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Captivate or the HTC Desire?

Rogers said they are getting the captivate soon, and Telus announced that they are releasing the Desire tomorrow ($449 no contract)
Im debating on which i should get. I've wanted the HTC desire for ages, but i heard the captivate has a better processor?
Any ideas?

yeah captivate wins out on hardware wise, but desire already has good development going on if i'm not mistaken. Dev's are still working on the ins and outs of the galaxy s series.
If you're willing to learn a bit about android and change some settings, i recommend the captivate by far.
If you want a good out of the box experience i think the desire may be better for you?

zoltrix said:
Rogers said they are getting the captivate soon, and Telus announced that they are releasing the Desire tomorrow ($449 no contract)
Im debating on which i should get. I've wanted the HTC desire for ages, but i heard the captivate has a better processor?
Any ideas?
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Captivate
Pros
-Bigger, better SAMOLED screen. Better multitouch sensors = better multitouch experience.
-Arguably the fastest SOC (CPU + GPU combo) available on the market right now
-16gb on board storage, supports up to a 32gb storage card.
-Swype keyboard pre-installed
-Thinner, sleek form factor
Cons
-No camera flash
-Samsung TouchWiz vs HTC sense (subjective)
-No indicator LEDs
You can't go wrong either way, but with the exception of the camera flash, the Galaxy S/Captivate has superior hardware.

I sold my Nexus One to buy the Captivate and you couldn't pay me to go back. Sure the N1/Desire has better dev support but with CM and Froyo coming to the Galaxy series there isn't a huge need. Not to mention the fact that the Galaxy is going to sell FAR more units than the N1/Desire so the devs will come. The media support of the Captivate alone is worth the switch and the true multi-touch display is a godsend coming from the buggy N1 screen. I do miss the notification trackball on the N1 more than I thought. Let me know if you have any specific questions, I've owned both.

I posted this same topic on teh Desire board, and someone said that the cpu's are similar, but the gpu in the captivate is much better, which is pretty obvious in that quake 3 demo video that's been floating around alot.
But i dont really plan on playing any games.. i mean if i had the captivate, id definatly ahave an intence game on it just to show off to my friends, but i dont plan on sitting there playing a game.
Also, camera flash isnt a big con really, but its nice to have. The LED indicator on the other hand is a must have ever since i had my bb curve 8310. I got an htc magic now and i miss that blinking red light like crazy. I know the captivate has some app to use a random pixel buthaving teh real deal is always better imo.
custom interface (touchwiz vs htc sense) isnt a big deal sincei can probably just put a desire rom on the captivate and vice versa..
I dont know. I guess ill wait for the pricing from Rogers for the captivate. IF its something stupid (which it probably will be) then ill get the Desire.
Also, if i get the desire, ill ahve to worry about unlocking it, which i know nothing about..

Rogers will launch the Captivate at pretty much the same price as the Desire and Vibrant.

novaIS350 said:
Cons
-No camera flash
-Samsung TouchWiz vs HTC sense (subjective)
-No indicator LEDs
You can't go wrong either way, but with the exception of the camera flash, the Galaxy S/Captivate has superior hardware.
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The camera on the Captivate takes some fantastic night shots without flash. Flash also has limited range. Its better to brighten up an entire image rather just focusing a spotlight (LED) on a certain area of the photograph.

so i guess its stupid for me to get teh desire? it's just simply out dated now?

The Captivate and Desire may seem similar on paper but processor speed being equal does not make the processors equal. Is an AMD processor running at 2ghz the same as an Intel processor running at 2ghz? The answer is no.
The Captivate processor is the same processor in the iPhone 4 with a better (but same type) GPU. This is why the other post stated that the Captivate has the best SOC (system-on-a-chip) currently being sold.
The Captivate is not without it's bugs but those will get worked out. I have always been the type to look for potential and not just out-of-the-box. Once we get Froyo on this device it is going to be incredibly "Captivating." LOL (yes, I know that was corny)

I'm having serious doubts about my Captivate. I have yet to hear anything from Samsung about when or IF they will fix the GPS issues. I never realized how much I relied on GPS and just took it for granted when I'm looking for shortcuts cutting through the city, etc. But this phone can't ever find me. And when you are driving down a road at 50 mph and need to decide where to turn next, you need a phone that can find you within seconds, not through up a blue area that you MIGHT be in.

I'm reading this topic over on HowardForums and i get the feeling like the Captivate is the better phone..
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1661669-HTC-Desire-or-Samsung-Galaxy-S
but then i read this post:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...e-or-Samsung-Galaxy-S?p=13949855#post13949855
I already have major call dropping issues with my HTC magic and it's driving me nuts. I dont want a phone with problems

I just checked at a Telus store, if you are planning on buying the Desire to unlock and use on Rogers the price becomes $599. The $449 price is only the buy out price for using on an existing Telus plan.
I'll be waiting for Rogers to release the Captivate I guess...

Switch33 said:
I just checked at a Telus store, if you are planning on buying the Desire to unlock and use on Rogers the price becomes $599. The $449 price is only the buy out price for using on an existing Telus plan.
I'll be waiting for Rogers to release the Captivate I guess...
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for real?!
thats not fair :|

http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...g-directly-from-Telus?p=13952973#post13952973
He bought it outright, is on rogers, and paid hte regular 449

Switch33 said:
I just checked at a Telus store, if you are planning on buying the Desire to unlock and use on Rogers the price becomes $599. The $449 price is only the buy out price for using on an existing Telus plan.
I'll be waiting for Rogers to release the Captivate I guess...
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That's BS. Goto BB or FS and buy it outright. I swear some cellphone dealers are worse than used car salesmen, either by choice or ignorance.

[Q] Which phone to purchase

Hey guys,
I've been following xda-developers for last few months and it totally rocks.
Now I've been using Sony ericsson w950i (unlocked) until now.
Been thinking of moving to smart phone.
Now I'm confused, I don't care about carrier (though using ATT for now)
Here r choices: 1. Evo 2. DroidX 3. xperia X10
I don't want an iphone and I can't purchase Nexus One (which I would have if I had enough money :-/)
Anyway so here are criteria for phone:
1. Can be rooted, I like cynogenmod and I may hardly use original android
Here r few of my assumptions (PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong)
I can't use proprietary UIs if I put cynogen (it doesn't matter but I wanna confirm)
Evo is my ultimate choice but heard battery sucks (what about spare battery solution ?), How severe is battery issue?
Please feel free to provide ur opinion about other phones as well. I may eventually end up purchasing Evo still I want some experienced opinions
Thanks

Evo is a great phone. It IS starting to get old. Perhaps wait till christmas to see what new phones HTC brings out?
THe X10 is outdated and will most likely only ever see android 2.1 so Id steer clear of it. In fact, I dont intend on buying any more SE phones but thats just me. .
The droid x seems amazing, can be rooted but its quite big in hand (but i suppose youre looking at the EVO so thats similar )
Have you considered the Samsung Galaxy S phones? including the AT&T captivate?
They can be rooted, unlocked, will certainly see cyanogen mod development and because there are sooo many of them around now both locally and internationally (unlike droid x and evo), there will be lots of development for them. Specs wise, they are the top gun.
Personally, id wait a bit and see what comes around the corner. If you still want what youve listed here, youll get a better deal seeing as many will flock to the new devices
Cheers!

I love the Evo. It's my mini tiny PC. Battery wise, well it does juice it up quite much...but then again I am constantly on my fone so I got Ian charges, dock for home, n extra battery as well.
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Thanks guys,
As ozy pointed out waiting till Christmas/new year would be best possible option even for me, however don't want to renew my contract with ATT for one year just for that (will certainly look for something though)
And about Samsung phones I'm bit skeptic (fragile and get heated -- well thats 5-6 years back experience, never used it again so I'm not saying they r bad however I'm just being doubtful, though amoled screens r worth checking out)
And thanks anani exactly thats how I'm planning to use (though its on internet forever than on phone) I would appreciate if u can point out battery accessories links

lengthy bump..

If you are happy with AT&T I would get the Captivate. I have an Evo, love it, but my wife gets her phone through work so is stuck with AT&T. She recently upgraded from the Iphone, which she always hated, to the Samsung captivate. I have rooted it (simple compared to the Evo) and done a few mods, got rid of AT&T's market censorship, enabled side loading, and got rid of all the AT&T bloatware, and replaced most of the supplied apps with better ones from the market.
Running it side by side with my Evo I have to say, while I like the Evo better, but it has some advantages. The screen is much better looking, it has slightly more responsive touch input than the Evo, and Touchwiz is a less bloated UI than Sense. On the downside, the only two things I can find to complain about with it is that the bottom buttons are not as responsive as the Evo's, and the GPS on it takes a long time to lock and isn't as sensitive as the Evo's is. I am working on improving the GPS now though with some success. It will also be getting Froyo within the next few weeks, and rumor is the button issue may be addressed with the update.
Overall though, I like the captivate, especially since the phone call quality is really good, it is light weight and seems to be built very well. Also the screen fps isn't capped at 30 fps like the Evo is. If I was on AT&T that is what I would get.

You don't even need to think about it
HTC Desire with OLED mon ...

Thanks wfrandy and seals,
I'm kinda annoyed with at&t network at my place, most of the time I've had complains from friends saying "I tried your phone for whole day" and etc plus I'm not really in for data usage cap. Thats the main reason I'm hanging on my old phone else I could have renewed my contract by now.
But yea Captivate seems nice and Samsung strategy to make phones as open as possible is also tempting.
And about Desire - is it available with any carrier? I thought desire is not available in US market

hmm,
So I've a deal for htc droid incredible, verizon is giving it for free.
What are your reviews? I liked phone the only downside to the phones we were comparing seems to be 3.7" screen and no 4g connectivity
Please let me know if anyone have used the phone
Thanks

Time for a new Android, help needed?

I've put it off for as long as I could, but it's come time to put my trusty captivate to rest and get a new Android. I've been with AT&T for 2 yrs, and really don't have a preference on carrier and am willing to switch to Sprint or Verizon, just not T-Mob.
Due to Amazons crazy penny sale, and black Friday I thought now's the time and wanted to get some opinions on a few phones. As mentioned, I've been with my Galaxy S for 2 yrs and have loved every minute of it, and while one of the Galaxy SII variants is the obvious choice I've also been checking out HTC and a few of the other brands.
I loved my captivates screen... I'm rough on phones and it's held up to everything I've put it through; it also has great depth and is crystal clear even compared to my brothers Droid X2 much to his surprise lol. Dual Core is a must of course, and as far as updatability goes I'm sure I'll have it rooted and rom'd asap so I'm not that concerned with "Will it get ICS?" like some other folks will be. I've been rom'd since I got the Cliq ages ago, so no worries there
I guess I'd like to hear some opinions on whats best of the bunch with the Galaxy SII variants, and which other companies/phones are comparable to those in terms of power, etc... I'm not new to Android world by any means, but I've lived in my Samsung powered bubble for the past year or so which means I don't know squat about the new, and its overwhelming to take it all in.
Any help or advice would be appreciated, I figure once I can narrow the phones down a bit I'll start looking at carriers a little more and see who's got the best 2-line family plan.

Well for black friday (Boxing Day...or week here in canada) the Sprint SGSII is a great buy. But if you have that extra money to spend and if you dont need an SD Slot, get a Galaxy Nexus. It's Google's flagship phone after all.

in my opinion, the GSII on at&t is the best looking...thats why i have one
i'd say either the sprint to at&t version would be great, or a galaxy nexus, but in my opinion, i think the GSII with ICS in going to be a better phone than the galaxy nexus

The Nexus would definitely be on my list, but its not going to come out here for until December so it's out for now. HTC and LG are the only other two brands I'm looking at right now; I like the Razr, but had bad experiences with Motorola in the past, so I'm on the fence about that one...

LG is just as bad as moto, maybe even worse. look at the 2x. It's either sammy or HTC.

Being in Alaska, USA I have very limited choice on carriers. AT&T is the only "BIG One" up here.
I also have been using the Captivate and with various ROMs recently to keep things fresh. I to have been looking and I do love the Samsung screens but I might jump for once. Been debating with myself on another Samsung like Galaxy Nexus or the Sony Ericsson Arc S, unlocked only $380 and in various colors. SE did announce official ICS update for this phone.

Samsung, cuz it has the most awesome screens or HTC because of the overall quality. Don't think you can really go wrong with any of those 2

HTC Evo 3D 1.2 ghz dual core, HDMI out, Wimax and 3D movies, photos and video recording. Whilst its a lil gimmiky its Loads of FUN. Otherwise it sounds like one of samsungs latest offerings is the go.

What about Nokia N95, I heard it's an iPhone killer

Moved

I am going to be the LG-P930 troll that I am and say "LG-P930".
On a more serious note, I can show you anything about this phone.

Info..Nexus S or SGII

Hello all, I am heavily think about paying my ETF from AT&T and moving to Sprint. I can get 4 smart phones for the same price plan as I have at AT&T with just 2 smart phones and 2 regular phones.
On that note, I am looking at either the Nexus S or the SGII.. What are you opinions? I am leaning more towards Nexus S since it is a TRUE Google phone, no bloatware from Samsung or Touchwiz. But the downfall I feel is no SD card.
Please let a future Sprint customer know your opinion.
Thanks

It really depends on what you want to use your phone for.
An external SD card could be useful if you want a lot of media, and the dual core CPU and 1GB of RAM on the S2 will certainly help with gaming and flash heavy websites. However, as you state, the Touchwiz UI is certainly a bit crappy, and having used my friend's Samsung handsets I much prefer my Nexus S.
While the Nexus S doesn't have an SD card, it certainly has a good sized amount of storage (iPhone users all seem to manage fine with 16GB) and it is much zippier without bloat ware or extras. You're also going to get better support in terms of updates, and if you're a dev or a modder you're going to have a much easier experience with the Nexus S.
At the end of the day, I'd say go for the Nexus S if you want to mod, learn how Android works or stay at the cutting edge of Android. The 1GHz Hummingbird may not be dual core but it's still a damn fast chip and will get quick updates for a long time to come yet.
If you'd rather play lots of games, take HD video and use the phone for media then go for the S2.
Hope this helps

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What he said best bet is go into a sprint store and play with both handsets and see what u like more. J wanted a gs2 but I heard that phone was having signal issues. I don't know if they got resolved but I couldn't be more happier with my nexus s 4g. I just wish sprint hurry up and fix there network.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using xda premium

So has the Nexus S received its official ICS update? I dont really use my phone much anymore to watch stuff off the internet since I got my Transformer. I play my games and watch movies off it. But I do surf the net, and would be using the Sprint TV option, you know the average user stuff.
I do root all my devices, I love custom roms and the ability to get free wifi tether, etc...

Damn, I wrote a whole page and it didn't post! I have both phones so I will give a quick summary...development and timely updates- Nexus. If battery and over the top performance are most important then ET4G. The LOS (loss of signal) issue was cleared up with an OTA update
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using xda premium

Go on samsung S II and you will not regret ! ( Nexus S is limitted now 512RAM, No micro SDcard, only one 1GHz proc....) I have both devices but you can't compare SII with NS ( SII is faster than many tablets, has a magnificent display, and many other benefits ) ! Good luck in your choice !

Get the gs2.
I own a ns4g and my wife has the epic touch gs2. No matter what you read, or hear touch wiz getting slammed...the gs2 smokes my ns4g in every respect. Its a large phone but other than that it blisters my ns4g and has better battery life. Both phones are stock.

What they all said .. SGSII. Once rooted, bloatwares/junkwares are no longer a problem as you would flash custom ROM anyway (I know I would). The SGSII's hardwares just blow the NS out of the water.
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How does the Nexus S manage in gaming? I don't play the latest games, but maybye some Angry Birds, Guns n' Glory or Toki Tori. Mostly i'm texting and using android apps. Can I buy the Nexus S, or should I buy the SGS2?

That's like buying a mustang gt or springing for the cobra. If u can afford it, the bigger IS better

I have an NS4G but would love to have an S2. I like the larger screen (my previous phone was an Evo, and it fit my hand perfectly) and more robust hardware.
Throw an aosp rom into the S2 and you have the best of both worlds.

My only gripe with Samsung is how they didn't include the Wolfson WM8994 and cheaped out by using a Yamaha DAC, otherwise I'd probably be all over one of the variants. If you're someone who wants to use their phone as their primary portable audio player, and care about sound quality a lot, there's a huge selling point for the Nexus S, as well as the original Galaxy S phones.
Otherwise, the SGS2 is better in pretty much every respect. Not a fan of TouchWiz though, but there would likely be a TouchWiz free ROM shortly after ICS is released for it.

If you do not have enough money to afford an SII, then go on Nexus S , still good and you can play games without problems

BumbleG said:
My only gripe with Samsung is how they didn't include the Wolfson WM8994 and cheaped out by using a Yamaha DAC, otherwise I'd probably be all over one of the variants. If you're someone who wants to use their phone as their primary portable audio player, and care about sound quality a lot, there's a huge selling point for the Nexus S, as well as the original Galaxy S phones.
Otherwise, the SGS2 is better in pretty much every respect. Not a fan of TouchWiz though, but there would likely be a TouchWiz free ROM shortly after ICS is released for it.
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Does the galaxy nexus have the wolf son?
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HTC Evo 4G lte or Galaxy Nexus on Sprint

I know Sprint service is terrible but my plan is so cheap because I get 22% off. Any ways I have had the Gnex for 2 days and it's good but the screen is kind of grainy looking. So I want to get thoughts on which phone people feel will be the best deal over the next 2 years.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

So it's basically SAMOLED vs S-LCD 2?
Well, I've always liked S-LCD because everything is crisp and every viewing angle is a pleasure to see. Even with SAMOLED+, I always preferred how LCD looked. However, it's undeniable that you'll get worse battery life with LCD. So the choice there is what's more important to you.
GNex also has the biggest dev community, so 2 years from now: you'll still have a sure thing versus a phone we don't even know if the bootloader will be unlocked for sure.
On the other hand, the specs for Sprint's HTC phone is better. Plus a MicroSD slot!

I picked up my Evo LTE earlier this week and couldn't be happier. The size and weight of the phone is just perfedt. And its so thin. And probably my favorite part is the incredible camera speed. It is faster than any camera I've used.
I played with the gnex at sprint. While the idea of playing with open source and long-term support and updates sound enticing, the overall feel if the new Evo won me over. Plus, I've grown fond of sense UI
But you'll enjoy either device I'm sure.
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2

vry nice...
its really awesome... lyk it to mch..

HTC EVO Number one !!

i would go for the galaxy nexus any day no matter what carrier its with

I'm going to have to make the same difficult decision this fall. I think I'll stick with the Evo family, but really they both seem like great phones with great dev communities.

I've had the Galaxy Nexus for a little over two weeks and it's great, but overall I think aside from AOSP ICS, the Evo 4G LTE is better.

So i need to make this decision tomorrow. My mother has my original hero running cm7 and has been working great for her. I upgraded too the 3VO this past July. I am not a sense fan at all. I been running MIUI for the past 7 months =no 4g or 3d support. I could careless about 3d, the phone just had a great processor at the time. So Ive broken it twice. 1st time i called asurion (cracked screen) and got replacement. 2nd time (cracked screen) .I bought a cheap digitizer and installed it myself. The problem is the cheap digitizer never worked 100% right to begin with. I then dropped the phone in the toilet 1 month ago. I managed to work with it up till now where the digitizer is so bad i cant even unlock my screen. Asurion wants 100$ for a replacement. I called sprint told them i dont even want the phone anymore since its basically EOL. They told me im eligible for early upgrade. That option costs 115$ which can be billed to my fathers account (NP he makes enough $$$ in Saudi Arabia). I have to purchase my replacement or new phone myself. Im sick of the evo 3d. I want a phone that is gonna have full CM9 or MIUI support. Im aware the galaxy nexus already does. Does the EVO 4G LTE look promising for support? Or is HTC gonna be a pain in the ass with their closed source proprietary bull****.
I dont care about a micro sd if the nexus comes with 32gb internal.
I prefer battery life.
The question is will the Qualacomm LTE be NOTICEABLY faster than the nexus TI OMAP?
Im paying for this myself (23yrs old). I wanna get the best possible deal. Will sprint buy back my broken evo 3d if I restore it to stock and act like it works? What would you do?? Appreciate any advice. godless XDA community

camara this camara that wait untill the galaxy to kick ur but 20 pic is shutter mode beat that

I think the Galaxy Nexus would be better, honestly having the latest Android version is such an advantage compared to other phones. All the apps that come out will be designed specifically for AOSP and you won't be left behind in app and OS support in let's say 2 years.

Which phone did you end up going with? I ran into the same issue and since I was a big Evo supporter I stuck with the Evo family, I'm a loyalist for some reason
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I know Sprint service is terrible but my plan is so cheap because I get 22% off. Any ways I have had the Gnex for 2 days and it's good but the screen is kind of grainy looking. So I want to get thoughts on which phone people feel will be the best deal over the next 2 years.
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