had a captivate, which was a godsend. At 4 inches, I loved the extra space, and the colors/detail of the screen crushed my 3g. Yes, the iphone 4 has amazing resolution, but with that small of a screen I feel it's more of a marketing gimmick. I'll be impressed when phones start having 4.3-4.5" 720p displays, and eventually 1080p in a few years. My infuse is plenty sharp enough, and the extra inch of real estate makes reading much easier on this than my sisters iphone 4. I don't care if I can see a tiny bit of pixelation in my letters, I would rather have them this way and much larger than tiny and super sharp. Also, the samoled+ makes colors unbelievably awesome, and the blacks are unmatched by any lcd hands down.
In regards to build quality, I couldn't be happier with my infuse. Even though it's all plastic besides the screen, the fit and finish of this phone is great. I feel the build quality is great, as my phone is rock solid, no creaking noises whatsoever. Yeah, the glass back of the iphone 4 looks great, but in my eyes isn't practical, as I would cover it up anyways with a case, and I would have two glass surfaces to worry about shattering instead of only one. Granted, metal would be nice, but with a plastic case, the infuse is nice and light for how huge it is, while still retaining the rock solid build quality I want in a phone.
Lastly, I love the openness of android. This dev community provides continual upgrades to my phone, when I was plenty happy with it on stock software. Also, the wide variety of certain apps makes android superior in my eyes. For example, I love having a wide variety of keyboards to use. Also, the numerous launchers available make it so I can have a ton of options when it comes to gui. Yes, ios may have an edge in gaming, but that's what my xbox is for, and I still have the essentials with android, such as angry birds, doodle jump, paper toss, plants vs zombies, etc...not to mention this huge screen makes gaming much easier. Custom themeing is also huge for me. My phone is one of a kind in the looks department...on ios you can pick a background...whoop-dee-doo, you're still stock with stock icons and the icons must fill from top left to bottom right, making every iphone look exactly the same. Also, I can download any file I want, hell, I can even torrent things right on my phone. I also don't have to put up with itunes and its ****ty syncing. I love being able to drag and drop files to and from my phone...much easier and faster. Plus, if I wanted to make playlists and sync stuff, I could use something like doubletwist or spotify. Yeah, syncing is simple for grandpa to understand, but its slow and useless compared to dragging and dropping.
This is just my opinion, I respect that you're entitled to your own, so please respect mine.
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Hey man, its all good this its why I brought it up in here, but I must say you can do ask of that on iphone after jailbreak, and they have such a easy restore, I still can't believe they don't have a one touch restore over here yet, plus you have to root and do custom roms so basically jailbreak, and I have a hard time believing that your gps locks in 5mins, have never seen any infuse do that.
And thanks for the reply and detailed explanation.
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Here's my one second lock within 8meters
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tyshemi said:
Here's my one second lock within 8meters
You also have wifi and decent service, I want my gps to work without any bars....it should be stand alone.
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No wifi on and in my basement.........
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Nice!! Wish mine worked like that!
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Did you do that stuff I told ya
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Did you do that stuff I told ya
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yes just not sure how to change the file, I cleared everything then installer the gps app and got a fix, duff works better, thank you, is it necessary to change the file from first post still?
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Hey man, its all good this its why I brought it up in here, but I must say you can do ask of that on iphone after jailbreak, and they have such a easy restore, I still can't believe they don't have a one touch restore over here yet, plus you have to root and do custom roms so basically jailbreak, and I have a hard time believing that your gps locks in 5mins, have never seen any infuse do that.
And thanks for the reply and detailed explanation.
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Glad we can have a civilized discussion in at least a few parts of the infuse forum, haha. If I had an iphone4, I probably would have jailbroken it and done all that good stuff, seeing as it actually has good specs to work with. I guess I just wasn't into it much when I had my 3g, and I felt that it was too much hassle for not that great of a phone specs-wise. To be perfectly honest, I wanted the iphone 4 when it came out, but my dad wouldn't go for that seeing as I was only a year into my 3g. However, he was all about me getting a new android and learning how to mod it, as he is a software programmer and all of the guys at his job were getting into android. I was originally going to buy a nexus one, but not being able to play with one in a store before I bought it pushed me to the captivate. Now that I'm on android, however, I don't think I'll go back to ios until they throw at least a 4.3" screen with some sort of amoled technology in an iphone, because my biggest beef with iphones is basically the screen. Right now, samsung has my complete loyalty, mostly because of their beautiful screens.
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I agree with the OP.
After a few days of shell shock I have really learned to enjoy the Samsung Infuse 4g. But I would have returned it if I didn't have the Infused 2.0.2 mod. How do casual users actually use it out of the box with quirks like poor GPS, battery performance and occasional app issues? Beats me. Low expectations I guess?
The Infuse hardware is extremely nice but android reminds me of windows mobile on my ole Audiovox PPC-6700 smartphone from 5 years ago. You just gotta play with it to make it work...I guess that's the appeal.
I figure you are either in bed with Apple or Google (I shouldn't leave out Microsoft since my son says his Windows 7 phone is great), so if the new Apple phone comes out with a bigger screen...I'll probably switch back...just need something that works reliabily.
I absolutely love this.phone. I've had no problems what so ever. I def hated stock but only because it would randomly freeze. My sister has iPhone4 and she wishes she had my phone. This phone is great once you do a few tweaks but come on is a pc billy badass right out of the box? ( well sometimes) I just hate the iPhone/apple deal. This phone is America and iPhone is Communist Russia. Haha
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This may seem very obvious, but adjusting the screen brightness will do wonders for your battery, make sure no apps are running in the background hogging up the battery. I also recommend not using a task
Killer or manager. Stock should work just fine.
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I beg to differ with you, respectfully. Before I switched to android, I used an iphone 3g, so I have experience with both os's. Honestly, from my experience, the only advantage my sisters iphone 4 has over my Infuse is battery life. And even then, I still get a full day from my infuse, and I'm a heavy texter and data user, so that advantage is negligible...not to mention I can carry extra batteries if I don't have access to a charger for extended periods of time.
I experience no lag whatsoever, so ios doesn't seem any smoother to me. Also, I have my phone customized for maximum functionality for myself. That being said, no, my phone isn't as ready and easy for just anybody to pick up and use compared to an iphone, but the fact that I have it customized how I want it means that it's actually much more streamlined for me than I could make an iphone. To me, if I want the ios experience, I can open up my app drawer. When I had an iphone 3g, I hated only having a grid of apps as the whole gui. Yes, ios may be "smoother" (i disagree because I see no lag) and more intuitive to everybody, but my phone schools ios when it comes to ease of use for just me...and it's my phone, so why do I care if anybody else needs to use it?
Another huge advantage android had for me is widgets. They provide instant information that I would have top launch an app to see if I were using ios. Also, the notification bar is so great, and much better than those damn pop up notifications on ios.
As for service, everywhere I go has at least hspa, and a strong signal at that, so my infuse beats the iphone in that category. When I'm in an hspa+ area, my infuse blows my sisters iphone 4 out of the water in network speeds. In regards to gps, it's unfortunate that yours sucks, but my gps works great, locking within 5-10 seconds within at most 20m. I don't bother to use wifi much, but when I do I have no problems with signal strength.
Also, I love my 4.5 inch screen, and samoled+ technology. After my iphone 3g, I had a captivate, which was a godsend. At 4 inches, I loved the extra space, and the colors/detail of the screen crushed my 3g. Yes, the iphone 4 has amazing resolution, but with that small of a screen I feel it's more of a marketing gimmick. I'll be impressed when phones start having 4.3-4.5" 720p displays, and eventually 1080p in a few years. My infuse is plenty sharp enough, and the extra inch of real estate makes reading much easier on this than my sisters iphone 4. I don't care if I can see a tiny bit of pixelation in my letters, I would rather have them this way and much larger than tiny and super sharp. Also, the samoled+ makes colors unbelievably awesome, and the blacks are unmatched by any lcd hands down.
In regards to build quality, I couldn't be happier with my infuse. Even though it's all plastic besides the screen, the fit and finish of this phone is great. I feel the build quality is great, as my phone is rock solid, no creaking noises whatsoever. Yeah, the glass back of the iphone 4 looks great, but in my eyes isn't practical, as I would cover it up anyways with a case, and I would have two glass surfaces to worry about shattering instead of only one. Granted, metal would be nice, but with a plastic case, the infuse is nice and light for how huge it is, while still retaining the rock solid build quality I want in a phone.
Lastly, I love the openness of android. This dev community provides continual upgrades to my phone, when I was plenty happy with it on stock software. Also, the wide variety of certain apps makes android superior in my eyes. For example, I love having a wide variety of keyboards to use. Also, the numerous launchers available make it so I can have a ton of options when it comes to gui. Yes, ios may have an edge in gaming, but that's what my xbox is for, and I still have the essentials with android, such as angry birds, doodle jump, paper toss, plants vs zombies, etc...not to mention this huge screen makes gaming much easier. Custom themeing is also huge for me. My phone is one of a kind in the looks department...on ios you can pick a background...whoop-dee-doo, you're still stock with stock icons and the icons must fill from top left to bottom right, making every iphone look exactly the same. Also, I can download any file I want, hell, I can even torrent things right on my phone. I also don't have to put up with itunes and its ****ty syncing. I love being able to drag and drop files to and from my phone...much easier and faster. Plus, if I wanted to make playlists and sync stuff, I could use something like doubletwist or spotify. Yeah, syncing is simple for grandpa to understand, but its slow and useless compared to dragging and dropping.
This is just my opinion, I respect that you're entitled to your own, so please respect mine.
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Very well said.
iruleyounow said:
I absolutely love this.phone. I've had no problems what so ever. I def hated stock but only because it would randomly freeze. My sister has iPhone4 and she wishes she had my phone. This phone is great once you do a few tweaks but come on is a pc billy badass right out of the box? ( well sometimes) I just hate the iPhone/apple deal. This phone is America and iPhone is Communist Russia. Haha
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Could not agree more!
Great post.
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My only beef with the android os is that trying to theme this compared to iOS is awful. There aren't any really good themes for android compared to iOS. Other than that I think android out of the box destroys iOS. I miss themes a little BUT I spent way to much time doing it. I like the fact I can watch HD YouTube videos without another app. I enjoy having flash on my device. I enjoy custom keyboards without an extra add on not to mention launchers. I LOVE my 4.5 inch screen. Anyway just wanted to say I love my infuse.
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I've tried, Debated, installed, formated, reinstalled, reflashed....every different ROM / kernal / radio that I can find on the internet for this phone.
Its a great phone for a user that will NEVER want anything more than a Phone....but......
.....I turned on my INCREDIBLE today and updated it to the latest MIUI and just generally brought it back to current ROM technology and was just amazed...
...so like I said...I gave the Charge a shot, nobody got behind it like I hoped and i'll sell it...use the incredible til I decide on weather or not to get the nexus prime, or I dare say it an iPhone (highly unlikely) but i'm tired of all the fragmentation in the droid world...was WAY WAY WAY better when there were just 5 or 6 "KINGS" out there....
I really don't know what the carriers or device makers are thinking...did apple's success on ONE device not teach the industry anything? Its a better model long term...PICK ONE maybe a few...but jesus...30 phones a year is ridiculous...does nothing besided upset your customers that you captured from a very real competitor....that is dagerous.
I'm still android...I just hope the nexus prime gets a HUGE following....just want a following that my Incredible still seems to have...but it is falling.
Anyway...i'm rambling and frustrated that my year and a half old phone can outperform my 4 month old phone in EVERY category but one 4G, which I can live without.
Haven't made the decision complete yet....but I just don't know what else to do...anybody feel the same?
Definitely feel the same man. Especially with soooooo many phones being released. Quality, not quantity.
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Crazy you did this. I just traded my Charge for the Incredible 2 today to keep as my backup to the galaxy nexus. Charge got pretty pathetic.
Only outperforms because of 4g? Forgotten about our better screen, hdmi out, better camera and better audio chip, have we?
I definitely understand where you're coming from though. I used to have a fascinate which ended up getting all that good aosp stuff and for that reason (along with the form factor) part of me does regret switching the two.
I plan on doing something similar by selling the charge and using an old smartphone (Htc vogue with cm7 b*tch!) before getting the GN.
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Yup same deal. This phone has a nice screen.. thatsit. M wife has my old incredible and I keep it up to date for her. Its so much better. It is the amoled one and it rocks. Ya charge has hdmi out.. when was the last time any of you actually used it for a purpose other than showing it off? Lol.
But why the nexus? Its another samsung ..been dissapointed with all samsungs so far. Who cares about ics . We are flashers we don't care about stock software. Besides.. I like gps's that work.. u know what im talking about.
The htc rezound is what im going for... gonna go back go my htc roots. Like you said.. the incredible has a huge following. Htc sense is bad ass and 3.5 is going to be sense sweetness. Before december there will be an ics rom for it..
Im done with samdung.....
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It would be nice to see something new and refreshed come out for this phone. Seems like most of the dev support we had jumped ship to the bionic.
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I stick with this ****burglar of a phone because Ev-DO is garbage in my area whereas LTE is actually pretty easy to get ahold of. Also, I love having a Wolfson DAC and Voodoo Sound.
I got my buddy onto a DroidInc with CM and he really loves it, but it wouldn't have been the right decision for me. I'm paying Verizon prices for LTE, and it's pretty clear that being forced to tolerate a heaping helping of Samsung's incompetence is collateral damage from that choice.
In a year or whatever when this phone has finally evolved into a seasoned specimen that runs CM properly and is way out of the limelight, it will be seen positively -- people will be quick to recommend it as a solid phone with LTE, a good DAC, and a non-PenTile AMOLED screen that you can pick up on craigslist for about a hundred bucks.
"Just make sure you load CyanogenMod as soon as you get it home," they'll say. "The stock software is really a mess."
It's just too bad that most of us here voluntarily subsidized this flaming leprosy parade for $250+ and a monster contract.
The Charge is only my second Android phone. The Fascinate was my first. Although my experience is only based on Samsung, I still think Samsung offers superb phones and I will continue to buy them. I've played around with other phones. My brother had an old Eris and a buddy had an EVO off Sprint. I like the screens on Samsung better and I like how easy it is to Flash Roms. Its true that official OS releases are slow but I blame Verizon more than Samsung. Maybe I'm just lucky but I haven't had too many issues with my Charge and like it. I've enjoyed the screen, the audio, the physical buttons, and my phone runs pretty fast with lagfix. I have this phone tweaked out pretty good. Yes, it would be nice to have also but can't complain too much how it is running at present. I've experienced virtually none of the problems others report. I haven't had to turn my phone in to Verizon tech or anything .....same phone I got from the get go. I'm not oblivious to some of the complaints. I just don't have any of my own really. I like it although I will be going to the Nexus as soon as it comes out but not based on a dislike of my Charge. I just like to upgrade every year.
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I like the screens on Samsung better and I like how easy it is to Flash Roms.
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Yes screens on sammys are awesome. But easy to flash roms? No.its not hard I guess.. but compared to other phones its a *****.
Take the dinc for isntance. All roms flashes through rom manager. You have 50+ roms all instantly available to you. With the push of a single button you can load a new rom... don't like it and want your old one back? No problem push another button and go right back to what you were just running
Hell you could have a differrent rom for every day of the week if you wanted. Do a little playing with the other heavy hitting smartphones. Real playing .. buy one.. own it. Use it as your own. And you will agree.
The sole reason I got the samsung was so I could have first hand experience with one. I like to know about everything out there based on my own opinions and not others. I had friends with samsungs.. the captivate and the fascinate and one with the infuse. So I got the charge to see what the fuss was about.
The result of 6 months of ownership? Nice screen... the rest is **** tho
I've tried and tried to like it.. if there weren't so many other phones that were better, it would be a fantastic phone..
Samsung has disappointed me with their android devices. Just google "samsung gps problems". If your phone doesn't lock in <5 sec inside your house using standalone gps accurate to 3 feet.. why not? The other phones on the market do. Hell this one has actually locked on my position.. accurate to 10 feet.. and been moving with me down the road.. the only problem was it had me 500 miles away.. how is that even possible lol.
Ya.. this will be the last samsung phone I own. Will only own samsung tvs tho
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people will be quick to recommend it as a solid phone with LTE, a good DAC, and a non-PenTile AMOLED screen that you can pick up on craigslist for about a hundred bucks
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The nexus has a pentile screen...
http://www.onlykent.com/20111021/samsung-galaxy-nexus-display-is-pentile-disappointed-dont-be/
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The nexus has a pentile screen...
http://www.onlykent.com/20111021/samsung-galaxy-nexus-display-is-pentile-disappointed-dont-be/
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He's talking about the charge. No pentile here, folks.
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The nexus has a pentile screen...
http://www.onlykent.com/20111021/samsung-galaxy-nexus-display-is-pentile-disappointed-dont-be/
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He was referring to Super AMOLED Plus. And yes, Nexus has pentile, but from the reports that I've read, higher resolution at 720p seems to cover that up.
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He was referring to Super AMOLED Plus. And yes, Nexus has pentile, but from the reports that I've read, higher resolution at 720p seems to cover that up.
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You can't see a sub pixel arranment when there's more subpixels per inch than the human eye can detect. People who are fussing about it are retarded
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I simply noted it because he specifically refered to it while also saying the prime would be his next choice. I saw contradiction and called it.
I think people are blinded by ics. The hardware is crap in comparison to others.
Take a read here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284463&page=27
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Yeah the screen on the Galaxy Nexus is going to be completely fine, I was referring to the Droid Charge's non-PenTile as a perk compared to other similiarly-valued Verizon devices -- specifically, the Bionic, the X2, the Fascinate, and the first-revision DroidInc.
I have the sneaking suspicion that once the Galaxy Nexus hits you're going to be able to buy secondhand Bionics, Charges, and Thunderbolts for pretty equivalent low prices. The GN looks killer, but its existence isn't going to retroactively remove lovely hardware features (S-AMOLED+, Voodoo Sound) from the Charge. And the Charge certainly sucks now, but it's only going to get better with time.
Funny how the people who pay the highest prices get the ****tiest experience, and the ones who saunter in a year late after the wonderful development community has beaten the phone into something usable get the best experience for the lowest price.
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Funny how the people who pay the highest prices get the ****tiest experience, and the ones who saunter in a year late after the wonderful development community has beaten the phone into something usable get the best experience for the lowest price.
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That's what we get for being early adopters lol.
My phone "isn't charging very well" and I have a new one being mailed to me. So now my ebay listing will be for a "new droid charge" instead of a used one. Should pull 500 easy. Plenty to buy a rezound or prime off contract
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My phone "isn't charging very well" and I have a new one being mailed to me. So now my ebay listing will be for a "new droid charge" instead of a used one. Should pull 500 easy.
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That's adorable that you think that. You'll get $250 tops.
The **** is a sunk cost, bros.
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I simply noted it because he specifically refered to it while also saying the prime would be his next choice. I saw contradiction and called it.
I think people are blinded by ics. The hardware is crap in comparison to others.
Take a read here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284463&page=27
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Hardware is crap? Lololol.
So people are disappointed it's not a quad core phone with an 8mp camera, no sd card slot, no Exynos chip, and no keyboard(Wtf?). Seriously, the specs on the Galaxy Nexus are top notch. People just complain because it's not what they dreamed of.
Let's break it down.
-Galaxy Nexus has a 5mp camera. "o noes! No super high rez 8mp shooter!!!11! " Megapixels don't mean much. Example: the iPhone 4's and Galaxy S' 5mp cameras destroyed the Droid X's and Evo's 8mp camera. What mainly matters is the sensor.
-It has a TI OMAP 4460(I think) processor with an overclocked gpu. Almost no apps on the Market are optimized for multiple core processors. Up until recently, even our OS didn't take advantage of them. I think this is plenty.
-HD Super Amoled is pentile. Big whoop. With that pixel density, no one will notice. Let's see, what would you prefer? An HD Super Amoled screen or a slightly inferior S-LCD HD screen? Both will most likely have similar pixel densities.
-No SD card slot. How many times do you remove your SD card? I thought so.
-It has a barometer. Why? To get even more accurate GPS readings.
The only thing I hope for is that it has a great DAC like the Galaxy S and Droid Charge.
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That's adorable that you think that. You'll get $250 tops.
The **** is a sunk cost, bros.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Box-Sam...0626667809?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item4cfae29521
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Hardware is crap? Lololol.
So people are disappointed it's not a quad core phone with an 8mp camera, no sd card slot, no Exynos chip, and no keyboard(Wtf?). Seriously, the specs on the Galaxy Nexus are top notch. People just complain because it's not what they dreamed of.
Let's break it down.
-Galaxy Nexus has a 5mp camera. "o noes! No super high rez 8mp shooter!!!11! " Megapixels don't mean much. Example: the iPhone 4's and Galaxy S' 5mp cameras destroyed the Droid X's and Evo's 8mp camera. What mainly matters is the sensor.
-It has a TI OMAP 4460(I think) processor with an overclocked gpu. Almost no apps on the Market are optimized for multiple core processors. Up until recently, even our OS didn't take advantage of them. I think this is plenty.
-HD Super Amoled is pentile. Big whoop. With that pixel density, no one will notice. Let's see, what would you prefer? An HD Super Amoled screen or a slightly inferior S-LCD HD screen? Both will most likely have similar pixel densities.
-No SD card slot. How many times do you remove your SD card? I thought so.
-It has a barometer. Why? To get even more accurate GPS readings.
The only thing I hope for is that it has a great DAC like the Galaxy S and Droid Charge.
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If it was an htc phone with the same specs id be on it.
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I got my hand on Sprint Iphone 4s, and tried couple of things out, and G2x faster in most of web browsing, (Iphone 4s favor in nfl.com, apple.com, buy.com...). Only game I tested is Angry Birds, and G2x a few sec ahead. Why people overrated Retina display when the color is not as good as IPS? Also with the resolution that high make some game have blury looking, but when browsing internet the text look awesome, unbeatable.
Really not fare to compare an overclocked phone with stock phone, oh well, just for fun and made up a reason not to upgrade a new phone
G2x @ 1.4Ghz, Nightly 201, Faux CM 0.4.4, Opera is the main browser use for test.
Iphone 4s, stock browser (Safari), FW 5.0.0.
All test over wifi.
the 4s is not bad and the only thing i think apple products have is the fact that they get all thier needed updates always. The 4s had the same ios as the 3gs. I really wish Google would force this with our phones too!
I really want to see how much more power is inside this G2x but because we dont have ICS yet, I will have to wait!
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the 4s is not bad and the only thing i think apple products have is the fact that they get all thier needed updates always. The 4s had the same ios as the 3gs. I really wish Google would force this with our phones too!
I really want to see how much more power is inside this G2x but because we dont have ICS yet, I will have to wait!
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the reason for google not having updates for every single android phone while apple does is simple:
Apple only has to worry about a handful of unique phone models while android has many more, each with different hardware which makes writing firmware updates difficult since they have to be tailored to way too many phone models.
therefore, in the android world it's easier for companies to make money by releasing a new android phone rather than updating old ones.
G2X is king of performance. Of course it will beat iphone 4s, maybe iphone 5 will finally catch up.
My G2X beats my buddys tmobile sgs2 in everything except internet speeds. In gaming is where the difference is most noticeable, but even in simply scrolling through pages my G2X is the smoothest phone I've ever played with (and I play with about every new high end tmobile phone, and anything Best Buy puts out a live model of).
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G2X is king of performance. Of course it will beat iphone 4s, maybe iphone 5 will finally catch up.
My G2X beats my buddys tmobile sgs2 in everything except internet speeds. In gaming is where the difference is most noticeable, but even in simply scrolling through pages my G2X is the smoothest phone I've ever played with (and I play with about every new high end tmobile phone, and anything Best Buy puts out a live model of).
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Well in all fairness, TMO's SGSII is terrible compared to the Exynos versions. The S3 processor in that is probably the weakest out of all of the dual cores. But the G2x doesn't even hold a candle to the real SGSII's which have the Exynos processor and the all powerful Mali-400 GPU.
With that said... I still love my G2x.
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the reason for google not having updates for every single android phone while apple does is simple:
Apple only has to worry about a handful of unique phone models while android has many more, each with different hardware which makes writing firmware updates difficult since they have to be tailored to way too many phone models.
therefore, in the android world it's easier for companies to make money by releasing a new android phone rather than updating old ones.
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Well still, there are a lot of different phones and hardware but that's no excuse to keep our systems behind the curb. They release the source and should require companies to enforce updates.
Apple has more control of its hardware and software.
Like I said they do a great job keeping their stuff up to date. Even the older 3gs.
I love my g2x just tired of waiting for an update and using in official roms that all seem to have issues.
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Well still, there are a lot of different phones and hardware but that's no excuse to keep our systems behind the curb. They release the source and should require companies to enforce updates.
Apple has more control of its hardware and software.
Like I said they do a great job keeping their stuff up to date. Even the older 3gs.
I love my g2x just tired of waiting for an update and using in official roms that all seem to have issues.
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you basically repeated what i said...
you're right its no excuse but android depends on the developer community due to its very nature that it is open source. Also since phone companies are able to make more money by marketing new phones, they do that instead
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I got my hand on Sprint Iphone 4s, and tried couple of things out, and G2x faster in most of web browsing, (Iphone 4s favor in nfl.com, apple.com, buy.com...). Only game I tested is Angry Birds, and G2x a few sec ahead. Why people overrated Retina display when the color is not as good as IPS? Also with the resolution that high make some game have blury looking, but when browsing internet the text look awesome, unbeatable.
Really not fare to compare an overclocked phone with stock phone, oh well, just for fun and made up a reason not to upgrade a new phone
G2x @ 1.4Ghz, Nightly 201, Faux CM 0.4.4, Opera is the main browser use for test.
Iphone 4s, stock browser (Safari), FW 5.0.0.
All test over wifi.
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What program do you use to overclock and what are your settings I can't find the settings for overclock apps on g2x
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I just had a chance to play with iphone 4s then sold it for more money and bought a used G2X. Apple stuff is defintely better there is no way around it but its definitively not as cost effective when comparing to g2x
jetbruceli said:
Well still, there are a lot of different phones and hardware but that's no excuse to keep our systems behind the curb. They release the source and should require companies to enforce updates.
Apple has more control of its hardware and software.
Like I said they do a great job keeping their stuff up to date. Even the older 3gs.
I love my g2x just tired of waiting for an update and using in official roms that all seem to have issues.
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Enforce updates are definitely the key words. I'm surprised no one has opened lawsuits about phones with security flaws not being patched by the carrier/manufacturer, etc. I hope in the future the carriers and manufacturers will take updates a little more seriously, or maybe the pure android and manufacturers' code can be updated independently of each other. You may say I'm a dreamer...
95Z28 said:
G2X is king of performance. Of course it will beat iphone 4s, maybe iphone 5 will finally catch up.
My G2X beats my buddys tmobile sgs2 in everything except internet speeds. In gaming is where the difference is most noticeable, but even in simply scrolling through pages my G2X is the smoothest phone I've ever played with (and I play with about every new high end tmobile phone, and anything Best Buy puts out a live model of).
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I disagree here, the tegra 2 is at the bottom of dual core phones when it comes to memory bandwidth with only 2.4GB/s. The S3, isn't much higher above it at 2.7GB/s. Both of those SOC's are way behind the likes of the Omap 4460, Exynos 4210, and the A5 which all have 6.4GB/s. So I'd hardly call anything with a tegra 2 powering it the king of performance.
asuradaMobile said:
I just had a chance to play with iphone 4s then sold it for more money and bought a used G2X. Apple stuff is defintely better there is no way around it but its definitively not as cost effective when comparing to g2x
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smart guy
Just busted out the g2x while trying to raise funds for galaxy nexus, I do miss this phone. G2X is smooth and faster than the sensation I just sold.
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What program do you use to overclock and what are your settings I can't find the settings for overclock apps on g2x
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using Set CPU. you can find it for free in xda.
Longevite said:
I got my hand on Sprint Iphone 4s, and tried couple of things out, and G2x faster in most of web browsing, (Iphone 4s favor in nfl.com, apple.com, buy.com...). Only game I tested is Angry Birds, and G2x a few sec ahead. Why people overrated Retina display when the color is not as good as IPS? Also with the resolution that high make some game have blury looking, but when browsing internet the text look awesome, unbeatable.
Really not fare to compare an overclocked phone with stock phone, oh well, just for fun and made up a reason not to upgrade a new phone
G2x @ 1.4Ghz, Nightly 201, Faux CM 0.4.4, Opera is the main browser use for test.
Iphone 4s, stock browser (Safari), FW 5.0.0.
All test over wifi.
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The Retina Display in the iPhone 4/4s uses IPS technology, the iPod Touch 4G is the only one that doesn't use IPS.
And I completely disagree, the A5 is much better than the Tegra 2, processor wise they are almost identical (note: Tegra 2 does not support NEON), but GPU wise it's really no comparison, I still like the G2x better though.
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using Set CPU. you can find it for free in xda.
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im sorry i should have put it better do you guys use SetCPU or Tegrak but im using SetCPU I was just wondering if I overclock it to 1.5 should I change the voltage and if so to what settings.
asuradaMobile said:
I just had a chance to play with iphone 4s then sold it for more money and bought a used G2X. Apple stuff is defintely better there is no way around it but its definitively not as cost effective when comparing to g2x
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Lets put it this way... I wouldn't make the G2X an ambassador for Android phones. I had an iPhone4 but had to get rid of it when I changed carriers because Wind Mobile doesn't support any of the frequency's that the iPhone4 supports. The iPhone4 (or now the 4S) both kill the G2X! even though the 4 is not dual core. The retina display kills all of the Android phones that i have seen with its superior clarity. Only phone that I havent tested is the Galaxy Nexus, Can someone confirm if retina display is better or Galaxy Nexsus screen?.
If u try zooming in on a picture like X5 the iPhone4 will keep the picture crystal clean. U even start noticing hairs on ppls bodies lol. G2X screen on the other had gets blurry & blocky almost instantly.
As for web browsing on 3G... Iphone4 opens larger web pages (pages with ots of pictures or galleries for example) way faster than the G2X, but on wifi both phones are fast. I would love to be able to hack an iPhone 4 & install ICS on it.
Just sharing my experiences of both phones w u guys
Dave778 said:
Lets put it this way... I wouldn't make the G2X an ambassador for Android phones. I had an iPhone4 but had to get rid of it when I changed carriers because Wind Mobile doesn't support any of the frequency's that the iPhone4 supports. The iPhone4 (or now the 4S) both kill the G2X! even though the 4 is not dual core. The retina display kills all of the Android phones that i have seen with its superior clarity. Only phone that I havent tested is the Galaxy Nexus, Can someone confirm if retina display is better or Galaxy Nexsus screen?.
If u try zooming in on a picture like X5 the iPhone4 will keep the picture crystal clean. U even start noticing hairs on ppls bodies lol. G2X screen on the other had gets blurry & blocky almost instantly.
As for web browsing on 3G... Iphone4 opens larger web pages (pages with ots of pictures or galleries for example) way faster than the G2X, but on wifi both phones are fast. I would love to be able to hack an iPhone 4 & install ICS on it.
Just sharing my experiences of both phones w u guys
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Try to run Angry Birds on Iphone 4/4s and see how "clear" it look, I didn't mean retina display is bad, I just saying some games don't support that high res, and make the game look blurry, but Infinity Blade look bad ass on Retina, I never seen any game on mobile look that good.
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using Set CPU. you can find it for free in xda.
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What kernel are you using? I have SetCPU but the CM7 kernel doesn't support overclocking.
EEngineer said:
What kernel are you using? I have SetCPU but the CM7 kernel doesn't support overclocking.
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Using Faux Kernel, you can download the lastest verson at rootzwiki
Traded my phone for a mint iPhone 4S. Pretty happy about it. At least if i want to come back, i can always use my note!
Been a good run but Its time to go. Thanks to Jim, JRW and lfaber for all your hard work!! Others too I'm sure!
Ciao!!
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Atrix 2 for a mint iphone 4s? I'm guessing it wasn't a straight trade, right?
holeshot77 said:
Traded my phone for a mint iPhone 4S. Pretty happy about it. At least if i want to come back, i can always use my note!
Been a good run but Its time to go. Thanks to Jim, JRW and lfaber for all your hard work!! Others too I'm sure!
Ciao!!
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Well good luck, my wife has one and loves it.
Me on the otherhand not so much. Even with the problems, the A2 seems better.
Hope you like it.
I expect to see you back when you feel the need to flash something!
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I would go back to a dumb phone before I'd use an apple product. maybe even chop off a hand.
Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. Good luck finishing with a device you really enjoy!
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cogeary said:
Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. Good luck finishing with a device you really enjoy!
Sad to see an Android user go
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no it's a fact I would chop off my hand first seriously you're right everyone is entitled to their own choice. I just have a deep seated distaste for apple.
mtnlion said:
I just have a deep seated distaste for apple.
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LOL Same Here
Me too but if I could trade my phone for a 4s I would do it in a heartbeat. Then sell it and buy a gs ii.
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I personally love the Atrix 2. I might be lucky but I've had absolutely no problems with it.
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LOL Same Here
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As do I. I compare apple to a tricycle and android to a Ducati. Google it.
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unsivil_audio said:
Me too but if I could trade my phone for a 4s I would do it in a heartbeat. Then sell it and buy a gs ii.
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Exactly lol I love the galaxy s2 nom nom s apples 800 megabytes ram
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cryhavok13 said:
As do I. I compare apple to a tricycle and android to a Ducati. Google it.
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Haha ^ nice example
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To each their own... I cant stand IOS or Webtop. Compare any of the three and the functionality of android makes it a clear winner on any decent device! Imo, Not trying to start a war or anything.
My wife loves her 4s but I'm loving the a2 especially when rooted.
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My wife loves her 4s but I'm loving the a2 especially when rooted.
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hehe another PC vs MAC thing If you are boring and carefree then go with iphone but if you want a personalized and unique device then stick with the A2 but the OP is gone and i don't think he will come back to take a look at his post hehehe. Besides our signal bars are not jacked up lmao.
This has nothing to do with PC versus Mac, this has to do with locked vs unlocked hardware. i will be boycotting Motorola in the future, this is my first Moto smartphone and the experience has been less than desirable. It's another case of great hardware ruined by being severely limited/crippled by the manufacturer. Samsung, LG, or HTC for me in the future.
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This has nothing to do with PC versus Mac, this has to do with locked vs unlocked hardware. i will be boycotting Motorola in the future, this is my first Moto smartphone and the experience has been less than desirable. It's another case of great hardware ruined by being severely limited/crippled by the manufacturer. Samsung, LG, or HTC for me in the future.
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yeah our HTC liberty's were so much easier to hack.
someone traded you a i4s for an a2?
Sell the i4s and buy a GSM Galaxy Nexus. Destroys both phones
Good luck in IOS jail
I sincerely wish you luck with an idevice. I was talked into trying the IP4, and knowing that I could easily sell it for enough dough to pickup some android goodness, I gave it a good, honest try. I fought for almost 6mos trying to make it fit. There were things that were nice, like the *screen*, battery life, speed, and camera.
I even jailbroke that puppy and actually had it part-way there. Unfortunately, the IOS ecosystem is so restrictive (though admittedly slowly getting better) that I wound up bashing my head against stupid, arbitrary limitations. At first, the little annoyances seem minor and tolerable. afterall, this is a pretty solid device, right? so what if you can't quite do x, y, or z. There are 'workarounds' and such, but then you realize that hitting the same little issues every single day starts to grate on you, and many of the 'workarounds' are half-ass (backgrounding apps just kills battery life, for eg.).
While IOS is well optimized for the hardware, and they really get all the speed they can out of it, the GUI also employs tricks to make it *feel* fast (smooth is a better word). Those smooth transitions are so smooth because they are slow, and the GUI will pre-load elements even before they are ready for touch input. Once I got to know IOS, I found I was tapping on freshly loaded GUI 'buttons' that ignored my input for a second or so. lame. Also, the 'polished' feel of IOS apps is almost purely illusory, as they crash frequently when 'unfrozen' (they don't get to run in the background). IOS just makes the crash look really pretty as the app disappears for just a moment and then restarts itself never telling you what actually happened. Android is just being honest when it reports an app crashed.
If yer on a tiered data plan, get ready for the hate. despite all the bull**** claims, IOS uses *far* more data than android. I could rarely stay under 200MB/mo on my IP4 despite having no widgets and only doing email and a bit of web browsing. I rarely go over 80MB in a month now that I'm on the atrix2.
A friend of mine who switched from the IP3G to the SGSII is thankful he didn't get the IP4s. He reports that his wife's IP4s seems sluggish and apps crash alot.
The iDevices can be alluring, and it might be worth trying, but just make sure you have a back-out plan. You may not even fully realize the pit yer in until months later.
I love how it I sent even on our level and its a new phone
Samsung innovates.... apple immitates .
Anyway.... what are your opinions on the madder
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Apple doesn't imitate. Gotta correct you on that. There's nothing out there like the iPhone aesthetically. This is one of the reasons so many sheep buy it. The thing looks sleek and elegant and the only other manufacturers that come close in build quality is Nokia and HTC. I personally think its an awesome phone. Its Apple themselves as a company and iOS where everything goes downhill. I would buy an iPhone if I could slap Jelly Bean on it.
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Complete disappointment. I'm not an applefone fan but I thought they would come out strong with something innovative. Its just a lewd attempt to draw revenue IMO. The sgs3 kicks its ass. The sgs2 is still a competitor.
TBH I'm sick and tired of every new Android phone released being compared to the IPhone. All people are doing are giving the damn thing more publicity than it already has. The reason the iPhone sells so much is because humans always want more of the same. A tried and true formula if you will. Look at Call of Duty. Millions buy it every year because it maintains the same formula. Add a little here and there and viola. Everyone buys it because its the "thing to have". We here on XDA are the minority. We care about things that your average joe could careless about. They don't even care for the technical specifications. All they know is that there's a new iPhone out with a bigger screen. Simple people like simple things. Apple knows how to capitalize on this. Its sales 101. You never talk about the product itself but the benefits you would gain from it.
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I think people should be more open minded and accept that other people can have a difference of opinion. Some people aren't as technically inclined as many users here on XDA and like their phone to be simple and work. Yes android is more powerful and has more customization options but some people don't want to get all worked up about their phones. They just want to use them and not worry about spending hours working on them.
I personally don't have giant hands and having to readjust my grip to press the screen can get annoying. I have an ipod touch 4g and it fits perfectly in my hand. Plus the retina screen is beautiful to look at. I want to see it on the iphone 5 which would look even better.
I love my gs2 and android but that doesn't give me the right to call other human beings sheeps just because of the type of phone they're using. I just let them do what they do and mind my own business.
It's a stupid thing to think less of someone just because of the type of phone they're using. Stuff like that is similar to what leads to racism.
bkaltec said:
Complete disappointment. I'm not an applefone fan but I thought they would come out strong with something innovative. Its just a lewd attempt to draw revenue IMO. The sgs3 kicks its ass. The sgs2 is still a competitor.
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My exact feelings. I expected it to have something we've never seen before...
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My exact feelings. I expected it to have something we've never seen before...
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Like what?? You want it to make you coffee??? Let me turn the tables and use your own expectations against you. What are you expecting from the GS4 other than a better CPU, more ram, better camera, and new OS?? Coz that's exactly what what was upgraded in the iPhone... let's be real here people. If you're going to judge the thing atleast judge it fairly. Like I said my only gripe against the iPhone is iOS and its limitations. If someone were to somehow port android to an iPhone 5 I'd probably be all over it. The truth of the matter is the iPhone 5 has more changes and improvements when compared to the iPhone 4s than the changes that were made between the GSIII and GSII. Let's all be real here. We don't hate the iPhone. We hate Apple themselves, their business practices and their followers.
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I myself love the iPhone especially now that the damn thing has a bigger screen 4" is perfect, maybe 4.3" but anything larger would kill its look.
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