OK, so I know there has been a lot of b*tching about the Tbolt battery life, especially if you are running Gingerbread and a Sense 2.1 or 3.0 ROM (I am running BAMF 3.0 R4.9). I just may have solved this issue when you can connect to a WiFi access point!
Using a program called Tasker, I have created specific profiles that actually help save my battery as well as do a lot of other things to make life easier. The learning curve is somewhat steep for non-Tech geeks, but it's not too difficult after you get the hang of it. (I think the only version of Tasker in the market is pay for use, but you can get a free trial from the Dev's website directly.)
On to how I can get a 22+ hour standard TBolt battery:
1st new profile:
-Called "WiFi"
-Context = WiFi Connected (Any SSID)
-Task = NET>WiFi Sleep>Never
2nd new profile:
-Called "Dim Screen"
-Context = Power Source Any, click "Invert" button (so when the phone is not charging).
-Task = Display>Display Brightness>Set to "20" and check "Immediate Effect" (you can certainly change it to something higher, but you may not get nearly the same battery life).
On WiFi, I can get almost 23 hours of battery. On 4G, I can get upwards of 8 hours, 3G I have yet to test.
Since LTE was just turned on near where I live, I noticed that my TBolt was making WiFi sleep while it sat in my pocket not in use, therefor switching to 4G/LTE and draining the battery. The brightness obviously helps when I am not plugged in no matter if I am 3G/4G/WiFi.
I have some other useful profiles setup. Like I have the phone screen go to Auto Brightness and into the Sense Dock Mode when the phone is charging. My favorite is the Car Dock Profile... when the phone goes into my Car Dock, the Bluetooth turns on, GPS goes on, and Google Music Starts.
I am a big fan of Tasker now... there are a lot of possibilities with the program!
WorldOfJohnboy said:
OK, so I know there has been a lot of b*tching about the Tbolt battery life, especially if you are running Gingerbread and a Sense 2.1 or 3.0 ROM (I am running BAMF 3.0 R4.9). I just may have solved this issue when you can connect to a WiFi access point!
Using a program called Tasker, I have created specific profiles that actually help save my battery as well as do a lot of other things to make life easier. The learning curve is somewhat steep for non-Tech geeks, but it's not too difficult after you get the hang of it. (I think the only version of Tasker in the market is pay for use, but you can get a free trial from the Dev's website directly.)
On to how I can get a 22+ hour standard TBolt battery:
1st new profile:
-Called "WiFi"
-Context = WiFi Connected (Any SSID)
-Task = NET>WiFi Sleep>Never
2nd new profile:
-Called "Dim Screen"
-Context = Power Source Any, click "Invert" button (so when the phone is not charging).
-Task = Display>Display Brightness>Set to "20" and check "Immediate Effect" (you can certainly change it to something higher, but you may not get nearly the same battery life).
On WiFi, I can get almost 23 hours of battery. On 4G, I can get upwards of 8 hours, 3G I have yet to test.
Since LTE was just turned on near where I live, I noticed that my TBolt was making WiFi sleep while it sat in my pocket not in use, therefor switching to 4G/LTE and draining the battery. The brightness obviously helps when I am not plugged in no matter if I am 3G/4G/WiFi.
I have some other useful profiles setup. Like I have the phone screen go to Auto Brightness and into the Sense Dock Mode when the phone is charging. My favorite is the Car Dock Profile... when the phone goes into my Car Dock, the Bluetooth turns on, GPS goes on, and Google Music Starts.
I am a big fan of Tasker now... there are a lot of possibilities with the program!
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I'm gonna say you might want to try a MUCH more modern ROM. I'm having very little trouble eeking 18 hours out of mine under moderate use, and well over a day if I'm not messing with it much. It will typically consume around 1.7% per hour unused, LTE on.
WorldOfJohnboy said:
OK, so I know there has been a lot of b*tching about the Tbolt battery life, especially if you are running Gingerbread and a Sense 2.1 or 3.0 ROM (I am running BAMF 3.0 R4.9). I just may have solved this issue when you can connect to a WiFi access point!
Using a program called Tasker, I have created specific profiles that actually help save my battery as well as do a lot of other things to make life easier. The learning curve is somewhat steep for non-Tech geeks, but it's not too difficult after you get the hang of it. (I think the only version of Tasker in the market is pay for use, but you can get a free trial from the Dev's website directly.)
On to how I can get a 22+ hour standard TBolt battery:
1st new profile:
-Called "WiFi"
-Context = WiFi Connected (Any SSID)
-Task = NET>WiFi Sleep>Never
2nd new profile:
-Called "Dim Screen"
-Context = Power Source Any, click "Invert" button (so when the phone is not charging).
-Task = Display>Display Brightness>Set to "20" and check "Immediate Effect" (you can certainly change it to something higher, but you may not get nearly the same battery life).
On WiFi, I can get almost 23 hours of battery. On 4G, I can get upwards of 8 hours, 3G I have yet to test.
Since LTE was just turned on near where I live, I noticed that my TBolt was making WiFi sleep while it sat in my pocket not in use, therefor switching to 4G/LTE and draining the battery. The brightness obviously helps when I am not plugged in no matter if I am 3G/4G/WiFi.
I have some other useful profiles setup. Like I have the phone screen go to Auto Brightness and into the Sense Dock Mode when the phone is charging. My favorite is the Car Dock Profile... when the phone goes into my Car Dock, the Bluetooth turns on, GPS goes on, and Google Music Starts.
I am a big fan of Tasker now... there are a lot of possibilities with the program!
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how do you get the GPS to enable? I've tried to set up my GPS to come when I open maps, navigation or anything that needs gps enable but I get "sorry that action is unavailable on this device."
Llama also does what Tasker does. And its free. I find that Llama works better too. I can get near 24 hours with everything stock.
loonatik78 said:
I'm gonna say you might want to try a MUCH more modern ROM. I'm having very little trouble eeking 18 hours out of mine under moderate use, and well over a day if I'm not messing with it much. It will typically consume around 1.7% per hour unused, LTE on.
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Modern? The ROM I have is running Gingerbread and is full Sense 3.0 (which appears to be a big battery hog). When I was on a GB Sense 2.1 ROM from the same Dev, I was getting better battery. The only thing that may improve the battery any more on GB/Sense 3.0 would be a new and improved Kernel, though I think I am on one of the more stable ones.
warmonster said:
how do you get the GPS to enable? I've tried to set up my GPS to come when I open maps, navigation or anything that needs gps enable but I get "sorry that action is unavailable on this device."
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You are right, my bad... it throws up a disclaimer that GPS enabling is not available on any 2.3 ROM because of the Pop-up. They suggest using Cyanogen (sp) if you want to use the feature on a 2.3 ROM.
andydumi said:
Llama also does what Tasker does. And its free. I find that Llama works better too. I can get near 24 hours with everything stock.
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Potato, Patahto. I like Tasker and found it really granular once I started playing with it. I don't mind paying for an app that is well Developed and supported. (If you like Llama that much, you should use the donate version to "thank" the Dev team!) The 23hrs is an estimated capacity right now as Battery Left is still calibrating.
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Modern? The ROM I have is running Gingerbread and is full Sense 3.0 (which appears to be a big battery hog). When I was on a GB Sense 2.1 ROM from the same Dev, I was getting better battery. The only thing that may improve the battery any more on GB/Sense 3.0 would be a new and improved Kernel, though I think I am on one of the more stable ones.
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I think he is refering to roms based off the 2.11 leak. battery life in that Ruu is much better than any other previous ruu. Any roms based off it will give you more life by default. The bamf 4.9 Rom is kinda old when your talking about custom roms and it isn't based on the 2.11 ruu.
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Modern? The ROM I have is running Gingerbread and is full Sense 3.0 (which appears to be a big battery hog). When I was on a GB Sense 2.1 ROM from the same Dev, I was getting better battery. The only thing that may improve the battery any more on GB/Sense 3.0 would be a new and improved Kernel, though I think I am on one of the more stable ones.
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You say BAMF 3.0 R4.9 is your ROM. This ROM is old, based upon the 2.01 GB leak (which is about 4 leaks ago), which was terribly flawed in many ways, and isn't even being developed by BAMF anymore. The newer kernels won't even work right on that ROM because aspects of the WiFi and camera have been changed in later leaks.
You're application of Tasker is probably one of the ONLY rational uses of such an app. Using it for such things as turning GPS on and off is pointless, and redundant, because Android already does that as long as you have GPS enabled. Having it enabled doesn't use any power unless you're using apps that abuse it, such as some of the traffic update apps that constantly update your position.
Power management apps aren't quite as useless as task killer apps, but for the purposes I see people use them for, they're not doing you many favors. I'm generally not a fan of these apps and I strongly recommend against task killers because the result of their use simply increases the amount of NAND reads the CPU must make, which is the most power intensive operation that CPU performs.
Newer ROMs, such as the RUU 2.10 and 2.11 based ROMs, are significantly better on battery life than the older ones, especially when used with the radios from the 1.70 OTA, 2.07 RUU, 2.10 RUU, and 2.11 RUU. I'd make the jump to a more modern ROM before I tried manipulating an older one to perform. Or, move up to a newer one and do the same thing and see what you get. In any event, there's good room for improvement.
I tried several ways to conserve battery and finally decided that it just isn't worth it to me to have to stop running game apps, to have to set the phone up a specific way, to carefully monitor what each app does etcetera. I went out Tuesday and bought a extended battery from a Verizon store. With discount I paid $25.00 for the battery and cover. I am now getting right around twenty five hours total battery life off one charge and I have watched videos, played games, played music, and did whatever else I could think of to kill that battery. I am ecstatic with it. Now when I am out overnight mountain climbing with the missus granted I will undoubtedly kill some apps. Wouldn't do to run into BigFoot, Smokey the Bear, and Jason Vorhies with a dead battery and no chocolate bars ( since she for some reason feels I should diet) now would it?
ps. I made sure it had antennaes on the cover. It has more than my original cover does. And the clerk had no clue why i was even asking about the antenaes on the cover
TDubKong said:
I tried several ways to conserve battery and finally decided that it just isn't worth it to me to have to stop running game apps, to have to set the phone up a specific way, to carefully monitor what each app does etcetera. I went out Tuesday and bought a extended battery from a Verizon store. With discount I paid $25.00 for the battery and cover. I am now getting right around twenty five hours total battery life off one charge and I have watched videos, played games, played music, and did whatever else I could think of to kill that battery. I am ecstatic with it. Now when I am out overnight mountain climbing with the missus granted I will undoubtedly kill some apps. Wouldn't do to run into BigFoot, Smokey the Bear, and Jason Vorhies with a dead battery and no chocolate bars ( since she for some reason feels I should diet) now would it?
ps. I made sure it had antennaes on the cover. It has more than my original cover does. And the clerk had no clue why i was even asking about the antenaes on the cover
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Reps are pretty clueless, in general. They're sales people and that's about it. That's what cracks me up when I see these goofy "corporate memos" that supposedly when out to stores with stuff like RUU and radio version numbers on them. Like the geek behind the counter actually knows any of that???
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Reps are pretty clueless, in general. They're sales people and that's about it. That's what cracks me up when I see these goofy "corporate memos" that supposedly when out to stores with stuff like RUU and radio version numbers on them. Like the geek behind the counter actually knows any of that???
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Yea tell me about it. At the Verizon kiosk in Costco I actually argued with the guy because he was spouting off about the Specs on AT&T phones being better than what were on the Thunderbolt. Saying how much better AT&T was and all this stuff. I listened for only a few minutes before I realized he was an imbecile. He was just throwing out things that made him sound like he knew what he was talking about. And yea you read that right. This brain fart of a human being was promoting AT&T from a Verizon kiosk
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Yea tell me about it. At the Verizon kiosk in Costco I actually argued with the guy because he was spouting off about the Specs on AT&T phones being better than what were on the Thunderbolt. Saying how much better AT&T was and all this stuff. I listened for only a few minutes before I realized he was an imbecile. He was just throwing out things that made him sound like he knew what he was talking about. And yea you read that right. This brain fart of a human being was promoting AT&T from a Verizon kiosk
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Further proving Einstein's point... The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits.
loonatik78 said:
You say BAMF 3.0 R4.9 is your ROM. This ROM is old, based upon the 2.01 GB leak (which is about 4 leaks ago), which was terribly flawed in many ways, and isn't even being developed by BAMF anymore. The newer kernels won't even work right on that ROM because aspects of the WiFi and camera have been changed in later leaks.
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If you can point me to a ROM that has full Sense 3.0 and the latest GB leak, please point me in that direction.
You're application of Tasker is probably one of the ONLY rational uses of such an app. Using it for such things as turning GPS on and off is pointless, and redundant, because Android already does that as long as you have GPS enabled. Having it enabled doesn't use any power unless you're using apps that abuse it, such as some of the traffic update apps that constantly update your position.
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Considering I do use a bunch of Apps that can use GPS (Foursquare, Weather, and my Car Dock=Car Home) and I don't always need GPS on to do what I do in them, I choose to have GPS inactive as to not chew up more battery than is necessary.
Power management apps aren't quite as useless as task killer apps, but for the purposes I see people use them for, they're not doing you many favors. I'm generally not a fan of these apps and I strongly recommend against task killers because the result of their use simply increases the amount of NAND reads the CPU must make, which is the most power intensive operation that CPU performs.
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I have never and will never use a task killer. Tasker is basically a way to create a 'macro' or series of them to help do things without having to click 18 different things on your phone. Apples to oranges.
Newer ROMs, such as the RUU 2.10 and 2.11 based ROMs, are significantly better on battery life than the older ones, especially when used with the radios from the 1.70 OTA, 2.07 RUU, 2.10 RUU, and 2.11 RUU. I'd make the jump to a more modern ROM before I tried manipulating an older one to perform. Or, move up to a newer one and do the same thing and see what you get. In any event, there's good room for improvement.
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As I said, if there is a viable full Sense 3.0 ROM with the latest RUU out there, please let me know what it is. Until that happens, I will use Tasker to fix the flaws that exist in my current RUU/ROM.
loonatik78 said:
You say BAMF 3.0 R4.9 is your ROM. This ROM is old, based upon the 2.01 GB leak (which is about 4 leaks ago), which was terribly flawed in many ways, and isn't even being developed by BAMF anymore. The newer kernels won't even work right on that ROM because aspects of the WiFi and camera have been changed in later leaks.
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Really...newer kernels don't work with BAMF 3.0 RC4.9??? That's funny because I'm running Ziggy's latest on BAMF 3.0 RC4.9 with working WiFi and camera, front and back.
Out of all the 3.0, 2.1/3.0 ROM's this is the only one that I have never missed a call because I could not answer the phone because of the end only call bug.
It might be an older ROM but it's still one of the best for this phone.
UberBAMF, Adrynalyne's side-project BAMF, both of the Gingeritis ROMs, Th3ory's ROMs, Synergy... Where the Ziggy kernel came from. Maybe I'm wrong and 4.9 uses the 2.07 base. I've used nothing but 2.07 and newer Chingy ROMs for the last 2 months as daily drivers and I've never once seen this "end call only" bug.
Ziggy's kernels aren't freely available so I don't consider it an available custom kernel.
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UberBAMF, Adrynalyne's side-project BAMF, both of the Gingeritis ROMs, Th3ory's ROMs, Synergy... Where the Ziggy kernel came from. Maybe I'm wrong and 4.9 uses the 2.07 base. I've used nothing but 2.07 and newer Chingy ROMs for the last 2 months as daily drivers and I've never once seen this "end call only" bug.
Ziggy's kernels aren't freely available so I don't consider it an available custom kernel.
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Anyone that downloads Gingeritis, or Synergy has full access to Ziggy's kernels. I would call that freely available. Either which way they still work on BAMF 3.0 RC4.9.
As for the ROM's you listed not one of them are a full Sense 3.0 ROM like RC4.9.
If you have never had the end only call bug consider yourself lucky because there are theads on both themikmik and team BAMF about this bug.
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End-call only bug is real. In 2 months of running bamf (currently on uber 3), I've encountered it once. Others have been plagued with it. Basically, when someone calls, it only displays the large "end call" button.
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bp328i said:
Anyone that downloads Gingeritis, or Synergy has full access to Ziggy's kernels. I would call that freely available. Either which way they still work on BAMF 3.0 RC4.9.
As for the ROM's you listed not one of them are a full Sense 3.0 ROM like RC4.9.
If you have never had the end only call bug consider yourself lucky because there are theads on both themikmik and team BAMF about this bug.
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I hardly call Ziggy's kernel freely available by any stretch of the imagination. That's like saying iOS is free to anyone to use. Not really if you ONLY get it with this product or that! Ziggy also flouts the GPL like it's no big deal, so obtaining his source is nigh impossible. He's got one of the least available kernels that exists.
Sense 3.0 is eye candy. Like live wallpaper, its cool for a day, that's about it. And Rosie launcher is weak. I mean, if that's your thing, cool. It's your phone. But AOSP roms are far beyond BAMF, and far more stable. Shift B2 is the best rom I've run on my Bolt, hands down. With G+ loaded I get between 18-22 hours moderate use. Without G+ I can get a little over 28 hours. This is all 3G, as our towers havent been upgraded yet here in BFE. I understand the desire for battery life on stock battery. I pocket mine for 8 hours a day, so extended battery is unappealing. I underclock to 768 and my phone is still more responsive than it was with sense at 1.4.
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How do we make a rom with the best battery life? In this thread, we will make it.
Food for thought:
Underclocking
*#*#4636#*#* configurations (wcdma, gsm only, what is best)...}These two will help with the "mobile network" process,
lower gprsclass........................................................}that uses so much in the "battery usage" breakdown in settings
undervolting
wifi scan time
2g networks only
Battery-optimized kernel
NO Swap or Ram Hack or CompCache
ETC.
Anyone have ideas.
I will now list the rom with the best battery life (that i've ever tried)
Htcclay's Superfast 1.3.3
Please post the roms you think have best battery life.
I'm going on a vacation and will not have a charger handy at all times. What is best for me??? contributions are welcome (until we make the ultimate rom discussed in this thread.)
gee the forums are slow today... reserved
enomthers official AOSP 1.6..
i am running superbad cm51.2.3gj4 and i get around 24-30 hours on a single charge
I'm running SuperD 1.11 with SetCPU @ 384/128 and get about 4 days on a single charge. 3 days with heavy usage and 6 days without any data transfer (only sms and sometimes phone calls).
This is by far the best ROM for battery life I've used. Haven't tried Superfast 1.3.3.
Is it possible to undervolt G1s or MT3Gs?
jumped to almost every 2.1 rom out, Chromatics 3.5 being the last 1 and all of them are battery hogs. I was tired of it so decided to revert back to 1.6 roms (htc clays super csdi) and must say that Im staying here..Its much faster and the battery life nearly doubles. and also with ADW launcher, it gives you everything you need besides MT. Again battery is amazing on csdi roms. just make sure you turn off modder cpu and turbo mode in supsetup and use setcpu clocked at 128min 528max..
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jumped to almost every 2.1 rom out, Chromatics 3.5 being the last 1 and all of them are battery hogs. I was tired of it so decided to revert back to 1.6 roms (htc clays super csdi) and must say that Im staying here..Its much faster and the battery life nearly doubles. and also with ADW launcher, it gives you everything you need besides MT. Again battery is amazing on csdi roms. just make sure you turn off modder cpu and turbo mode in supsetup and use setcpu clocked at 128min 528max..
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I agree. Battery life with 2.1 roms is terrible compared to 1.6 roms (which last up to 50% longer).
Something doesn't seem right with 2.1 roms. I hope Froyo will be better.
i really like the idea of a battery-optimized rom for g1/32b.
i also made the experience that 1.6 roms are better in terms of battery life than 2.1 based roms. they also are much faster
btw: the best 2.1 based rom for battery is speedtest 1.2
I agree that the 2.1 roms are all terrble, and that something uniform must be wrong with all of them in order to have ALL of them have such bad battery
wow that was horrible... im tired
I'm glad that many of you are interested in a battery-optimized rom. I'll be trying out SuperD today, but its use of swap is detrimental to battery life... I'll have to see.
Any other suggestions?
shamo42 said:
I'm running SuperD 1.11 with SetCPU @ 384/128 and get about 4 days on a single charge. 3 days with heavy usage and 6 days without any data transfer (only sms and sometimes phone calls).
This is by far the best ROM for battery life I've used. Haven't tried Superfast 1.3.3.
Is it possible to undervolt G1s or MT3Gs?
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that's attractive... are you using ram hack or not? swap/compcache settings?
I remember some of the older 2.1 (Not CM 5 based) roms being not nearly as bad on battery life, like KingKlick's. It wasn't as fast and stable as Cyanogen's, but I remember being able to easily go through a full day and half without needing to charge (with moderate use, and an 8 hour gap of nothing for sleep). Maybe digging some of them up and doing some tests?
MaSt3rGrIfF said:
I remember some of the older 2.1 (Not CM 5 based) roms being not nearly as bad on battery life, like KingKlick's. It wasn't as fast and stable as Cyanogen's, but I remember being able to easily go through a full day and half without needing to charge (with moderate use, and an 8 hour gap of nothing for sleep). Maybe digging some of them up and doing some tests?
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i remember gamercore tweeted about openeclair 1.1 being really good, and i tried it, and it was quite good, but the rom sucked and it was hardly comparable to donut.
jcarrz1 said:
i remember gamercore tweeted about openeclair 1.1 being really good, and i tried it, and it was quite good, but the rom sucked and it was hardly comparable to donut.
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Hmmm, well didn't OpenEclair go up to 2.2.1, before Wes joined CyanogenMod? Do we know what the big difference is between those older roms and Cyanogen's implementation and why there's such a drastic battery (and performance) difference? I always thought it was just lack of drivers and Cyanogen did extensive work to various driver projects to get workable drivers. Would his drivers be the cause of poor battery life? I'm grasping at straws here, but that seems like one of the only things it could be to me.
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that's attractive... are you using ram hack or not? swap/compcache settings?
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No compcache/swap but with ram hack.
2.1 roms are using a lot more ram then 1.6 roms.
With 1.6 I have about 40 to 50 MB of free ram after using taskiller.
With 2.1 only 20 MB. This is just a guess but whatever is using these 20-30 MB of ram might be partially responsible for the battery drain.
If additional battery drain is the nature of Eclair (which clearly wasn't built with our "old" phones in mind) then Froyo might bring some improvement.
shamo42 said:
No compcache/swap but with ram hack.
2.1 roms are using a lot more ram then 1.6 roms.
With 1.6 I have about 40 to 50 MB of free ram after using taskiller.
With 2.1 only 20 MB. This is just a guess but whatever is using these 20-30 MB of ram might be partially responsible for the battery drain.
If additional battery drain is the nature of Eclair (which clearly wasn't with our "old" phones in mind) then Froyo might bring some improvement.
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I've noticed the same thing. 2.2 seems to be better... but jubeh's rom quit apps in the background much quicker than the other guy who compiled from source and posted in this forum (his had no wifi tho, but i liked it better because of memory management)... i don't know what the difference was, but i liked the other guy's froyo rom better.
Back on topic, I still think that 1.6 remains the best rom for battery life.
shamo42 said:
No compcache/swap but with ram hack.
2.1 roms are using a lot more ram then 1.6 roms.
With 1.6 I have about 40 to 50 MB of free ram after using taskiller.
With 2.1 only 20 MB. This is just a guess but whatever is using these 20-30 MB of ram might be partially responsible for the battery drain.
If additional battery drain is the nature of Eclair (which clearly wasn't with our "old" phones in mind) then Froyo might bring some improvement.
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and I heard that 1.10.2 was even better than 1.11 for battery life... (dusty donut as ben called it), is this true? and i can't assess how much changed between 1.10.2 and 1.11 because ben buchacher's changelog is down... somebody help me out here?
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and I heard that 1.10.2 was even better than 1.11 for battery life... (dusty donut as ben called it), is this true? and i can't assess how much changed between 1.10.2 and 1.11 because ben buchacher's changelog is down... somebody help me out here?
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v 1.11 release date : 2010 04 29
Change Log:
-Updated Frameworks and Settings from latest Cyanogenmod Donut tree
-Proxy Settings in Wireless Settings
-WIFI in Airplane mode
-USB Debugging notification option
-5 minute screen timeout option added
-Updated Working Renice script -thanks to merlos
-Media to SD -thanks to merlos
-Exchange Work Email app fixed
-Battery percentage option in SpareParts
-Live Folder FC fixed
-Portrait / Columns bug fixed
-Remove Launcher script – This fixes the battery life.-thanks to merlos
– from terminal type remove_launcher then the one you want to remove nexus or stock
—-EXAMPLE: remove_launcher stock
-Other Crap
Maybe the claim that 1.10.02 has better battery life is because of the "Battery percentage option in SpareParts" Some people think it drains the battery. For users of 1.11 I recommend to disable it (Settings -> Spare Parts -> Battery Status Display)
I would like to add something about RAM hack... Some games don't appear as "3d" but still need that RAM. As I remember running a 3d game on a ROM with the RAM hack would drain your battery horribly fast and make the game horribly laggy. Well some games can handle the lag, but still destroy battery life.
r3s-rt said:
I would like to add something about RAM hack... Some games don't appear as "3d" but still need that RAM. As I remember running a 3d game on a ROM with the RAM hack would drain your battery horribly fast and make the game horribly laggy. Well some games can handle the lag, but still destroy battery life.
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I think the main idea about this thread/rom is to make a rom for the g1 that makes for great battery regardless, so ram hack could be an option that will be disabled for this rom.
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I think the main idea about this thread/rom is to make a rom for the g1 that makes for great battery regardless, so ram hack could be an option that will be disabled for this rom.
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I know what the thread's about, silly. But RAM hack has a great chance of just destroying the whole "better battery life" aspect and I don't think there's really a way around that, that's all I was trying to say.
If you do end up making a ROM with crazy good battery life, I'll definitely keep it around for vacations. I made the mistake of going on vacation with a 2.1 ROM - my phone lived for two days out of a week (and that's with charging every chance I got) so I'm all for you. =]
Cognition v3.04 + Speedmod latest version + JL3 modem
Simply put: amazing. Several things are worthy of note. First, scrolling and general responsiveness of the speedmod kernel with 500hz is buttery smooth. It also has several tweaks you can enable to maximize battery life. But, the greatest difference came with the JL3 modem. Everything was instantly snappier. GPS locked in 4 seconds flat (I kid you not), and soon had 12 locked satellites. I had never before seen a lock with 5m accuracy, and it held it like a champ. Second, DL/UL speeds went through the roof. Normally I'd see 1.5Mb D and .3 Mb up. Now I see 3.5 Mbit down and 1.4 Mbit down. Couldn't be happier. But it gets better. The battery voltage before showed 3950 millivolts. Now it's down to 3750 mV.
Better GPS, speed, internet and battery life? Awesome.
Have you tried to make a phone call? I had the same setup and thought I was on cloud 9...
Until I called my wife... She said, "it sounded like gremlins were trying eat me". So after a process of Modem flashing I've come to find that FOR ME is Cogs 3.04/Speedmod/UGHJK4 seems to be working good all around, except for my battery life isn't the greatest. Gonna give it a couple days to see if it pans out
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FOR ME is Cogs 3.04/Speedmod/UGHJK4 seems to be working good all around
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I use Darkys rom but find that for my area JK4 has been the best so far as well. With JL3 it switches to the 1900 band frequently and in my house that gets worse reception so my battery drains fairly quickly.
As for the OP I know how you feel. Ever since I flashed an earlier version of Darky's I haven't looked back. It's been the best rom I've tried out of all of them. Despite being a complete flashing addict I've hung up the cable for the time being as I'm more than satisfied with my current set up.
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Until I called my wife... She said, "it sounded like gremlins were trying eat me".
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Totally off topic, but that has to be THE BEST quote I have seen on this forum!
Back on topic, best combo and my current configuration is Perception 8 with Setiron's kernel. Just flashing the rom and the kernel gives me all working features that I need, plus speed and stability. And after I go through and take out all the apps that I don't use and incorporate all my necessary apps, I get around 54 hours of battery life before I need to throw it on the charger. That's with my normal everyday use consisting of mass amounts of texting, a few phone calls, browsing the web, and having 3 widgets running. All my syncing is set for 1 hour intervals, except for weather which is set for every half hour.
Not saying it will work the same for you, but it hasn't let me down at all, and it's been my daily driver for about 2 months.
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Have you tried to make a phone call? I had the same setup and thought I was on cloud 9...
Until I called my wife... She said, "it sounded like gremlins were trying eat me". So after a process of Modem flashing I've come to find that FOR ME is Cogs 3.04/Speedmod/UGHJK4 seems to be working good all around, except for my battery life isn't the greatest. Gonna give it a couple days to see if it pans out
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I thought I was ****tin in high cotton too til I tried to make a call with JL3 it just don't cut it for me either, handset volume was way too low and people said I sounded like I was in a well with a tornado.. JK4 is better all around for me too.
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Totally off topic, but that has to be THE BEST quote I have seen on this forum!
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Its a true story... Lol
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Another Vote here for Darky's 9.02 with SpeedMod "Q" Kernel. I presently have the JT3 Modem and haven't had any complaints except I was at a friend's house yesterday and had a problem holding a Signal there,I might try a different Modem.
Firefly 2.0.5 w/ eSPyel oc/uv kernel based on Hardcore's q kernel with jk4 modem.... i have it oc'd at 1400... results may vary on diffrent phones... but this thing is blazing fast been hitting low 19's on linpack scores and battery is good....
Had my Desire S a couple of months now on o2 in the Uk and really like it ,impressed with the speed so was wondering,would rooting it really make it much better?
Mate is banging on about doing it , but want to weigh up the benefits and possible pitfalls (apart from obviously bricking it) and also the best way of going about it .
I had a friend who just bought it too! He is new to Android and he loves it already..
Anyway, it's really up to you understand if rooting your phone will be useful, if you are happy like this, you could wait until you will be more confident with Android, or until you will need an extra power (by overclock your CPU for example).
In general a rooted phone with a custom ROM is faster that a stock one, and it doesn't have all the bloadware that HTC put on it.
You will be able to update your radio to improve the signal (and maybe fix the famous issues with it), overlock your CPU, install apk that allows you to back up your system, clear cache, customize your android in the deep, and so on...
The downsides could be the lost of your warranty and a small possibility to brick your phone...
But again is entirely up to you, regarding myself, I rooted my phone as soon as I bought it last year, happy since then!
Yes, it's definitely worth it. You can get the impeccable sense 3.0, a blazing fast 1.7 Ghz processor, and a ton of customization. BUT, YOU MUST KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING ! If you mess with the wrong stuff,you can permanently brick your device. Also, flashing is a little complicated, so do it only if you're comfortable with hacking.
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a blazing fast 1.7 Ghz processor
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Wow, battery must me draining at incredible speed !
sadly though without the xtc clip i don't see much of a chance for rooting becoming available on the desire s.
I was fortunate to have a soff phone. Till now the advantage of root I have take is by installing market enabler which let's me download apps currently not available in my region. Secondly I was able to install titanium backup to back my whole phone.
Now I am looking into roms and how to go around it. I am a total android noob with this one bring my very first experience.
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Wow, battery must me draining at incredible speed !
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Yes, at 1.7 ghz , battery life is low. But, you dont always need 1.7 ghz. 1.5 ghz or even 1.2 ghz is much faster than stock.
Cheers for the advice but I suppose the point is rather moot until I get S-off
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a blazing fast 1.7 Ghz processor, and a ton of customization. BUT, YOU MUST KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING !
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As i had to return my Desire (the old one) due to overheating and rebooting under heavy use (for example navigation) without having it overclocked, I surely don't want to force these problems with overclocking.
Does anyone use the Desire S for navigation on a regular base? I am really interested if those reboot problems still exist. I am sure overclocking isn't very good for the hardware on a long term.
If you can use the power only for benchmarks then its only about e-peen comparison How about a watercooling mod
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As i had to return my Desire (the old one) due to overheating and rebooting under heavy use (for example navigation) without having it overclocked, I surely don't want to force these problems with overclocking.
Does anyone use the Desire S for navigation on a regular base? I am really interested if those reboot problems still exist. I am sure overclocking isn't very good for the hardware on a long term.
If you can use the power only for benchmarks then its only about e-peen comparison How about a watercooling mod
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I've had it reboot once sure to overheating whilst using navigation. It was on a very hot day though. Several things you can do to stop it too.
Take out out any case.
Have your car air fans on low, and directed at the phone. Just get some air movement around it.
If you have root, underclock when using navigation.
If like me you are on Orange and SICK of the poor 3g service, buy an off line navigation app. I just got copilot and it's very good, and doesn't put half the strain on the phone. Did a two hour journey with it, and it only used 20% battery! That would have flattened it using google.
I think google maps has just updated to be more efficient in navigation and use less power, but haven't put it to the test though.
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As i had to return my Desire (the old one) due to overheating and rebooting under heavy use (for example navigation) without having it overclocked, I surely don't want to force these problems with overclocking.
Does anyone use the Desire S for navigation on a regular base? I am really interested if those reboot problems still exist. I am sure overclocking isn't very good for the hardware on a long term.
If you can use the power only for benchmarks then its only about e-peen comparison How about a watercooling mod
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Hello, I have been using the Desire S for just over two months by now and have used navigation extensively for long periods of time (5 to 10 hrs on a row). Here are my observations:
- first of all, the phone required a reboot just once during all this period and it had to do with some stupid automatic download/update from Google. I wanted to stop it but pressed the wrong (and many at the same time) buttons. The phone just resested itself from the blue but came back to life normalul afterwards;
- the reset had to do with Googlemaps but navigation was not on;
- otherwise I use IGO, works flawlessly;
- overheated, under direct sunlight beneath the windshield; solved the problem by positioning the unit next to the air/AC
- at night, the temperature (measured by Battery indicator pro,) never rose above 39 celsius so I say there aren't any overheating issues there.
I'm an Android virgin but i must say, yes.
I'm finally receiving my MyTouch 4G Slide today. I was just curious how the performance is? Is the stock ROM worth wild? Does anybody play N64oid, or PSoid on there phone? If so, how's the performance? Also a personal stand point whats your favorite ROM?
I want to try out the Port of CM7, but Sense 3.0 is pretty neat. If anyboyd is running a Sense 3.0 Rom, or CM7 would they recommend it?
cm7 > sense
The Sense that the MT4GS is vastly superior to previous versions of Sense, but I'm still waiting for a viable release candidate of CM to come out.
Your battery drains pretty fast with 3d games, and if you charge while you play, your phone gets hot as hell, I recommend rooting so that you can keep it underclocked as much as possible while you play. Gaming performance is good enough that you don't need full cpu power
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...as I sit here in my car waiting for my shift to start, i'm playing Castlevania: Symphony of the Night on Fpse. You can find it in the google market, and if you have any old ps1 games laying around it's worth every penny.
Works great, when i'm at home I plug the phone into my t.v. and play it that way. If anything I think it runs more smoothly when plugged into the t.v. - the audio syncs just a bit better with the same settings.
Checked my email and figured i'd cruise through here real quick before they let me in to get started.
Haven't had a chance to play with n64oid, I don't have any n64 games around anymore so I passed that one by.
About the stock ROM:
Horribly bloated, full of crap, loggers and other BS...you can find the info in a few threads around here.
If you decide to stick with the stock ROM, freeze, uninstall or kill the zipwhipgroups apk and also flash Undeadk9's security patch. Those two actions should close all known security flaws to date.
I've played with all the ROMs available, and they all offer something fun approaching the phone from different angles.
Play with them and i'm sure you'll find something (honestly...anything) better then the stock ROM.
My daily-driver keeps ending up being my own frankenstein, and once i'm basically out of a job when december hits i'm looking forward to mostly finishing it off.
Performance-wise the phone is fantastic. Even on the bloated bogged down stock ROM it still flies, and once you start flashing some of the more optimized ideas people have shared with us, you'll be even more impressed with it.
Make sure you hit up the battery thread floating around here to see why you should switch away from the stock HTC battery. I use an anker battery, and couldn't be happier - but you should see what siani_8 has to say about the Mugen batteries. Pricey, but apparently worth it. I found my anker battery for just a few bucks on amazon.
The stupid stock battery gets ( to quote another members apt description ) "Stupidly hot". Heat is death for a device like this, and whether you go with a mugen or anker, you should switch for sure if you're going to get into gaming or pushing the devices limits...otherwise you'll burn it up.
Just make sure to cruise through my backup thread, link in my sig, before you go flash happy. It'll probably make life easier for you in the long run, and it's a good review even if you're already familiar with it's contents.
Always happy to see new faces around, and you'll love the device. Best of luck!
Thank you all I read a lot about the battery issue. Considering getting one, but I might just run at 800mhz. I'm coming from a G1, and iPhone 3G. This thing fly's! But I'm having another issue, I can't root. Everything is set up right. But Rev. hangs on Zerging Root?? Or is it supposed to do that? I haven't rooted in a good 3 years. Any help is good help ;D
Also all the Emulators work, even the super buggy NDS one. I kept all my older games so I have the "Legal backup". But the games that needed the expansion pac run slow with sound on. But there on http://slideme.org/ if anybody want's them.
I'm a bit lost on performance with the MT4GS. In all my testing so far I have been getting my best benchmark score with stock rom and stock kernel without overclocking. I've tested with multpile benchmark apps and consistantly get lower scores using custom roms and kernels even while overclocked up to 1.7 Ghz. The whole thing has me baffled at this point. Using quadrant advanced I average 2100 range with all stock, compared to 1800 average using custom and overclocking. To add to my confusion, my original mytouch 4G with single core is averaging 2800 in quadrant while only overclocked to 1.1 Ghz.
I must be doing something wrong, by all rights the slide should be scoring much much higher.
Does anyone have any ideas why I'm getting my bizarre results?
Thanks much everyone.
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Usually benchmark scores that are lower are better.
Not always, but in most cases this is true.
Quadrant didn't support dual-core processors, or well, or something if I remember right. I mostly ignored it when I was benchmarking things not long ago - wasn't working right on our phone.
Say what you like about Sense, I'm not a fan of proprietary junk either, but they have the camera right on this one. There's zero shutter lag, and the camera has the features and response of a mid priced point & shoot. It's one of the best cameras in any phone, and would sell for a nice price even if there were no phone attached. And that is largely because of the Sense framework on the back end.
Because of that, I highly recommend UndeadK9's Senseless ROM. This ROM is an AOSP themed ROM but he has kept the Sense framework on the back end, but only where it benefits us. He is very sensitive to issues with the ROM and responds to (i.e. usually fixes) them very quickly. And he posts on here as if he doesn't have a life.
If you use his ROM tip the man, he deserves it.
With quadrant i was getting better scores from my mytouch 4G, but if it is only using one core then the odd results make much more sense.
One thing that has had me confused is with custom roms and kernels on the slide, when I run benchmarks, my scores are about the same regardless of being overclocked or running stock.
Based on the scores, it looks like overclocking is having no effect. I can say that there are definitely performance increases with the slider regardless of what the benchmarks say.
I did try UndeadK9's new rubix rom, so far I'm very impressed.
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Imo there is nothing wrong with the stock rom. It has very few bugs and my phone scores 4650 on antutu. I was one of the first people to get the phone, online pre, and I got the anker battery. The new security update from tmo also gave me better 4g signal. I have only three gripes with the phone.
1. It doesn't run at 1.5ghz which it is fully capable of
2. You can't name homescreen folders
3. There is no true favorites
If you want the phone just to run cm7 vanilla don't buy the phone and get a newer gx2
Wondering if there's a difference in speed when using Bubby's root method versus the ACE hack kit. I rooted my phone about a year ago, my GF just did hers a couple weeks ago, and I could swear there's a difference between the two handsets, though they're both Inspire 4G's. Just curious to know if there's anything to my observation, or if it's a case of things always taking longer when you're waiting for them, rather than when you're the observer.
What specifically takes longer on one than the other.
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What specifically takes longer on one than the other.
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Oh, say for example things like opening and closing the app drawer, switching between apps, and general interface operations. I also find that my Favorites dialer widget tends to refresh a lot, particularly after a call - the icons will reload. That might be a different issue, but figured I'd mention it.
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Probably speed difference due to what's installed on the phones. Number of apps. Type of SD card (maybe) things like that. It seems that the more I flash and change stuf on my pho.e the slower it gets. So I've started doing Full Wipes every few weeks. Even to my SD card taking everything off and only putting back what I actually use. It realmseems to help a lot. Also I've noticed that when a dev makes a full wipe zip for the Rom, that it works better when doing that along with the full wipe option you get with 4ext
Hope I helped
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Oh, say for example things like opening and closing the app drawer, switching between apps, and general interface operations. I also find that my Favorites dialer widget tends to refresh a lot, particularly after a call - the icons will reload. That might be a different issue, but figured I'd mention it.
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That different issue may be associated, as it sounds like you may be suffering from a bit of lag. Have you tried running quadrant tests for comparison purposes? Not all Inspires will perform exactly the same. My wife's Inspire has always gotten a slightly better signal than mine, while my GPS has always performed better than hers. There will be variances with processor as well, although it should be minor.
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Let's not forget about ROMs. They all perform differently, too.
If you config them IDENTICALLY and yours is slower, then the proc/emmc may be inferior to what's in your wife's device. It's not unlike pc parts, you could have two kits of matching ram and one won't oc as well as the other. Same for processors too. Q6600 G0 SLACR will generally oc better than most other Q6600's.
Well, they're the same machine - Inspire 4G's, though I bought mine in March of last year from AT&T, she got hers in red from Target just about three months ago. The idea of variances between CPUs makes sense, though. Just figured I'd ask, since I hacked using Bubby's method and she used ACE, so I thought that might have made a difference.
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Well, they're the same machine - Inspire 4G's, though I bought mine in March of last year from AT&T, she got hers in red from Target just about three months ago. The idea of variances between CPUs makes sense, though. Just figured I'd ask, since I hacked using Bubby's method and she used ACE, so I thought that might have made a difference.
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Also manufacturers make plenty of changes throughout a product's life. Small revision changes that may reduce cost, increase stability, boost performance, sometimes lower performance. As long as it is not running 'poorly' then small differences are expected just with the enormous list of variables. Just take the faster phone and give her the slower one!
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Oh, say for example things like opening and closing the app drawer, switching between apps, and general interface operations. I also find that my Favorites dialer widget tends to refresh a lot, particularly after a call - the icons will reload. That might be a different issue, but figured I'd mention it.
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It could always be the rom. To compare better, you both need the same rom and version. With the app drawer, maybe you have the app drawer able to cache, and she doesn't? Just a guess.
Could be updated parts on her phone. I remember when I had my HTC Tilt when it came out then my sister had hers replaced a little bit before it was removed from the market and it was significantly faster than mine flashed with a ligh rom designed for speed.
Not exactly sure about this, but one would have to assume that battery charge levels could have an effect on the speed of the device and it's process speeds. the battery stays at nearly the same voltage during the charge cycle, but does begin to roll off as the battery power declines.
It could be said that decreased battery power would have a forced undervolt effect depending on it's level of charge, thus slowing down the device as it discharges.
Or....It's quite possible I'm full of crap, and have no Idea.
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Not exactly sure about this, but one would have to assume that battery charge levels could have an effect on the speed of the device and it's process speeds. the battery stays at nearly the same voltage during the charge cycle, but does begin to roll off as the battery power declines.
It could be said that decreased battery power would have a forced undervolt effect depending on it's level of charge, thus slowing down the device as it discharges.
Or....It's quite possible I'm full of crap, and have no Idea.
If you agree with the last sentence, please hit the thanks button out of pity....g
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There's a voltage regulator in there maintaining the supply to the phone. The voltage you read in any battery monitor app is the voltage of the battery. The regulator should be feeding about 3.3-3.5v from that source, so once the battery drops below those levels, things die off. You are right, as supply voltages drop the phone wouldnt function at it's full potential, there is just circuitry providing the proper levels regardless of the battery's voltage.