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HTC Incredible, EVO 4G or Nexus One ?

I am currently with tmobile and ordered a Nexus One without a contract... So now I got to thinking: I like the Incredible and EVO 4G...but is it worth getting a whole new contract on Verizon (1 Or 2 Years) or Sprint (2 Years only) ? I am kind of stressed out about this -it is a headache for me, I just want to get something I will be happy with...
I had the HD2 and returned it (not enough suitable games for the hardware...so I decided to move to android)....
So I think my two most reasonible options are to:
+ Stay with Tmobile and keep my Nexus One until something else comes along compatible with TMobile USA... (I am paying about 140.00 a month w/ 3 lines unlim texting for all...and unlim data for two lines... plus 1000 minutes, and free mobile to mobile)
+OR Sign up with a 1 Year verizon contract...
(now mind you, I will be paying @ least 90 to 109$ a month for an individual plan and keep the other two phones on tmobile until their contract expires...will be about 90 a month for Tmobile after this). So all in all costs = about 190 a month to get the incredible...
I know the pros and cons of the phones pretty much:
EVO 4G:
+ 4g, 4.3" LCD screen, front facing camera (nice but I dont think I may use it much), hdmi out, better multitouch hardware than N1
Incredible:
+ OLED 3.7" screen (same as N1?),8GB onboard + 2GB micro w/ verizon, optical 'track ball' ,also better multitouch hardware than N1
N1:
+ trackball ?(a neg for me actually), nothing else above the others that I can see....
sorry if this is a stupid thread...just asking for your advices/ideas/thoughts...please help me make a decision....Thanks for your time...

any ideas?

Stay with the Nexus & no contract...I think your going to really like it's performance! If not, then you can try the others not on GSM...

Well my .02 for what it is worth would be keep the N1, the Incredible while seemingly better is a slight upgrade from the N1 imo... I heard the onboard 8GB of memory cannot be used to install applications on, and one review (Engadget) said a lot of things couldn't even see the memory... The Nexus One is a great phone, and I just got mine for AT&T; give it a go first!
But the incredible doesn't seem too hot for me, I hear VZW is going to LTE and what-not soon! However the Evo 4G does look really cool, but it is on Sprint. It seems like keeping the N1 is economically feasible and you won't be disappointed, or at least I haven't!

glitzbd said:
Well my .02 for what it is worth would be keep the N1, the Incredible while seemingly better is a slight upgrade from the N1 imo... I heard the onboard 8GB of memory cannot be used to install applications on, and one review (Engadget) said a lot of things couldn't even see the memory... The Nexus One is a great phone, and I just got mine for AT&T; give it a go first!
But the incredible doesn't seem too hot for me, I hear VZW is going to LTE and what-not soon! However the Evo 4G does look really cool, but it is on Sprint. It seems like keeping the N1 is economically feasible and you won't be disappointed, or at least I haven't!
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Thanks for BOTH of your responses...
I do like the N1...nice sleek and small...just makes me think when I hear about the EVO 4G and the Incredible having the better multi touch...
also that 8GB would be nice to have instead of just 4GB with the n1, also VZW will be giving a 2GB memory stick with it so that is 10GB of usable storage (somewhat usable)...
I guess the N1 is a better choice since I also still have the option to upgrade my phone at any time, hopefully Tmobile will come out with some better phones than the HD2 some time soon -I am sure there will always be better phones, but its just a matter of if they will support the TMobile USA bands...otherwise I may have to switch companies...
I also like the Optical trackball...I think it would have a longer life than the actual trackball...but on the EVO I do not like the LCD screen, the AMOLED screen is much nicer...

The N1 is also the first device to receive an official upgrade to Froyo (and let me guess also future versions). For the others you have to rely on HTC.

I would get the nexus purely for its XDA support

Badwolve1 said:
I would get the nexus purely for its XDA support
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Not to be insulting, but have you noticed there is A LOT of support for A LOT of phones here on XDA ??

erebusting said:
Not to be insulting, but have you noticed there is A LOT of support for A LOT of phones here on XDA ??
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I don't see why the HTC Desire would get LESS support than N1. The N1 has just been around a bit longer so you probably find more support but I guess this soon changes. In the end both are HTC devices and will receive equal support, probably Desire with even more support thanks to Sense UI included....

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Not to be insulting, but have you noticed there is A LOT of support for A LOT of phones here on XDA ??
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Its OK, my bad, i meant out of the devices that were listed, Xda seems to be a GSM device forum (?), i expect the desire, legend and many other GSM phones to be supported here, by default i thought that you go to the PPC website for CDMA (Please, correct me if i'm wrong, i'm in the UK so we only have GSM here )

Thinking about getting a new phone, but which road do I take?

With the SGS II not coming to Canada anytime soon, Im looking for a different android phone to play around with and probably end up keeping in the long run. I was dead set on getting an Atrix purely for the power of the phone and the lapdock accessory, after seeing most of the reviews saying that I was better off getting an actual laptop for the same price and could do far more itself, Im kinda leaning off the Atrix trail atm. So I was thinking about either the Nexus S or the HTC Incredible S. Or should I still go ahead with the Atrix (Even though that pretty little bootloader still aint unlocked)?

PearsonDKA said:
With the SGS II not coming to Canada anytime soon, Im looking for a different android phone to play around with and probably end up keeping in the long run. I was dead set on getting an Atrix purely for the power of the phone and the lapdock accessory, after seeing most of the reviews saying that I was better off getting an actual laptop for the same price and could do far more itself, Im kinda leaning off the Atrix trail atm. So I was thinking about either the Nexus S or the HTC Incredible S. Or should I still go ahead with the Atrix (Even though that pretty little bootloader still aint unlocked)?
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go for nexus s.u will love it

PearsonDKA said:
With the SGS II not coming to Canada anytime soon, Im looking for a different android phone to play around with and probably end up keeping in the long run. I was dead set on getting an Atrix purely for the power of the phone and the lapdock accessory, after seeing most of the reviews saying that I was better off getting an actual laptop for the same price and could do far more itself, Im kinda leaning off the Atrix trail atm. So I was thinking about either the Nexus S or the HTC Incredible S. Or should I still go ahead with the Atrix (Even though that pretty little bootloader still aint unlocked)?
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Skip the Atrix as the software (and Motoblur) is terrible - the hardware is amazing, but it feels crippled by the crappy software, The HTC Incredible S is a nice phone, IMO it doesn't excel in any one category, but overall is a pretty good device. Note that if you are into modding, the Incredible S has a locked bootloader and root still has not been achieved on it for the Bell version.
The Nexus S is pretty good, but is missing a couple of things I like (LED notification light and an SD card slot), but it is a stock Google phone and should be great for modding. I'm currently on a SE Arc - overall, I think I prefer it to the Incredible S and the Nexus S.
BTW, some of the UK sellers are now selling the Galaxy S II if you want to pick one up.

rajeshr said:
Skip the Atrix as the software (and Motoblur) is terrible - the hardware is amazing, but it feels crippled by the crappy software, The HTC Incredible S is a nice phone, IMO it doesn't excel in any one category, but overall is a pretty good device. Note that if you are into modding, the Incredible S has a locked bootloader and root still has not been achieved on it for the Bell version.
The Nexus S is pretty good, but is missing a couple of things I like (LED notification light and an SD card slot), but it is a stock Google phone and should be great for modding. I'm currently on a SE Arc - overall, I think I prefer it to the Incredible S and the Nexus S.
BTW, some of the UK sellers are now selling the Galaxy S II if you want to pick one up.
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So they would ship it across seas? :O
Also the HTC is the one I'm leading more towards ATM because when it comes to the camera on a phone, its some what a deal breaker for me.
Roaming the forums on the XDA app.

PearsonDKA said:
So they would ship it across seas? :O
Also the HTC is the one I'm leading more towards ATM because when it comes to the camera on a phone, its some what a deal breaker for me.
Roaming the forums on the XDA app.
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Yes, they would. Check out clove.co.uk and expansys for more information.
If the Sensation has the same camera (8 MP) as the Incredible S, then I would suggest that you look at alternate camera's. While it's great to have a 8MP camera, the Incredible S camera is not as good as some of the other 8MP camera's.
Personally, I would lean towards the Galaxy S II!

i'd go with the nexus s

rajeshr said:
Yes, they would. Check out clove.co.uk and expansys for more information.
If the Sensation has the same camera (8 MP) as the Incredible S, then I would suggest that you look at alternate camera's. While it's great to have a 8MP camera, the Incredible S camera is not as good as some of the other 8MP camera's.
Personally, I would lean towards the Galaxy S II!
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If anything ill wait till the prices go down for the sgs II lol. $900 seems a tad pricey at the moment. I might go with the attic cause of the whole dual core.
Roaming the forums on the XDA app.

PearsonDKA said:
If anything ill wait till the prices go down for the sgs II lol. $900 seems a tad pricey at the moment. I might go with the attic cause of the whole dual core.
Roaming the forums on the XDA app.
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I think the SGS II costs about $680 (GBP440), not $900.
Anyway, I found the software on the Atrix bad enough to sell it a couple of months into ownership. There are a few issues on the Rogers/Fido network with the Atrix - e.g. capped upload speeds (max 384kb upload), issues with displaying Caller ID with name and issues with wifi hot spots. The hardware is amazing, but I wish I could install HTC Sense on it (never going to happen due to a locked bootloader).
It's your call in the end, but maybe it's better to wait for the prices to come down.

rajeshr said:
I think the SGS II costs about $680 (GBP440), not $900.
Anyway, I found the software on the Atrix bad enough to sell it a couple of months into ownership. There are a few issues on the Rogers/Fido network with the Atrix - e.g. capped upload speeds (max 384kb upload), issues with displaying Caller ID with name and issues with wifi hot spots. The hardware is amazing, but I wish I could install HTC Sense on it (never going to happen due to a locked bootloader).
It's your call in the end, but maybe it's better to wait for the prices to come down.
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Yea was doing a bit more research on the Atrix and found out that issue as well. When you say $680, that canadian or US? The cappy i have right now, got someone to buy it for $500. So I guess forking out $200 more shouldnt hurt.

I will go for Incredible S. Why? Just preference. What I normally do is if you really can't decide, head to the shop and try the feel of the phone.
If you are leaning towards hardware and stuff, then of course would need more advise on those who had hands on experience with it.
Just my 2 cents.

Kinda thinking about grabbing a SGS 2. Just trying to find out if there's gonna be an issue ordering it to Canada and through who.
Roaming the forums on the XDA app.

PearsonDKA said:
Kinda thinking about grabbing a SGS 2. Just trying to find out if there's gonna be an issue ordering it to Canada and through who.
Roaming the forums on the XDA app.
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I ordered the SGS2 through Clove, but you can also choose Handtec or Expansys.

I would pick the Nexus. That thing is faster stock than you're ever going to need it. SGS2 seems like a good pick but so did the first Galaxy S phones before they came out.

thegnargnarshredder said:
I would pick the Nexus. That thing is faster stock than you're ever going to need it. SGS2 seems like a good pick but so did the first Galaxy S phones before they came out.
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SGS I with ROMS is much faster than Nexus S stock based on quadrant (not sure if true in actuality).

What do you think about HTC Aria...

nexus s for sure.

what about Thunderbolt

rajeshr said:
I ordered the SGS2 through Clove, but you can also choose Handtec or Expansys.
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Ill check whichever has the better deal. Gonna grab a case, screen protector and the MHL cable along with the phone.
thegnargnarshredder said:
I would pick the Nexus. That thing is faster stock than you're ever going to need it. SGS2 seems like a good pick but so did the first Galaxy S phones before they came out.
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The Nexus S I moved on from. Camera quality wasn't all to enjoyable.
Orikon said:
SGS I with ROMS is much faster than Nexus S stock based on quadrant (not sure if true in actuality).
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To true. This Cappy is hitting the 2500's in AnTuTu.
asmeena said:
What do you think about HTC Aria...
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Never heard of it =X
wooddale said:
what about Thunderbolt
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I don't think it's gonna work on Rogers bands.

Captivate to atrix

As above
I'm getting a straight trade +100~
Would out be worth it? Sounds nice......but.....its locked down and still only on froyo :/
Swyped from my gingerfied captivate

What its a straight trade +100~?
If you are getting atrix plus $100 then there is your answer, but if you are throwing in $100 with your captivate then no its not worth it.

Jemack said:
What its a straight trade +100~?
If you are getting atrix plus $100 then there is your answer, but if you are throwing in $100 with your captivate then no its not worth it.
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throwing in 100 with my captivate
can I ask why is it not worth it to you?

droid_does said:
throwing in 100 with my captivate
can I ask why is it not worth it to you?
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I hava an Atrix and a Captivate. I love both phones. He is right though, its not worth it. I would say that you should wait, hold off a few months and wait for the SGS II. AT&T has a variant coming sometime this year, and with the rollout of their LTE network starting this summer, you have to imagine that the SGS II would be a great canidate to be one of their 1st LTE enabled phones (that's personal opinion, not based on any verified info). Aside from that, the performance differences between the two phones is noticable, but not DRASTIC. Having actual, working GPS is nice, and some of the other features are cool, but honestly I would say wait.

10tonhammr said:
I hava an Atrix and a Captivate. I love both phones. He is right though, its not worth it. I would say that you should wait, hold off a few months and wait for the SGS II. AT&T has a variant coming sometime this year, and with the rollout of their LTE network starting this summer, you have to imagine that the SGS II would be a great canidate to be one of their 1st LTE enabled phones (that's personal opinion, not based on any verified info). Aside from that, the performance differences between the two phones is noticable, but not DRASTIC. Having actual, working GPS is nice, and some of the other features are cool, but honestly I would say wait.
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well TBH, I don't really mind about the SoC other than the fact that its a dual and it would be significantly better than the single core that my captivate has.
and I don't live in the states, so I"m not really affected about LTE and such since we don't have LTE or anything where I live.
what I am worried about is the locked bootloader and such cause I can safetly run gingerbread on my captivate, but I won't be able to be on gingerbread once I'm on the atrix and my ROM choices and tweakign and such will be very limited until we can get the bootloader unlocked since motorola is such an ass to lock it.
I'm still debating this....with half of me saying "no" and half of me saying "yes"
does your atrix "feel faster or smoother" compared to the captivate?

droid_does said:
well TBH, I don't really mind about the SoC other than the fact that its a dual and it would be significantly better than the single core that my captivate has.
and I don't live in the states, so I"m not really affected about LTE and such since we don't have LTE or anything where I live.
what I am worried about is the locked bootloader and such cause I can safetly run gingerbread on my captivate, but I won't be able to be on gingerbread once I'm on the atrix and my ROM choices and tweakign and such will be very limited until we can get the bootloader unlocked since motorola is such an ass to lock it.
I'm still debating this....with half of me saying "no" and half of me saying "yes"
does your atrix "feel faster or smoother" compared to the captivate?
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Ahh, then yea all the AT&T stuff is kinda irrelevant, lol. The rom choices out there are minimal due to the bootloader encryption, obviously, but there is a HELL of a lot of working going on to fix that. Don't want to speak too soon but we may be close. Khoulk, tenfar, TBH, and a bunch of others are working on it. The Atrix is faster and smoother, yes, but we still don't even have an ETA for Gingerbread.

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Ahh, then yea all the AT&T stuff is kinda irrelevant, lol. The rom choices out there are minimal due to the bootloader encryption, obviously, but there is a HELL of a lot of working going on to fix that. Don't want to speak too soon but we may be close. Khoulk, tenfar, TBH, and a bunch of others are working on it. The Atrix is faster and smoother, yes, but we still don't even have an ETA for Gingerbread.
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so do you"feel" that my captivate+100 would be a decent deal for a nice more "up to date" phone?
cheers

droid_does said:
so do you"feel" that my captivate+100 would be a decent deal for a nice more "up to date" phone?
cheers
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I have an atrix and since i have bought it i love my cappy more. The only thing better in atrix is GPS from end user perspective. Somebody was right when he mentioned that maybe its a better idea to wait for galaxy S II

watsaa said:
I have an atrix and since i have bought it i love my cappy more. The only thing better in atrix is GPS from end user perspective. Somebody was right when he mentioned that maybe its a better idea to wait for galaxy S II
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If you don't mind....can I ask you why do you like your captivate more?
Thanks
Swyped from my gingerfied captivate

droid_does said:
If you don't mind....can I ask you why do you like your captivate more?
Thanks
Swyped from my gingerfied captivate
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I would check online to see what the going rate for a used captivate is before offering it up + 100 for the Atrix. Compare that to the price for an off-contract atrix and you'll have your answer as to whether or not its a "fair" trade, value wise. Comparing the two phones to each other depends on how much you value aftermarket development. I'm a hardcore themer and that's why I kept my cappy. I haven't released anything for the Atrix yet, and I've had it almost since launch. I was able to get the Atrix through work at no cost, so it was win-win for me. Hardware wise, it is superior (except for the screen. Super Am. beats out the qhd 960x540 IMO). Development wise, there's no contest. Cappy is on Gingerbread. End of discussion. Its a trade-off either way. That's why I said wait for the SGS II to become available whereever you're at: dev friendly + hardware that is equal to or bettan than the atrix is almost every way. They're both great phones, IMO... but the SGS II is gonna be even better. And some phone that no one knows about that will be announced 2 months from now will be even better than the SGS II, lol.

10tonhammr said:
I would check online to see what the going rate for a used captivate is before offering it up + 100 for the Atrix. Compare that to the price for an off-contract atrix and you'll have your answer as to whether or not its a "fair" trade, value wise. Comparing the two phones to each other depends on how much you value aftermarket development. I'm a hardcore themer and that's why I kept my cappy. I haven't released anything for the Atrix yet, and I've had it almost since launch. I was able to get the Atrix through work at no cost, so it was win-win for me. Hardware wise, it is superior (except for the screen. Super Am. beats out the qhd 960x540 IMO). Development wise, there's no contest. Cappy is on Gingerbread. End of discussion. Its a trade-off either way. That's why I said wait for the SGS II to become available whereever you're at: dev friendly + hardware that is equal to or bettan than the atrix is almost every way. They're both great phones, IMO... but the SGS II is gonna be even better. And some phone that no one knows about that will be announced 2 months from now will be even better than the SGS II, lol.
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going rate for the captivate is around 300~ but then the atrix goes for alot more as well........
Maybe I should just wait longer for more dual core phones.....?
Swyped from my gingerfied captivate

I definitely wouldn't do it - the Captivate just has so much more to offer with a thriving developer community. The Atrix is supposedly on the verge of being rooted, but it will likely take awhile for things to really boom (and there's no telling when the root will even be successful). I have a few friends with the Atrix, and while it looks to be a decent phone, most complain about battery life and call quality.
I'm no fanboy - I'd jump ship from the Captivate tomorrow if the price was right and hardware/software looked to be legit, but right now the Captivate feels like one of the best possible phones a regular user and geek can have.

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I definitely wouldn't do it - the Captivate just has so much more to offer with a thriving developer community. The Atrix is supposedly on the verge of being rooted, but it will likely take awhile for things to really boom (and there's no telling when the root will even be successful). I have a few friends with the Atrix, and while it looks to be a decent phone, most complain about battery life and call quality.
I'm no fanboy - I'd jump ship from the Captivate tomorrow if the price was right and hardware/software looked to be legit, but right now the Captivate feels like one of the best possible phones a regular user and geek can have.
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The devs have already rooted the phone I think. They are trying to unlock the bootloader.
Don't do it OP. After messing around on an Atrix for awhile, it is a good phone but feels a little finnicky.
A captivate on GB feels a lot smoother than a stock Froyo Atrix IMO.

My opinion you would be paying for a downgrade
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Syntax3600 said:
I definitely wouldn't do it - the Captivate just has so much more to offer with a thriving developer community. The Atrix is supposedly on the verge of being rooted, but it will likely take awhile for things to really boom (and there's no telling when the root will even be successful). I have a few friends with the Atrix, and while it looks to be a decent phone, most complain about battery life and call quality.
I'm no fanboy - I'd jump ship from the Captivate tomorrow if the price was right and hardware/software looked to be legit, but right now the Captivate feels like one of the best possible phones a regular user and geek can have.
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its already rooted....only thign missing is the bootloader's still locked
KTownGT said:
The devs have already rooted the phone I think. They are trying to unlock the bootloader.
Don't do it OP. After messing around on an Atrix for awhile, it is a good phone but feels a little finnicky.
A captivate on GB feels a lot smoother than a stock Froyo Atrix IMO.
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"finnicky"? don't get me wrong
I'm running CM7 and have tried other gingerbread ROM's on my captivate
but I kill the battery so fast and it slows to a halt once I try to multi task with browsing and stuff
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My opinion you would be paying for a downgrade
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why would I be paying for a downgrade?
can you describe in more detail please if you don't mind

I'm digging the front facing camera, the working GPS, and the resolution bump.
The atrix doesn't run as hot when playing games (my backplate used to burn me) or when running GPS and the battery last considerably longer.
What do you do on your phone? If you read more news and the like, the screen is great. If you watch more movies on your phone, then you might like the sammy screen better.
The fingerprint reader is nifty as well.
I am weary of samsung's gps on the infuse and the SGS II so I will steer clear..

xredjokerx said:
I'm digging the front facing camera, the working GPS, and the resolution bump.
The atrix doesn't run as hot when playing games (my backplate used to burn me) or when running GPS and the battery last considerably longer.
What do you do on your phone? If you read more news and the like, the screen is great. If you watch more movies on your phone, then you might like the sammy screen better.
The fingerprint reader is nifty as well.
I am weary of samsung's gps on the infuse and the SGS II so I will steer clear..
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I do a mix of both.....
I think i've decided....atrix it is.....now just to wait for the other party to finalize the deal

droid_does said:
I do a mix of both.....
I think i've decided....atrix it is.....now just to wait for the other party to finalize the deal
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In the end it's your decision. The only way you can really go wrong is if you went to the extremely locked down iphone. Enjoy your new atrix my friend.

don't do it! I have a captivate and I just bought an atrix for $300 and was planning on selling my captivate. But after using the atrix for a couple of days I decided to sell the atrix instead. It is just a bad user experience. Mainly because of the screen and the lack of response. Whenever I would use the slider to slide through contacts, it would lose track of my finger and call someone on accident. Also it is an eyesore to look at when you are scrolling.

[Q] Which T-Mobile Android Phone

So I'm trying to decide on which T-Mobile phone to get hopefully next week. I had the Nexus One and it broke so for the moment I'm stuck with a blackberry and not happy with it at all.
I'm deciding on either between the Nexus S or the HTC Sensation. Any help from you guys on deciding which one to get would be great.
Also, if there is any other phone you might think would be great, let me know.. I'm planning on rooting it and everything

HTC Sensation 4G definitely. Personally, I love Sense, but even if you don't, the hardware is great, and I believe there are already a good number of AOSP ROMs for it. (and it has a front facing camera)

if you plan on modding it, then i would consider the community size for each phone.
the sensation has a slightly bigger community then the nexus s (how do i know? just go to forum.xda-developers.com and compare the stats for the phones)
id say you should wait for the samsung galaxy s II

I would recommend the HTC Sensation. This is a great phone with Sense 3.0 already on it. There is some great development for custom ROMS on this phone. And if you don't like Sense then you can drop an AOSP ROM on it and eliminate it. I think the Sensation gives you the best of both worlds, Sense and AOSP.

Here are some excellent choices:
-Samsung Dart
-Samsung Gravity
-Optimus T
-Wildfire S
-Samsung exhibit
-Moto Defy
-Moto Cliq 2
-Samsung Behold
-G2
Here are some high-quality Android phones that feature a great price point, these phones are good for normal usage. They pack quite the punch, though not the same punch as a Sensation, but still punch none the less. When accompanied by a 200MB Data plan, 500Min, and Unl Txt, this combinations leads to large savings and a good Android experience. If you remove txt you'll save yourself even more money per month, don't let the these not so high-end phones scare you off. They have good reviews from users and you should consider one of the above, they'll help you appreciate android even more, and the phones have .6-1GHz cores, with HVGA, causing slick and smooth performance. These Socs are handy for lite usage, their Accelerated GPUs are good for games like Angry birds if that's what you like, web browsing could be on par with the Sensation. Which from some people I've heard the browser is not as snappy due to no HW accel being enabled. Please carefully pick your next phone, if you don't wait for ICS.
-Ace

Don't buy anything that has been on the market for more than 4 or 5 months because it will be so underpowered by your next upgrade you will hate it for the last year of your contract. If you are on TMO and don't get the Sensation, you have a problem. I would pick up that phone in a heartbeat if I could get it on my carrier.

Thanks guys and I"m thinking about getting the Sensation.. or save my $$$ and wait for the new google phone?? Nexus Prime??

galaxy s2 is coming out...

It's hard to find a phone that will tie you over for a while. I've been rocking my Nexus S, unknown to the fact that Wifi Calling was the ONLY thing missing from it...after trying out a friend's G2 and using Wifi Calling in the basement, it's drastically changed my view on a lot of the T-Mobile lineup.
I've been disappointed with T-Mo's decision to equip their variant of the Galaxy S II with a snapdragon instead of the exynos, and it may be an uphill climb to get decent rom/dev support (mind you, this is speculation and may not be a hindrance at all). I've been looking at the Sensation, but I'm not entirely convinced it's the end-all be-all. I could be COMPLETELY wrong, but I'm not seeing its potential just yet.
Nexus Prime will be an ideal choice, but I will strongly look at more 'branded' phones due to the invaluable wifi calling ability.

I hate hard decisions

Ace42 said:
Here are some excellent choices:
-Samsung Dart
-Samsung Gravity
-Optimus T
-Wildfire S
-Samsung exhibit
-Moto Defy
-Moto Cliq 2
-Samsung Behold
-G2
-Ace
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that post really read like a bad craigslist ad..
the G2, the cliq 2, the defy, and the exhibit are all legitimately great phones, if you don't want the latest pick the sensation, sell it new in box, and buy one of these on craigslist.
if you're going prepaid and can't spend more than $150, then the wildfire s or optimus t new..
suggesting the Behold especially is outright crazy.

I very much enjoy the versatility of the htc sensation 4g with the Android Revolution HD 3.6.11 rom.

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eazy8705 said:
Thanks guys and I"m thinking about getting the Sensation.. or save my $$$ and wait for the new google phone?? Nexus Prime??
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Using one here -decent phone, but make sure to do some sound checks. Maybe mine is unique/bad, but I find on max vol it isn't very loud.
Neil

HTC Vivid or SGSII Skyrocket?

I was going to upgrade to a SGSII until I just heard these two are coming out in the next couple weeks.
Issue with SGSII is now the user base and Devs will be split between these two devices. Add to that, it's still unclear if the phone will be on Exynos or Snapdragon - which could affect the Rom base.
The Vivid however looks like a really nice phone as well. Just unsure how many Devs will be jumping on that. Add to that it's a qHD screen (although probably not close to the SAMOLED+ in terms of colors and blacks).
Decisions...
But 4.5inch on a 800x480 doesn't seem to great. The qHD is quite better for a 4.5inch.

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I was going to upgrade to a SGSII until I just heard these two are coming out in the next couple weeks.
Issue with SGSII is now the user base and Devs will be split between these two devices. Add to that, it's still unclear if the phone will be on Exynos or Snapdragon - which could affect the Rom base.
The Vivid however looks like a really nice phone as well. Just unsure how many Devs will be jumping on that. Add to that it's a qHD screen (although probably not close to the SAMOLED+ in terms of colors and blacks).
Decisions...
But 4.5inch on a 800x480 doesn't seem to great. The qHD is quite better for a 4.5inch.
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The GS2LTE is a 1.2GHz clocked CPU; therefore, it is an Exynos and not the 1.5GHz Snapdragon present in the TMobile version.
The Vivid, being the only AT&T HTC device (and since it's a newer HTC device, hopefully stock unlocked bootloaders), should have a decent following both in general userbase and in development. I get the feeling that the only reason why people gravitated to the Captivate is due to the fact that it was AT&T's only reasonable Android device at the time.
I've just been so frustrated with Samsung's stock experience on the Captivate and all the problems that this phone has been giving me, unlike my friend's rooted and near-stock Inspire 4G, that I will never consider buying a Samsung Android device again. I don't care how good it looks on paper; the Captivate did not really work in practice until developers got their hands dirty and fixed it for the rest of us.

HTC.......
the SGS2 is great, but HTC always gets the latest and greatest and the most dev support....

qwertyaas said:
I was going to upgrade to a SGSII until I just heard these two are coming out in the next couple weeks.
Issue with SGSII is now the user base and Devs will be split between these two devices. Add to that, it's still unclear if the phone will be on Exynos or Snapdragon - which could affect the Rom base.
The Vivid however looks like a really nice phone as well. Just unsure how many Devs will be jumping on that. Add to that it's a qHD screen (although probably not close to the SAMOLED+ in terms of colors and blacks).
Decisions...
But 4.5inch on a 800x480 doesn't seem to great. The qHD is quite better for a 4.5inch.
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As much as I'm getting frustrated with my Cappy, I think I'm going to wait it out and see what other XDA members say about both of them before buying. Also, I want to see something official from the manufacturers and ATT on whether or not these are getting ICS.
I don't know about this (just thinking out loud here), but could the resolutions change after an ICS update? If it's possible, it would be worth waiting to see what happens after (if) they get an ICS update.
I really want to trust the specs from Samsung but after the GPS issues, the reboot issues, the poor camera quality, the lack of release updates (be it ATT or Samsung) - it's going to be tough to woo me back to another Samsung phone. I know I have a 1GHz phone with good hardware in my hands but my senses always feel like my wife's Nexus1 runs smoother and better on older hardware.
If Samsung (and all phone manufacturers for this matter) actually cared about the customer there would be one form factor across all wireless providers to help encourage innovative accessories and to help reduce the cost of accessories for the customer. Ok, now I'm ranting on a tangent. Time to stop.

The SGS2 i777 already has a good Dev base and continuing to grow already. The sgs2 i777 has in common with the i9100 as we that have/had cappys should know the i897 cappy and i9000 were like sisters and is HOW we had so much Dev support. Most the devs that I have seen already are stating that they are staying with the i777 and NOT moving to the i727 skyrocket.
There are already a few post over in the ATT SGS2 General forums debating this so you can catch up on it beforehand.
Basically it is an ALMOST FOR SURE thing that it is NOT the 1.5Ghz Exerynos chip in it since Samsung stated that ONLY test chips were ready by the end of this year and should make it into phones by the middle of 2012.
The screen is .2" larger but with the SAME 800x480 resolution.
It is Lte which is the ONLY GOOD THING I see in it unless you live in an Lte area now and don't stray out.of that area. The Lte coverage will ONLY BE 12 markets by the end.of the year and will take a few years to spread it out better.
Back to the Dev support, if you look into the tmobile section of xda you will see how slow the Dev support is there and how they have like 1 base kernel that is not tweaked much at all. The Dev base is not too good compared to the Dev base of the i777.
The reason I mention the T-Mobile version is it sounds like MOSTLY it is the same phone with the same chipsets just with a different Lte radio.
I came from/still have 2 of 3 of my cappys, went to the sgs2 i777 on Oct. 4th and Lte will be in my area by the end of the year. I am within the timeframe to return the sgs2 now but wont be doing it due to the Dev base and the similarities with it and the i9100. Which as we know the i9000 got all the updates and goodies which were pretty easily ported over to out captivates since they were similiar. The SAME is/will be true with the i777 and i9100. The i727 doesn't have a sister unbranded phone to port from so will likely be at the mercy of ATT for future software updates. The i777 should get ICS shortly after the i9100 well before att decides to give us ICS on either phone. So to make a long story short I am choosing because.of the Dev support and compatibility of phones already out there. The i727 will be a 1fer phone, one of a kind for the most part. Not wanting to start a i777/i727 flaming war here as each person will have their own ideas about it. That is how.it has already turned into in most of the post about this subject over there. Just giving my thoughts and feelings here.
Plus I have always qualified for an upgrade.on my line every 12 months as I did this time. So 12 months.from now Lte may be in a better spotlight with coverage, the sgs3 should be making its way by that time. The i777 sgs2 kicks ass for sure and I have not had any of the little learning issues/bad flashes/ test software as when I started out with my cappy last year in July. It just works without any of the hiccups. We had actual roms on LAUNCH DAY due to being SO CLOSE to the i9100...
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I guess it's true and I thought this before. If going for a SGSII, no point not getting the original - especially since soon ports of the International SGSII will be coming around and the Skyrocket might have different HW.
But the HTC is tempting as they usually make really nice phones - and there might be a good amount of Devs and people in general jumping on it after the Inspire.

Looks like the SGS2LTE has the Exynos 4212 just from comparing hardware specs. The 1.2Ghz version in the regular SGS2 the Exynos 4210. Throw "Exynos 4212" into google search and you'll see some impressive specs. It is supposed to have 30% better power use and 5 times more powerful graphics performance. I'm not an expert, but this is just what I think is under the hood.

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Looks like the SGS2LTE has the Exynos 4212 just from comparing hardware specs. The 1.2Ghz version in the regular SGS2 the Exynos 4210. Throw "Exynos 4212" into google search and you'll see some impressive specs. It is supposed to have 30% better power use and 5 times more powerful graphics performance. I'm not an expert, but this is just what I think is under the hood.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1319484
Read on the Rogers version Qualcomm
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Posted by Mr.Junky on other post. http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4124&idPhone2=4130
Only issue I see is that it list the OG SGS2 as still having the FM radio and the pic of the Ltd version is of a i9100 or something with the physical home button.
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Once the chipset is officially confirmed exyons vs qualcomm that will be the deciding factor in ROM porting. If the skyrocket has the qualcomm chip, there will be no i9100 ports. The only chance of ports will be the TMo version, which should have very little likelyhood of being any better than the ATT version.
There is a lot of circumstancial evidence pointing to the qualcomm chip, check out the several large threads in the i777 Galaxy S II forum. Most devs chimed in and have said the i777 will be the only us version capable of getting ROM ports from the I9100, because they are so close.
There is no proof yet the Vivid will have an unlocked bootloader when shipped.
If you enjoy flashing ROMs, or want the most selection in ROMs, the i777 OG GS II will likely be your best bet.
Sent from my Galaxy S II (i777)

Can't decide if I should get SG2 skyrocket or HTC vivid.
I am returning my AT&T SG2 tomorrow.

vl221 said:
Can't decide if I should get SG2 skyrocket or HTC vivid.
I am returning my AT&T SG2 tomorrow.
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Ah, first world troubles. I seriously doubt either phone will disappoint in any showstopping way, with or without a substantial amount of developer support.

Currently I have a Galaxy S II Epic 4g touch on sprint. I will be leaving sprint for multiple reason and going to AT&T to get the HTC Vivid. In my opinion samsung makes better phones but HTC gives you a much better user experience. Here are some pro's and cons of samsung and htc (my opinions are based on my current phone the gs2 and my previous phone the evo)
Samsung beats HTC at:
Screen is better
Camera is better
CPU is faster
Sound on speaker is louder and more clear
HTC beats Samsung at:
Way better widgets
Screen is more sensitive
GPS actually works (gps on samsung phones are always pure failure)
Higher quality plastic
please dont get mad if you disagree this is just my opinion. I will be getting the white vivid and will never get a non htc phone again.

The normal SGS II is better than the Skyrocket. FYI.

The one real downer to the SGS II LTE that would probably stop me from getting it is the resolution is 480 x 800 pixels @ 4.5 inches = 207ppi pixel density?? REALLY?! I think the G1 had better than that

So the HTC vivid and the SGS2 Lte both have worse processors that the OG SGS2? One with 1.2 snapdragon and the other with 1.5 qualcomm?
http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/3/2535251/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-skyrocket-pictures-hands-on-att-lte
Glad I am sticking with the OG SGS2
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Only downside now w/ the Vivid, is that it is plastic and not the usual aluminum unibody construction. One of the things that always separated HTC from Samsung IMO

Noob question: I don't know much about the new phones coming out but wouldn't the new nexus that's coming out be a greater or just as good choice. Just wondering because I always thought the nexus s had the most dev support and updates since it was a google phone.
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mossination said:
Noob question: I don't know much about the new phones coming out but wouldn't the new nexus that's coming out be a greater or just as good choice. Just wondering because I always thought the nexus s had the most dev support and updates since it was a google phone.
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It will, but not everyone is willing to fork over money off-contract; I've heard that they're changing it to allow multiple carriers to subsidize, but still. I am passionately avoiding Samsung devices from now on.

I thought Nexus is exclusive to Verizon in the US. Not much help for the ATT, Tmobile and Spring folks.
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It will, but not everyone is willing to fork over money off-contract; I've heard that they're changing it to allow multiple carriers to subsidize, but still. I am passionately avoiding Samsung devices from now on.
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What is wrong with Samsung? I have a SG2 but debating if I should get the Vivid or the Skyrocket.
Specs wise it seems like the skyrocket got the Vivid beat.