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Captivate or the HTC Desire?

Rogers said they are getting the captivate soon, and Telus announced that they are releasing the Desire tomorrow ($449 no contract)
Im debating on which i should get. I've wanted the HTC desire for ages, but i heard the captivate has a better processor?
Any ideas?

yeah captivate wins out on hardware wise, but desire already has good development going on if i'm not mistaken. Dev's are still working on the ins and outs of the galaxy s series.
If you're willing to learn a bit about android and change some settings, i recommend the captivate by far.
If you want a good out of the box experience i think the desire may be better for you?

zoltrix said:
Rogers said they are getting the captivate soon, and Telus announced that they are releasing the Desire tomorrow ($449 no contract)
Im debating on which i should get. I've wanted the HTC desire for ages, but i heard the captivate has a better processor?
Any ideas?
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Captivate
Pros
-Bigger, better SAMOLED screen. Better multitouch sensors = better multitouch experience.
-Arguably the fastest SOC (CPU + GPU combo) available on the market right now
-16gb on board storage, supports up to a 32gb storage card.
-Swype keyboard pre-installed
-Thinner, sleek form factor
Cons
-No camera flash
-Samsung TouchWiz vs HTC sense (subjective)
-No indicator LEDs
You can't go wrong either way, but with the exception of the camera flash, the Galaxy S/Captivate has superior hardware.

I sold my Nexus One to buy the Captivate and you couldn't pay me to go back. Sure the N1/Desire has better dev support but with CM and Froyo coming to the Galaxy series there isn't a huge need. Not to mention the fact that the Galaxy is going to sell FAR more units than the N1/Desire so the devs will come. The media support of the Captivate alone is worth the switch and the true multi-touch display is a godsend coming from the buggy N1 screen. I do miss the notification trackball on the N1 more than I thought. Let me know if you have any specific questions, I've owned both.

I posted this same topic on teh Desire board, and someone said that the cpu's are similar, but the gpu in the captivate is much better, which is pretty obvious in that quake 3 demo video that's been floating around alot.
But i dont really plan on playing any games.. i mean if i had the captivate, id definatly ahave an intence game on it just to show off to my friends, but i dont plan on sitting there playing a game.
Also, camera flash isnt a big con really, but its nice to have. The LED indicator on the other hand is a must have ever since i had my bb curve 8310. I got an htc magic now and i miss that blinking red light like crazy. I know the captivate has some app to use a random pixel buthaving teh real deal is always better imo.
custom interface (touchwiz vs htc sense) isnt a big deal sincei can probably just put a desire rom on the captivate and vice versa..
I dont know. I guess ill wait for the pricing from Rogers for the captivate. IF its something stupid (which it probably will be) then ill get the Desire.
Also, if i get the desire, ill ahve to worry about unlocking it, which i know nothing about..

Rogers will launch the Captivate at pretty much the same price as the Desire and Vibrant.

novaIS350 said:
Cons
-No camera flash
-Samsung TouchWiz vs HTC sense (subjective)
-No indicator LEDs
You can't go wrong either way, but with the exception of the camera flash, the Galaxy S/Captivate has superior hardware.
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The camera on the Captivate takes some fantastic night shots without flash. Flash also has limited range. Its better to brighten up an entire image rather just focusing a spotlight (LED) on a certain area of the photograph.

so i guess its stupid for me to get teh desire? it's just simply out dated now?

The Captivate and Desire may seem similar on paper but processor speed being equal does not make the processors equal. Is an AMD processor running at 2ghz the same as an Intel processor running at 2ghz? The answer is no.
The Captivate processor is the same processor in the iPhone 4 with a better (but same type) GPU. This is why the other post stated that the Captivate has the best SOC (system-on-a-chip) currently being sold.
The Captivate is not without it's bugs but those will get worked out. I have always been the type to look for potential and not just out-of-the-box. Once we get Froyo on this device it is going to be incredibly "Captivating." LOL (yes, I know that was corny)

I'm having serious doubts about my Captivate. I have yet to hear anything from Samsung about when or IF they will fix the GPS issues. I never realized how much I relied on GPS and just took it for granted when I'm looking for shortcuts cutting through the city, etc. But this phone can't ever find me. And when you are driving down a road at 50 mph and need to decide where to turn next, you need a phone that can find you within seconds, not through up a blue area that you MIGHT be in.

I'm reading this topic over on HowardForums and i get the feeling like the Captivate is the better phone..
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1661669-HTC-Desire-or-Samsung-Galaxy-S
but then i read this post:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...e-or-Samsung-Galaxy-S?p=13949855#post13949855
I already have major call dropping issues with my HTC magic and it's driving me nuts. I dont want a phone with problems

I just checked at a Telus store, if you are planning on buying the Desire to unlock and use on Rogers the price becomes $599. The $449 price is only the buy out price for using on an existing Telus plan.
I'll be waiting for Rogers to release the Captivate I guess...

Switch33 said:
I just checked at a Telus store, if you are planning on buying the Desire to unlock and use on Rogers the price becomes $599. The $449 price is only the buy out price for using on an existing Telus plan.
I'll be waiting for Rogers to release the Captivate I guess...
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for real?!
thats not fair :|

http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...g-directly-from-Telus?p=13952973#post13952973
He bought it outright, is on rogers, and paid hte regular 449

Switch33 said:
I just checked at a Telus store, if you are planning on buying the Desire to unlock and use on Rogers the price becomes $599. The $449 price is only the buy out price for using on an existing Telus plan.
I'll be waiting for Rogers to release the Captivate I guess...
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That's BS. Goto BB or FS and buy it outright. I swear some cellphone dealers are worse than used car salesmen, either by choice or ignorance.

another Galaxy S for ATT: Samsung Infuse

interesting specs
http://phandroid.com/2011/01/05/att...e-4g-with-4-5-inch-super-amoled-plus-display/

It comes with the second latest android software with an update available sometime in the next few years. Sound familiar?

It's good for Captivate owners that Samsung is producing basically another Galaxy S.

Specs are great on paper, but given the combination of nonfunctional gps, and samsung and att's refusal to release updates for my captivate, I'll be telling everyone I know to steer away of both att and samsung.

kingtz said:
Specs are great on paper, but given the combination of nonfunctional gps, and samsung and att's refusal to release updates for my captivate, I'll be telling everyone I know to steer away of both att and samsung.
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agreed.... Samsung can scratch my ass...
I should be getting my Dell Streak with froyo preloaded any day now. Giving the wife the craptivate.

all these new phones announced. forget about software updates for the old ones.

F""""" that!
im getting me the new motorola Atrix 4g with a dual core,1 GB of RAM and a HUGE 1930mAh battery .
http://pocketnow.com/android/motorola-atrix-4g-on-att-dual-core-cpu-quarter-hd-resolution

1.2 ghz ONE core? wow. we want your dual core orion, samsung.
2.2 froyo? 2.3 please. yeah upgradable to 2.3 right? how long this time?
The specs are kinda on par to Samsung Galaxy S2, so it sounds kinda real, but it has horrible specs compare to other dual core phones.

Display is Super AMOLED Plus(ugh..) which have RGB in one pixel not current pentile.
By itself, this phone can be super awesome and will silence apple fanboys.

nightfox11 said:
im getting me the new motorola Atrix 4g with a dual core,1 GB of RAM and a HUGE 1930mAh battery .
http://pocketnow.com/android/motorola-atrix-4g-on-att-dual-core-cpu-quarter-hd-resolution
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but Samsung phones come with free gift!! Motorola does not! Samsung phones come with free gift, free fake GPS!

htc evo 4g is being released under att with a different name.

I'm trying to decide between the Motorola Atrix and the HTC Inspire. Will likely depend on what gets root'd faster.
This is a weird feeling... A choice of phone to buy? On AT&T?! [email protected]@#$

I don't see a lot of captivate users going back to buy another samsung phone.
Well at least for me, I won't.

MikeyMike01 said:
I'm trying to decide between the Motorola Atrix and the HTC Inspire. Will likely depend on what gets root'd faster.
This is a weird feeling... A choice of phone to buy? On AT&T?! [email protected]@#$
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I'm leaning toward The Atrix (Olympus), HTC still not letting go of the kickstand, lol.

The only thing I will try to pull is exchange my phone for the htc inspire when it comes out.
any ideas i do have insurance and have been a in good standing customer for 4 years.

Xstop said:
I'm leaning toward The Atrix (Olympus), HTC still not letting go of the kickstand, lol.
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I don't mind a kickstand...

Why on earth would anyone pick an Evo rehash over the dual-core Moto?
Of course, my bet is that only the Samsung isn't locked down.
Swyped from my Voodoo-powered Fascinate via XDA

MikeyMike01 said:
I don't mind a kickstand...
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Certainly not a deal breaker, but I just see it first to go (broken) the way I am with phones
I hope AT&T starts rolling out these new phones soon.

Waiting for more specs like RAM and internal memory. Hope Samsung will not act miser and cripple it with less RAM.

Back to the OP, sorry..
With those rumored specs, I would say that's not really huge leap on the upgrade path.
Samsung already sold 10 million Galaxy S phones, I don't see any significant changes in there phones until numbers shows they need an upgrade. They are making so much fxxxxxx money on the "Galaxy S" line it's sick! And you think they care about the gps...

Buy sensation or wait for Hercules

Is sensation really good ? Does it have problems like g2x ? I have mytouch 4G now. Not sure to wait for Samsung Hercules or get HTC sensation ? What would you guys do ? Please share

Obviously asking this question in the Sensation forum is going to be biased toward the Sensation. I'd get the Sensation....but I'm not you and don't know your situation.
Sent from either my N1, NS, or Sensation4G....

sofia-captivate said:
Is sensation really good ? Does it have problems like g2x ? I have mytouch 4G now. Not sure to wait for Samsung Hercules or get HTC sensation ? What would you guys do ? Please share
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I have the G2x and the Sensation and while they both have tremendous potential they both have multiple issues. I would wait for Hercules as I am going to sell one of the two or both and purchase the Hercules.

buy or wait?
There will always be a newer/better phone that will be out within 3 days, 3 weeks, 3 months of buying your next phone. You have to ask yourself a different question, which phone will have the features I need and will really use? If you are simply holding out for the best phone right now you will be disappointed and frustrated and not fully happy with your next purchase. I love the Sensation. I waited for months to get it and I am happy with my purchase. I have always rooted my android phones to use unavailable features on stock phones like; the wifi tethering with my laptop and tab. This is already built in and available the moment you buy it. ATT and Sprint and Verizon charge for this feature. BOOOOO! Good for T-Mo while it lasts. The phone is responsive, comes loaded with useful apps and widgets, it's sexy and fun to play with I have Netflix working on it (so do many others, I did not invent the wheel), hbo-go, and other streaming apps that work great on the sensation. The camera is decent enough for me not to carry a dedicated camera for photos and videos. For me, I use multimedia daily, and this phone meets my needs. I was buying every new phone that came out and was never satisfied. The sensation is a good buy, the hercules will be out in the next 2-3 months and by then there will be another phone with even better specs that will leave you drooling. I am sure it will be a great phone too.

I was really excited about the announcement of the Hercules and besides the GPS problem, I loved my Vibrant(wife has it now). But IMO, as nice as Sammys designs are(I don't like the design of the Sensation) they make the bezel too big.
My sensation is just as big as my Vibrant even though it has a 4.3 inch screen. I've always hated the added real estate which is why I chose the Sensation over the gx2. If the infuse is any idication of how big the Hercs going to be, I might pass on it and see what comes out next year. Besides, I love the weight of my HTC. I hated how light my Vibrant was even though that thing was literally indestructable.

First off ask yourself the question cause only you can decide ,if you like bland vanilla and super amolded screens then go with Samsung, if you like widgets and eye candy then sensation is the one ....all phones with this much horsepower have issues and I mean all ,once bootloader is unlocked on sensation you'll have the speed to go with the looks ,and if you're not interested in flashing then you still got a great device , but like mentioned earlier after the Hercules there will be something better 3 months later ,it will never end

simply put:
4.3" qHD >>>> 4.5" WVGA

So far all of the information leaked about the Hercules shows that its not using the exynos soc. Just some food for though. The waiting game does suck though because something better will come out after the Hercules. That's just the way it is.

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So far all of the information leaked about the Hercules shows that its not using the exynos soc. Just some food for though. The waiting game does suck though because something better will come out after the Hercules. That's just the way it is.
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Yep, it's rumored to be using the APQ8060, which is the same as the MSM8260 without the integrated HSPA radio. This is probably because the Hercules will have 42 Mbps HSPA+ connectivity and it will need a separate radio for this and that the Exynos SoC is already in limited quantity (some SGS II variants will have the Tegra 2).

xnifex said:
simply put:
4.3" qHD >>>> 4.5" WVGA
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Which I why I got the Sensation. Pixel density FTW.
Cannot wait for the HTC unlock. Need to cleanse bloatware.

I love the resolution on this phone. Can't go wrong with qHD, it makes the Sensation that much more beautiful.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App

I won't go with a Samsung again after having the vibrant. Samsung is the slowest company to come out with updates.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App

The killer feature on the Hercules is that 42mbps speed. The usb radios that are out are getting speeds that rival Verizon's LTE.
On the down side (for me) is that with a 4.5 inch screen and that Samsung bezel it is going to be a huge phone - nudging into small tablet territory. Battery life will also be tricky.
At the moment I'm not willing to trade a great svelte HTC design for a faster Sammy slab. But we'll see when it comes out.
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Given some of the deals we've seen for the Sensation... I'd definitely lean in that direction. 4.5" is pushing it for me, and the qHD is nicer than I originally thought it would be.

I hope there will be good support from the community with custom Roms.. How are the chances for that to happen?

The Sensation is like the Desire... huge Dev support
It is a great Phone and there will be as much People like in the Desire section ... so much support from the Dev´s
The Sensation is just great! I would never take a samsung instead of an HTC.... Sense is too great and the bigger Resolution is so nice! You feel it very much and movies are just wow on this phone! And the Sound! Great!
Just a Multimedia Talent..... I would not wait if i am able to use this phone! I will never miss something like this phone!
Just great! There are little mistakes but Touch Wiz ist just crap!

DoogieDC said:
The killer feature on the Hercules is that 42mbps speed.
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Although it will technically be capable of those speeds, I doubt it will come anywhere near those speeds. The sensation should be able to hit 11Mbs theoretically but the fastest i've had it download was 7.9Mbs. I'm sure the Hercules will be closer to 11Mbs speeds in real world.

anjahl said:
I won't go with a Samsung again after having the vibrant. Samsung is the slowest company to come out with updates.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App
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They just updated half their Android line up to 2.3.4 in the past two months. They've updated the SGS2 four times and a fifth update to 2.3.4 is due out by the end of the month. There's a difference between getting updates directly from Samsung and having to be dependent on your U.S. carrier to get them out. The global Sensation's are being updated now. Let's see how long it takes T-Mobile to push the U.S. update.

Paging Dr B said:
Although it will technically be capable of those speeds, I doubt it will come anywhere near those speeds. The sensation should be able to hit 11Mbs theoretically but the fastest i've had it download was 7.9Mbs. I'm sure the Hercules will be closer to 11Mbs speeds in real world.
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It should get 20 mbps with ease if you're in an area that supports that connectivity. T-Mobile demonstrated those type of speeds using a data stick.

soon there will be a samsung amoled hd screen soon and thats my new phone.

Is The Samsung Galaxy Epic Touch a worthy upgrade?

Do you guys think the Galaxy S2 is a worthy upgrade from the nexus s because I have the choice to get one right now and wanted to know you guys opinion?

Hardly seems worth it since you'll be switching to a phone running an older version of Android. The Nexus S is still a fairly competitive phone even with year old hardware.

the situation i'm in is either get a new phone now or wait 2 more years with the nexus s. Does that change things?

Well I have the epic touch 4g and it's amazing, now with that said I just got my gf a nexus and put ics on it it also is amazing. The epic is the only upgrade I see and it's worth it but your not gonna get ics for another month or more. Now with calks rom, desparado kernal, and ics theme I love it more than anything (except a galaxy nexus).
If you can get one for not too much money I would say yes as the nexus while it's great with ics and glades kernal it's still not perfect, it's almost there but ics is still early.
Either way each option is good so I say go for the epic touch or wait and pray and hope sprint gets the galaxy nexus because that is the only phone I can see myself leaving the epic for. And once the epic gets ics the epic in some ways is really better.

My wife's gs2 (epic 4g touch) blows my nexus s 4g away. There is no comparison. After owning it, there are no regrets. I have nexus owners that admit it is a very nice phone lol.
When u look at the camera, battery life, size, CPU, gpu...the list of **** it actually does, built in screen shot, can connect Bluetooth keyboard/mouse, HDMI via mhl adapter...
I have played w ics and plenty of ics roms for my ns4g, owned plenty of phones and the gs2 on sprint is arguably one of the best phones I have ever touched, no pun intended.
My ns4g just feels slow in comparison.

Go try a dual core device at Sprint to get a better idea of the differences. I found the most obvious differences in scrolling rich web pages, doing other stuff while updating apps, using the device during TB backups, etc.
Don't forget, you also get a huge increase in ram, screen size, and even notable boost in battery life (YMMV) . ICS won't be available for a while, so keep that in mind as well.
I have two Epics and two Epic Touches.. one of the latter is new if you want to trade for your NS +, cash

isn't the epic touch wimax? Not late? I'd wait for an lte device.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk

adamw1101 said:
isn't the epic touch wimax? Not late? I'd wait for an lte device.
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Yes but sprints network rollout is worthless. I have heard about rev b since October yet no one has posted it actually being functional. Maybe by 2013 or 14.sprint spent so much on iPhones seems like they can't put new towers up, all the while Verizon is bringing 4g to way more places w the aggressive rollout.

Android phones suggestion

Hi,
I was thinking on buy a new android phone.
My Milestone is getting old and I was thinking on get a HTC MyTouch 4g, and would like to know if someone could suggest another phone with similar specs. I was wondering to pay in a $250-$300 gsm unlocked.
What do you suggest?
Thanks!

extrem0 said:
Hi,
I was thinking on buy a new android phone.
My Milestone is getting old and I was thinking on get a HTC MyTouch 4g, and would like to know if someone could suggest another phone with similar specs. I was wondering to pay in a $250-$300 gsm unlocked.
What do you suggest?
Thanks!
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Would you like to buy USED phone?Then you can buy used Senation which is a Dual core,ICS running device.Not only Sensation,but also have some used dual core phone.
OR
You just wanna a MyTouch 4G?Me too currently using MyTouch 4G.I love it..haha.I dont think that you can find Brand New Mytouch 4G.But check eBay first..

Hmmm. I really prefer new ones. I found some for $282... refurb for 238.. But I'd like more suggestions like this phone, can be maded by other brands. I saw Sensation and it costs a bit more.
I saw Galaxy S but I think mytouch 4g is a few better, and galaxy s is a more expensive.

I wouldn't go for a refurbished phone if I were you. I prefer paying a little more and not having to worry about anything.
Maybe you could take a look on a Nexus S (not Galaxy Nexus), all my friends have great experiences with their devices.
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Hmmm... Galaxy Nexus S seems to be a nice phone really. But it's a bit expensive than mytouch 4g. Nexus S used is the same price of a Mytouch4g new.
I don't know mobile processors, but the speeds are the same and Mytouch4g has a bit more ram memory (768mb x 512mb), but it has a better screen (S AMOLED vs LCD)
Don't know if high memory is needed, but maybe I'll consider an used nexus s.
Thanks!

Hello,
Personally i would suggest the HTC Incredible S or the Samsung Galaxy 2.
The Incredible S isn't that expensive anymore and with newer software things are working very well. However, it has just a single core 1 ghz processor but the camera and storage capacity are very nice.
The one i prefer is the Samsung Galaxy S2. Because of the new S3, i think that this current device will lower in price and it has a dual core processor!
Good luck,
Greetings Arjan

Personally i would suggest the HTC One S ATM. Beautiful, smooth, aggressive and .. HTC. Good compromise in my opinion

Thanks for your suggestions. I think these phones are still expensive to my wallet. Maybe I'll wait to see if prices will be lower or get the Mytouch 4g. Maybe wait a month to see if prices get lower.