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I just ordered a T-mobile Desire and I wanted to get a decent sized SD card for it to take away with me. I had a couple of questions though:
I wondered if I needed any special type of SD card. I looked on Dabs and they have SD cards that have a different class such as class 2, 3, 10, 8 etc.
I wondered if the Desire had some of the same issues as the HD2 has had. That if you use larger SD cards, they might not work or somehow drain the battery. So I wondered if it's best to keep the size down?
Lastly, I wondered where is best to buy SD cards from in the UK to get the best deals?
I also wondered where is best to buy second batteries on price as I am going away and definitely want a 2nd battery to take with me.
Cases too..... are they worth getting?
Thanks
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I just ordered a T-mobile Desire and I wanted to get a decent sized SD card for it to take away with me. I had a couple of questions though:
I wondered if I needed any special type of SD card. I looked on Dabs and they have SD cards that have a different class such as class 2, 3, 10, 8 etc.
I wondered if the Desire had some of the same issues as the HD2 has had. That if you use larger SD cards, they might not work or somehow drain the battery. So I wondered if it's best to keep the size down?
Lastly, I wondered where is best to buy SD cards from in the UK to get the best deals?
I also wondered where is best to buy second batteries on price as I am going away and definitely want a 2nd battery to take with me.
Cases too..... are they worth getting?
Thanks
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Regarding the SD Cards, "Class" is attributed to the speed of the SD Card eg. Class 8 has a higher data transfer rate than Class 2. So when you can, always go for the highest class memory card as this will improve transfer speeds and also if you use Apps2sd on Android (install apps on sd card) it will result in better performance. I have no idea about the issue regarding battery drain, however, I have never noticed any visible changes in battery life using large (16/32gb) cards in my Nexus One over smaller ones.
As for batteries, cases etc. Ebay is always my first stop for accessories. I have bought numerous items from reputable sellers at prices far lower than specific online retailers. Don't be sucked in by gimmicky branding such as "invishield" or "raptor skin" etc, you'll find they all come from the same Hong Kong factories. That said, you tend to get better finishes on the more expensive products but I am using a silicone skin that cost £2.85 and bought 5x screen protectors for 99p and everything is sweet!!
Enjoy the Desire.
Regards.
thanks for the help on the class thing. I didn't know! I'll have to find where in the UK is best to buy the cheapest 16 gig SD card
dunno about apps2sd but when playing music I only have a class 2 SD which set me back about £22 for a 16gb one from ebay UK seller and it all works fine. Though as far as I am aware the better the class the faster the SD card I think ill only use mine for music atm and happy with what its doing
If you can afford it though go for the best class you can!
I'll have to have a look on ebay. I think I'll look for a silicon case for it if I can.
I'll also look on ebay for a 16 gig card too..... thanks.
ebay or ebuyer are probably the cheapest for that sort of stuff unfortunately dabs is quite expensive
I want to go for a 16GB card but I'm also wanting a fast one but struggling with finding anything above a Class 2. Can anyone point me at any 16GB Class 4, 6 or 8's they come across.
Many thanks!
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I also wondered where is best to buy second batteries on price as I am going away and definitely want a 2nd battery to take with me.
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The best price I found for official HTC batteries was Handtec. Even with their postage, it's still very good value (total £18.19) and they say they have them in stock.
norm2002 said:
The best price I found for official HTC batteries was Handtec. Even with their postage, it's still very good value (total £18.19) and they say they have them in stock.
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Are these exactly the same batteries or more powerful ones?
Lats said:
Are these exactly the same batteries or more powerful ones?
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According to their website, just the normal 1400mAh version.
I ordered a class 2 16GB San Disk sd card from Carphone Warehouse £29.99 Delivered
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I ordered a class 2 16GB San Disk sd card from Carphone Warehouse £29.99 Delivered
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that's a great deal. I looked at that last night. However, as I want to get two SD cards. One for music and another for stuff like video etc, i thought I'd have a really good look. Managed to find one on play.com for £17.99.
Hope you don't mind me posting that now you already got yours Mr Goose
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UPDATE: I got it wrong but after looking again on play.com I found a PNY class 4 for £27.99
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that's a great deal. I looked at that last night. However, as I want to get two SD cards. One for music and another for stuff like video etc, i thought I'd have a really good look. Managed to find one on for £17.99.
Hope you don't mind me posting that now you already got yours Mr Goose
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That isn't micro SD.
I'm too looking out for a class 8 (or so) microSD card that is 16GB. Not had much luck.
Thank goodness Mr goose added a link. I just checked again what he bought and yes, I got it wrong. Thank goodness for double checking and Mr goose adding a link!
Back to looking.
I currently have a Sandisk Class 4 8Gb Micro SDHC in my Blackberry Bold, which I will probably transfer to my Desire (when I get it).
Do you think this would be fast enough for Apps2SD (when the Desire gets rooted)?
What is the fastest class out there at the moment?
I will eventually buy a 16 or 32Gb one I think, but will stick to the 8Gb at the moment.
StuMcBill said:
I currently have a Sandisk Class 4 8Gb Micro SDHC in my Blackberry Bold, which I will probably transfer to my Desire (when I get it).
Do you think this would be fast enough for Apps2SD (when the Desire gets rooted)?
What is the fastest class out there at the moment?
I will eventually buy a 16 or 32Gb one I think, but will stick to the 8Gb at the moment.
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I saw some class 8 cards......
Just to let you guys know you don't really need class 8.
I have a class 2 16gb card. Apps2SD was fine on the G1 and ran like they were on the actual phone (even though people recommend 4 or 6).
The data transfer rate is also fine.
16GB MicroSDHC Cards on Amazon
I had a little look around last week and found the following speedy, but expensive 16GB cards on Amazon:
Transcend 16 GB Class 6 microSDHC Flash Memory Card £52.67
KINGSTON 16GB microSDHC Class 10 Flash Card £85.11
Personally, I feel that's too much money. I think it's a better idea to come down a size to 8GB, because you can find the following:
Transcend 8 GB Class 6 microSDHC Flash Memory Card £13.99
You can buy several 8GB cards for the price of those 16GB jobbies if you don't mind swapping them. Also, time will eventually bring the price of those 16GB high speed cards down to a more sensible level, if you're prepared to wait.
I haven't yet decided whether or not to replace the supplied 4GB card, but if I do, it'll be one of those <£15 8GB cards.
I would have posted the above as links, however, this board thinks I'm trying to post spam. So you'll have to paste the above descriptions into amazon.co.uk and search for these yourself.
Bandare said:
that's a great deal. I looked at that last night. However, as I want to get two SD cards. One for music and another for stuff like video etc, i thought I'd have a really good look. Managed to find one on play.com for £17.99.
Hope you don't mind me posting that now you already got yours Mr Goose
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UPDATE: I got it wrong but after looking again on play.com I found a PNY class 4 for £27.99
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I'm not saying it would be a problem for you but you've already got a Desire yes? You are aware that the memory card is not "hot swappable" as the battery has to be removed to get the card out?
What I am saying though is, personally, it would drive me nuts.
Kingston have recently released a class 10 16gb microsd, but as you can imagine, it's a bit pricey! Most retailers online have it for sale at about £85-90.
i know that there are different classes of cards: 2, 4, or 6 but what are the main idifferences and will it effect my phone in anyway if i get a 2 compaired to 6?
Heard that Class 4 is the optimum for the Nexus one...anything more than class 4 it wont make a lotta difference.
I can tell you I have an 8g Sandisk Class2 and an 8g Transcend Class6. The Sandisk blew it away in speed comparisons. Not all SDs are equal. I wouldn't have believed it but I tested it myself. Yo have to have root and adb but there is a speedtest on Cyanogen's forums. I tested each 3 times and averaged. The Sandisk was faster by a considerable amount. I also think the Class4 would be optimal and would spend a bit extra on the Sandisk.
I just got a 16gb Patriot Class 2 to replace the 4gb Class 2 stock sd card. My response the first time I opened Gallery "OMFG HOLY CRAP". Instead of the typical 3-5 second load I am at about .5-1 second. Write speed is amazing. This card is just fan-damn-tastic.
I can say I tried a Class 6 16gb off-brand prior to this (my dog ate it) and it had none of the characteristics of this current card.
So for my money, before you consider Class, consider Brand / Quality. The better quality cards will always outperform the lesser cards. If you are worried about the Class (transfer/write speed) then get a good brand and higher class...but for me, the Class 2 Patriot is amazeballs.
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I just got a 16gb Patriot Class 2 to replace the 4gb Class 2 stock sd card. My response the first time I opened Gallery "OMFG HOLY CRAP". Instead of the typical 3-5 second load I am at about .5-1 second. Write speed is amazing. This card is just fan-damn-tastic.
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hhmm, never heard of Patriot.
I've used SanDisk and Transcend before.
My current one is the stock one that came with the phone.
However, with your "OMFG HOLY CRAP" emotional outburst I'm thinking of researching that brand
I really want a 32 gb microsd card for the n1. Yeah I know its kinda overkill but it would be my card for life really. I just wish there would be a day when I could walk into a best buy and pick one up.
i used patriot ram in my computers, good brand, didnt know they made sd cards, i think ill grab one, right now i have 4gb scandisk class6 seems fast and smooth
I have this one coming...
http://www.ocworkbench.com/2010/KINGSTON/Kingston-Class10-16GB-SDHC-Review/p2.htm
I have no idea if there will be anything worth forking out over for a class 10 card but since my wife has been belly-aching for speedier storage in her video camera I figure I got nothing to lose. Doesn't wow me in the phone it can find a home in her camera. Somebodies got to take one for the team....
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I really want a 32 gb microsd card for the n1. Yeah I know its kinda overkill but it would be my card for life really. I just wish there would be a day when I could walk into a best buy and pick one up.
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http://www.sandisk.com/about-sandis...disk-first-to-ship-32-gigabyte-microsdhc-card
They will come. In fact, a webshop here home has put it up for pre-sale allready and has a unconfirmed arrival date June 1st.
price will be here $180 dollars +/-. But will be way cheaper in the states.
http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=594226
(site is in Norwegian)
The thing that bothers me about Sandisk (besides the price) is even on their own website they don't list what speed class the cards are. On Amazon I can only find class 2 cards. What's up with that? Maybe class 2 would be enough but I'd be more comfortable with class 4 or 6. Do they even make them in that speed?
ChillRays said:
I really want a 32 gb microsd card for the n1. Yeah I know its kinda overkill but it would be my card for life really. I just wish there would be a day when I could walk into a best buy and pick one up.
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I want one too, but not at their current going rate of $200.
I'll probably end up picking up a 16gb one soon since the 32gb ones aren't in any hurry to get cheaper.
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The thing that bothers me about Sandisk (besides the price) is even on their own website they don't list what speed class the cards are. On Amazon I can only find class 2 cards. What's up with that? Maybe class 2 would be enough but I'd be more comfortable with class 4 or 6. Do they even make them in that speed?
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On amazons search I typed in 16 GB class 6 micro SD and it pulled some up along with a passel of other sd cards.
The class # classification has merit behind it. But unfortunately cheap manafacturers are abusing the system.
I bought a sandisk 16gb class 2 card not too many weeks after it appeared on the market as the first 16gb card. Never have i wanted for more speed. Songs load up instantly in the music player and the gallery has no lag at all. Don't fall victim to high class # claims. Just go with a manufacturer that you know and trust. For me that's sandisk.
im already sending back my first class 10 card.bought it from newegg but had to get kingston to replace.had problem with corrupt data and making my nexus go loopy.kingston replaced it without any hassles.
krabman said:
I have this one coming...
http://www.ocworkbench.com/2010/KINGSTON/Kingston-Class10-16GB-SDHC-Review/p2.htm
I have no idea if there will be anything worth forking out over for a class 10 card but since my wife has been belly-aching for speedier storage in her video camera I figure I got nothing to lose. Doesn't wow me in the phone it can find a home in her camera. Somebodies got to take one for the team....
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hey guys i stay in dubai and i have searched the computer vendors and they only have sandisk class 2 cards and nokia's class 4 cards so if i buy nokia's class 4 mu 44 will it function properly if i want to install app2sd?
Not sure why i cant find it on the bestbuy website but i know its still there at the store bc i seen them there again just a few days ago, i bought mine a few months ago but anyways i found a PNY 4 gig class 6 HC-->high capacity i think, its in the camera section and sells in the black and red pack, not the black and gold one they also have. I bought mine regular price $22.99 which isnt too bad for not buying it on the web. It made my G1 songs and pics load blazing fast and ive since replaced my stock nexus card and have noticed a night and day difference on certain things pertaining to sd. just thought id share what i thought was a good deal. Later, veritas
also wanted to add that ive prolly reformated with parted literally between 100-175 times and really no slower rates on anything and barely a smidge shaved off the top
Hey guys,
got my new SanDisk 32GB MicroSDHC (Class 2) Card yesterday and it is performing great so far.
But before that, I'd like to warn you that there are tons of fake cards floating around.
I bought a 32GB Card one week ago and it turned out to be fake:
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I've tested to write the full capacity to the card but apparently this card only holds up to 1,9GB.
DON'T BUY FROM EBAY OR OTHER "SMALL BUSINESS SHOPS" You'll most likely get a fake card.
Really pissed after this experience I decided to buy from a reliable computer shop and spend more money and received my 32GB Card yesterday, and what can I say? It's better than I expected for a Class 2 card.
Check out the results here:
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As you can see, this card is genuine and you can write up to ~30GB to it.
The write speed with 5,21mb/s is pretty good for a Class 2 Card. Also the read speed is quite decent with 14 mb/s
This is more than sufficient for HD video recording and all the other things you'd wanna do with your Galaxy S.
I didn't expierence any lags with my phone using this card. Switching between photos, music etc.... all goes very smoothly.
Here's also a HDTune (3.50) shot for you guys interested in the read iops:
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Verdict: All things considered, I think this card performs fairly well without slowing down my Galaxy S. Watching tons videos/photos, listening to a huge music library and not having to worry about storage is really great.
The only downside of this card is the price (I've paid 108€) but considering the fact that the iPhone with 32GB is bloody expensive and with this card you would have up to 40GB of storage on your Galaxy S, this card is really a bargain and I fully recommend it.
That's great! I'm also considering to buy one the 16gb class4 version, but it seems difficult to find in Europe.
Where did you get your 32GB card?
30424 Mbye = 29.7109375 gb
What happened to the rest of the 2gb?
accinfo said:
30424 Mbye = 29.7109375 gb
What happened to the rest of the 2gb?
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some space will be taken by the file allocation table when the card is formatted as with all drives from harddrive to memory cards.
also the 32gb is somewhat less than 32gb in true storage size
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Where did you get your 32GB card?
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I've bought it in Germany (ARLT Computer).
talking about memory and disk stuff,
32GB=32.000.000.000 bytes
wich is, 30517,58 MB or 29,80 GB
this is for the simple fact
a 8GB hard disk contains 8.000.000.000 bytes
a 8GB ram stick contains 8*1024*1024*1024=8589934592 bytes
That's a lot of cash considering a non-fake Toshiba Class 2 16gb is currently selling for £17.99 delivered in the UK?
€108 equates to about £90!
32GB cards are currently considerably more expensive than 2 x 16GB cards.
Where's the deal on that 16GB in the UK btw...?
So you can use micro SD HC cards with the galaxy s? I was told that you had to use an adapter because the device only has a micro SD slot? Sorry if this is a silly question, i haven't really dealt with external flash storage that much apart from my old sony ericsson walkman phone which used stick pro duo or something like that.
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That's a lot of cash considering a non-fake Toshiba Class 2 16gb is currently selling for £17.99 delivered in the UK?
€108 equates to about £90!
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well I bought my 32GB sandisk at vodafone inkl an usb card reader for I believe 80pounds but couldnt find them anywhere else neither carphonewarehouse and other stores ... was worth the money ...
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32GB cards are currently considerably more expensive than 2 x 16GB cards.
Where's the deal on that 16GB in the UK btw...?
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Can be found here
They also have a Sandisk one for only 2 pounds more.
that is right, currently it is not worth buying the 32GB
is cheaper to have 2 x 16 GB of Class 6
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that is right, currently it is not worth buying the 32GB
is cheaper to have 2 x 16 GB of Class 6
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Er, that depends. To me having a 32GB card is well worth the extra expense, may not be to others, but its not a black and white issue as you suggest.
@GalaxyFan88 how's your Sandisk 32Gb? It doesn't lag your SGS?
I'm also considering on buying one. I'll check out the price here at Singapore's COMEX event tomorrow. Last time I checked it is still SGD168
Volcacius said:
That's great! I'm also considering to buy one the 16gb class4 version, but it seems difficult to find in Europe.
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No they're not: http://www.memoryc.com/products/des...microSDHC_Memory_Card_w_SD_adapter/index.html
Bought from them previously, reliable. This card should be good enough to use in my HD sanyo.
I don't know about class 2 cards... whats the HD bitrate on i9000?
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@GalaxyFan88 how's your Sandisk 32Gb? It doesn't lag your SGS?
I'm also considering on buying one. I'll check out the price here at Singapore's COMEX event tomorrow. Last time I checked it is still SGD168
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Yea, it doesn't lag; at least there is nothing what I would describe as "laggy".
It does take some time to load 100s of photos on the gallery app, but I think this is quite normal.
At least if I view a hires picture, it opens up near instantly. Switching between pics and focusing also happens very quickly.
I'm happy with it so far. Having used this card for more than two months I don't have any complaints at all and I fully recommend it.
How is 720p hd recording with the card? Try it and see if the recorded video is stuttering. Ty.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
it records to the internal SD
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Yea, it doesn't lag; at least there is nothing what I would describe as "laggy".
It does take some time to load 100s of photos on the gallery app, but I think this is quite normal.
At least if I view a hires picture, it opens up near instantly. Switching between pics and focusing also happens very quickly.
I'm happy with it so far. Having used this card for more than two months I don't have any complaints at all and I fully recommend it.
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Great!!! Gonna buy today! wee.. I hope my Media Scanner service won't choke up when I load all my media...!
Have you tried to play 720p MKVs from the memory card, how was it?
Not sure if this is the right forum, but looked like accessories was the best bet.
Im looking at 32G cards, but open to 16 as well. Just switched to Android, so would be good to know others experiences, and whether there is something I cannot do with a Class 4, for example or whether you see any lags with other cards you have used etc, or if a specific class is needed for using some specific feature?. I did do a search, and didnt find anything, maybe I missed it. Might be useful to have a thread regarding people's experiences..
Any suggestions/recommendations for what I should be looking at?
I have read that the Partiot/Adata/Wintec cards are not too reliable, though their prices for a class 10 are much lower..But I dont want to go through the hassle of returning/copying data, so I am thinking Class 4 is enough.
Here is one option, Sandisk 32g, doesnt say class 4, but some reviewers mention it is actually class 4. At the same time, some mention they got Class 2. Cannot post a link since I don't have 8 posts yet
Search for SDSDQ-032G-A11M, US Retail Package on Amazon, maybe someone else can add the link! Its for ~62, shipped from Amazon.
Thanks for your help!
This is what I bought.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220546
The nice 32gb ones were to expensive for me. This is a good price for it. i have been using for about a month and half. No issues at all.
Thanks cableguychad!
Anyone else have suggestions?
Thanks in advance!
I'm rocking the Patriot LX series 16gb as well. Class 10 and with transfers(usually 3-5 gigs) I'm hovering around 8-9mb/s.
EDIT: If you live by a Frys Electronics, I picked mine up there for $32.
I have the Patriot 8 GB Class 10 from FRYS. I'm getting speeds of ~11 Mbps.
I think it would be better to go with a 16 GB class 10 (~30 for Patriot class 10), than a 32 GB that's close to three times the cost of a 16 GB.
I just got this one, so far it seems to perform well enough. It's only a class 6 and it was writing at about 8-9 megs. Not too bad IMO.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...11378&cm_re=16gb_adata-_-20-211-378-_-Product
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I just got this one, so far it seems to perform well enough. It's only a class 6 and it was writing at about 8-9 megs. Not too bad IMO.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...11378&cm_re=16gb_adata-_-20-211-378-_-Product
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You can't go wrong with this one. Great deal.
Many of my buddies have had 32GB MicroSD cards and a lot have malfunctioned. Never really had issues with 2-16GB MicroSD
Dont get HP brand, I had a hell of a time making a gold card because it kept getting corrupted. Format took forever to do as well.
Thanks for all your suggestions!
I took the 16g card out of my Epic and it works great its a class 2 I formatted it 1st and no problems. So it seems Samsung cards are good.
i bought a Wintech 16GB class 10 off newegg for $28. Out of curiosity, will the format SD card function in clockwork recovery work to just format it so I can use it? Or should I do a full format on a pc, why do you need to format before use? Why cant you just pop it in and go? Does HTC format the sd card before they ship all these phones to the carriers/customers? Just curious, thanks for input.
I've recently been having a great experience using Kingston 8 gig class 4 cards to record hd video.
To check the card speeds on pc I use CrystalDiskMark 3.
There is also an android app called SDTools that will show card information.
I also use SD Formatter 3 from sdcard.org to format my cards.
Another tool to find out if your cards are what they claim to be is H2testw. It checks capacities, corruption and read/write speeds.
Just an update, got the card in the mail, so far so good, dont know any way to test the speeds but i tryed two apps, one said it maxed out at 20mbs and the other 14mbs, so i dunno how acurate thise numbers are but all seems well!
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i bought a Wintech 16GB class 10 off newegg for $28. Out of curiosity, will the format SD card function in clockwork recovery work to just format it so I can use it? Or should I do a full format on a pc, why do you need to format before use? Why cant you just pop it in and go? Does HTC format the sd card before they ship all these phones to the carriers/customers? Just curious, thanks for input.
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Just pop it into computer, and format it as FAT 32, and use it. Generally all cards are pre-formatted when manufacturer sends u out. But I reformat it before first use to make sure its in the FS as per my preferences .
I bought a cheap 16gb card on ebay
I'm sure it's a counterfeit Sandisk. I've had it at least a year. I only paid twenty bucks for it back when 16gb cards were 50 bucks. It's only class 2. I used it for a long time with my Tilt 2 without any problems, even though I store 10gb of music on it. Now I'm using it in my Inspire. I tested it using the SD tools app. The write speed is 11.6 and the read speed is 20.4. Sometimes those numbers fluctuate slightly, but that's what it tested just now. It does fine with HD video. About once a week I was getting a disk error on my phone in which the card was becoming unmounted, particularly when I would use google navigation. I used SDFormatter 3, the one mentioned in the post above, and I turned on "format size adjustment", and the error hasn't happened in a while. I appeciate the poster who mentioned the software. It seems to work better than the native Windows 7 formatter on my pc.
Here's a link to a 32gb class 4 for sell right now on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/32-GB-Micro-SD-...906?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2564d3c83a
Cards with the exact same generic blue and white packaging are abundant on ebay today from 17 to 30 bucks. Most are receiving good reviews. I may take a gamble. You never know.
Update: Ha ha. I asked the above seller if the card had been tested for capacity and speed. The reply was "Card no is fake. It real." lol
i wanna 32
hi, i looking for a 32 gb, i saw a wintec 32 class 10 but heard alot of bad reviews. i bought a trancend 32gb online for $45, turned out it was a bad card. thank god for paypal, told them my problem, got a refund. now for father's day, i wanna 32gb any suggestions? thanks. btw, does the diff class speeds make a big diff? i mainly put music in it. thanks again.
I was looking to buy a 32Gb micro sd card but I am not sure what class this phone will take. I was thinking about buying a class 10 but I wanted to know if anyone else has any experience?
homegeek said:
I was looking to buy a 32Gb micro sd card but I am not sure what class this phone will take. I was thinking about buying a class 10 but I wanted to know if anyone else has any experience?
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I'm using an adata 32gb class 10 card and it flies. Check on newegg for cards if you haven't already. The price seems to be dropping on these cards recently. What was once 120 dollars is down below the 100 mark or less!
I am running a 16 gig class 4 Sandisk card, and it runs well.
Played with the camera some, and recorded some video to test it out. Haven't had any problems there.
Also loaded some movies to the sdcard, and played them both on the device and through a video cable to a t.v., didn't see any issues so far - but I haven't had a lot of time to dig into it. Currently only tested .avi video using mobo player.
No problems transferring data back and forth through the device to the sdcard when plugging into the computer. Loads up right away as an external drive (windows machine), drag and drop, edit files on the device, etc... no problems.
I have a pny class 10 (8 gig) I could compare it to if you're interested, otherwise i'll get around to that eventually anyway.
Is there a god benchmark app to use on the device itself to compare memory cards?
(I know these card capacities are way below what you're asking, but I don't have any 32 gig cards to throw at the question yet - may be a while before I get any)
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I am running a 16 gig class 4 Sandisk card, and it runs well.
Played with the camera some, and recorded some video to test it out. Haven't had any problems there.
Also loaded some movies to the sdcard, and played them both on the device and through a video cable to a t.v., didn't see any issues so far - but I haven't had a lot of time to dig into it. Currently only tested .avi video using mobo player.
No problems transferring data back and forth through the device to the sdcard when plugging into the computer. Loads up right away as an external drive (windows machine), drag and drop, edit files on the device, etc... no problems.
I have a pny class 10 (8 gig) I could compare it to if you're interested, otherwise i'll get around to that eventually anyway.
Is there a god benchmark app to use on the device itself to compare memory cards?
(I know these card capacities are way below what you're asking, but I don't have any 32 gig cards to throw at the question yet - may be a while before I get any)
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Search "SD Tools" on the market man, very interested to see your results
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This reference might come in useful http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/sdcard_data_charts
What's the cheapest place to buy cards? Usually I've bought from Amazon. I always have thought it was cheaper than Newegg. Thoughts?
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What's the cheapest place to buy cards? Usually I've bought from Amazon. I always have thought it was cheaper than Newegg. Thoughts?
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I always trust Newegg with my SD cards. They have a good selection at good to very good prices and their customer service is Eggcellent! (sorry, I couldn't resist )
Everytime I've had an issue with any of their cards (only 2 times now), they promptly remedied the situation to my satisfaction.
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Search "SD Tools" on the market man, very interested to see your results
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I can most definitely say that the class 10 shows a significant speed difference on the phone then the class 2 and 4 cards i've been swapping in and out.
I'll be picking up some more class 10 cards from different manufacturers to do a speed comparison like I did with the Nook Color, but for the moment I feel completely safe in recommending a class 10 card over a lesser class.
On the Nook Color, we were running CM7 from the MicroSD card itself, and learned that the operating system depends on small-block read/write moreso then large-block read/write in order to run well.
It was hard, at first, to figure out what was making a difference, but after tons of people posted up test results using a specific benchmark software we narrowed it down to SanDisk brand cards, specifically the class 2/4 cards in the largest capacity you could find as the winners of quality.
All other manufacturers were focusing on large-block read/write speeds to use as their metric for quality, while SanDisk paid extra attention to small-block read/write to give a balanced card.
This made a lot of sense from a general manufacturing standpoint for the majority of businesses out there. Digital cameras/camcorders and file storage were the main usage of flash memory cards - and that kind of stuff is all large chunks of data. Streaming video, transferring large files or groups of pictures has little to nothing to do with small-block read/write.
When it became evident that SanDisk was the only manufacturer focusing on the actual specifications we needed to rely on to run an operating system from the flash memory card, the general recommendation became to say get a SanDisk over in the Nook Color forums here at XDA.
From the research i've done in that direction, carrying it forward here, i'm finding that small-block read/write has little impact on the proper running of this phone. We aren't running the operating system from the memory card, like we were there, and the information transferred back and forth is in greater chunks.
Generally speaking, and before I can conclusively state anything, PNY looks like they are going to be our recommendation here for this phone. I say this not to make that recommendation now, but to challenge people to prove that wrong.
PNY has built their business around speed based on large-block read/write capability for their flash memory. They were my general recommendation before my Nook Color experiences for that reason.
My class 10 PNY card (8 Gig) blows away everything else i've got in this phone so far. I've run a couple class 4 SanDisk (16 Gig) a class 2 SanDisk (16 Gig) and 5 different class 4 SanDisk (8 Gig) cards in this phone so far.
I don't have conclusive speed test data correlated from the phone yet, but it's coming. (There's a ton of stuff i'm testing all at once on this phone, I simply don't have time for it all even with the long days i'm putting into it)
Right now the new ROMS starting to filter out are getting put on my testing schedule, as well as constant video testing with as many televisions as I can come into contact with using several different cables. The GPS / A-GPS issue is my biggest front-and-center concern at the moment, and until that's hammered out to my satisfaction I won't be able to sit down and speed test the memory cards in the phone within a variable-controlled testing environment.
Give me a few weeks to get the rest of it worked out and i'll be able to sit down and make side-by-side speed test comparisons of all the cards I have, and that'll give me some time to get more cash together to get some decent class 10 cards to use in the testing.
Right now, my class 10 card seems to perform the best. Can anyone refute this, or substantiate it with their own results?
If you do get a 32GB, the Lexar 32GB Class 10 is an excellent choice. I've done extensive research before purchasing mine off of newegg ...
The card is solid and has impressive read/write speeds that can't be touched to date. If you google it, you should be able to find some comparisons as I did. (Note: It may not show up on the first page of results...I remember going through a lot and typing different words when researching...)
Advice: DO NOT BUY THE PIECE OF CRAP ONES OFF OF ?BAY. THOSE ARE PIECE OF JUNKS FROM CHINA AND MOST ALL FAKES. THEY ARE 2GB CARDS WITH A PROGRAM HACK TO HAVE IT READ AS 32GB. ANYTHING MADE IN CHINA, STAY AWAY. WE ALL KNOW THAT...
THE LEXAR IS REPUTABLE AND IS MADE IN KOREA, WHICH IS THE BEST OF THE BEST IN CHIP / MEMORY, PERIOD. WELL LCD'S TOO...
FYI: I'm not one to fall for second best when I could enjoy having the best of the best. Lexar 32GB Class 10 is the way to go.
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I was looking to buy a 32Gb micro sd card but I am not sure what class this phone will take. I was thinking about buying a class 10 but I wanted to know if anyone else has any experience?
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don't get a 32g class 10 patriot card unless they fixed them
the one i got in january keeps corrupting data on my phones but no other devices.
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If you do get a 32GB, the Lexar 32GB Class 10 is an excellent choice. I've done extensive research before purchasing mine off of newegg ...
The card is solid and has impressive read/write speeds that can't be touched to date. If you google it, you should be able to find some comparisons as I did. (Note: It may not show up on the first page of results...I remember going through a lot and typing different words when researching...)
Advice: DO NOT BUY THE PIECE OF CRAP ONES OFF OF ?BAY. THOSE ARE PIECE OF JUNKS FROM CHINA AND MOST ALL FAKES. THEY ARE 2GB CARDS WITH A PROGRAM HACK TO HAVE IT READ AS 32GB. ANYTHING MADE IN CHINA, STAY AWAY. WE ALL KNOW THAT...
THE LEXAR IS REPUTABLE AND IS MADE IN KOREA, WHICH IS THE BEST OF THE BEST IN CHIP / MEMORY, PERIOD. WELL LCD'S TOO...
FYI: I'm not one to fall for second best when I could enjoy having the best of the best. Lexar 32GB Class 10 is the way to go.
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Half the stuff in your home is prolly from China.
Anywayz, I know that the Class 10 cards actually do give better speeds. My question is does it matter for our phones? Is the SD card a bottleneck for the Doubleshot?
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Anywayz, I know that the Class 10 cards actually do give better speeds. My question is does it matter for our phones? Is the SD card a bottleneck for the Doubleshot?
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Yep, positively.
I had a PNY class 10 8-gig card, specifically advertised as "high speed data transfer" and it was.
I had a bunch of SanDisk class 4 - 8 gig cards, and some SanDisk class 4/2 - 16-gig cards laying around from the memory speed tests I did on the Nook Color.
Whereas the Nook Color requires manufacturing attention to small block read/write data paths, the MT4GS requires large block read/write data paths to be more robust on the physical circuitry of the card.
I restore half a dozen to a dozen CWM backups on my phone a day. There was a noticeable shortness in the time spent restoring a full backup from the class 10 PNY card.
What we learned last time, and the links are in the bottom line of my signature, is that SanDisk cards are ideal for the Nook Color, because that particular manufacturer makes a more balanced card. For the ( for now ) niche market of running an android installation from a MicroSD card, either you get a SanDisk card or you go home crying.
This phone, or any phone, is just the kind of device that the class 10 MicroSD cards are targeted at and made for. Large block read/write transfer applies to things like:
-Streaming media (movies, music)
-Playing media from the MicroSD card
-Playing most games, at least the higher-end graphics-wise ones.
-Transferring large chunks of data...like recovery images, folders of pictures, movies, etcetera and so on...
When the phone tries to grab stuff from the MicroSD card, it usually does so in large enough grabs where it falls into the category of large block file transfer.
I was trying to do memory tests on this phone with benchmarks that can be compared like the threads in my sig, but for the moment i'm too wrapped up in other stuff for this phone.
Until I can throw blocks of time at testing, and only testing in one sitting I can't control the variables I can influence enough to validate my results to myself, let alone to share here. Meanwhile, i'm keeping an eye on this thread, so keep asking questions and experimenting!
Nice, Blue! I'm going to pick up a class 10. I am specifically wondering about gallery rendering. I use my MT4GS for looooooooots of photos and videos. I open the gallery constantly and it takes a while to pull all of the content. I currently have a 32gb class 4. I'll report back my findings.
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Nice, Blue! I'm going to pick up a class 10. I am specifically wondering about gallery rendering. I use my MT4GS for looooooooots of photos and videos. I open the gallery constantly and it takes a while to pull all of the content. I currently have a 32gb class 4. I'll report back my findings.
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Yep, you'll notice a sizeable difference going from a class 4 to 10, even though you didn't mention the manufacturer.
I really, really wanted to use the stock gingerbread gallery from Google, but it's just not as good with loading pictures as the stock HTC gallery is.
I've compared them both using the same memory cards, and while the Google gallery is good using a class 10 card (PNY in my case, 8 gig) anything less and it won't load all the pictures the first, second, or even third time you kick it up.
I like the Google gallery better, because it means I can eliminate the sense frameworks altogether on the MT4GS, but it just can't compare to how well and correctly the sense gallery works.
Shame, looks like i'm stuck with sense, but i've not been loading anywhere near the number of pictures you are talking about.
I am eagerly awaiting whatever results you care to share moving up to a 32G class 10 card - let me know what manufacturer you end up going with.
I want one, but it's just so hard for me to justify the cost of it against other things I have to spend my money on, since I have about a dozen MicroSD cards here sitting in front of me.
I just broke my class 10 PNY card yesterday - pulled the cord from the pc before it said ready to eject, while it was trying to make it ready to eject. Now the card won't format in any device or compter I put it in - dammit.
Maybe I can convince myself to buy one if it seems like it made a drastic difference to you, since I don't have any class 10 cards left now.
It all depends on what card you get. I recommend both 32GB cards in my signature.
I have a pny 32gb class 10. $50 at bestbuy few weeks ago. So fare i have no lag or issue.
LEXAR 32GB class 10. My QuickPic gallery opens up instantly. Load times are negligible. The photos are just there! I moved up from a SanDisk 32gb class 4.
SD Tools measures it as writing at 10MB/sec.
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I wanted a balanced card for everyday moderate use. Based on Blue6IX's comment in post # 14, I decided to go for SanDisk. Observing that the MT4GS came with a SanDisk Class 4 card and the speed was sufficient for my moderate use, I just upgraded the size with a 32GB SanDisk Class 4 card.
Since I changed my signature, I'm running a Wintec 32GB class 10 card in my Doubleshot and an ADATA 32GB class 4 card in my Vision. Both cards run pretty well, especially since I have the real A2SD running in the Vision.
I also recommend PNY's cards. Best Buy has those on the shelves if you don't want to wait for UPS to deliver it.
I just ordered a 64GB card from Sandisk. It's supposed to come in Tuesday. If it works I'll post back here.
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