I am done with Sense 2.5 or for that matter, TF3D.
Attached screenshots show what my today screen looks like.
in case you miss it, the 43% memory usage is a big reason to jump ship.
chiks19018 said:
I am done with Sense 2.5 or for that matter, TF3D.
Attached screenshots show what my today screen looks like.
in case you miss it, the 43% memory usage is a big reason to jump ship.
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look-up elecont launcher. its pretty cool if your not gonna use manila3d. i use to use it on my incite and loved it.
leemoss84 said:
look-up elecont launcher. its pretty cool if your not gonna use manila3d. i use to use it on my incite and loved it.
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I am using the "easy today launcher" to put the icons on the today screen.
This launcher is as easy it can get.
Easy Today Launcher
chiks19018 said:
I am using the "easy today launcher" to put the icons on the today screen.
This launcher is as easy it can get.
Easy Today Launcher
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elecont launcher does the same thing but lets you scroll from left to right and it will let you have up to 4 or 5 lines of apps. its like 3 bucks but you can try it out for free for like a couple weeks.
chiks19018 said:
I am done with Sense 2.5 or for that matter, TF3D.
Attached screenshots show what my today screen looks like.
in case you miss it, the 43% memory usage is a big reason to jump ship.
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I'm currently running Sense 2.5 and got 57% memory usage. Now what's the problem? What are you doing with your memory if you aren't using it? btw I never got an out of memory error or anything like that.
I used TD2 Tools to disable Push Internet engine and Resource Proxy and I get 43% memory usage while still using Manila after a fresh bootup or cleanRAM level 3... though it's Manila 2.1 not 2.5.
lol....great over reaction!
You're using less than half the available RAM and you're complaining? I have 75MB of free RAM and I can do everything I need to.
No point in having RAM if you're not going to use it imho.
Really don't understand what you're grumping about?
That's my point too. Not used RAM is wasted RAM.
PMoto
I don't necessarily agree. I have tried Sense 2.5 and my battery life became very short. Using RAM reduces your battery life which, lets face it, is not that good with a TD2. I found Sense 2.5 buggy and slow too. I prefer TESS 2.F which has Manila 2.0. This gives me 43% used ram on start up and it then stabilises to about 55% over the course of a few days. It is very stable too. Who needs the weather on their home screen anyway - you can look out of the window
Well, the fact is that TD2 is a wonderfull phone, and each and everyone is capable of doing his own costumization, and make it feel personal.
Sharing it with other, is all that we want, right? LOL
PMoto
I think the point is that more free RAM = more RAM to run memory intensive programs and more RAM to run more programs simultaneously without running into stability problems. If all you ever have is have one program open at any time then that's fine, you don't need 105Mb free memory.
Obviously to each his own. Some want all the snazzy eye candy and cool features and don't mind having less headroom. Some prefer having more ram to stretch about in. No problem with either as long as you're happy with it!
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I think the point is that more free RAM = more RAM to run memory intensive programs and more RAM to run more programs simultaneously without running into stability problems. If all you ever have is have one program open at any time then that's fine, you don't need 105Mb free memory.
Obviously to each his own. Some want all the snazzy eye candy and cool features and don't mind having less headroom. Some prefer having more ram to stretch about in. No problem with either as long as you're happy with it!
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well said nighthawk. do what you want!!!
A lot of us jumped ship a long time ago!
I've been running Titanium on Clean WM 6.5.x ROMs for a while now and never looked back. Having the extra storage space is a bonus but it's the free recources that makes it that much better. Everything runs that much faster and the latest builds of WM are really getting good.
Each to their own i say, but to make an informed choice i would recommend trying all the alternatives for yourself!
mitsi said:
I don't necessarily agree. I have tried Sense 2.5 and my battery life became very short. Using RAM reduces your battery life which, lets face it, is not that good with a TD2. I found Sense 2.5 buggy and slow too. I prefer TESS 2.F which has Manila 2.0. This gives me 43% used ram on start up and it then stabilises to about 55% over the course of a few days. It is very stable too. Who needs the weather on their home screen anyway - you can look out of the window
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Actually it depends on which ROM you have flashed. There's different version of Sense 2.5 floating around. I think the version they got from HD2 is running quite slow on Topaz. But there's another version I'm not sure but I think they got it from a Touch pro 2 (some carrier released it with Sense 2.5) and this one is running really smooth on our TD2 as well. i also can't complain about any battery life issues and with the current Sense 2.5 ROM I never had any SODs (which I sometimes had with the clean Titanium ROMs)
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I've been running Titanium on Clean WM 6.5.x ROMs for a while now and never looked back. Having the extra storage space is a bonus but it's the free recources that makes it that much better. Everything runs that much faster and the latest builds of WM are really getting good.
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Well, I first had the stock ROM for a while with Manila 2.0 running on it. Then when 6.5 came out I switched to custom Titanium ROMs. Recently I switched to Sense 2.5 and with the ROM I'm running it's A LOT faster and running more smoothy compared to the clean 6.5 Titanium ROMs I used before.
Like someone said before it's really up to everyone's own taste but I don't think you can generally say "Sense 2.5 sucks it's so slow and buggy". To be honest I thought this before as well but since running my own 2.5 I got prooved otherwise.
The rom below is running sweet. It's 2.1, but it's as responsive as I've ever had.
Running at 52%, last rebooted about a week ago. I charge overnight by my bed.
My RAM usage shows 43% right now with Sense 2.1 running (Stock ROM), with SPB Mobile Shell 3.5.3 running it's like 46%. No difference in performance at all, very smooth..
nighthawk1982 said:
I think the point is that more free RAM = more RAM to run memory intensive programs and more RAM to run more programs simultaneously without running into stability problems. If all you ever have is have one program open at any time then that's fine, you don't need 105Mb free memory.
Obviously to each his own. Some want all the snazzy eye candy and cool features and don't mind having less headroom. Some prefer having more ram to stretch about in. No problem with either as long as you're happy with it!
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+1
that is what I want. Thanks.
RAMMANN said:
Like someone said before it's really up to everyone's own taste but I don't think you can generally say "Sense 2.5 sucks it's so slow and buggy". To be honest I thought this before as well but since running my own 2.5 I got prooved otherwise.
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Sense 2.5 is not buggy for me. That was not the problem at all.
But if I had Opera10 open and then i open one more application, it would show the spinning wheel if I say went to the album or some other RAM intensive program.
On top of that, Sense2.5 is a big waste of real estate. The home screen would show time on the main bar, then again on the sense, plus another bar to show program name. wtf.
I would switch to prideIV, but i like the idea of having the new htc messaging (i know it sucks) as it allows attaching media easily and has a good threaded messaging screen.
Now I have my appointments on the home screen, the time, my fav icons and a search bar too.
chiks19018 said:
I would switch to prideIV, but i like the idea of having the new htc messaging (i know it sucks) as it allows attaching media easily and has a good threaded messaging screen.
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Hey, have you tried having Pride IV with NRGZ' Messaging app? It should work...
~20% battery usage after 8 and half hour
I cooked my own ROM based off the 2.53 kitchen posted in the ROM forum. Removed a few apps and added some. My phone is on for last 8 and a half hour with 2G internet and Push mail on. There have been quite a few emails that have come and I have checked in this time. There have been Connective Tools Alarm that ran for about 15 mins. And the Battery consumption is close to 20%. Going by this, I can charge my phone on alternate days.. And it has Sense 2.5 (without of course the Footprint, Documents. I have the eReader cooked in as well). I see my RAM consumption at 46% at start up and peaks around 65% but mostly stays at less than 60% (Showcase cooked in).
Radio version: 4.49.25.91 (I had drains with other radios)
OS: 21887...
[Add] not to mention the super fast the ROM is at 14MB page pool..
Related
How do we make a rom with the best battery life? In this thread, we will make it.
Food for thought:
Underclocking
*#*#4636#*#* configurations (wcdma, gsm only, what is best)...}These two will help with the "mobile network" process,
lower gprsclass........................................................}that uses so much in the "battery usage" breakdown in settings
undervolting
wifi scan time
2g networks only
Battery-optimized kernel
NO Swap or Ram Hack or CompCache
ETC.
Anyone have ideas.
I will now list the rom with the best battery life (that i've ever tried)
Htcclay's Superfast 1.3.3
Please post the roms you think have best battery life.
I'm going on a vacation and will not have a charger handy at all times. What is best for me??? contributions are welcome (until we make the ultimate rom discussed in this thread.)
gee the forums are slow today... reserved
enomthers official AOSP 1.6..
i am running superbad cm51.2.3gj4 and i get around 24-30 hours on a single charge
I'm running SuperD 1.11 with SetCPU @ 384/128 and get about 4 days on a single charge. 3 days with heavy usage and 6 days without any data transfer (only sms and sometimes phone calls).
This is by far the best ROM for battery life I've used. Haven't tried Superfast 1.3.3.
Is it possible to undervolt G1s or MT3Gs?
jumped to almost every 2.1 rom out, Chromatics 3.5 being the last 1 and all of them are battery hogs. I was tired of it so decided to revert back to 1.6 roms (htc clays super csdi) and must say that Im staying here..Its much faster and the battery life nearly doubles. and also with ADW launcher, it gives you everything you need besides MT. Again battery is amazing on csdi roms. just make sure you turn off modder cpu and turbo mode in supsetup and use setcpu clocked at 128min 528max..
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jumped to almost every 2.1 rom out, Chromatics 3.5 being the last 1 and all of them are battery hogs. I was tired of it so decided to revert back to 1.6 roms (htc clays super csdi) and must say that Im staying here..Its much faster and the battery life nearly doubles. and also with ADW launcher, it gives you everything you need besides MT. Again battery is amazing on csdi roms. just make sure you turn off modder cpu and turbo mode in supsetup and use setcpu clocked at 128min 528max..
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I agree. Battery life with 2.1 roms is terrible compared to 1.6 roms (which last up to 50% longer).
Something doesn't seem right with 2.1 roms. I hope Froyo will be better.
i really like the idea of a battery-optimized rom for g1/32b.
i also made the experience that 1.6 roms are better in terms of battery life than 2.1 based roms. they also are much faster
btw: the best 2.1 based rom for battery is speedtest 1.2
I agree that the 2.1 roms are all terrble, and that something uniform must be wrong with all of them in order to have ALL of them have such bad battery
wow that was horrible... im tired
I'm glad that many of you are interested in a battery-optimized rom. I'll be trying out SuperD today, but its use of swap is detrimental to battery life... I'll have to see.
Any other suggestions?
shamo42 said:
I'm running SuperD 1.11 with SetCPU @ 384/128 and get about 4 days on a single charge. 3 days with heavy usage and 6 days without any data transfer (only sms and sometimes phone calls).
This is by far the best ROM for battery life I've used. Haven't tried Superfast 1.3.3.
Is it possible to undervolt G1s or MT3Gs?
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that's attractive... are you using ram hack or not? swap/compcache settings?
I remember some of the older 2.1 (Not CM 5 based) roms being not nearly as bad on battery life, like KingKlick's. It wasn't as fast and stable as Cyanogen's, but I remember being able to easily go through a full day and half without needing to charge (with moderate use, and an 8 hour gap of nothing for sleep). Maybe digging some of them up and doing some tests?
MaSt3rGrIfF said:
I remember some of the older 2.1 (Not CM 5 based) roms being not nearly as bad on battery life, like KingKlick's. It wasn't as fast and stable as Cyanogen's, but I remember being able to easily go through a full day and half without needing to charge (with moderate use, and an 8 hour gap of nothing for sleep). Maybe digging some of them up and doing some tests?
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i remember gamercore tweeted about openeclair 1.1 being really good, and i tried it, and it was quite good, but the rom sucked and it was hardly comparable to donut.
jcarrz1 said:
i remember gamercore tweeted about openeclair 1.1 being really good, and i tried it, and it was quite good, but the rom sucked and it was hardly comparable to donut.
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Hmmm, well didn't OpenEclair go up to 2.2.1, before Wes joined CyanogenMod? Do we know what the big difference is between those older roms and Cyanogen's implementation and why there's such a drastic battery (and performance) difference? I always thought it was just lack of drivers and Cyanogen did extensive work to various driver projects to get workable drivers. Would his drivers be the cause of poor battery life? I'm grasping at straws here, but that seems like one of the only things it could be to me.
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that's attractive... are you using ram hack or not? swap/compcache settings?
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No compcache/swap but with ram hack.
2.1 roms are using a lot more ram then 1.6 roms.
With 1.6 I have about 40 to 50 MB of free ram after using taskiller.
With 2.1 only 20 MB. This is just a guess but whatever is using these 20-30 MB of ram might be partially responsible for the battery drain.
If additional battery drain is the nature of Eclair (which clearly wasn't built with our "old" phones in mind) then Froyo might bring some improvement.
shamo42 said:
No compcache/swap but with ram hack.
2.1 roms are using a lot more ram then 1.6 roms.
With 1.6 I have about 40 to 50 MB of free ram after using taskiller.
With 2.1 only 20 MB. This is just a guess but whatever is using these 20-30 MB of ram might be partially responsible for the battery drain.
If additional battery drain is the nature of Eclair (which clearly wasn't with our "old" phones in mind) then Froyo might bring some improvement.
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I've noticed the same thing. 2.2 seems to be better... but jubeh's rom quit apps in the background much quicker than the other guy who compiled from source and posted in this forum (his had no wifi tho, but i liked it better because of memory management)... i don't know what the difference was, but i liked the other guy's froyo rom better.
Back on topic, I still think that 1.6 remains the best rom for battery life.
shamo42 said:
No compcache/swap but with ram hack.
2.1 roms are using a lot more ram then 1.6 roms.
With 1.6 I have about 40 to 50 MB of free ram after using taskiller.
With 2.1 only 20 MB. This is just a guess but whatever is using these 20-30 MB of ram might be partially responsible for the battery drain.
If additional battery drain is the nature of Eclair (which clearly wasn't with our "old" phones in mind) then Froyo might bring some improvement.
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and I heard that 1.10.2 was even better than 1.11 for battery life... (dusty donut as ben called it), is this true? and i can't assess how much changed between 1.10.2 and 1.11 because ben buchacher's changelog is down... somebody help me out here?
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and I heard that 1.10.2 was even better than 1.11 for battery life... (dusty donut as ben called it), is this true? and i can't assess how much changed between 1.10.2 and 1.11 because ben buchacher's changelog is down... somebody help me out here?
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v 1.11 release date : 2010 04 29
Change Log:
-Updated Frameworks and Settings from latest Cyanogenmod Donut tree
-Proxy Settings in Wireless Settings
-WIFI in Airplane mode
-USB Debugging notification option
-5 minute screen timeout option added
-Updated Working Renice script -thanks to merlos
-Media to SD -thanks to merlos
-Exchange Work Email app fixed
-Battery percentage option in SpareParts
-Live Folder FC fixed
-Portrait / Columns bug fixed
-Remove Launcher script – This fixes the battery life.-thanks to merlos
– from terminal type remove_launcher then the one you want to remove nexus or stock
—-EXAMPLE: remove_launcher stock
-Other Crap
Maybe the claim that 1.10.02 has better battery life is because of the "Battery percentage option in SpareParts" Some people think it drains the battery. For users of 1.11 I recommend to disable it (Settings -> Spare Parts -> Battery Status Display)
I would like to add something about RAM hack... Some games don't appear as "3d" but still need that RAM. As I remember running a 3d game on a ROM with the RAM hack would drain your battery horribly fast and make the game horribly laggy. Well some games can handle the lag, but still destroy battery life.
r3s-rt said:
I would like to add something about RAM hack... Some games don't appear as "3d" but still need that RAM. As I remember running a 3d game on a ROM with the RAM hack would drain your battery horribly fast and make the game horribly laggy. Well some games can handle the lag, but still destroy battery life.
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I think the main idea about this thread/rom is to make a rom for the g1 that makes for great battery regardless, so ram hack could be an option that will be disabled for this rom.
jcarrz1 said:
I think the main idea about this thread/rom is to make a rom for the g1 that makes for great battery regardless, so ram hack could be an option that will be disabled for this rom.
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I know what the thread's about, silly. But RAM hack has a great chance of just destroying the whole "better battery life" aspect and I don't think there's really a way around that, that's all I was trying to say.
If you do end up making a ROM with crazy good battery life, I'll definitely keep it around for vacations. I made the mistake of going on vacation with a 2.1 ROM - my phone lived for two days out of a week (and that's with charging every chance I got) so I'm all for you. =]
Hi, Im new here, this might be my first post as I dont remember setting up an account but I guess i did cause I could login.
I was just wondering if anyone else liked having a low res screen? I do myself because games run smoother and the battery drain isn't as great. I run taxing programs too like emulators.
I haven't noticed any light bleed. I was getting reboots though. I took someone's advice and unistalled tmobile apps with titanium backup. That seemed to fix it. After it was working I played around with some cyanogen builds but they don't quite seem ready for 24/7 use. Im currently on the leaked tmobile gingerbread 2.3.3.
I am coming from an N900 and do not like the way Android multitasks, but thats as far as my complaints go. I ran android on n900 thru nitroid so I knew what I was getting.
I am curious about an oveclocking kernel and if it is compatible with stock tmobile 2.3.3 (the leaked gingerbread).
I like simple themes so I thought Id show a screenshot of mine. There's no scrolling. Its only 1 page. Set to fast mode with ADW launcher. Using clockr widget, widgetsoid, and some widget besides stock music player I get this with a wallpaper from the HD wallpaper app.
The angry birds icon, nes icon, and folder icon open folders to android games, emulators and programs respectively. I think the icons I used are the glass sense ADW theme if i remember correctly
Read my launcher review thread. Launcher Pro runs the best on the G2x out of Go, ADW and Zeam. Its even smoother than the stock launcher and much more smoother than ADW.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App
My battery lasts longer than my low resolution G1, so it's not the battery drain that gets me. I've been sticking with the default resolution on this thing because I can type crazy fast with it. If I increase the density, I start getting mistypes.
I always swapped back and forth between ADW and Launcher Pro back in the day, but with the G2x I find myself sticking with the default launcher.
r4d14n7 said:
My battery lasts longer than my low resolution G1, so it's not the battery drain that gets me. I've been sticking with the default resolution on this thing because I can type crazy fast with it. If I increase the density, I start getting mistypes.
I always swapped back and forth between ADW and Launcher Pro back in the day, but with the G2x I find myself sticking with the default launcher.
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I meant more so the stock resolution vs. a super amoled screen. Higher res and larger screen means more battery used especially considering its got tegra under the hood.
OK, so I know there has been a lot of b*tching about the Tbolt battery life, especially if you are running Gingerbread and a Sense 2.1 or 3.0 ROM (I am running BAMF 3.0 R4.9). I just may have solved this issue when you can connect to a WiFi access point!
Using a program called Tasker, I have created specific profiles that actually help save my battery as well as do a lot of other things to make life easier. The learning curve is somewhat steep for non-Tech geeks, but it's not too difficult after you get the hang of it. (I think the only version of Tasker in the market is pay for use, but you can get a free trial from the Dev's website directly.)
On to how I can get a 22+ hour standard TBolt battery:
1st new profile:
-Called "WiFi"
-Context = WiFi Connected (Any SSID)
-Task = NET>WiFi Sleep>Never
2nd new profile:
-Called "Dim Screen"
-Context = Power Source Any, click "Invert" button (so when the phone is not charging).
-Task = Display>Display Brightness>Set to "20" and check "Immediate Effect" (you can certainly change it to something higher, but you may not get nearly the same battery life).
On WiFi, I can get almost 23 hours of battery. On 4G, I can get upwards of 8 hours, 3G I have yet to test.
Since LTE was just turned on near where I live, I noticed that my TBolt was making WiFi sleep while it sat in my pocket not in use, therefor switching to 4G/LTE and draining the battery. The brightness obviously helps when I am not plugged in no matter if I am 3G/4G/WiFi.
I have some other useful profiles setup. Like I have the phone screen go to Auto Brightness and into the Sense Dock Mode when the phone is charging. My favorite is the Car Dock Profile... when the phone goes into my Car Dock, the Bluetooth turns on, GPS goes on, and Google Music Starts.
I am a big fan of Tasker now... there are a lot of possibilities with the program!
WorldOfJohnboy said:
OK, so I know there has been a lot of b*tching about the Tbolt battery life, especially if you are running Gingerbread and a Sense 2.1 or 3.0 ROM (I am running BAMF 3.0 R4.9). I just may have solved this issue when you can connect to a WiFi access point!
Using a program called Tasker, I have created specific profiles that actually help save my battery as well as do a lot of other things to make life easier. The learning curve is somewhat steep for non-Tech geeks, but it's not too difficult after you get the hang of it. (I think the only version of Tasker in the market is pay for use, but you can get a free trial from the Dev's website directly.)
On to how I can get a 22+ hour standard TBolt battery:
1st new profile:
-Called "WiFi"
-Context = WiFi Connected (Any SSID)
-Task = NET>WiFi Sleep>Never
2nd new profile:
-Called "Dim Screen"
-Context = Power Source Any, click "Invert" button (so when the phone is not charging).
-Task = Display>Display Brightness>Set to "20" and check "Immediate Effect" (you can certainly change it to something higher, but you may not get nearly the same battery life).
On WiFi, I can get almost 23 hours of battery. On 4G, I can get upwards of 8 hours, 3G I have yet to test.
Since LTE was just turned on near where I live, I noticed that my TBolt was making WiFi sleep while it sat in my pocket not in use, therefor switching to 4G/LTE and draining the battery. The brightness obviously helps when I am not plugged in no matter if I am 3G/4G/WiFi.
I have some other useful profiles setup. Like I have the phone screen go to Auto Brightness and into the Sense Dock Mode when the phone is charging. My favorite is the Car Dock Profile... when the phone goes into my Car Dock, the Bluetooth turns on, GPS goes on, and Google Music Starts.
I am a big fan of Tasker now... there are a lot of possibilities with the program!
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I'm gonna say you might want to try a MUCH more modern ROM. I'm having very little trouble eeking 18 hours out of mine under moderate use, and well over a day if I'm not messing with it much. It will typically consume around 1.7% per hour unused, LTE on.
WorldOfJohnboy said:
OK, so I know there has been a lot of b*tching about the Tbolt battery life, especially if you are running Gingerbread and a Sense 2.1 or 3.0 ROM (I am running BAMF 3.0 R4.9). I just may have solved this issue when you can connect to a WiFi access point!
Using a program called Tasker, I have created specific profiles that actually help save my battery as well as do a lot of other things to make life easier. The learning curve is somewhat steep for non-Tech geeks, but it's not too difficult after you get the hang of it. (I think the only version of Tasker in the market is pay for use, but you can get a free trial from the Dev's website directly.)
On to how I can get a 22+ hour standard TBolt battery:
1st new profile:
-Called "WiFi"
-Context = WiFi Connected (Any SSID)
-Task = NET>WiFi Sleep>Never
2nd new profile:
-Called "Dim Screen"
-Context = Power Source Any, click "Invert" button (so when the phone is not charging).
-Task = Display>Display Brightness>Set to "20" and check "Immediate Effect" (you can certainly change it to something higher, but you may not get nearly the same battery life).
On WiFi, I can get almost 23 hours of battery. On 4G, I can get upwards of 8 hours, 3G I have yet to test.
Since LTE was just turned on near where I live, I noticed that my TBolt was making WiFi sleep while it sat in my pocket not in use, therefor switching to 4G/LTE and draining the battery. The brightness obviously helps when I am not plugged in no matter if I am 3G/4G/WiFi.
I have some other useful profiles setup. Like I have the phone screen go to Auto Brightness and into the Sense Dock Mode when the phone is charging. My favorite is the Car Dock Profile... when the phone goes into my Car Dock, the Bluetooth turns on, GPS goes on, and Google Music Starts.
I am a big fan of Tasker now... there are a lot of possibilities with the program!
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how do you get the GPS to enable? I've tried to set up my GPS to come when I open maps, navigation or anything that needs gps enable but I get "sorry that action is unavailable on this device."
Llama also does what Tasker does. And its free. I find that Llama works better too. I can get near 24 hours with everything stock.
loonatik78 said:
I'm gonna say you might want to try a MUCH more modern ROM. I'm having very little trouble eeking 18 hours out of mine under moderate use, and well over a day if I'm not messing with it much. It will typically consume around 1.7% per hour unused, LTE on.
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Modern? The ROM I have is running Gingerbread and is full Sense 3.0 (which appears to be a big battery hog). When I was on a GB Sense 2.1 ROM from the same Dev, I was getting better battery. The only thing that may improve the battery any more on GB/Sense 3.0 would be a new and improved Kernel, though I think I am on one of the more stable ones.
warmonster said:
how do you get the GPS to enable? I've tried to set up my GPS to come when I open maps, navigation or anything that needs gps enable but I get "sorry that action is unavailable on this device."
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You are right, my bad... it throws up a disclaimer that GPS enabling is not available on any 2.3 ROM because of the Pop-up. They suggest using Cyanogen (sp) if you want to use the feature on a 2.3 ROM.
andydumi said:
Llama also does what Tasker does. And its free. I find that Llama works better too. I can get near 24 hours with everything stock.
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Potato, Patahto. I like Tasker and found it really granular once I started playing with it. I don't mind paying for an app that is well Developed and supported. (If you like Llama that much, you should use the donate version to "thank" the Dev team!) The 23hrs is an estimated capacity right now as Battery Left is still calibrating.
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Modern? The ROM I have is running Gingerbread and is full Sense 3.0 (which appears to be a big battery hog). When I was on a GB Sense 2.1 ROM from the same Dev, I was getting better battery. The only thing that may improve the battery any more on GB/Sense 3.0 would be a new and improved Kernel, though I think I am on one of the more stable ones.
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I think he is refering to roms based off the 2.11 leak. battery life in that Ruu is much better than any other previous ruu. Any roms based off it will give you more life by default. The bamf 4.9 Rom is kinda old when your talking about custom roms and it isn't based on the 2.11 ruu.
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Modern? The ROM I have is running Gingerbread and is full Sense 3.0 (which appears to be a big battery hog). When I was on a GB Sense 2.1 ROM from the same Dev, I was getting better battery. The only thing that may improve the battery any more on GB/Sense 3.0 would be a new and improved Kernel, though I think I am on one of the more stable ones.
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You say BAMF 3.0 R4.9 is your ROM. This ROM is old, based upon the 2.01 GB leak (which is about 4 leaks ago), which was terribly flawed in many ways, and isn't even being developed by BAMF anymore. The newer kernels won't even work right on that ROM because aspects of the WiFi and camera have been changed in later leaks.
You're application of Tasker is probably one of the ONLY rational uses of such an app. Using it for such things as turning GPS on and off is pointless, and redundant, because Android already does that as long as you have GPS enabled. Having it enabled doesn't use any power unless you're using apps that abuse it, such as some of the traffic update apps that constantly update your position.
Power management apps aren't quite as useless as task killer apps, but for the purposes I see people use them for, they're not doing you many favors. I'm generally not a fan of these apps and I strongly recommend against task killers because the result of their use simply increases the amount of NAND reads the CPU must make, which is the most power intensive operation that CPU performs.
Newer ROMs, such as the RUU 2.10 and 2.11 based ROMs, are significantly better on battery life than the older ones, especially when used with the radios from the 1.70 OTA, 2.07 RUU, 2.10 RUU, and 2.11 RUU. I'd make the jump to a more modern ROM before I tried manipulating an older one to perform. Or, move up to a newer one and do the same thing and see what you get. In any event, there's good room for improvement.
I tried several ways to conserve battery and finally decided that it just isn't worth it to me to have to stop running game apps, to have to set the phone up a specific way, to carefully monitor what each app does etcetera. I went out Tuesday and bought a extended battery from a Verizon store. With discount I paid $25.00 for the battery and cover. I am now getting right around twenty five hours total battery life off one charge and I have watched videos, played games, played music, and did whatever else I could think of to kill that battery. I am ecstatic with it. Now when I am out overnight mountain climbing with the missus granted I will undoubtedly kill some apps. Wouldn't do to run into BigFoot, Smokey the Bear, and Jason Vorhies with a dead battery and no chocolate bars ( since she for some reason feels I should diet) now would it?
ps. I made sure it had antennaes on the cover. It has more than my original cover does. And the clerk had no clue why i was even asking about the antenaes on the cover
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I tried several ways to conserve battery and finally decided that it just isn't worth it to me to have to stop running game apps, to have to set the phone up a specific way, to carefully monitor what each app does etcetera. I went out Tuesday and bought a extended battery from a Verizon store. With discount I paid $25.00 for the battery and cover. I am now getting right around twenty five hours total battery life off one charge and I have watched videos, played games, played music, and did whatever else I could think of to kill that battery. I am ecstatic with it. Now when I am out overnight mountain climbing with the missus granted I will undoubtedly kill some apps. Wouldn't do to run into BigFoot, Smokey the Bear, and Jason Vorhies with a dead battery and no chocolate bars ( since she for some reason feels I should diet) now would it?
ps. I made sure it had antennaes on the cover. It has more than my original cover does. And the clerk had no clue why i was even asking about the antenaes on the cover
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Reps are pretty clueless, in general. They're sales people and that's about it. That's what cracks me up when I see these goofy "corporate memos" that supposedly when out to stores with stuff like RUU and radio version numbers on them. Like the geek behind the counter actually knows any of that???
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Reps are pretty clueless, in general. They're sales people and that's about it. That's what cracks me up when I see these goofy "corporate memos" that supposedly when out to stores with stuff like RUU and radio version numbers on them. Like the geek behind the counter actually knows any of that???
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Yea tell me about it. At the Verizon kiosk in Costco I actually argued with the guy because he was spouting off about the Specs on AT&T phones being better than what were on the Thunderbolt. Saying how much better AT&T was and all this stuff. I listened for only a few minutes before I realized he was an imbecile. He was just throwing out things that made him sound like he knew what he was talking about. And yea you read that right. This brain fart of a human being was promoting AT&T from a Verizon kiosk
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Yea tell me about it. At the Verizon kiosk in Costco I actually argued with the guy because he was spouting off about the Specs on AT&T phones being better than what were on the Thunderbolt. Saying how much better AT&T was and all this stuff. I listened for only a few minutes before I realized he was an imbecile. He was just throwing out things that made him sound like he knew what he was talking about. And yea you read that right. This brain fart of a human being was promoting AT&T from a Verizon kiosk
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Further proving Einstein's point... The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits.
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You say BAMF 3.0 R4.9 is your ROM. This ROM is old, based upon the 2.01 GB leak (which is about 4 leaks ago), which was terribly flawed in many ways, and isn't even being developed by BAMF anymore. The newer kernels won't even work right on that ROM because aspects of the WiFi and camera have been changed in later leaks.
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If you can point me to a ROM that has full Sense 3.0 and the latest GB leak, please point me in that direction.
You're application of Tasker is probably one of the ONLY rational uses of such an app. Using it for such things as turning GPS on and off is pointless, and redundant, because Android already does that as long as you have GPS enabled. Having it enabled doesn't use any power unless you're using apps that abuse it, such as some of the traffic update apps that constantly update your position.
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Considering I do use a bunch of Apps that can use GPS (Foursquare, Weather, and my Car Dock=Car Home) and I don't always need GPS on to do what I do in them, I choose to have GPS inactive as to not chew up more battery than is necessary.
Power management apps aren't quite as useless as task killer apps, but for the purposes I see people use them for, they're not doing you many favors. I'm generally not a fan of these apps and I strongly recommend against task killers because the result of their use simply increases the amount of NAND reads the CPU must make, which is the most power intensive operation that CPU performs.
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I have never and will never use a task killer. Tasker is basically a way to create a 'macro' or series of them to help do things without having to click 18 different things on your phone. Apples to oranges.
Newer ROMs, such as the RUU 2.10 and 2.11 based ROMs, are significantly better on battery life than the older ones, especially when used with the radios from the 1.70 OTA, 2.07 RUU, 2.10 RUU, and 2.11 RUU. I'd make the jump to a more modern ROM before I tried manipulating an older one to perform. Or, move up to a newer one and do the same thing and see what you get. In any event, there's good room for improvement.
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As I said, if there is a viable full Sense 3.0 ROM with the latest RUU out there, please let me know what it is. Until that happens, I will use Tasker to fix the flaws that exist in my current RUU/ROM.
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You say BAMF 3.0 R4.9 is your ROM. This ROM is old, based upon the 2.01 GB leak (which is about 4 leaks ago), which was terribly flawed in many ways, and isn't even being developed by BAMF anymore. The newer kernels won't even work right on that ROM because aspects of the WiFi and camera have been changed in later leaks.
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Really...newer kernels don't work with BAMF 3.0 RC4.9??? That's funny because I'm running Ziggy's latest on BAMF 3.0 RC4.9 with working WiFi and camera, front and back.
Out of all the 3.0, 2.1/3.0 ROM's this is the only one that I have never missed a call because I could not answer the phone because of the end only call bug.
It might be an older ROM but it's still one of the best for this phone.
UberBAMF, Adrynalyne's side-project BAMF, both of the Gingeritis ROMs, Th3ory's ROMs, Synergy... Where the Ziggy kernel came from. Maybe I'm wrong and 4.9 uses the 2.07 base. I've used nothing but 2.07 and newer Chingy ROMs for the last 2 months as daily drivers and I've never once seen this "end call only" bug.
Ziggy's kernels aren't freely available so I don't consider it an available custom kernel.
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UberBAMF, Adrynalyne's side-project BAMF, both of the Gingeritis ROMs, Th3ory's ROMs, Synergy... Where the Ziggy kernel came from. Maybe I'm wrong and 4.9 uses the 2.07 base. I've used nothing but 2.07 and newer Chingy ROMs for the last 2 months as daily drivers and I've never once seen this "end call only" bug.
Ziggy's kernels aren't freely available so I don't consider it an available custom kernel.
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Anyone that downloads Gingeritis, or Synergy has full access to Ziggy's kernels. I would call that freely available. Either which way they still work on BAMF 3.0 RC4.9.
As for the ROM's you listed not one of them are a full Sense 3.0 ROM like RC4.9.
If you have never had the end only call bug consider yourself lucky because there are theads on both themikmik and team BAMF about this bug.
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End-call only bug is real. In 2 months of running bamf (currently on uber 3), I've encountered it once. Others have been plagued with it. Basically, when someone calls, it only displays the large "end call" button.
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Anyone that downloads Gingeritis, or Synergy has full access to Ziggy's kernels. I would call that freely available. Either which way they still work on BAMF 3.0 RC4.9.
As for the ROM's you listed not one of them are a full Sense 3.0 ROM like RC4.9.
If you have never had the end only call bug consider yourself lucky because there are theads on both themikmik and team BAMF about this bug.
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I hardly call Ziggy's kernel freely available by any stretch of the imagination. That's like saying iOS is free to anyone to use. Not really if you ONLY get it with this product or that! Ziggy also flouts the GPL like it's no big deal, so obtaining his source is nigh impossible. He's got one of the least available kernels that exists.
Sense 3.0 is eye candy. Like live wallpaper, its cool for a day, that's about it. And Rosie launcher is weak. I mean, if that's your thing, cool. It's your phone. But AOSP roms are far beyond BAMF, and far more stable. Shift B2 is the best rom I've run on my Bolt, hands down. With G+ loaded I get between 18-22 hours moderate use. Without G+ I can get a little over 28 hours. This is all 3G, as our towers havent been upgraded yet here in BFE. I understand the desire for battery life on stock battery. I pocket mine for 8 hours a day, so extended battery is unappealing. I underclock to 768 and my phone is still more responsive than it was with sense at 1.4.
Hi ,
currently I'm running CodenameAndroid 3.3.0 on my Nexus S and everything runs smooth and works perfectly well for me, no doubts. But somehow I constantly get the feeling that the newer our operating system gets our batteries drain faster. Either this or my battery just gets old. However I'm searching for a Rom that has battery saving in main purpose. I dont care about playing games, the operating system or showing off how great my phone is. For this I have my Tablet The best solution for me would be a rom which is very low in batterydrain but as smooth as jellybean (maybe just port the transitions over). I know it might be hard to find something like this but is there any rom which matches my perception? Also a nice look would be cool, too ^^
I'm waiting for your responses!
I think you're looking for SlimBean. I'm on CNA too, the batter life is pretty bad
I tried SlimBean because I used SlimICS before but I miss too many features to change it back. Isn't there something else? Or which OS has the best batterylife in general?
i think gingerbread still has the best battery life.
androxide got me over 4hrs of screen time and a days usage with matrix
the new miui jb is also almost the same
IMO.....ICS's best battery life is on Kangy Ultra Ex 1.3 by DaXmax.
Just as long as u don't use Google talk since that's the ROMs only hiccup.
Then again like most will say.... its all depending on the user so hopefully it will help if u try.
I'm currently using the same developers JB ROM called paranoid Android..... so far it great but again I don't use all the newest features to much yet. I'm working myself slowing into the stuff.
Good luck
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There is no ROM with super battery life, some better and some worst, very similar.
Most u can get from nexus s is +4hrs screen on.
And i don't care about those pathetic screen shots with +7hrs of screen on.
Fire up 3g/H stock browser, maps, music etc and we'll find out how good ur battery life is.
MIUI get's me aprox 4 hours and 50 minutes of on screen time. Lots of game playing, instant messaging, syncing, music, and social media (Instagram, twitter, tumblr.) And about 9 hours + when it get's to about 14%
EDIT: This is when using WIFI, not my 3G.
ColdKiller93 said:
Hi ,
currently I'm running CodenameAndroid 3.3.0 on my Nexus S and everything runs smooth and works perfectly well for me, no doubts. But somehow I constantly get the feeling that the newer our operating system gets our batteries drain faster. Either this or my battery just gets old. However I'm searching for a Rom that has battery saving in main purpose. I dont care about playing games, the operating system or showing off how great my phone is. For this I have my Tablet The best solution for me would be a rom which is very low in batterydrain but as smooth as jellybean (maybe just port the transitions over). I know it might be hard to find something like this but is there any rom which matches my perception? Also a nice look would be cool, too ^^
I'm waiting for your responses!
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This question will produce every combo under the sun...but in the end no Real answer. Every phone/battery is different and how the person uses their phone. Apps installed, how much you use said apps, are the ram hogs, 2g, 3g, I could go on forever...just like this thread will if not eventually ignored or closed.
Closed, there is no answer to this question, the majority of battery drain will be the screen (depending on brightness) and whatever app you have installed and use.
Generally it's a matter of finding out what works for you.
My Charge is routinely running 275 - 300 MB of RAM even when "idle" and I receive a LOT of warnings that my memory is running low when I'm using Tasker or Evernote. While I use Linux at home on my personal computer, I'm by no means a professional in any real sense of the word. But my layperson's understanding of RAM is that, generally speaking, more is better and allows for a machine to run, boot, etc... faster and more reliably. I've read that the Charge is a RAM wannabe and I know there are phones with much more than is available with this device but does that mean anything for this phone? Should I be using something that will clear more RAM for me or is that just a pipe dream and I have to deal with the lack of RAM by buying a new phone at some later time?
I'm using Tweaked 3.1 and have to say that Dwitheral has made this phone one I'm happy with - my fiancee has the Charge as well and is paranoid about rooting / ROMing, so she is totally stock. Needless to say, her phone sucks eggs and mine doesn't. I'm looking for a replacement but will not do so until Black Friday next year - then I can get a device that's a little "older" for less than $50 that will be a huge improvement over the Charge. In the meantime, with Tweaked 3.1, a Hyperion 3500 mha extended life battery and Tasker, this phone is serviceable. But the high RAM usage nags at me and I'm wondering if this is really an issue and, if so, is there anything to do about it? When I look at running applications in task manager, it is usually none or one, maybe, on occasion, two running applications.
Can someone clarify this for me? Do I need to be concerned and, if so, is there a solution that doesn't start with "Upon entering the Verizon store, ask where the new DNA is located...."
Thanks in advance!
Forget what you know about RAM in Windows, because this isn't Windows. In Linux (and by extension in Android), unused RAM is generally considered to be wasted. The Android low memory killer (LMK) will take care of killing apps and freeing when it needs to make space for other things, and artificially killing stuff is going to make your phone perform worse and use more battery. You need enough free for apps to have room to start without waiting, but not so much that it kills background apps that you want there. You can tweak the LMK, but 275-300MB used (75-100MB free) is pretty close to the sweet spot for this phone.
I guess it is from since of the tweaks I am running, but I usually have an extra 50-80 MB from what you described.
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