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I am done with Sense 2.5

I am done with Sense 2.5 or for that matter, TF3D.
Attached screenshots show what my today screen looks like.
in case you miss it, the 43% memory usage is a big reason to jump ship.

chiks19018 said:
I am done with Sense 2.5 or for that matter, TF3D.
Attached screenshots show what my today screen looks like.
in case you miss it, the 43% memory usage is a big reason to jump ship.
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look-up elecont launcher. its pretty cool if your not gonna use manila3d. i use to use it on my incite and loved it.

leemoss84 said:
look-up elecont launcher. its pretty cool if your not gonna use manila3d. i use to use it on my incite and loved it.
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I am using the "easy today launcher" to put the icons on the today screen.
This launcher is as easy it can get.
Easy Today Launcher

chiks19018 said:
I am using the "easy today launcher" to put the icons on the today screen.
This launcher is as easy it can get.
Easy Today Launcher
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elecont launcher does the same thing but lets you scroll from left to right and it will let you have up to 4 or 5 lines of apps. its like 3 bucks but you can try it out for free for like a couple weeks.

chiks19018 said:
I am done with Sense 2.5 or for that matter, TF3D.
Attached screenshots show what my today screen looks like.
in case you miss it, the 43% memory usage is a big reason to jump ship.
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I'm currently running Sense 2.5 and got 57% memory usage. Now what's the problem? What are you doing with your memory if you aren't using it? btw I never got an out of memory error or anything like that.

I used TD2 Tools to disable Push Internet engine and Resource Proxy and I get 43% memory usage while still using Manila after a fresh bootup or cleanRAM level 3... though it's Manila 2.1 not 2.5.

lol....great over reaction!
You're using less than half the available RAM and you're complaining? I have 75MB of free RAM and I can do everything I need to.
No point in having RAM if you're not going to use it imho.
Really don't understand what you're grumping about?

That's my point too. Not used RAM is wasted RAM.
PMoto

I don't necessarily agree. I have tried Sense 2.5 and my battery life became very short. Using RAM reduces your battery life which, lets face it, is not that good with a TD2. I found Sense 2.5 buggy and slow too. I prefer TESS 2.F which has Manila 2.0. This gives me 43% used ram on start up and it then stabilises to about 55% over the course of a few days. It is very stable too. Who needs the weather on their home screen anyway - you can look out of the window

Well, the fact is that TD2 is a wonderfull phone, and each and everyone is capable of doing his own costumization, and make it feel personal.
Sharing it with other, is all that we want, right? LOL
PMoto

I think the point is that more free RAM = more RAM to run memory intensive programs and more RAM to run more programs simultaneously without running into stability problems. If all you ever have is have one program open at any time then that's fine, you don't need 105Mb free memory.
Obviously to each his own. Some want all the snazzy eye candy and cool features and don't mind having less headroom. Some prefer having more ram to stretch about in. No problem with either as long as you're happy with it!

nighthawk1982 said:
I think the point is that more free RAM = more RAM to run memory intensive programs and more RAM to run more programs simultaneously without running into stability problems. If all you ever have is have one program open at any time then that's fine, you don't need 105Mb free memory.
Obviously to each his own. Some want all the snazzy eye candy and cool features and don't mind having less headroom. Some prefer having more ram to stretch about in. No problem with either as long as you're happy with it!
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well said nighthawk. do what you want!!!

A lot of us jumped ship a long time ago!
I've been running Titanium on Clean WM 6.5.x ROMs for a while now and never looked back. Having the extra storage space is a bonus but it's the free recources that makes it that much better. Everything runs that much faster and the latest builds of WM are really getting good.
Each to their own i say, but to make an informed choice i would recommend trying all the alternatives for yourself!

mitsi said:
I don't necessarily agree. I have tried Sense 2.5 and my battery life became very short. Using RAM reduces your battery life which, lets face it, is not that good with a TD2. I found Sense 2.5 buggy and slow too. I prefer TESS 2.F which has Manila 2.0. This gives me 43% used ram on start up and it then stabilises to about 55% over the course of a few days. It is very stable too. Who needs the weather on their home screen anyway - you can look out of the window
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Actually it depends on which ROM you have flashed. There's different version of Sense 2.5 floating around. I think the version they got from HD2 is running quite slow on Topaz. But there's another version I'm not sure but I think they got it from a Touch pro 2 (some carrier released it with Sense 2.5) and this one is running really smooth on our TD2 as well. i also can't complain about any battery life issues and with the current Sense 2.5 ROM I never had any SODs (which I sometimes had with the clean Titanium ROMs)
DirkGently1 said:
I've been running Titanium on Clean WM 6.5.x ROMs for a while now and never looked back. Having the extra storage space is a bonus but it's the free recources that makes it that much better. Everything runs that much faster and the latest builds of WM are really getting good.
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Well, I first had the stock ROM for a while with Manila 2.0 running on it. Then when 6.5 came out I switched to custom Titanium ROMs. Recently I switched to Sense 2.5 and with the ROM I'm running it's A LOT faster and running more smoothy compared to the clean 6.5 Titanium ROMs I used before.
Like someone said before it's really up to everyone's own taste but I don't think you can generally say "Sense 2.5 sucks it's so slow and buggy". To be honest I thought this before as well but since running my own 2.5 I got prooved otherwise.

The rom below is running sweet. It's 2.1, but it's as responsive as I've ever had.
Running at 52%, last rebooted about a week ago. I charge overnight by my bed.

My RAM usage shows 43% right now with Sense 2.1 running (Stock ROM), with SPB Mobile Shell 3.5.3 running it's like 46%. No difference in performance at all, very smooth..

nighthawk1982 said:
I think the point is that more free RAM = more RAM to run memory intensive programs and more RAM to run more programs simultaneously without running into stability problems. If all you ever have is have one program open at any time then that's fine, you don't need 105Mb free memory.
Obviously to each his own. Some want all the snazzy eye candy and cool features and don't mind having less headroom. Some prefer having more ram to stretch about in. No problem with either as long as you're happy with it!
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+1
that is what I want. Thanks.

RAMMANN said:
Like someone said before it's really up to everyone's own taste but I don't think you can generally say "Sense 2.5 sucks it's so slow and buggy". To be honest I thought this before as well but since running my own 2.5 I got prooved otherwise.
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Sense 2.5 is not buggy for me. That was not the problem at all.
But if I had Opera10 open and then i open one more application, it would show the spinning wheel if I say went to the album or some other RAM intensive program.
On top of that, Sense2.5 is a big waste of real estate. The home screen would show time on the main bar, then again on the sense, plus another bar to show program name. wtf.
I would switch to prideIV, but i like the idea of having the new htc messaging (i know it sucks) as it allows attaching media easily and has a good threaded messaging screen.
Now I have my appointments on the home screen, the time, my fav icons and a search bar too.

chiks19018 said:
I would switch to prideIV, but i like the idea of having the new htc messaging (i know it sucks) as it allows attaching media easily and has a good threaded messaging screen.
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Hey, have you tried having Pride IV with NRGZ' Messaging app? It should work...

~20% battery usage after 8 and half hour
I cooked my own ROM based off the 2.53 kitchen posted in the ROM forum. Removed a few apps and added some. My phone is on for last 8 and a half hour with 2G internet and Push mail on. There have been quite a few emails that have come and I have checked in this time. There have been Connective Tools Alarm that ran for about 15 mins. And the Battery consumption is close to 20%. Going by this, I can charge my phone on alternate days.. And it has Sense 2.5 (without of course the Footprint, Documents. I have the eReader cooked in as well). I see my RAM consumption at 46% at start up and peaks around 65% but mostly stays at less than 60% (Showcase cooked in).
Radio version: 4.49.25.91 (I had drains with other radios)
OS: 21887...
[Add] not to mention the super fast the ROM is at 14MB page pool..

Poor interface performance

Maybe i am wrong but it looks like there is something weird with 2d/interface performance of my Sensation.
Currently i am running latest Hypersensation with latest Faux's kernel (ADW Launcher) and i have tested a lot of other ROMs and launchers..but on all of them i am getting nonsmooth interface. Kinda laggy.
I mean, in sense, everything is fine (in the meaning of that word, not supersmooth but fine), but when i try Zeam launcher's drawer (with 6x6 grid) which is superlightweight it gets laggy. In ADW (6x4) it's laggy too. In Go Launcher not too much but i am still not happy. And it's the same with Launcher Pro.
And effected homescreen - switching is not smooth at all. I even tried overclocking my cpu, but it didn't help.
Before some time, by sensation has fallen on the floor by left down corner (and now i have deep scratch on the external casing) - could it damage by cpu in any way? I hope not
I am getting scroll lags in some apps (twicca), new twitter app (released today) is laggy as hell (when pulling to refresh, to be accurate) and new facebook.
However in games it's fine and i am getting around 12000 native cf-bench score with overclocked (1,5 Ghz) CPU, so this is indicating that there is no damage to CPU.
Maybe i am too demanding, but this performance in ui (which you are using most of the time on phone) is not what i expect from 1,2 Ghz DC phone.
Is anybody out there experiencing similar issues? Anyway to fix them? Thanks in advance, guys!
I have attached twitter video...30 fps via screen recorder high quality settings:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_mnEz9tl3E

I suggest using a Sense rom, they tend to have better performance, but switching launchers. The guy who makes HyperSensation also has a no sense rom, try it out, it's really fast and smooth. As for ADW, get ADW Launcher EX, ADW just plain sucks, but EX is very fast.
Before some time, by sensation has fallen on the floor by left down corner (and now i have deep scratch on the external casing) - could it damage by cpu in any way? I hope not
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As long as it's still running, I doubt it. These phones dont have any moving parts, so it's not like you busted a cooling fan or anything. You're not the first to bring performance concerns to the Sensation. And frankly, I've noticed it too sometimes. At times I feel like I'm using my G2, but the good news, ICS will have a GPU accelerated UI (like the iPhone does) so performance should greatly improve soon, hang in there brother.

Thanks, i forgot to mention that i have used all launchers mentioned above with sense rom, with sense disabled via app manager (frozen) and e. g. mentioned zeam sucked. But iwill give ADW EX a try..especially when it costs 0,1 euro

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1350492
There's that non-sense rom I recommended. ADW EX is definitely worth the money, you'll notice an instant performance difference over the standard ADW. The only thing thats laggy about it (on any phone) is if you set a transparent drawer, since it's not GPU accelerated, that'll half your FPS. Hope it goes well for you, it's a shame that even with Sense disabled, you're seeing problems.
Edit: Have you tried either the Faux or Bricked kernels?

Thanks for tip with ADW Ex, it is totally smooth now Zooming animation still isn't perfect (when going from homescreen to appdrawer) but its ok. I have never thought that EX is this big performance improvement.

Funny thing is, I have the same issue. I changed the zoom duration to somehting like 300 or 350, speeds it up so it doesn't look as bad, but I can't find a solution. Atleast EX is running good though.

Hello there! I was in the same boat with my sensation. Unhappy with the seemingly laggy interface of my new 2core phone. So I rooted to reverted aosp with 1.7 kernel and this is about as snappy as I wanted it to be from the start , I'd suggest trying it out

I have something to add. I tried multiple Sense and No-Sense roms, and that homescreen to appdrawer animation is perfect on all of them. I flashed the bricked kernel, but I'm pretty confident that that's no required to get that animation smoothed out.

AOSP Lockscreen Mod for GingerClone

I can't take credit for any of the work here, I just modded the framework-res.apk and twframework.apk so that I could use the standard Gingerbread sliding tab lockscreen on my favorite ROM GingerClone. Thanks goes out to the Platypus Dev Team and everyone else involved in making this. The KJ2 Locks Mod does in fact work on GingerClone AS WELL AS OTHER ROMS, but it replaces a large portion of the theming elements of the UI with the ones from Glorious Overdose. I fixed this by modding the frameworks.
Call me crazy, but I'm a big fan of the standard Gingerbread interface, even on my old phone running CM7, I used the standard theme.
***BUGS***
-- Landscape tabs don't match portrait tabs
The only thing I've noticed so far is that the landscape lockscreen tabs do not match the portrait lockscreen tabs, but since the phone screen needs to be OPEN and locked for you to ever see this screen it shouldn't be a big deal. I've torn through the res files and can't seem to find the landscape lock tabs, so unless they're not images and are actually hard coded, I can't figure out where they're at. Maybe the dev could point me in the right direction?
Once again, I can't take credit for ANY of this. I just modded the work created by other people.
***DOWNLOAD***
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Thanks man! So I'm assuming we have to flash this? And how are you getting a 2300+ score on quadrant? I tried tegrak and even at 1.1 it was freezing up my phone and doing the 1vib followed by 3vib when it didn't freeze it up.

JonathanBarca10 said:
Thanks man! So I'm assuming we have to flash this? And how are you getting a 2300+ score on quadrant? I tried tegrak and even at 1.1 it was freezing up my phone and doing the 1vib followed by 3vib when it didn't freeze it up.
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try 1.2, that normally is pretty solid.

See I tried 1.2 but it froze even faster, and that's why I tried to downgrade to the 1.1

My q score suprised me too! First of all, it's the ROM. GingerClone is the only fully de-touchwized ROM available currently and it amazes me how well this device performs on a close to vanilla Android OS (especially for Froyo! I can only imagine that this phone would FLY with Gingerbread or ICS)
I OC'd using Tegrak to 1.125Ghz. Any higher and the system locks up on my phone regardless of ROM or kernel, but if I buy the full version of the app, I'm pretty sure I could get at least 1.4Ghz with overvolt. In the past I've noticed that especially refurbished phones can have issues with overclocking. My first LG Optimus could EASILY overclock up to 800+ Mhz stable, but I bricked it and the replacement they sent me was a refurb that couldn't handle more than 730Mhz and be stable.
But the real magic lies in using the latest version of V6 supercharger. I set mine to Aggressive 2. I had to run Quadrant a couple of times because I thought it was a glitch or a fluke the first time it broke 2000.

JonathanBarca10 said:
Thanks man! So I'm assuming we have to flash this? And how are you getting a 2300+ score on quadrant? I tried tegrak and even at 1.1 it was freezing up my phone and doing the 1vib followed by 3vib when it didn't freeze it up.
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yeah, I forgot to mention that (figured it was self explanatory). You flash it in recovery.

I just flashed GingerCloneV2, I have not overclocked or supercharged, and my quadrant score was 2025. I ran it twice to be sure it wasnt a fluke. My phone has never even approached 2000 before. The highest score I have gotten prior to GC was 1695. This rom is crazy fast. Never would have imagined a rom based on kd1 could be this fast, considering the fact that supposedly kj2 is the most stable. I just flashed this, so I cant say if this rom is stable or not yet, but I hope it is. If it stays this fast AND its stable, then I wont even worry about overclock or supercharge.

yea same here, ran quadrant on stock gingerclone and got a 1950 and was like "whaaaaaat" its pretty awesome.
have tried supercharging it, with update 9 (and maybe thats where i'm going wrong), and after about an hour it begins to do the 1 buzz followed by 3 quickfire buzzes endlessly, and i'm forced to reinstall Gingerclone. do you guys think its because i should use update 8 for supercharger? its still blindingly fast though
edit: oh and i was wondering if there was some way to take that stupid "update social network" thing from the notification bar with this lockscreen mod? because it takes away the option under the display portion of the settings.

Thanks for the heads up on the lockscreen mod disabling the social status thing. Personally, I always left it on because when you turn it off you lose your power widgets in the drop down too. I know there are widgets that do the same thing, but aside from my launcher and the Google search widget I leave my desktop clean.
I'll have to look into the original framework from gingerclone and merge some of the code with the one from the lockscreen mod. I have some exams to study for this week, but I'll try to get around to it.

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try 1.2, that normally is pretty solid.
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assuming you're running the free version of Tegrak which only changes CPU clock, for the majority of SK4G phones running at 1.2Ghz will actually result in a net loss in performance over 1.1Ghz. Without upping the voltage along with the clock speed, the processor actually begins to encounter errors.
I run into the same thing on my PC. I can safely overclock to 3.0Ghz, and I'm more than capable of overclocking to 3.2, but performance rapidly degrades any higher than 3.01 Ghz without overvolting. At 3.0Ghz, my Geekbench score is around 6500, whereas at 3.02 it falls to under 3000, and at 3.2 it's at about 1200 (if you've never used Geekbench it uses a baseline score of 1000 which is equal to a 2005 PowerMac G5 dual core, and doubling the score means doubling the performance).
If I bump the voltage up from 1.25 to 1.3v, I can overclock even higher than 3.2Ghz, but my computer doesn't have adequate cooling for that and it overheats within about 5 minutes.
So as you can see, faster clock speed doesn't necessarily equate to having a faster phone, the exact opposite can be true. Overvolting would most definitely result in a performance spike, but keep in mind that there IS NO COOLING on a cell phone, not even a heat sink. Excessive heat can very rapidly damage your phone or even break it. Another thing to consider is that not all silicon is created equal especially when you're talking about CPUs.
Look at Intel for example, they sell the EXACT SAME cpu set at different clock speeds as a Celeron, Core2duo and Core2Extreme based on how the individual chip performed on a bench test. This is why overclocking is actually possible. sometimes you get lucky with a well manufactured CPU, and sometimes you end up with a dud that can barely perform at the clock speed it's rated at.

N00b-un-2 said:
Thanks for the heads up on the lockscreen mod disabling the social status thing. Personally, I always left it on because when you turn it off you lose your power widgets in the drop down too. I know there are widgets that do the same thing, but aside from my launcher and the Google search widget I leave my desktop clean.
I'll have to look into the original framework from gingerclone and merge some of the code with the one from the lockscreen mod. I have some exams to study for this week, but I'll try to get around to it.
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alright, cool. its not a make or break thing for me, i dont mind it that much. but thanks for even saying you'll try!

Search for the best battery saving OS

Hi ,
currently I'm running CodenameAndroid 3.3.0 on my Nexus S and everything runs smooth and works perfectly well for me, no doubts. But somehow I constantly get the feeling that the newer our operating system gets our batteries drain faster. Either this or my battery just gets old. However I'm searching for a Rom that has battery saving in main purpose. I dont care about playing games, the operating system or showing off how great my phone is. For this I have my Tablet The best solution for me would be a rom which is very low in batterydrain but as smooth as jellybean (maybe just port the transitions over). I know it might be hard to find something like this but is there any rom which matches my perception? Also a nice look would be cool, too ^^
I'm waiting for your responses!

I think you're looking for SlimBean. I'm on CNA too, the batter life is pretty bad

I tried SlimBean because I used SlimICS before but I miss too many features to change it back. Isn't there something else? Or which OS has the best batterylife in general?

i think gingerbread still has the best battery life.

androxide got me over 4hrs of screen time and a days usage with matrix
the new miui jb is also almost the same

IMO.....ICS's best battery life is on Kangy Ultra Ex 1.3 by DaXmax.
Just as long as u don't use Google talk since that's the ROMs only hiccup.
Then again like most will say.... its all depending on the user so hopefully it will help if u try.
I'm currently using the same developers JB ROM called paranoid Android..... so far it great but again I don't use all the newest features to much yet. I'm working myself slowing into the stuff.
Good luck
Vs Nexus S4G using tapatalk2

There is no ROM with super battery life, some better and some worst, very similar.
Most u can get from nexus s is +4hrs screen on.
And i don't care about those pathetic screen shots with +7hrs of screen on.
Fire up 3g/H stock browser, maps, music etc and we'll find out how good ur battery life is.

MIUI get's me aprox 4 hours and 50 minutes of on screen time. Lots of game playing, instant messaging, syncing, music, and social media (Instagram, twitter, tumblr.) And about 9 hours + when it get's to about 14%
EDIT: This is when using WIFI, not my 3G.

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Hi ,
currently I'm running CodenameAndroid 3.3.0 on my Nexus S and everything runs smooth and works perfectly well for me, no doubts. But somehow I constantly get the feeling that the newer our operating system gets our batteries drain faster. Either this or my battery just gets old. However I'm searching for a Rom that has battery saving in main purpose. I dont care about playing games, the operating system or showing off how great my phone is. For this I have my Tablet The best solution for me would be a rom which is very low in batterydrain but as smooth as jellybean (maybe just port the transitions over). I know it might be hard to find something like this but is there any rom which matches my perception? Also a nice look would be cool, too ^^
I'm waiting for your responses!
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This question will produce every combo under the sun...but in the end no Real answer. Every phone/battery is different and how the person uses their phone. Apps installed, how much you use said apps, are the ram hogs, 2g, 3g, I could go on forever...just like this thread will if not eventually ignored or closed.

Closed, there is no answer to this question, the majority of battery drain will be the screen (depending on brightness) and whatever app you have installed and use.
Generally it's a matter of finding out what works for you.

Some quick memory tips...

My SGN10.1 was idling at about 1.1 ghz memory. That seemed very high to me and my tablet was feeling sluggish. Couple things I did to improve things:
1) Limited background processes to 3 in Developer section. Have not noticed any FC's or other problems as a result.
2) Went back to good old LauncherPro launcher (wallpaper works MUCH better).
3) Loaded up the new Dolphin Beta Browser (its MUCH faster than Dolphin and blacks look better).
Now my idle memory is under 700 and everything is just quicker.
YMMV. Give it a try and report back your memory results.
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I don't mind having slightly higher frequency but I really hope jelly bean will smooth up the choppy touch wiz, esp when u have widgets