A long time ago I saw news for this phone that it uses gorilla glass.. is it true?
Because I just got the phone and the screen protector on it sucks. Thick, a bit fuzzy, and makes it less sensitive. I am seriously tempted to pull it off right now.
Has anyone gone without screen protectors? and how are your screens?
Gorilla glass or not, it's still wise to put a layer of protection on the display. It is scratch resistant but not scratch proof.
Am using a matte, anti-fingerprint screen protector and have no problem with screen sensitivity.
some say yes, some say no...
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i would say yes
Last year while skiing I fell tearing open my jacket and spilling my HTC Hero onto the slope (unannounced to me) where it slid down the piste face down until a kindly Spaniard found it and returned it to me.
The body itself all around the screen had been ground away, but the entirely unprotected screen was utterly untouched.
Within moments of getting my Desire S up and running I had it knocked out of my hand by a friendly dog, it landed face down in gravel. Once again there was not a mark on it.
The only time I should have used a screen protector was on my old P800 with its soft resistive screen.
The moral of the story, screen protectors for capacitive screens are the biggest con in the world. Just don't keep your phone in a bag full of diamonds or anything.
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Just don't keep your phone in a bag full of diamonds or anything.
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or sand for that matter. sand is tougher than gorilla glass and it WILL scrach your screen. id actually say you are lucky that your desire s was ok after that gravel fall
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Just don't keep your phone in a bag full of diamonds or anything.
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with a bag full of diamonds who would bother with a scratch to the screen of the damn phone
titus1 said:
Gorilla glass or not, it's still wise to put a layer of protection on the display. It is scratch resistant but not scratch proof.
Am using a matte, anti-fingerprint screen protector and have no problem with screen sensitivity.
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Out of interest which protector are you using?
wow, that post and story makes me want to rip the screen protector off even more. other than seeing a lot of cracked screens, i havent really heard off scratched htc screens.
videos like this help too:
http://techielobang.com/blog/2009/1...-test-for-htc-hd2-feel-the-pain-video-within/
but i guess it's this paranoia.. one scratch will ruin it forever..
i disagree, i was realy carefull not to sscratch my phone around the house why i was waiting for my screen protector off ebay, but ive ended up with a hairline scratch on the screen. You can only see it at certain angles and when a protector on you cant see it but i would recomend a screen protector to keep it safe as the smallest thing can ruin it.
I'm a nudist. Trusted Gorilla Glass on my previous Nokia C6-01. And trusting it on the Desire S. I don't have a protector case either.
When I moved from resistive touch sensors (Windows Mobile) to capacitive (HTC Hero), I stopped using screen protectors. Well, it turns out that the screen doesn't scratch badly, it's very tough, but after months using it hairline scratches do appear, although they are only visible with the light at certain angle.
So I once again I use screen protectors. This way when it's time to sell my current device to get a new one, the screen is 100% perfect. And I don't worry much if I have to clean the screen with my shirt.
I just bought invisiblesheild from zagg.com. I also got a 25% voucher if anyone wants it? not sure if it includes all items in store
however the contact actually covers the camera and sensor/light which does worry me a bit. I was given a chinese brand one which had a dip so the film didnt cover the camera. but it was crap, but the design was better
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I'm a nudist. Trusted Gorilla Glass on my previous Nokia C6-01. And trusting it on the Desire S. I don't have a protector case either.
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Totally with you on the protector case as well. Why buy a beautiful slim phone and then make it fat and ugly by fitting a case?
That said, I have ordered a case but intend to treat it like a condom and only put it on when I need it.
That way, next time I try to impress a girl by falling face first down a mountain, my phone at least will remain unblemished.
C'mon people, liberate yourselves, take it all off! Your phone is a beautiful thing, don't hide it away!
Buy a sock... or some small bag. I don't really see any reason to have it packed when you are using it (if you are not playing sports with it).
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Buy a sock... or some small bag. I don't really see any reason to have it packed when you are using it (if you are not playing sports with it).
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I find that the best advice for phone protection is simply not to use the device when you had a few beers (or several!)
I have two scratches on the outside of my desire s and both are caused by drinking related accidents! I see a direct correlation between phone damage and UK bank holidays !
Luckily the curved raised lower lip of this phone means that when dropped you have to be quite unlucky to scratch its face!
it sure has gorilla glass as you can find in the official site of gorilla glass
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Out of interest which protector are you using?
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Just a generic matte screen protector
i found a test about the hardness of the screen on mp3 players i think it may be useful as i have seen many people asking if a screen protector is required
http://anythingbutipod.com/2009/04/glass-screen-durability-test-a-lesson-on-the-mohs-hardness-scale/
i myself use a screen protector as i am scared that sand may scratch it...
but mine does not reduce the touch sensitivity or the clearness of the screen but it seems to be a fingerprint magnet...
iv seen a hammer and a knife ....
ITS ALLMOST UNBREAKABLE Gorilla glass.
search youtube .... its there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjNm47eUXno&feature=BFp&list=WL2C734E80889271C9&index=1
lol I went without screen protectors for a couple for weeks. was very happy, the screen looked vibrant and sharp.
but lo and behold! today I found a tiny scratch. Probably my own stupid mistake, I put it in my bag without the case, even though i had a case for it in the bag.
but it's ok though. Not really obvious unless you try to look for it. when the screen is lit up, its pretty much nonexistent. Plus.. electronic objects will go out of date someday right
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I am asking because I noticed that the new screen is not as sensitive as previous ones (currently using it with factory film over front panel) and you do need to press harder, some finger gestures not working well.
On the other hand, this screen is supposed to be very durable due to new technology, so maybe no need to use screen protector at all ?
If you want scratch your screen while using your device, then you can just use your Diamond without the screen protection....
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If you want scratch your screen while using your device, then you can just use your Diamond without the screen protection....
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Thanks I understand the purpose of screen protectors, I am talking more about usability, then will decide weither to take risk or not ..
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Thanks I understand the purpose of screen protectors, I am talking more about usability, then will decide weither to take risk or not ..
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It depends also on the quality of your screen protection...
Is one needed? Well thats a matter of taste?
Is the included HTC one any good? Yes its excellent. Applies easily and is very clear... however it scratches very easily. This is no reflection on the actual screen of the Diamond itself, as it would take an awful lot more to scratch the actual screen.
the screen is excellent. much more responsive than on the other devices I've had, and yet I never used a screen protector on my universal or my athena. I wouldn't consider not using a screen protector as the diamond has been a bit of a scuff magnet, despite me keeping it in a leather case. I'm hoping backs for the device will be easy to come by!
you silly if you dont use a protector on this device imho
Of course without screen protector! I'm using touch screens 5 years now...SonyEricsson P800 era...till now none of my devices have been scratched!
Also the usability sucks big time with screen protectors!
If HTC really believed the Diamond can survive without a screen protector, why is one supplied inside the original package ?
Depends on your usage I suppose.
With my last 6-8 phones, I've never used any screen protection or even case and none of them got any scractch.
I always put my phone in my shirt/pants pocket, never in the same pocket with keys or coins.
With the Diamond, I only put the screen protecter only because HTC provided it. If they didn't give me one, I wouldn't even bother buying one. (Yes, still no scratch with my original HTC protector as well)
agree with techdave I have had 5 phones and I try to immediately cover it with screen protector, one time I waited for abit and end up have a scuff mark from something. As the saying goes 'sh*t happens' so why risk damaging your phone especially a beautiful one. I actually ordered one for the back too now, I really dont see it affecting the screen as some people say but they prob got some thicker cheap ones that prob will affect it.
I think of it this way, when I come to sell the phone all i have to do is remove the protectors and it will be good as new!
oh and I sold 4 of them with no complains of wear or tear!
It truly depends what kind of person you are. If your the kind that doesn't care about there Diamond and throws it everywhere then you need a protector. But if your the neat kind that his heart rips out when you see a scratch your probably are not going to need a protector,its really up to you
I really need it with my diamond.
never needed it with my touch
but this screen scratches soooo fasstt..
it looks better without,
but this is better then with scratches
The factory shipped screen protector for the Diamond is EXCELLENT. I hated these before and on all my other models I have not used them or removed them after a day. The diamond on is different - you just do not notice it is there. Therefore, my advice - use it!
Anyone fine the supplied HTC protector scratches the screen real easily?
Ive had my diamond for no more than 2 weeks and I have 3 fine scratches already. At £9.99 a pair for thes protectors, it isnt cheap.
the oem diamond screen protector does scratch easily...(the actual protector not the phone) once ive had my use out of the oem protector im going to use a martin fields protector as i hear they are the best.
Just stuck the screen protector on and I have the say it is really good. I managed to get it on perfect no bubbles at all. A few of my friends didn't even notice the screen protector was on. so far so good no scratches yet only had it on for 1 day.
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Just stuck the screen protector on and I have the say it is really good. I managed to get it on perfect no bubbles at all. A few of my friends didn't even notice the screen protector was on. so far so good no scratches yet only had it on for 1 day.
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I dispositioned a corner by 1mm on side, that resulted in a nasty unglued stripe there about 2-3 mm wide ... now looking for something really sharp to cut that mm off
It seems that many people believe that the diamond screen is more immune toward scratches, because it is protected by tempered glass.
The truth is that on top of the tempered glass, there is the touch surface, which is much less resistant to scratches than tempered glass (so it's touch surface => tempered glass = > lcd screen).
actually, the touch surface is below the plexiglas. that's why you have to press so hard. it's a resisitve touch surface, so you can see that it only interacts if you actually press the plexiglas so hard that it bends.
plexiglas can be very hard, but because the touch surface is resistive, they had to use soft plexiglas which is not scratch resistant at all.
anyway, I had a screen protector on my diamond and yesterday it somehow fell off the table. And a SCRATCH aaargghh! wait! it's only on the screen protector!
So I'd say you definitely need one.
I have now bought eight of the things from two sources (the HTC brand and the five for £2 ones from Amazon) and not one of them fit properly. All were too big, by which I mean that there was not enough margin either side to ensure that they didn't overlap and bubble. And cutting a tiny strip off doesn't work either - the pressure of the stanley knife seems to put the plastic under tension, so that it doesn't bed down.
Thoroughly fed up with it.
My HTC branded screen protector fits perfectly on my Desire though.
Only had bubble around the round hole on the upper right.
Here here, used the same ones as you, the touch after is perfect, but there just crap everything else.
Also used invisable shield on the screen, and just horrible to use.
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My HTC branded screen protector fits perfectly on my Desire though.
Only had bubble around the round hole on the upper right.
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But that's the point -I don't want sodding bubbles on it
Don't bother with a screen protector?
In a year I haven't used screen protectors on any of my capacitive screened phones (i8910, HD2, Desire), not a scratch on any of them. Just be sensible and don't keep the phone in the same pocket as keys and you should be fine...
Don't bother with a screen protector?
In a year I haven't used screen protectors on any of my capacitive screened phones (i8910, HD2, Desire), not a scratch on any of them. Just be sensible and don't keep the phone in the same pocket as keys and you should be fine...
I've got the 2 dollar ones of amazon too and they fit great. Just perfect if u can get it lined up propper it will fit exactly. It took me 5 tries but evantualy i got 1 lined up properly.
just getting my desire today! but a word from the wise, a few weeks ago I was scrabbling under desks patching phone cables with my touch hd in my pocket, when I finally surfaced noticed a great big, deep scratch on my screen, probably from a desk leg or something. You could run your fingernail down it and it really felt like the glass had scratched. With big panic I gently lifted off the screen protector only to find that the deep scratch had not gone through to the glass. A fresh protector and it was as good as new.
I have already ordered protectors for my desire... well worth the money.
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just getting my desire today! but a word from the wise, a few weeks ago I was scrabbling under desks patching phone cables with my touch hd in my pocket, when I finally surfaced noticed a great big, deep scratch on my screen, probably from a desk leg or something. You could run your fingernail down it and it really felt like the glass had scratched. With big panic I gently lifted off the screen protector only to find that the deep scratch had not gone through to the glass. A fresh protector and it was as good as new.
I have already ordered protectors for my desire... well worth the money.
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When in pocket, screen faces leg to avoid this problem
But I sympathize with the OP. I've tried a Martin Fields one, and a Brando anti glare one and I wasn't happy with either. Got some of those cheap amazon ones en route, but I think I'm going naked this time around. I was quite happy with the HTC ones on my Hero though.
Not had any issues with my Martin Fields one, gets a bit grubby but a quick wipe and its fine - also have it in it's case and screen facing inwards in my pocket so shouldn't have any issues...never had any issues before with screen issues in the past, though
FWIW, I'm exactly the same.
I bought the invisible shield protector, and tbh, so far I'm quite dissappointed in it.
Firstly, it's very tough to install, without getting dust particles underneath - I didn't get opportunity to do the "steamy room" trick as had been suggested before on here.
That aside, the protector seems really quite thick - I'm sure it will offer decent protection, but the touchscreen effect is really poor by comparison to an unprotected screen.
The question I have is this - are there no "hard" screen protectors?
A "Gorilla Glass" sliver would be excellent to place on top of your screen.
Anyone heard of something like this?
The screen protectors they sell in verizon and best buy for the Droid Incredible are a joke. After some quick diggin around I finally found a good company to go with. I got the Boxwave Crystal Clearview Screen Protectors for my Incredible two days ago and cant tell i even have it on my phone. Fits great, covers entire front of phone minus the earpiece and optical trackpad on phone. Went on first try, absolutely no air bubbles! Comes with a lint free cloth, should you encounter any air bubbles...The cloth prevents you from scratching the screen protector when removing any air bubbles. Also cleans the screen protector to perfection. I recommend Boxwave to anyone who is fed up of orange peel, misfitting, or screen protectors with clarity/quality issues. Boxwave also has has an antiglare/anti-fingerprint screen protector. Check and see what they have for the Desire. Good Luck.
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I got a generic screen protector free with a gel case on eBay and I have to say, I think it's the first one I've put on WITHOUT any bubbles on it (and hence the first screen protector that's actually likely to stay on a device I own for more than 10 minutes ) Only think I don't like is that it makes the screen a bit less 'slippy' - it's still not bad, and to be honest I don't think I'll ever like the screen finish on the Desire when compared to the unscratchable, always smooth glass on my old iPhone...
I had inivisiable shield on, took me 3 times to install it and finally got it pretty much perfect,
then as you do, i got a key and scratched along it to show it off to some mates, so then one of my mates decided hey lets get a key and dig it right into it to make a big scratch down the middle!
Looked at ordering a replacement , but still had to pay $4 postage, ontop of the £1.50 my bank would charge for it being from the US. so i thought not worth it.
Though when i took it off it did protect the screen! not a scratch on it.
Here mate. Try these: 140397585852 on ebay.
I initially got a generic one from the three shop and it was rubbish. Very plastic and scratched very easily.
I got these off ebay and I am very impressed with it! It has a very good finish to the surface. Very similar to the bare screen. Also they are actually slightly smaller than the glass screen area so very easy to fit. Also they are very easy to fit and got no dust or bubbles!
Pack of 6. Bargain!
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When in pocket, screen faces leg to avoid this problem
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This is the first screen I've scratched, after years and years of big screens in my pocket - I always abide by the rule of screen inwards - but just that one time......... still stick by the moral of my story
I agree...
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I have now bought eight of the things from two sources (the HTC brand and the five for £2 ones from Amazon) and not one of them fit properly. All were too big, by which I mean that there was not enough margin either side to ensure that they didn't overlap and bubble. And cutting a tiny strip off doesn't work either - the pressure of the stanley knife seems to put the plastic under tension, so that it doesn't bed down.
Thoroughly fed up with it.
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I agree. I have come to peace with using my phones without because I think there is a bigger risk of me getting angry and busting my phone when i try to apply the protector than there is scrathing the screen without
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The screen protectors they sell in verizon and best buy for the Droid Incredible are a joke.
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So does the Incredible have the same size screen as the Desire? Could someone buy screen protectors for the Incredible and cut them to fit the Desire
defraguk said:
just getting my desire today! but a word from the wise, a few weeks ago I was scrabbling under desks patching phone cables with my touch hd in my pocket, when I finally surfaced noticed a great big, deep scratch on my screen, probably from a desk leg or something. You could run your fingernail down it and it really felt like the glass had scratched. With big panic I gently lifted off the screen protector only to find that the deep scratch had not gone through to the glass. A fresh protector and it was as good as new.
I have already ordered protectors for my desire... well worth the money.
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Well that's the trick. The protectors are easy to damage so that you buy new ones and each time think 'phew that saved me' when in fact almost all the time there would have been no damage to the screen anyway.
defraguk said:
just getting my desire today! but a word from the wise, a few weeks ago I was scrabbling under desks patching phone cables with my touch hd in my pocket, when I finally surfaced noticed a great big, deep scratch on my screen, probably from a desk leg or something. You could run your fingernail down it and it really felt like the glass had scratched. With big panic I gently lifted off the screen protector only to find that the deep scratch had not gone through to the glass. A fresh protector and it was as good as new.
I have already ordered protectors for my desire... well worth the money.
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I don't think the scratch would be visible even without the protector. The protector is some soft material which can get a deep cut like scratch just because its soft. I bet it wouldn't be visible on the screen if you had none either as long as the phone is in your pocket covered by jeans or whatever you have on your ass and the desk inst really made out from pure metal with sharp edges. You would sooner break it then scratch in normal case scenario.
Hey all,
Today i removed my InvisibleShield after i got a replacment of it in mail.
When i removed it and touched the screen, it was amazing !
No finger prints with crazy smooth feeling !!!
What do you think about the gorila screen? someone here is working the the phone without a screen protector?
Thanks
Hard to say. In theory is should be fine but here are some links that may help you decide;
http://www.talkandroid.com/12256-galaxy-s-screen-test-shows-off-gorilla-glass-durability-video/
http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s/118888-galaxy-s-has-built-gorilla-screen-protector.html
http://androidcommunity.com/samsungs-galaxy-s-gorilla-glass-getting-abused-20100828/
Get a screen protector.
As soon as I got my i9000 I bought a soft case for it. The case had a small ceramic ball as a fastening, and after 1 week of use this ball created a nice big scratch down the middle of the screen.
I've got a Martin Fields screen protector now, it doesn't feel as good on your fingers but at least it's protected, and it's covered up the scratch.
I do not use a protector. The surface is hard glass, and I'm careful to put it in a pocket that contains no other items.
Protectors make more sense for plastic screens.
It is a personal preference; I suppose the chrome plastic edge will be worn before the glass gets scratched.
When I got my iphone I put a screen protector on it right away. After a while it needed to be replaced so I took it off, only to never get around to putting it back on. Needless to say it went without for months and not s single scratch.
I have had my Galaxy for four months now without a screen protector and so far so good. It still looks perfect. I am however vigilant at keeping it away from change or keys while in my pocket.
I have used two different Galaxy S's with protectors (don't know which brand though) and both really took away from the quality of the screen.
Bought a screen protector the other day and it felt sticky i should say prefer without but if you have a 4" super amoled screen you might wanna protect it
I prefer using protector. It's no harm for me and gives extra protection.
At first it was sticky, but not so sticky anymore, or I just got used to it.
I'm using InvisibleShield.
Tried both cause a couple of my first screen protectors were getting air pockets. Ordered a new one, but during the mean time I used it without a protector.
I personally find either works. As long as you have a decent case to prevent the screen from cracking if it falls on the side it should definitely be fine.
If you handle your SGS carefully there`s no need for a protector. But try to seperate it from scratchy things... in your pocket...
I would get one !
I learned the hard way and now have a good scratch on my screen.
Definitely should put one
it helps protect the screen, even though the screen was supposed to be indestructible as they advertise, it is not
many people have used it normally, although it might not break, you can still get annoying scratches if you keep them in the same pocket where you stick your house/car keys in
Have been using it without a protector for about six months now it has no scratches. Some times I forget and put it in the same pocket as my keys but even then I have had no scratches on it.
Im getting one.
Its scratch proof, not scratch resistant.
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Im getting one.
Its scratch proof, not scratch resistant.
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Correction, it's scratch resistant.
After a while you will see micro scratches on the screen when held up to the light. Use a screen protector.
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Hey all,
Today i removed my InvisibleShield after i got a replacment of it in mail.
When i removed it and touched the screen, it was amazing !
No finger prints with crazy smooth feeling !!!
What do you think about the gorila screen? someone here is working the the phone without a screen protector?
Thanks
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Same here after I removed it no more fingerprints.
I'm very happy without screen portector.
I would preffer a little scratch instead of dirty fingers all the time an due to that bad vision.
My Brando ultraclear was scratched within one week and I asked for replacement.
The replacement is still waiting, it think I never wil use it.
i used screenprotectors years ago when I got the freshly released OmniaHD GT-i8910. I removed it later and didn't miss it until today I have never got any scratches in my smartphones.
I have had a screen protector on my Galaxy since day 1 and would recommend them to anyone. I doubt very much that they are actually scratch resistant and if left unprotected then I'm sure they will eventually scratch. The Titanic was unsinkable and look what happened to that!
im in charge of about 70 mobile phones. at first I suggested people get them, but after a while in became very clear that they are more of a fad of sorts. sure the reduce wear and tear, but not enough to be worth the cost or hassel. Only twice now have saved a phone... both palm pres... go fig
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I have a gadgetshieldz protector on front and back. Not as sticky as the invisible shield and very clear. I used a glare reducing one on my O2 - waste of a pretty screen
I put one on but after awhile dust and stuff just built up where the screen protector wasn't covering (sensors and camera usually) and it just got annoying, I've dropped this thing flat on it's screen and it's not scratched so I figured I didn't need one.
http://www.spigen.com/new-product/spigen-sgp-htc-one-x-screen-protector-steinheil-ultra-series.html
Two choice,
1.Ultra Fine
2.Ultra oleophobic
which one is batter?
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I don't use them ...
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http://www.spigen.com/new-product/spigen-sgp-htc-one-x-screen-protector-steinheil-ultra-series.html
Two choice,
1.Ultra Fine
2.Ultra oleophobic
which one is batter?
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I don't use screen protectors on any phone with gorilla glass. It's basically unnecessary. It's virtually impossible to scratch the screen unless you really make the effort.
Remember, it's glass. Why not take a fork and try your best to scratch a window made of glass. It can't be done.
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I get where you're coming from Peter but just because you don't want screen protectors doesn't mean you shouldn't try and contribute to someone who does. My Captivate had gorilla glass and it has plenty of scratches just because of grit. It happens, no matter what.
However, Ultra Fine is just going to be super clear, and Ultra Oleophobic will do it's best to keep finger prints from showing/building up.
PeterHTC said:
I don't use screen protectors on any phone with gorilla glass. It's basically unnecessary. It's virtually impossible to scratch the screen unless you really make the effort.
Remember, it's glass. Why not take a fork and try your best to scratch a window made of glass. It can't be done.
Peter
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I used to use screen protectors all the time until my nexus one, had that phone for 2 years with plenty of abuse, including at least 4 good drops, one in a cement underground parking floor with a small kick and slide for good measure, my hart stooped on that one! still not a scratch on that phone.
so i did not get one for my galaxy nexus, dropped it once while kneeling on the flatbed of a tow truck, not a very far drop at all, and got 1 nasty looking scratch and 3 minor ones! ruined my day, week even i still look at it and get sad.
i have no idea what glass is in the galaxy nexus, but to me it was very easy to scratch, if i can find a screen protector for the xl that is not annoying to look at i will probable start using one.
just sayin
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I used to use screen protectors all the time until my nexus one, had that phone for 2 years with plenty of abuse, including at least 4 good drops, one in a cement underground parking floor with a small kick and slide for good measure, my hart stooped on that one! still not a scratch on that phone.
so i did not get one for my galaxy nexus, dropped it once while kneeling on the flatbed of a tow truck, not a very far drop at all, and got 1 nasty looking scratch and 3 minor ones! ruined my day, week even i still look at it and get sad.
i have no idea what glass is in the galaxy nexus, but to me it was very easy to scratch, if i can find a screen protector for the xl that is not annoying to look at i will probable start using one.
just sayin
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ditto here. i noticed the other day i had a tiny scratch up near the ear piece of my GNex. mine has never been dropped so not sure where i got it from but it was the first phone i went completely naked with. won't make that mistake again. def getting a screen protector and most likely the SGP Oleo.
PeterHTC said:
I don't use screen protectors on any phone with gorilla glass. It's basically unnecessary. It's virtually impossible to scratch the screen unless you really make the effort.
Remember, it's glass. Why not take a fork and try your best to scratch a window made of glass. It can't be done.
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Any minute particle of sand will scratch gorilla glass without exception.
You are 1) being irresponsible, 2) promoting those irresponsible ideas to others.
Gorilla glass is not scratch proof by any means. It has barely higher hardness compared to normal borosilicate glass, and it's far softer than sand.
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Any minute particle of sand will scratch gorilla glass without exception.
You are 1) being irresponsible, 2) promoting those irresponsible ideas to others.
Gorilla glass is not scratch proof by any means. It has barely higher hardness compared to normal borosilicate glass, and it's far softer than sand.
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Calling someone irresponsible is a bit harsh, no? It's a difference in philosophy. Many people don't believe in screen protectors. I live in sandy Florida and I've been just fine. My friend on the other hand scars his screens.
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Calling someone irresponsible is a bit harsh, no? It's a difference in philosophy.
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True, its all a matter of personal choice. There is a tiny change in the feel when you use a screen protector, and some don't like it. If a person chooses not to use a screen protector, and willing to live with scratches (if they do occur) then that's totally up to them. If someone scratches the screen, and claims the GG as "defective", then I suppose that is irresponsible (as there is not advertised guarantee against scratches).
That said, GG is far from impossible to scratch. Its intended to be scratch resistant, but can still be scratched (and even cracked). Coming from another device with GG, I can tell you that I have seen many cases of people that got scratches after normal use, and no obvious instances of abuse, drops, etc. And if you remember when the iPhone first came out with GG, there were also plenty of instances of people getting scratches almost immediately after release. On the other hand, plenty of people have had good luck with no scratches on GG, even after serious drops, etc. A bit of luck is certainly at play. But if you don't use a screen protector, and end up with a scratch, you can't easily undo it. IMO, its better to use a protector, and not have to worry about such regret.
A good quality screen protector has very minimal change in feel (although there is a very slight difference) no change in look, and will also attract fingerprints and smudges a bit less than the "naked" screen. Cheap ones are not worthwhile, and often look and feel much worse, and can start peeling off easily. Some people that are against protectors, may be due to experience with a cheap one. Bodguardz and Skinomi are quality ones that I have used, and there are plenty of other good ones.
Hey guys, this topic was started to answer a mans question about the difference between two types of screen protectors not borosilicate and gorilla glass. I feel that this topic should be A. closed if nothing good is to be added, or B. put back on topic for the benefit of OP.
okay, i'll knock his question out really quick...
the Ultra Fine (Anti-fingerprint) is a matte type of screen protector. because it is matte, it's going to degrade the colors a little bit. they won't be as vibrant as without this particular protector.
the Ultra Oleo is a clear screen protector. approx 100% of the colors will still come through as if you didn't have this one on. it's made to be resistant to fingerprints, though the Ultra Fine is going to do a far better job of keeping fingerprints off.
so, you have to ask yourself this...
do you mind losing some of the pop from the colors to keep fingerprints off of your screen, or would you rather see your display like there was nothing on it but have more visible fingerprints?
i always go with the clear ones. i had a matte protector on an old iPhone (3G?) and didn't like it. haven't had a matte one since.
Its a bit hidden, but it says on the product webpage FAQs:
What are the differences between the Steinheil Ultra Fine and Ultra Oleophobic Screen Protectors?
All of our screen protectors are Japanese made, enhanced optical hard films. The Ultra Oleophobic screen protectors is a clear type where it absolutely doesn't affect the screen image quality. Ultra Oleophobic has an oil resistant coating to resist oil and other contaminants. Ultra Fine screen protector is matte type hard film which resists against fingerprints and smudges, but it is less clear compared to other Steinheil screen protectors.
So it seems the main difference is that the Oleophobic seems to be the "regular flavor", while Ultra Fine has a matte finish (and $2 more). What is "best" for matte versus regular finish is typically a matter of preference. Matte tends to give less glare (and might be helpful outdoors in sunlight) but tend to be less clear, and may have a tackier feel or even textured feel (not sure if the different feel is true for this particular brand). Hopefully somebody with specific experience with this brand can give an opinion.
Some people (like the previous reply) don't like matte; while I've seen others that seek it out.
Question about these screen protectors, if anybody has used them, can you post a picture? All the protectors I've seen for the One X so far look bad because of the way the screen is shaped, they curl up on the edges.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25084817&postcount=69
there ya go vioalas, that's the skinomi protector, and it's a wet app so it's just like, the best fit possible. Hope that helped!
vioalas said:
Question about these screen protectors, if anybody has used them, can you post a picture? All the protectors I've seen for the One X so far look bad because of the way the screen is shaped, they curl up on the edges.
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I can't do a pic (at work) but I have only used the Ultra Oleophobic on my past two devices, and it is the closest thing to the feeling of the glass out there. There is still a tiny bit of drag that isn't present on the screen, but really is barely noticeable.
Because these are dry application protectors, they can't go all the way to the lateral edges of the One X's screen, apparently it has a slight taper/roll and the SP would lift. My Galaxy Nexus (with the contoured screen) leaves about 2mm all the way around, and that was very clear in SGP's pics on their website. Their pics for the one X show less of a gap and the gap is mostly on the sides, so I think it will look better than it does on the Galaxy Nexus...
s.m.knipe said:
I can't do a pic (at work) but I have only used the Ultra Oleophobic on my past two devices, and it is the closest thing to the feeling of the glass out there. There is still a tiny bit of drag that isn't present on the screen, but really is barely noticeable.
Because these are dry application protectors, they can't go all the way to the lateral edges of the One X's screen, apparently it has a slight taper/roll and the SP would lift. My Galaxy Nexus (with the contoured screen) leaves about 2mm all the way around, and that was very clear in SGP's pics on their website. Their pics for the one X show less of a gap and the gap is mostly on the sides, so I think it will look better than it does on the Galaxy Nexus...
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thanks for input on the actual fit with dry protectors. i thought the glass was flat on the One X if true, the only way to get a complete fit would be wet applications. guess i'll finally have to use a wet application.
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thanks for input on the actual fit with dry protectors. i thought the glass was flat on the One X if true, the only way to get a complete fit would be wet applications. guess i'll finally have to use a wet application.
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No, I think it is just the gradual roll the edges of the screen do to meet the plastic. the screen itself is flat, and the roll appears to only be on the left and right sides. I think even wet application ones would have trouble with it... look at some of the pics that depict the phone in profile; the part of the screen glass that protrudes above the plastic (best noticed in the white model) seems to have a radius (or "roll") to it.
Any other places to get these now that fit.. Dry and not $16
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No, I think it is just the gradual roll the edges of the screen do to meet the plastic. the screen itself is flat, and the roll appears to only be on the left and right sides. I think even wet application ones would have trouble with it... look at some of the pics that depict the phone in profile; the part of the screen glass that protrudes above the plastic (best noticed in the white model) seems to have a radius (or "roll") to it.
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ahh gotcha. well so far it sounds like the skinomi is the way to go. i was never a fan of that orange peel effect but if that's the best then that's what i'll have to go with.
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guess i'll finally have to use a wet application.
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The wet apply protectors are not as scary as they would seem. Your lightly spray the application fluid onto the protector, and its really not enough to penetrate into any cracks. And even if it does, its not enough to short circuit anything. Have the device powered off, and let it dry for the recommended time, and you will be fine.
I used dry apply protectors for my first couple smartphone, as I was also a bit wary of the wet apply method. But when I finally went the wet apply method, I found it easier to install. The wet method give you some time to get the protector perfectly in place before the protector adheres.
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ahh gotcha. well so far it sounds like the skinomi is the way to go. i was never a fan of that orange peel effect but if that's the best then that's what i'll have to go with.
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I have a Skinomi installed on my Flyer tablet, and am quite pleased with it. its very smooth with no noticeable orange peel effect.
I guess I'll do the wet application. Would you guys trust the radioshacks/bestbuys that offer to apply it for you?
Hi Guys,
Do you have scratches on your butterfly screen?
I can't find a decent protector that cover the screen fully in Singapore and now there is quite a few scatches on my screen. They are not visible when the screen is on but quite visible when they are off.
Quite disappointed with the quality of the gorilla screen.
The gorrila glass of Butterfly is very good (for me). My daughter use ball pen to draw on the monitor, no problem, her hand very dirty with alot of dust and play game (ninja fruit) on my phone, no problem... No scratch on my Butterfly upto now after 2 months.
Suggest for you:
If you want a screen protector, you could find the Nilkin or Rock protector for x920d, fit perfectly (except curved part at border of the screen). I just have free protector included in box when I bought the Nilkin backcover and just install for some days, quite good, fit, nice, clean and clear,
I have several nasty scratches on my glass. My S3 did a much better job than my butterfly in resisting scratches.
I am using the nillkin screen protector for x920d but still doesn't fit nicely.... it can't even cover the entire screen that is the display part....so i understand what deweylim is experiencing. I"m so tempted to tear it off..but then again.....scratches....:S scary...
any remedies we can use on the scatches? sigh..
It is just a 2 month old phone..
Well I must admit, Gorilla Glass sucks pretty much. Despite all fancy videos posted on Youtube.
My old Desire S once was near to me when I peeled tangerine. Sprays from the peel fallen on the screen and i didn't notice that. Of course I cleaned it later and glass looked like new... but since then it catches grease very fast and in nasty stains. Looks awful.
Butterfly first impressed me very much with its grease-repelling surface. But hell, one time I put my phone in same pocket with car keys and boom! here's scratch. Damned keys made of soft metal, that unable to scratch even regular glass, suddenly was hard enough to scratch Gorilla Glass2?? Couldn't believe that, but it's the fact.
Anyway, it looks like guys from Corning Glass have lost something very important in their researches.
I think I won't buy next phone unless it has new sapphire glass. Hope it won't be same joke as Gorilla Glass
deweylim said:
any remedies we can use on the scatches? sigh..
It is just a 2 month old phone..
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I tried today using a strop loaded with some high grit compound from a bar that i use to strop my single bladed razor and knives seem to remove the scratches from my screen. high grit as in ~6-12k i actually don't know. But somewhere there because it gives my razor blades a polished mirror finish. Not a perfect mirror but enough for you to realise that you have a pimple on your forehead.
I got my screen looking like I just got it.
Remember to try on some corner of the screen first to make sure it doesn't scratch it then move on to your actual screen!!! I don't want to be blamed for screens that look like the surface of a chopping board! :cyclops:
I'm dissapointed like the rest of you with the resistance of this screen.
Hope your screen stropping works out fine! I'm happy with mine
The black borders surrounding the screen on my Butterfly is already faded less than a month after I got it. It was really disheartening the first time I saw it.
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The black borders surrounding the screen on my Butterfly is already faded less than a month after I got it. It was really disheartening the first time I saw it.
Sent from my HTC Butterfly using xda premium
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how does it fade? I don't think its meant to fade. I'm pretty sure that you can get your phone replaced by whoever sold it to you. that's a defect with the craftsmanship of the phone.
Gorilla glass is not so good. And it has nothing to do with butterfly. Gorilla glass on my previous sgs3 was bad I wore the phone only in my pocket and cared of it very good, but on the glass were scratches.
The one place I like Gorilla Glass better than others out there is the feel and texture ... what I mean is like keep rubbing your finger on an iPhone/Asus/etc and same thing on a Gorilla Glass, the others will get high friction very quickly whereas Gorilla one stays smoother longer ...
Its because of the glass texture that you can see if you see at the phone at a horizontal angle in light
phone's almost 6 months here and screen's fine. except for a dent on the side when it fell once.
There're actually a few things that gorilla glass can't handle, like most common is Quartz aka 'sand'
Sent from my HTC Butterfly using xda app-developers app
Gorilla Screen .... Hmmm.....
What do you think????