Maybe i am wrong but it looks like there is something weird with 2d/interface performance of my Sensation.
Currently i am running latest Hypersensation with latest Faux's kernel (ADW Launcher) and i have tested a lot of other ROMs and launchers..but on all of them i am getting nonsmooth interface. Kinda laggy.
I mean, in sense, everything is fine (in the meaning of that word, not supersmooth but fine), but when i try Zeam launcher's drawer (with 6x6 grid) which is superlightweight it gets laggy. In ADW (6x4) it's laggy too. In Go Launcher not too much but i am still not happy. And it's the same with Launcher Pro.
And effected homescreen - switching is not smooth at all. I even tried overclocking my cpu, but it didn't help.
Before some time, by sensation has fallen on the floor by left down corner (and now i have deep scratch on the external casing) - could it damage by cpu in any way? I hope not
I am getting scroll lags in some apps (twicca), new twitter app (released today) is laggy as hell (when pulling to refresh, to be accurate) and new facebook.
However in games it's fine and i am getting around 12000 native cf-bench score with overclocked (1,5 Ghz) CPU, so this is indicating that there is no damage to CPU.
Maybe i am too demanding, but this performance in ui (which you are using most of the time on phone) is not what i expect from 1,2 Ghz DC phone.
Is anybody out there experiencing similar issues? Anyway to fix them? Thanks in advance, guys!
I have attached twitter video...30 fps via screen recorder high quality settings:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_mnEz9tl3E
I suggest using a Sense rom, they tend to have better performance, but switching launchers. The guy who makes HyperSensation also has a no sense rom, try it out, it's really fast and smooth. As for ADW, get ADW Launcher EX, ADW just plain sucks, but EX is very fast.
Before some time, by sensation has fallen on the floor by left down corner (and now i have deep scratch on the external casing) - could it damage by cpu in any way? I hope not
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As long as it's still running, I doubt it. These phones dont have any moving parts, so it's not like you busted a cooling fan or anything. You're not the first to bring performance concerns to the Sensation. And frankly, I've noticed it too sometimes. At times I feel like I'm using my G2, but the good news, ICS will have a GPU accelerated UI (like the iPhone does) so performance should greatly improve soon, hang in there brother.
Thanks, i forgot to mention that i have used all launchers mentioned above with sense rom, with sense disabled via app manager (frozen) and e. g. mentioned zeam sucked. But iwill give ADW EX a try..especially when it costs 0,1 euro
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1350492
There's that non-sense rom I recommended. ADW EX is definitely worth the money, you'll notice an instant performance difference over the standard ADW. The only thing thats laggy about it (on any phone) is if you set a transparent drawer, since it's not GPU accelerated, that'll half your FPS. Hope it goes well for you, it's a shame that even with Sense disabled, you're seeing problems.
Edit: Have you tried either the Faux or Bricked kernels?
Thanks for tip with ADW Ex, it is totally smooth now Zooming animation still isn't perfect (when going from homescreen to appdrawer) but its ok. I have never thought that EX is this big performance improvement.
Funny thing is, I have the same issue. I changed the zoom duration to somehting like 300 or 350, speeds it up so it doesn't look as bad, but I can't find a solution. Atleast EX is running good though.
Hello there! I was in the same boat with my sensation. Unhappy with the seemingly laggy interface of my new 2core phone. So I rooted to reverted aosp with 1.7 kernel and this is about as snappy as I wanted it to be from the start , I'd suggest trying it out
I have something to add. I tried multiple Sense and No-Sense roms, and that homescreen to appdrawer animation is perfect on all of them. I flashed the bricked kernel, but I'm pretty confident that that's no required to get that animation smoothed out.
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Hi, Im new here, this might be my first post as I dont remember setting up an account but I guess i did cause I could login.
I was just wondering if anyone else liked having a low res screen? I do myself because games run smoother and the battery drain isn't as great. I run taxing programs too like emulators.
I haven't noticed any light bleed. I was getting reboots though. I took someone's advice and unistalled tmobile apps with titanium backup. That seemed to fix it. After it was working I played around with some cyanogen builds but they don't quite seem ready for 24/7 use. Im currently on the leaked tmobile gingerbread 2.3.3.
I am coming from an N900 and do not like the way Android multitasks, but thats as far as my complaints go. I ran android on n900 thru nitroid so I knew what I was getting.
I am curious about an oveclocking kernel and if it is compatible with stock tmobile 2.3.3 (the leaked gingerbread).
I like simple themes so I thought Id show a screenshot of mine. There's no scrolling. Its only 1 page. Set to fast mode with ADW launcher. Using clockr widget, widgetsoid, and some widget besides stock music player I get this with a wallpaper from the HD wallpaper app.
The angry birds icon, nes icon, and folder icon open folders to android games, emulators and programs respectively. I think the icons I used are the glass sense ADW theme if i remember correctly
Read my launcher review thread. Launcher Pro runs the best on the G2x out of Go, ADW and Zeam. Its even smoother than the stock launcher and much more smoother than ADW.
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My battery lasts longer than my low resolution G1, so it's not the battery drain that gets me. I've been sticking with the default resolution on this thing because I can type crazy fast with it. If I increase the density, I start getting mistypes.
I always swapped back and forth between ADW and Launcher Pro back in the day, but with the G2x I find myself sticking with the default launcher.
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My battery lasts longer than my low resolution G1, so it's not the battery drain that gets me. I've been sticking with the default resolution on this thing because I can type crazy fast with it. If I increase the density, I start getting mistypes.
I always swapped back and forth between ADW and Launcher Pro back in the day, but with the G2x I find myself sticking with the default launcher.
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I meant more so the stock resolution vs. a super amoled screen. Higher res and larger screen means more battery used especially considering its got tegra under the hood.
I'm finally receiving my MyTouch 4G Slide today. I was just curious how the performance is? Is the stock ROM worth wild? Does anybody play N64oid, or PSoid on there phone? If so, how's the performance? Also a personal stand point whats your favorite ROM?
I want to try out the Port of CM7, but Sense 3.0 is pretty neat. If anyboyd is running a Sense 3.0 Rom, or CM7 would they recommend it?
cm7 > sense
The Sense that the MT4GS is vastly superior to previous versions of Sense, but I'm still waiting for a viable release candidate of CM to come out.
Your battery drains pretty fast with 3d games, and if you charge while you play, your phone gets hot as hell, I recommend rooting so that you can keep it underclocked as much as possible while you play. Gaming performance is good enough that you don't need full cpu power
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...as I sit here in my car waiting for my shift to start, i'm playing Castlevania: Symphony of the Night on Fpse. You can find it in the google market, and if you have any old ps1 games laying around it's worth every penny.
Works great, when i'm at home I plug the phone into my t.v. and play it that way. If anything I think it runs more smoothly when plugged into the t.v. - the audio syncs just a bit better with the same settings.
Checked my email and figured i'd cruise through here real quick before they let me in to get started.
Haven't had a chance to play with n64oid, I don't have any n64 games around anymore so I passed that one by.
About the stock ROM:
Horribly bloated, full of crap, loggers and other BS...you can find the info in a few threads around here.
If you decide to stick with the stock ROM, freeze, uninstall or kill the zipwhipgroups apk and also flash Undeadk9's security patch. Those two actions should close all known security flaws to date.
I've played with all the ROMs available, and they all offer something fun approaching the phone from different angles.
Play with them and i'm sure you'll find something (honestly...anything) better then the stock ROM.
My daily-driver keeps ending up being my own frankenstein, and once i'm basically out of a job when december hits i'm looking forward to mostly finishing it off.
Performance-wise the phone is fantastic. Even on the bloated bogged down stock ROM it still flies, and once you start flashing some of the more optimized ideas people have shared with us, you'll be even more impressed with it.
Make sure you hit up the battery thread floating around here to see why you should switch away from the stock HTC battery. I use an anker battery, and couldn't be happier - but you should see what siani_8 has to say about the Mugen batteries. Pricey, but apparently worth it. I found my anker battery for just a few bucks on amazon.
The stupid stock battery gets ( to quote another members apt description ) "Stupidly hot". Heat is death for a device like this, and whether you go with a mugen or anker, you should switch for sure if you're going to get into gaming or pushing the devices limits...otherwise you'll burn it up.
Just make sure to cruise through my backup thread, link in my sig, before you go flash happy. It'll probably make life easier for you in the long run, and it's a good review even if you're already familiar with it's contents.
Always happy to see new faces around, and you'll love the device. Best of luck!
Thank you all I read a lot about the battery issue. Considering getting one, but I might just run at 800mhz. I'm coming from a G1, and iPhone 3G. This thing fly's! But I'm having another issue, I can't root. Everything is set up right. But Rev. hangs on Zerging Root?? Or is it supposed to do that? I haven't rooted in a good 3 years. Any help is good help ;D
Also all the Emulators work, even the super buggy NDS one. I kept all my older games so I have the "Legal backup". But the games that needed the expansion pac run slow with sound on. But there on http://slideme.org/ if anybody want's them.
I'm a bit lost on performance with the MT4GS. In all my testing so far I have been getting my best benchmark score with stock rom and stock kernel without overclocking. I've tested with multpile benchmark apps and consistantly get lower scores using custom roms and kernels even while overclocked up to 1.7 Ghz. The whole thing has me baffled at this point. Using quadrant advanced I average 2100 range with all stock, compared to 1800 average using custom and overclocking. To add to my confusion, my original mytouch 4G with single core is averaging 2800 in quadrant while only overclocked to 1.1 Ghz.
I must be doing something wrong, by all rights the slide should be scoring much much higher.
Does anyone have any ideas why I'm getting my bizarre results?
Thanks much everyone.
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Usually benchmark scores that are lower are better.
Not always, but in most cases this is true.
Quadrant didn't support dual-core processors, or well, or something if I remember right. I mostly ignored it when I was benchmarking things not long ago - wasn't working right on our phone.
Say what you like about Sense, I'm not a fan of proprietary junk either, but they have the camera right on this one. There's zero shutter lag, and the camera has the features and response of a mid priced point & shoot. It's one of the best cameras in any phone, and would sell for a nice price even if there were no phone attached. And that is largely because of the Sense framework on the back end.
Because of that, I highly recommend UndeadK9's Senseless ROM. This ROM is an AOSP themed ROM but he has kept the Sense framework on the back end, but only where it benefits us. He is very sensitive to issues with the ROM and responds to (i.e. usually fixes) them very quickly. And he posts on here as if he doesn't have a life.
If you use his ROM tip the man, he deserves it.
With quadrant i was getting better scores from my mytouch 4G, but if it is only using one core then the odd results make much more sense.
One thing that has had me confused is with custom roms and kernels on the slide, when I run benchmarks, my scores are about the same regardless of being overclocked or running stock.
Based on the scores, it looks like overclocking is having no effect. I can say that there are definitely performance increases with the slider regardless of what the benchmarks say.
I did try UndeadK9's new rubix rom, so far I'm very impressed.
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Imo there is nothing wrong with the stock rom. It has very few bugs and my phone scores 4650 on antutu. I was one of the first people to get the phone, online pre, and I got the anker battery. The new security update from tmo also gave me better 4g signal. I have only three gripes with the phone.
1. It doesn't run at 1.5ghz which it is fully capable of
2. You can't name homescreen folders
3. There is no true favorites
If you want the phone just to run cm7 vanilla don't buy the phone and get a newer gx2
I can't take credit for any of the work here, I just modded the framework-res.apk and twframework.apk so that I could use the standard Gingerbread sliding tab lockscreen on my favorite ROM GingerClone. Thanks goes out to the Platypus Dev Team and everyone else involved in making this. The KJ2 Locks Mod does in fact work on GingerClone AS WELL AS OTHER ROMS, but it replaces a large portion of the theming elements of the UI with the ones from Glorious Overdose. I fixed this by modding the frameworks.
Call me crazy, but I'm a big fan of the standard Gingerbread interface, even on my old phone running CM7, I used the standard theme.
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-- Landscape tabs don't match portrait tabs
The only thing I've noticed so far is that the landscape lockscreen tabs do not match the portrait lockscreen tabs, but since the phone screen needs to be OPEN and locked for you to ever see this screen it shouldn't be a big deal. I've torn through the res files and can't seem to find the landscape lock tabs, so unless they're not images and are actually hard coded, I can't figure out where they're at. Maybe the dev could point me in the right direction?
Once again, I can't take credit for ANY of this. I just modded the work created by other people.
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Thanks man! So I'm assuming we have to flash this? And how are you getting a 2300+ score on quadrant? I tried tegrak and even at 1.1 it was freezing up my phone and doing the 1vib followed by 3vib when it didn't freeze it up.
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Thanks man! So I'm assuming we have to flash this? And how are you getting a 2300+ score on quadrant? I tried tegrak and even at 1.1 it was freezing up my phone and doing the 1vib followed by 3vib when it didn't freeze it up.
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try 1.2, that normally is pretty solid.
See I tried 1.2 but it froze even faster, and that's why I tried to downgrade to the 1.1
My q score suprised me too! First of all, it's the ROM. GingerClone is the only fully de-touchwized ROM available currently and it amazes me how well this device performs on a close to vanilla Android OS (especially for Froyo! I can only imagine that this phone would FLY with Gingerbread or ICS)
I OC'd using Tegrak to 1.125Ghz. Any higher and the system locks up on my phone regardless of ROM or kernel, but if I buy the full version of the app, I'm pretty sure I could get at least 1.4Ghz with overvolt. In the past I've noticed that especially refurbished phones can have issues with overclocking. My first LG Optimus could EASILY overclock up to 800+ Mhz stable, but I bricked it and the replacement they sent me was a refurb that couldn't handle more than 730Mhz and be stable.
But the real magic lies in using the latest version of V6 supercharger. I set mine to Aggressive 2. I had to run Quadrant a couple of times because I thought it was a glitch or a fluke the first time it broke 2000.
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Thanks man! So I'm assuming we have to flash this? And how are you getting a 2300+ score on quadrant? I tried tegrak and even at 1.1 it was freezing up my phone and doing the 1vib followed by 3vib when it didn't freeze it up.
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yeah, I forgot to mention that (figured it was self explanatory). You flash it in recovery.
I just flashed GingerCloneV2, I have not overclocked or supercharged, and my quadrant score was 2025. I ran it twice to be sure it wasnt a fluke. My phone has never even approached 2000 before. The highest score I have gotten prior to GC was 1695. This rom is crazy fast. Never would have imagined a rom based on kd1 could be this fast, considering the fact that supposedly kj2 is the most stable. I just flashed this, so I cant say if this rom is stable or not yet, but I hope it is. If it stays this fast AND its stable, then I wont even worry about overclock or supercharge.
yea same here, ran quadrant on stock gingerclone and got a 1950 and was like "whaaaaaat" its pretty awesome.
have tried supercharging it, with update 9 (and maybe thats where i'm going wrong), and after about an hour it begins to do the 1 buzz followed by 3 quickfire buzzes endlessly, and i'm forced to reinstall Gingerclone. do you guys think its because i should use update 8 for supercharger? its still blindingly fast though
edit: oh and i was wondering if there was some way to take that stupid "update social network" thing from the notification bar with this lockscreen mod? because it takes away the option under the display portion of the settings.
Thanks for the heads up on the lockscreen mod disabling the social status thing. Personally, I always left it on because when you turn it off you lose your power widgets in the drop down too. I know there are widgets that do the same thing, but aside from my launcher and the Google search widget I leave my desktop clean.
I'll have to look into the original framework from gingerclone and merge some of the code with the one from the lockscreen mod. I have some exams to study for this week, but I'll try to get around to it.
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try 1.2, that normally is pretty solid.
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assuming you're running the free version of Tegrak which only changes CPU clock, for the majority of SK4G phones running at 1.2Ghz will actually result in a net loss in performance over 1.1Ghz. Without upping the voltage along with the clock speed, the processor actually begins to encounter errors.
I run into the same thing on my PC. I can safely overclock to 3.0Ghz, and I'm more than capable of overclocking to 3.2, but performance rapidly degrades any higher than 3.01 Ghz without overvolting. At 3.0Ghz, my Geekbench score is around 6500, whereas at 3.02 it falls to under 3000, and at 3.2 it's at about 1200 (if you've never used Geekbench it uses a baseline score of 1000 which is equal to a 2005 PowerMac G5 dual core, and doubling the score means doubling the performance).
If I bump the voltage up from 1.25 to 1.3v, I can overclock even higher than 3.2Ghz, but my computer doesn't have adequate cooling for that and it overheats within about 5 minutes.
So as you can see, faster clock speed doesn't necessarily equate to having a faster phone, the exact opposite can be true. Overvolting would most definitely result in a performance spike, but keep in mind that there IS NO COOLING on a cell phone, not even a heat sink. Excessive heat can very rapidly damage your phone or even break it. Another thing to consider is that not all silicon is created equal especially when you're talking about CPUs.
Look at Intel for example, they sell the EXACT SAME cpu set at different clock speeds as a Celeron, Core2duo and Core2Extreme based on how the individual chip performed on a bench test. This is why overclocking is actually possible. sometimes you get lucky with a well manufactured CPU, and sometimes you end up with a dud that can barely perform at the clock speed it's rated at.
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Thanks for the heads up on the lockscreen mod disabling the social status thing. Personally, I always left it on because when you turn it off you lose your power widgets in the drop down too. I know there are widgets that do the same thing, but aside from my launcher and the Google search widget I leave my desktop clean.
I'll have to look into the original framework from gingerclone and merge some of the code with the one from the lockscreen mod. I have some exams to study for this week, but I'll try to get around to it.
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alright, cool. its not a make or break thing for me, i dont mind it that much. but thanks for even saying you'll try!
Hello guys
I am posting my experience for Extreme Sensation Power2 ROM. it may help others before flashing, and I would really like it's developer to read it and modify the negative things.
First it's an awesome ROM, very stable, and light on the device, doesn't eat much of the RAM.
99% of everything works perfect without crashing or anything.
Nice look and great customization.
Apex Launcher is great and well integrated to the system.
The -ve stuff I saw was:
The Calendar, crashes when I add accounts.
The battery is eaten up so fast!!! incredibly fast actually.
Touch scrolling all around is not smooth/elastic enough, my Stock ROM was better in scrolling.
I cannot flash Beats Audio, the DSP crashes if I did.
I cannot notice that my device got actually more powerful.
Overall rating: 8/10.
My experiance with that ROM is that its a KANG of CM - read the last 4-5 pages of the thread.
My SGN10.1 was idling at about 1.1 ghz memory. That seemed very high to me and my tablet was feeling sluggish. Couple things I did to improve things:
1) Limited background processes to 3 in Developer section. Have not noticed any FC's or other problems as a result.
2) Went back to good old LauncherPro launcher (wallpaper works MUCH better).
3) Loaded up the new Dolphin Beta Browser (its MUCH faster than Dolphin and blacks look better).
Now my idle memory is under 700 and everything is just quicker.
YMMV. Give it a try and report back your memory results.
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I don't mind having slightly higher frequency but I really hope jelly bean will smooth up the choppy touch wiz, esp when u have widgets