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Hi, guys
This is a great forum, and I learnd a lot of stuff on this site. Thanks for all your hard work.
I'm a new user of windows mobile and I'm currently with an o2 orbit 2. I have 3 1G cards separately stored applications & co-pilot, music and movies. The question is how i can switch between different storage cards without harming my device. Do i have to switch the device off to change the card, are there any implications for doing that? Cheers.
fantasist said:
The question is how i can switch between different storage cards without harming my device.
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The Cruise/Polaris's storage card is supposed to be hot-swappable, per HTC the manufacturer. With the price of storage cards going down every day, have you considered buying an 8gb card? I bought one for about $70 with my new Cruise, and now I see them on ebay for $55-60. Good luck...
You can "hot-swap" the µSD card of the o2 Orbit2 (I do ), and, of course, also of the TC.
I bought a 8GB Class 4(!) µSDHC card on ebay.de for 39,95€ (+postal charges)
EDIT: Here: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130194411701
thank you for your reply.
I'll use hot-swap for now. And buy a 8G card in a few days.
anything I should be aware of when buying the 8G card?
fantasist said:
thank you for your reply.
I'll use hot-swap for now. And buy a 8G card in a few days.
anything I should be aware of when buying the 8G card?
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Personally, I prefer SanDISK brand...
If anyone's interested, I saw an online article somewhere, that stated that sandisk and toshiba both had 16gb microsd cards starting up production, and toshiba actually had found a way to cram 32gb on a card, but sandisk was still working on it. bet we'll all have 32gb cards by next Christmas... Man, back in the early 80's when I had my Atari 800XL, if you'd have told me I'd have 32gb on a portable phone, I'd have laughed at you... heheheee
Seriously. I remember I had a 20 MB hard drive on a 8088/86 computer. That thing was huge and weighed a ton. Now we can have 32 GB on something smaller than my fingernail.
Yeah I have an 8 GB card from amazon for about $60 if i recall correctly. They're definitely worth it.
if you want to use your sd card as some kind of "ram-extender" you may try to get a fast one.
I eg install all programs on my card to have as much ram free as possible, there for I bought the fastest I found.
aleph305, do you notice any difference in speed - can the Polaris take advantage of a faster card? (Perhaps there is a maxspeed)
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I guess so.
on a magician I installed pocketplus on the card (noname 2gb @ approx. 12r/5-9w mb/s) and the today screen becomes unusable.
then bought a panasonic 2gb 150X (approx 20-22r/14-18w mb/s) and pocket plus runs like it where at the ram.
Therefore I can confirm that the magician will and Im pretty sure every device will when you use the card as "ram".
ps
- you have never enough ram
- your ram is never fast enough
I'm having a tough time deciding whether or not to get the 32gig model or the regular 16. I don't plan on really storing any video or mp3s on the tablet, if anything I'll just use it to store games/apps and GPS maps. Do you think a 32gig is overkill for just that?
Yes since you have a microSD slot and unlimited web storage.
Isn't the web storage only for a year?
stcardinal said:
I'm having a tough time deciding whether or not to get the 32gig model or the regular 16. I don't plan on really storing any video or mp3s on the tablet, if anything I'll just use it to store games/apps and GPS maps. Do you think a 32gig is overkill for just that?
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It's not really overkill, I was in the same boat as you, since the built-in memory is much faster than any microSDHC you can put there.
However, after thinking a lot, I decided to buy the 16gig version.
1. For $100 I can buy a good speedy 32gig microSDHC for a total of 48gig, IMO, this is better value.
2. I currently have the iPad 2 for testing, near 70 installed apps, 1gig of HD videos, 2+gig of music, near 1GB of pictures, apps + browser + email cache, etc... for a total of 8gig used. This means that the built-in 16gig should more than good for a lot of apps, cache and other main stuff, while the local media goes to the SD card.
I'll be the voice of dissension.
I see SD expansion as a means of accessing temporary, view once/not often type files. If you're augmenting your main system memory with SD the minute you buy something, I feel you've already admitted you should have bought more onboard storage.
The minute you start loading apps or data for apps onto SD is the minute you remove any capability to start swapping your SD cards.
Of course, if you really do only plan on doing what you stated 16gb might be enough for quite a while. For me, I'm always a, "what if", sort of hardware buyer.
If you want to pay $100 more for "what if" then go ahead. By the time you use up 16GB + 16GB OR 32GB microSD card, there will be tablets coming out with 64GB and 128GB internal storage which will render yours useless.
Spend the $100 on accessories or the dock.
If you have money to burn then I guess 32GB wouldn't hurt with 32GB microSD card and 64GB SD card for the dock.
For games/apps/gps maps... definitely go 16GB.
My SGS only has 2 gigs of internal storage, and atm I have ~ 110 apps installed on it. Of those 2 gigs, I have 1.16GB of free space left. I've not set any of my apps to be run from the microSD card, either.
I'm not sure how much data the maps will take up (when I updated my stand-alone GPS, the DB was less than a gig in size...), but worst case that's something you could easily put on a microSD card for MUCH less than $100 (a 32Gig one won't cost you 100!).
The tablet itself has a MicroSD slot. The dock has a standard SD slot, and the USB ports can be used for mass storage devices... 32Gig is way overkill for how you describe your needs.
Plan on getting the 16g one, and thats the one I have on order. But if the 32g shows its face before my 16g one ships. I'll be all over that.
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If you want to pay $100 more for "what if" then go ahead.
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I'm paying a $70 premium to not lock down my SD card. I don't like painting myself into a corner. 16gb of course might be plenty for the OP, I just don't agree with people implying SD expansion comes with zero negative penalties.
Well i went for the 16gb version and popped a 16gb class 10 card in (£16.99) and have bought a 500gb portable HD (£35). That should give me plenty
Admittedly though accessing the SD card isnt as easy as internal memory from many of the apps but things like music and photos and ebooks were found automatically
I am about to order the ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity TF700T. I have been debating as to which capacity of storage to get - 32GB or 64GB. This may be a no brainer for most but money is sort of an issue with me. I wondering what benefits beyond the obvious I would get for getting the 64GB version over the 32GB and adding a micro 32GB SD card. Is it really worth spending $100 more to get the 64GB version? Or should I just buy the 32GB SD card for about $35 buck and save $65. Either way, most likely I will buy an SD sooner or later.
What are your thoughts?
Thanks,
gabato
i got the 32gb version. just by a 32gb or 64gb memory card. thats just my opinion though.
Get 32gb and then a 32gb sd card. Much more cheap or a 64gb sd card will still be cheaper
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I got the 64gb and bought a 64gb uSDXC. That's how I roll.
I'd say go 32gb and add a 32gb card. At least, that's what I'm doing. $100 just to double the space is a bit ridiculous.
Buy the 32 gig version and the dock, then connect that to a 2+ terabyte external hard drive through USB. All the storage you could ever need.
I had the 64 GB Prime Ans never really utilized the space. Also ran a 32 GB microsd card that would hold movies and TV shows. Will just buy a 32 infinity. You forget how much of my stuff I stream nowadays. My entire music collection is in the cloud and the video that is not on Hulu plus, Netflix, Time Warner or HBO Go apps expandable memory makes a huge difference. And there are only certain formats it will read from an external hard drive so do some research. I forget off the top of my head what formats work.
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The sane answer would be 32 GB and a 32 GB memory card. That would mean I'm insane -- I bought the 64 GB edition (a few weeks before retail release though, so I jumped on the opportunity of having it before 99.99% of other owners and took the budgetary hit ) and I stuck a 32 GB SDHC and a 32 GB microSD in it (if it had been reported that 64 GB would work, I'd put in even more memory, as you can never have enough of that).
Buy the 32 gig and a 64 gig microsd card, you have 64 gig and you save your money
If you need more storage, buy an USB kit, then buy a 2 TB external hard drive and use the USB kit to connect that hard drive to your tablet, buy something call "USB hub" that let you connect a full size sd card to the USB kit, if i'm correct maximum storage of sd card is 512 gig, so now you have
32 (internal storage) + 64 (microsd) + 2048 gig (external hard drive) + 512 gig (sd card) = 2656 gig
Get the 32gb card for sure, the TF700 has issues reading 64gb cards. Check out this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1761861
If you plan on getting the dock it reads 128/64gb cards no problem (its a full size SD port on the dock).
Hope this helps!
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nooktablet said:
Buy the 32 gig and a 64 gig microsd card, you have 64 gig and you save your money
If you need more storage, buy an USB kit, then buy a 2 TB external hard drive and use the USB kit to connect that hard drive to your tablet, buy something call "USB hub" that let you connect a full size sd card to the USB kit, if i'm correct maximum storage of sd card is 512 gig, so now you have
32 (internal storage) + 64 (microsd) + 2048 gig (external hard drive) + 512 gig (sd card) = 2656 gig
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128gb is the largest SD card currently available. Anything advertised as bigger is fake...
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With the thoughts and insights in the replies, I ordered the tablet. Unfortunately, I will have to wait a while to get it. Amazon has it back ordered.
Thanks for your replies.
The rational behind getting the 64GB version would be if you need more of the FASTEST storage. While there are plenty of ways to increase storage capacity, none matches the transfer speed of the local storage.
But this PC Mag review says something interesting about the 64GB version of the device.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2406244,00.asp
We tested the 64GB model and found that it only accepted microSD cards up to 16GB.
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Darnell_Chat_TN said:
The rational behind getting the 64GB version would be if you need more of the FASTEST storage. While there are plenty of ways to increase storage capacity, none matches the transfer speed of the local storage.
But this PC Mag review says something interesting about the 64GB version of the device.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2406244,00.asp
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You forgot lol io problems.
C10 SD cards are faster as of current.
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@darnell_chat_tn Thanks, I will keep that in mind. I ordered the champagne one which is still on back order. I am still waiting on it to ship. BTW, I used to live in Chattanooga a long while ago.
@keion Do you know if recent updates fixed that?
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Keion said:
You forgot lol io problems.
C10 SD cards are faster as of current.
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At the moment, many people can't use class 10 64GB cards in the TF700, they work in the dock though. And class 6 64GB cards work in the device.
So there's lots of issues when it comes to storage. "If" they resolve all issues with the JB update, the built in storage would be fastest.
Of course everyone has to make their own call. But given the varied issues, I'm planning to get the 32GB version. Just because so many people are getting the 32GB version and there is usually more strenght in numbers. So the 32GB version might have class 10 64GB cards working, before the 64GB device works with anything higher than 16GB cards and local storage issues resolved. Also, with so many people getting the 32GB version, most Dev work will likely be performed with that device. Which would mean if there are issues with a Developer's work on the 64GB version it may be harder to get a fix.
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At the moment, many people can't use class 10 64GB cards in the TF700, they work in the dock though. And class 6 64GB cards work in the device.
So there's lots of issues when it comes to storage. "If" they resolve all issues with the JB update, the built in storage would be fastest.
Of course everyone has to make their own call. But given the varied issues, I'm planning to get the 32GB version. Just because so many people are getting the 32GB version and there is usually more strenght in numbers. So the 32GB version might have class 10 64GB cards working, before the 64GB device works with anything higher than 16GB cards and local storage issues resolved. Also, with so many people getting the 32GB version, most Dev work will likely be performed with that device. Which would mean if there are issues with a Developer's work on the 64GB version it may be harder to get a fix.
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There are only two plausible choices for SD cards. Samsung and samsung ultra, both of which only go up to 32 gb. All the other ones aren't shiny.
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Keion said:
There are only two plausible choices for SD cards. Samsung and samsung ultra, both of which only go up to 32 gb. All the other ones aren't shiny.
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To each their own. As detailed throughout the linked tread, people have had positive results with various cards of their choice. But most encounter issues with 64GB class 10. It remains to be seen if the JB update will especially address that.
gabato said:
I am about to order the ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity TF700T. I have been debating as to which capacity of storage to get - 32GB or 64GB. This may be a no brainer for most but money is sort of an issue with me. I wondering what benefits beyond the obvious I would get for getting the 64GB version over the 32GB and adding a micro 32GB SD card. Is it really worth spending $100 more to get the 64GB version? Or should I just buy the 32GB SD card for about $35 buck and save $65. Either way, most likely I will buy an SD sooner or later.
What are your thoughts?
Thanks,
gabato
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I didn't read through all the responses. I saw a lot of discussing this issues regarding what cards work and don't.
I think someone posted the article on PCmag about buying tablets with more storage. Really, what is said, the extra money is just a lot more profit for the manufactures since it costs less than $10 to add the extra memory.
In my opinion, there is the hard fact about the cost. I think you have to look at how you use your device and what you plan to store. Personally, I went with the 32GB version since the tablet has the SDHC slot. Most likely, this is more than enough storage for ninety percent of users. That's a lot of apps to fill up. The storage suck is if you keep a lot of video, or 1080p DD5.1 and high bit rate. You could do it if you keep your whole music collection on it as well. Maybe in the future some games will need more space with they're more a full fledge games like you find on PCs or consoles. I think it's more an issue with tablets like Nexus 7 that come in significantly smaller configurations--8GB or 16GB.
Heck, I just spent $50, from Amazon's deal of the day, and got Scandisk SDXH 64GB card. It appears to be working, but I haven't fully tested everything out. I've read Titanium Backup can have issues with it. I've barely touched the memory on the tablet.
I don't know you know for nothing. I would suggest getting the 32GB version and use the $100 on something else, such as a keyboard, case/cover, extenral battery, apps, and so forth.
I bought the 64gb version for one reason. On my phone I would install a couple of games from gameloft and it would install in the phone and not on the sd card. The game wouldnt work if I moved it to the sd card, so at the rate the games are going now they are going to require more space. I just didnt want to be stuck like I was with my G2x. Music, Pics, Movies all are on SD cards and games will be left in the internal storage.
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Could you help me decide?
I want to browse internet, read ebooks, have 100 apps/games installed and have it running smooth.
I have a speady 64GB external SD card.
Do I really need the 64GB model?
You may think that you provided enough info to get help but you missed the fact that what matters is the size of the applications not the quantity of them alone. If you're using games that have huge storage requirements then only you can account for that, not the community.
There is already a thread about how much free space to expect from a 32gb model (about 25gb) so do your own estimating.
No need for 64 GB. 32 GB should do just fine, especially with a 64GB external SD card.
Edit: I've been asking myself the same question. I just can't justify paying $100 for 32 GB extra.
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I think is a question many of us ask. Some Apps, specially some of the HQ racing games and FPS take up a fair amount of space. You can offload much of the content to the external drive. I personally always opt for the highest storage.
I don't play much games usually, so I can live without heavy gaming
I also generally thing that 64gb is the way to go but 64gb mean that the tablet is not yet released for sale and it will be much more pricey...
So I try to convince myself that 32gb + 64gb SD is OK
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I don't play much games usually, so I can live without heavy gaming
I also generally thing that 64gb is the way to go but 64gb mean that the tablet is not yet released for sale and it will be much more pricey...
So I try to convince myself that 32gb + 64gb SD is OK
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Another vote for 32GB+64GB.
Although, I can't seem to write to the external SD card, apparently this is an issue with 4.4.2
I also vote for 32 + 64.
Of course it depends on how you use the device. I'm not a "cloud" lover and prefer to have stuff on it rather than dropboxed, etc.
In my use cases, I only really need lots of space when I take it for a vacation and want to take movies/tv shows along. If we're talking 720p or 1080p, then the files can be pretty big. Another use is music, I use lossless (.flac) a lot and they're also bigger.
Still, you can always buy a 128 GB card later (I'm sure they'll be compatible and cheaper in some time) and you can also connect an external portable hard drive via USB3, if ocasionally you really need to take lots of data along. The only catch is that I think NTFS is not supported.
Unless you have a ton of very large apps/games that can't use external storage, 32gb with sd should work for most folks. I just re encode my videos without HD audio and they fit fine on my 64gb sd. If I need anymore, I'll use my ext 1tb hd with the otg adapter. In either case, an extra 32gb wouldn't make a huge difference for me, and certainly not worth $100.
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Agree with the 32gb recommendation. Just be aware of the issues with writing to external SD cards on Kitkat. If you use AirDroid for transfer of files to your tablet over WiFi it could be an issue.
This is something I had an issue with, which one to get. Best Buy solved that for me by only having the 32gb version. While I'm the store, I thought about this, get an external hard drive and have even more memory. So, I bought a 1tb hard drive for 65 (on sale) and hooked it up using a USB otg cable. For less than the price of the 64gb model, I have more memory now
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This will be my first tablet, I think I want a 64GB LTE but could I use a Flash usb drive instead of a complete external HD?
davidson27 said:
This will be my first tablet, I think I want a 64GB LTE but could I use a Flash usb drive instead of a complete external HD?
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Yes uoy could with otg USB cable
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OTG solves it all I guess thanks.
I see in the specs that the SD is limited to 200GB. I have a 256gb - wll that be recognized but limited to 200gb, or will it not be recognized at all?
If so, could it be partitioned to 200gb to get around this limitation?
From what I've heard they said 200 because that's where the technology is. Why say 1tb when there is no 1tb. So in theory it should work.
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I see in the specs that the SD is limited to 200GB. I have a 256gb - wll that be recognized but limited to 200gb, or will it not be recognized at all?
If so, could it be partitioned to 200gb to get around this limitation?
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You have a 256GB micro SD card?
se1000 said:
You have a 256GB micro SD card?
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Saw someone on here in another thread (might have been the Int. S7 forum) that said they had a "200GB" SD. Didn't seem right. It should be 256GB but what do I know. Turns out SanDisk makes a 200GB card... weird, right? Anyway, they do exist.
Edit: from what I'm reading around the web, 200GB is the current cap on microSD cards? A 256GB card is most likely fake and will read at 200 or lower capacity. Is this right?
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KCRic said:
Saw someone on here in another thread (might have been the Int. S7 forum) that said they had a "200GB" SD. Didn't seem right. It should be 256GB but what do I know. Turns out SanDisk makes a 200GB card... weird, right? Anyway, they do exist.
Edit: from what I'm reading around the web, 200GB is the current cap on microSD cards? A 256GB card is most likely fake and will read at 200 or lower capacity. Is this right?
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I been using sandisk 200 gp sd card with 90 mgbs transfer and it works great. I do have a 512 gb sd card i got off ebay. i used it in my note 4 and lg4. it works, but i believe it to be unreliable. i just tried it in the s7 and it reads 500gb and i can access all files and pics. so i do believe if you could find a good 512 g card it will works. this is a cheap one i got off ebay. just fyi. regards.
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I been using sandisk 200 gp sd card with 90 mgbs transfer and it works great. I do have a 512 gb sd card i got off ebay. i used it in my note 4 and lg4. it works, but i believe it to be unreliable. i just tried it in the s7 and it reads 500gb and i can access all files and pics. so i do believe if you could find a good 512 g card it will works. this is a cheap one i got off ebay. just fyi. regards.
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SD cards of that size do exist. I should have clarified that I was talking about MicroSD, no standard sized cards. 200GB is the largest MicroSD size currently available.
I take that back there is a 512GB MicroSD but at about $1,000 (US) I don't think many here have it lol. Who made your 512GB card? Have you tested it to make sure it actually hold that much? Cons are very tricky and its very easy to change the capacity a card reports to a computer.
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it is a microsd and was bought on ebay. came from china. on a pc or on the phone it clocks in at about 500 gb.
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SD cards of that size do exist. I should have clarified that I was talking about MicroSD, no standard sized cards. 200GB is the largest MicroSD size currently available.
I take that back there is a 512GB MicroSD but at about $1,000 (US) I don't think anyone here has it. Who made your 512GB card? Have you tested it to make sure it actually hold that much? Cons are very tricky and its very easy to change the capacity a card reports to a computer.
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it is a microsd and was bought on ebay. came from china. on a pc or on the phone it clocks in at about 500 gb.
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That's what you were being told. It's easy for those cons to make a 32gb card tell a pc or even a phone that it's actually 500gb. The test is to see how much you can actually put on it before you get errors. I bought a 64gb card on Ebay and it came from China. I learned very quickly that it couldn't handle that much data. I moved a few apps over no problem but as soon as I moved 20gb of music over I could no longer read the card. Get rid of the music and the card is readable. I complained to the seller and they said they'd exchange it. Well for the price and the time it took I decided not to. At the very least I got a thumb drive style microsd card reader out of that deal.
I wish 512 gb memory cards were affordablr
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That's what you were being told. It's easy for those cons to make a 32gb card tell a pc or even a phone that it's actually 500gb. The test is to see how much you can actually put on it before you get errors. I bought a 64gb card on Ebay and it came from China. I learned very quickly that it couldn't handle that much data. I moved a few apps over no problem but as soon as I moved 20gb of music over I could no longer read the card. Get rid of the music and the card is readable. I complained to the seller and they said they'd exchange it. Well for the price and the time it took I decided not to. At the very least I got a thumb drive style microsd card reader out of that deal.
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I was just keeping my mouth shut lol. I tried to hint at that to him but he seemed dead set that it was somehow the only 512GB microsd in existence or a got a $1,000 object for 1/100th the price. Oh well, some have to learn lessons the hard way.
San 200's are $79 on amazon right now.
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You have a 256GB micro SD card?
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