I'm having a tough time deciding whether or not to get the 32gig model or the regular 16. I don't plan on really storing any video or mp3s on the tablet, if anything I'll just use it to store games/apps and GPS maps. Do you think a 32gig is overkill for just that?
Yes since you have a microSD slot and unlimited web storage.
Isn't the web storage only for a year?
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I'm having a tough time deciding whether or not to get the 32gig model or the regular 16. I don't plan on really storing any video or mp3s on the tablet, if anything I'll just use it to store games/apps and GPS maps. Do you think a 32gig is overkill for just that?
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It's not really overkill, I was in the same boat as you, since the built-in memory is much faster than any microSDHC you can put there.
However, after thinking a lot, I decided to buy the 16gig version.
1. For $100 I can buy a good speedy 32gig microSDHC for a total of 48gig, IMO, this is better value.
2. I currently have the iPad 2 for testing, near 70 installed apps, 1gig of HD videos, 2+gig of music, near 1GB of pictures, apps + browser + email cache, etc... for a total of 8gig used. This means that the built-in 16gig should more than good for a lot of apps, cache and other main stuff, while the local media goes to the SD card.
I'll be the voice of dissension.
I see SD expansion as a means of accessing temporary, view once/not often type files. If you're augmenting your main system memory with SD the minute you buy something, I feel you've already admitted you should have bought more onboard storage.
The minute you start loading apps or data for apps onto SD is the minute you remove any capability to start swapping your SD cards.
Of course, if you really do only plan on doing what you stated 16gb might be enough for quite a while. For me, I'm always a, "what if", sort of hardware buyer.
If you want to pay $100 more for "what if" then go ahead. By the time you use up 16GB + 16GB OR 32GB microSD card, there will be tablets coming out with 64GB and 128GB internal storage which will render yours useless.
Spend the $100 on accessories or the dock.
If you have money to burn then I guess 32GB wouldn't hurt with 32GB microSD card and 64GB SD card for the dock.
For games/apps/gps maps... definitely go 16GB.
My SGS only has 2 gigs of internal storage, and atm I have ~ 110 apps installed on it. Of those 2 gigs, I have 1.16GB of free space left. I've not set any of my apps to be run from the microSD card, either.
I'm not sure how much data the maps will take up (when I updated my stand-alone GPS, the DB was less than a gig in size...), but worst case that's something you could easily put on a microSD card for MUCH less than $100 (a 32Gig one won't cost you 100!).
The tablet itself has a MicroSD slot. The dock has a standard SD slot, and the USB ports can be used for mass storage devices... 32Gig is way overkill for how you describe your needs.
Plan on getting the 16g one, and thats the one I have on order. But if the 32g shows its face before my 16g one ships. I'll be all over that.
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If you want to pay $100 more for "what if" then go ahead.
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I'm paying a $70 premium to not lock down my SD card. I don't like painting myself into a corner. 16gb of course might be plenty for the OP, I just don't agree with people implying SD expansion comes with zero negative penalties.
Well i went for the 16gb version and popped a 16gb class 10 card in (£16.99) and have bought a 500gb portable HD (£35). That should give me plenty
Admittedly though accessing the SD card isnt as easy as internal memory from many of the apps but things like music and photos and ebooks were found automatically
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This is a great forum, and I learnd a lot of stuff on this site. Thanks for all your hard work.
I'm a new user of windows mobile and I'm currently with an o2 orbit 2. I have 3 1G cards separately stored applications & co-pilot, music and movies. The question is how i can switch between different storage cards without harming my device. Do i have to switch the device off to change the card, are there any implications for doing that? Cheers.
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The question is how i can switch between different storage cards without harming my device.
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The Cruise/Polaris's storage card is supposed to be hot-swappable, per HTC the manufacturer. With the price of storage cards going down every day, have you considered buying an 8gb card? I bought one for about $70 with my new Cruise, and now I see them on ebay for $55-60. Good luck...
You can "hot-swap" the µSD card of the o2 Orbit2 (I do ), and, of course, also of the TC.
I bought a 8GB Class 4(!) µSDHC card on ebay.de for 39,95€ (+postal charges)
EDIT: Here: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130194411701
thank you for your reply.
I'll use hot-swap for now. And buy a 8G card in a few days.
anything I should be aware of when buying the 8G card?
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thank you for your reply.
I'll use hot-swap for now. And buy a 8G card in a few days.
anything I should be aware of when buying the 8G card?
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Personally, I prefer SanDISK brand...
If anyone's interested, I saw an online article somewhere, that stated that sandisk and toshiba both had 16gb microsd cards starting up production, and toshiba actually had found a way to cram 32gb on a card, but sandisk was still working on it. bet we'll all have 32gb cards by next Christmas... Man, back in the early 80's when I had my Atari 800XL, if you'd have told me I'd have 32gb on a portable phone, I'd have laughed at you... heheheee
Seriously. I remember I had a 20 MB hard drive on a 8088/86 computer. That thing was huge and weighed a ton. Now we can have 32 GB on something smaller than my fingernail.
Yeah I have an 8 GB card from amazon for about $60 if i recall correctly. They're definitely worth it.
if you want to use your sd card as some kind of "ram-extender" you may try to get a fast one.
I eg install all programs on my card to have as much ram free as possible, there for I bought the fastest I found.
aleph305, do you notice any difference in speed - can the Polaris take advantage of a faster card? (Perhaps there is a maxspeed)
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I guess so.
on a magician I installed pocketplus on the card (noname 2gb @ approx. 12r/5-9w mb/s) and the today screen becomes unusable.
then bought a panasonic 2gb 150X (approx 20-22r/14-18w mb/s) and pocket plus runs like it where at the ram.
Therefore I can confirm that the magician will and Im pretty sure every device will when you use the card as "ram".
ps
- you have never enough ram
- your ram is never fast enough
Wondering if anyone can give their opinions on the conveniences of owning either a single 16gb card or two 8gb cards.
I definitely need more than 4gb especially because of the music I want on the card. I'm thinking maybe an 8 will be good enough for the music/pictures/data...and I'll have another 8 for movies that my kids can watch while waiting at a restaurant or where ever.
I guess I'm thinking this way because if one of the 8gb cards gets corrupt then I'll have a spare...plus buying two 8gb cards is cheaper than getting one 16gb.
On the other hand...I want a 16gb because of the convenience factor. But then...if that card goes bad...I'm back to my 4gb until I can get a replacement.
Can someone make this decision easier for me! LoL! Pro/Cons please. Thanks!
My vote would be for the 1 16Gb card just for the simple fact that its a PITA to swap the cards on the N1. If they made a side loading slot, then I would vote for the 2, but since you gotta shut it off and take the battery out, I would just get the 1. Instead of waiting until it dies, you could always get a 2nd 16Gb card, or get an 8Gb as a backup when you can afford it.
I've been using these cards in many different devices over the past few years and I haven't had one go bad on me yet, so I'm not sure what the typical lifespan is.
Thanks for your insight on this matter...
I would suggest the 16gb card. Stick it in there and forget about it!
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My vote would be for the 1 16Gb card just for the simple fact that its a PITA to swap the cards on the N1. If they made a side loading slot, then I would vote for the 2, but since you gotta shut it off and take the battery out, I would just get the 1.
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You're right - that does suck, and that's why I went with a 16.
Class 4 or 6? Unless I'm benchmarking...I shouldn't be able to notice a difference, right?
Go with just 1x 16gb
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Class 4 or 6? Unless I'm benchmarking...I shouldn't be able to notice a difference, right?
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I doubt you'll notice that much of a difference. I thought I'd also throw in my two cents and recommend getting a single 16gb card, because if you have other data that your phone has saved to it... pictures, ebooks, etc. Swapping out the cards means you wont have access to all that data. Me personally, I'm waiting for the 32gb to drop in price a bit
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Class 4 or 6? Unless I'm benchmarking...I shouldn't be able to notice a difference, right?
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Even a class 2 should be fine. The read speeds will still be good. Just slower write speeds I believe.
So it might take longer to put your music,videos on the card but playback will be the same.
Unless you plan on using App2SD then maybe a higher class might be needed?
I'm waiting for the 32gb to drop in price!
dont expect those 32gb cards to drop in price anytime soon,....i ordered my 16gb as soon as i saw the price on a 32gb card...twice to storage at more than 3 times the cost of a 16gb card...not worth it unless you really have a "need" for that much storage on your phone....imho
Awesome....thanks for your feedback guys...I've definitely decided on a single 16GB card. Now...I doubt that i'll do any app2sd. I only have a handful of apps on my phone...and really don't need much more. I think the internal memory is plenty for me.
So, (holding my breath)...do I go for the class 2 card or the class 6? - Damn...wish I was rich enough to not even care how much I'll be saving! LoL!
Bit the bullet...and got a 16GB class 6 - A-Data brand.
Hello , i will buy 16 or 32 gig card for dhd,
Is phone capable of using class 10 or i should get class 6?
16 or 32Gb. The answer to this is what you want to store on the card. Unlike windows, android stores nearly all apps in the phones memory, so the SD card is really only for photos, documents, music, ebooks and a few files that are needed for some apps. So ask yourself how much data you want to store.
In my opinion, Class 10 will be a waste, as you are limited to how fast the phone can read write to SD card. A Class 4 should be all that is needed, as you will not notice much difference between a Class 4, 6 , 10 as you are talking about read/write speeds in nano seconds.
The other thing to remember is a 32Gb Class 10 card will cost GB£150
A 16Gb Class 4 card will cost around GB£15, 10 times less.
thanks for good answer,
i want to hold quality movies on my sd card and alot of music. hd video recording will be also needed
Does anyone know what is htc desire hd write speed?
is class 6 optimal write speed sd card for it?
32gb is too expensive , i get 16 gb class6.
A class 6 16GB should be fine
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Unlike windows, android stores nearly all apps in the phones memory, so the SD card is really only for photos, documents, music, ebooks and a few files that are needed for some apps.
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Very interesting. So, is that space enough to store your applications (at least a decent amount of applications that a heavy user will require - and I assume that most people here are heavy users) or will it be like my old TyTN that I needed to remove applications in order to install another one that might be more important?
malex1 said:
16 or 32Gb. The answer to this is what you want to store on the card. Unlike windows, android stores nearly all apps in the phones memory, so the SD card is really only for photos, documents, music, ebooks and a few files that are needed for some apps. So ask yourself how much data you want to store.
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sorry to say this, but you are wrong, apps can be stored in the SD
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sorry to say this, but you are wrong, apps can be stored in the SD
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No he is right. There are many apps that can only be stored on the phone itself. It's to the developer of the phone to decide. Until now, there are way more apps that run from then phone memory. He wasn't saying apps can't be stored.
MyMemory.co.uk have a good price on their own class 4 32GB card, have one on the way for my DHD will see how it goes, the postage seems to take a while from Jersey to here.
I've just bought a Kingston Class 4 32Gb micro SDHC - £80, and tested it with h2testw (or whatever it's called!) and got a very respectable 4.72Mb/sec write speed, and 15.7Mb/sec read speed - more than enough for Android. And loads of space for everything!
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I've just bought a Kingston Class 4 32Gb micro SDHC - £80, and tested it with h2testw (or whatever it's called!) and got a very respectable 4.72Mb/sec write speed, and 15.7Mb/sec read speed - more than enough for Android. And loads of space for everything!
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I have a Kingston 8GB Class 4 Card which is about a year old. I get regular write speeds of 8.26 MB/S and reads of 18.1 MB/S.
Not sure if this is an anomaly or what but I would say that class 4 is just fine. Now just need more capacity!
I just bought this kingston 32gb class 4 micro sd card
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180591007001&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:GB:1123
I don't understand why the price difference is so huge between what you guys brought, is it possible that this card is a fake? if it is what do you think i should do next?
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MyMemory.co.uk have a good price on their own class 4 32GB card, have one on the way for my DHD will see how it goes, the postage seems to take a while from Jersey to here.
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It would be great if you could post your opinion of the card once you've used it.
What is your opinion in this?
Is 16GB enough? Or is it wiser to get the 32GB model?
I got a 16GB and am happy with it. I won't keep that much media on it anyway, and if I want more space, I have the microSD card slot. The difference between 16 and 32GB is $100, but you could get the 16GB and a 32GB MicroSD card for less than $500.
Oh, and with the keyboard dock, I can get SDHC cards for even cheaper. I already have a 16GB MicroSD in it... If I should want more space, I'll just get a 16 or 32GB SDHC card.
FYI, you cannot install or move apps to the microsd/SD without rooting (yet). Even then, you'd be hard pressed to fill up the 16GB with apps. Let's say an app avgs 10MB, that means you can have 1600 apps. You've got other issues if you have 1600+ apps installed.
For larger apps, the data portion can be installed on the external media. I have World Series of Poker which installs about 10MB to the internal memory and 380MB to the external when launched.
In short, I think 16GB is fine. Just make sure the music/videos/pics stay on the external media.
16gb is more than enough with the microsd slot on the tablet...if you need extra storage, the two usb ports on the docking station can help...you can even use external hard drives like western digital passport..
by no mean I'm saying the 32gb is bad..I just think it's hard to justify the $100 premium
Ah, ok - thanks guys.
Personally, I'm going for the 32GB model. I plan to have a lot of movies/TV on my TF, and though I can fit a fair bit with a 32GB microSD and a 64GB SD card, I'd still like to have as much storage from the get-go as I can.
Kilmar said:
For larger apps, the data portion can be installed on the external media. I have World Series of Poker which installs about 10MB to the internal memory and 380MB to the external when launched.
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How do you do this? My data folder for Spectral Souls alone is 1GB...
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I am about to order the ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity TF700T. I have been debating as to which capacity of storage to get - 32GB or 64GB. This may be a no brainer for most but money is sort of an issue with me. I wondering what benefits beyond the obvious I would get for getting the 64GB version over the 32GB and adding a micro 32GB SD card. Is it really worth spending $100 more to get the 64GB version? Or should I just buy the 32GB SD card for about $35 buck and save $65. Either way, most likely I will buy an SD sooner or later.
What are your thoughts?
Thanks,
gabato
i got the 32gb version. just by a 32gb or 64gb memory card. thats just my opinion though.
Get 32gb and then a 32gb sd card. Much more cheap or a 64gb sd card will still be cheaper
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I got the 64gb and bought a 64gb uSDXC. That's how I roll.
I'd say go 32gb and add a 32gb card. At least, that's what I'm doing. $100 just to double the space is a bit ridiculous.
Buy the 32 gig version and the dock, then connect that to a 2+ terabyte external hard drive through USB. All the storage you could ever need.
I had the 64 GB Prime Ans never really utilized the space. Also ran a 32 GB microsd card that would hold movies and TV shows. Will just buy a 32 infinity. You forget how much of my stuff I stream nowadays. My entire music collection is in the cloud and the video that is not on Hulu plus, Netflix, Time Warner or HBO Go apps expandable memory makes a huge difference. And there are only certain formats it will read from an external hard drive so do some research. I forget off the top of my head what formats work.
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The sane answer would be 32 GB and a 32 GB memory card. That would mean I'm insane -- I bought the 64 GB edition (a few weeks before retail release though, so I jumped on the opportunity of having it before 99.99% of other owners and took the budgetary hit ) and I stuck a 32 GB SDHC and a 32 GB microSD in it (if it had been reported that 64 GB would work, I'd put in even more memory, as you can never have enough of that).
Buy the 32 gig and a 64 gig microsd card, you have 64 gig and you save your money
If you need more storage, buy an USB kit, then buy a 2 TB external hard drive and use the USB kit to connect that hard drive to your tablet, buy something call "USB hub" that let you connect a full size sd card to the USB kit, if i'm correct maximum storage of sd card is 512 gig, so now you have
32 (internal storage) + 64 (microsd) + 2048 gig (external hard drive) + 512 gig (sd card) = 2656 gig
Get the 32gb card for sure, the TF700 has issues reading 64gb cards. Check out this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1761861
If you plan on getting the dock it reads 128/64gb cards no problem (its a full size SD port on the dock).
Hope this helps!
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nooktablet said:
Buy the 32 gig and a 64 gig microsd card, you have 64 gig and you save your money
If you need more storage, buy an USB kit, then buy a 2 TB external hard drive and use the USB kit to connect that hard drive to your tablet, buy something call "USB hub" that let you connect a full size sd card to the USB kit, if i'm correct maximum storage of sd card is 512 gig, so now you have
32 (internal storage) + 64 (microsd) + 2048 gig (external hard drive) + 512 gig (sd card) = 2656 gig
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128gb is the largest SD card currently available. Anything advertised as bigger is fake...
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With the thoughts and insights in the replies, I ordered the tablet. Unfortunately, I will have to wait a while to get it. Amazon has it back ordered.
Thanks for your replies.
The rational behind getting the 64GB version would be if you need more of the FASTEST storage. While there are plenty of ways to increase storage capacity, none matches the transfer speed of the local storage.
But this PC Mag review says something interesting about the 64GB version of the device.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2406244,00.asp
We tested the 64GB model and found that it only accepted microSD cards up to 16GB.
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Darnell_Chat_TN said:
The rational behind getting the 64GB version would be if you need more of the FASTEST storage. While there are plenty of ways to increase storage capacity, none matches the transfer speed of the local storage.
But this PC Mag review says something interesting about the 64GB version of the device.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2406244,00.asp
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You forgot lol io problems.
C10 SD cards are faster as of current.
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@darnell_chat_tn Thanks, I will keep that in mind. I ordered the champagne one which is still on back order. I am still waiting on it to ship. BTW, I used to live in Chattanooga a long while ago.
@keion Do you know if recent updates fixed that?
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You forgot lol io problems.
C10 SD cards are faster as of current.
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At the moment, many people can't use class 10 64GB cards in the TF700, they work in the dock though. And class 6 64GB cards work in the device.
So there's lots of issues when it comes to storage. "If" they resolve all issues with the JB update, the built in storage would be fastest.
Of course everyone has to make their own call. But given the varied issues, I'm planning to get the 32GB version. Just because so many people are getting the 32GB version and there is usually more strenght in numbers. So the 32GB version might have class 10 64GB cards working, before the 64GB device works with anything higher than 16GB cards and local storage issues resolved. Also, with so many people getting the 32GB version, most Dev work will likely be performed with that device. Which would mean if there are issues with a Developer's work on the 64GB version it may be harder to get a fix.
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At the moment, many people can't use class 10 64GB cards in the TF700, they work in the dock though. And class 6 64GB cards work in the device.
So there's lots of issues when it comes to storage. "If" they resolve all issues with the JB update, the built in storage would be fastest.
Of course everyone has to make their own call. But given the varied issues, I'm planning to get the 32GB version. Just because so many people are getting the 32GB version and there is usually more strenght in numbers. So the 32GB version might have class 10 64GB cards working, before the 64GB device works with anything higher than 16GB cards and local storage issues resolved. Also, with so many people getting the 32GB version, most Dev work will likely be performed with that device. Which would mean if there are issues with a Developer's work on the 64GB version it may be harder to get a fix.
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There are only two plausible choices for SD cards. Samsung and samsung ultra, both of which only go up to 32 gb. All the other ones aren't shiny.
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Keion said:
There are only two plausible choices for SD cards. Samsung and samsung ultra, both of which only go up to 32 gb. All the other ones aren't shiny.
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To each their own. As detailed throughout the linked tread, people have had positive results with various cards of their choice. But most encounter issues with 64GB class 10. It remains to be seen if the JB update will especially address that.
gabato said:
I am about to order the ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity TF700T. I have been debating as to which capacity of storage to get - 32GB or 64GB. This may be a no brainer for most but money is sort of an issue with me. I wondering what benefits beyond the obvious I would get for getting the 64GB version over the 32GB and adding a micro 32GB SD card. Is it really worth spending $100 more to get the 64GB version? Or should I just buy the 32GB SD card for about $35 buck and save $65. Either way, most likely I will buy an SD sooner or later.
What are your thoughts?
Thanks,
gabato
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I didn't read through all the responses. I saw a lot of discussing this issues regarding what cards work and don't.
I think someone posted the article on PCmag about buying tablets with more storage. Really, what is said, the extra money is just a lot more profit for the manufactures since it costs less than $10 to add the extra memory.
In my opinion, there is the hard fact about the cost. I think you have to look at how you use your device and what you plan to store. Personally, I went with the 32GB version since the tablet has the SDHC slot. Most likely, this is more than enough storage for ninety percent of users. That's a lot of apps to fill up. The storage suck is if you keep a lot of video, or 1080p DD5.1 and high bit rate. You could do it if you keep your whole music collection on it as well. Maybe in the future some games will need more space with they're more a full fledge games like you find on PCs or consoles. I think it's more an issue with tablets like Nexus 7 that come in significantly smaller configurations--8GB or 16GB.
Heck, I just spent $50, from Amazon's deal of the day, and got Scandisk SDXH 64GB card. It appears to be working, but I haven't fully tested everything out. I've read Titanium Backup can have issues with it. I've barely touched the memory on the tablet.
I don't know you know for nothing. I would suggest getting the 32GB version and use the $100 on something else, such as a keyboard, case/cover, extenral battery, apps, and so forth.
I bought the 64gb version for one reason. On my phone I would install a couple of games from gameloft and it would install in the phone and not on the sd card. The game wouldnt work if I moved it to the sd card, so at the rate the games are going now they are going to require more space. I just didnt want to be stuck like I was with my G2x. Music, Pics, Movies all are on SD cards and games will be left in the internal storage.
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